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Overunity Machines Forum



Improved Rotary Attraction Motor

Started by Neo-X, June 11, 2010, 12:23:29 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Neo-X on June 11, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
Wow your right it very similar except theirs is a coil in the static rotor.

@Neo-X

Yes, the difference is in the lack of a moving rotor and your design has a mechanical torque output and the Asaoka design has electric power output.
Unfortunately Asaoka did not mention the effect of Lenz law when a decent load is connected to his output coil. Nevertheless, he deals with the possibility of getting more output wrt the input. What he found with the 40 times less input power need for getting the same flux densitiy sounds very good indeed but in itself it does not guarantie a COP>1, does it.

In your design I think the size of the air gap between the stator and rotor is also very important just like in Lindemann's setup and he recommended less than 0.1mm gap, this calls for high precision machining and very good ball bearing for sure.  Lenz law can also manifest in your design when you load the shaft but I guess it is surely less than in a normal electric motor.

@Skywatcher123

Well if you study the permeability values of the paramagnetic materials mentioned in the patent, then you would find a value of 0.9999...  so just under the value of 1, i.e. that of the air.  This means that the air gap in itself could serve too, no need for any paramagnetic material BUT probably there is another point of view: paramagnetic metals may have a certain role in small eddy current induction hence small counter flux production in the gap, this may be beneficial if not excessive? Tests can tell the answer.

rgds, Gyula

Neo-X

@gyulasun

I think the patent is wrong, the input must a pulse not an ac to achieve overunity like in the smarkpak pod, meg, adams motor and others that use magnet in their device.. Thats why I use pulse in my concept design. The ac only applicable to a overunity device that do not use magnet like rotoverter, transverter by hector, tesla coil, don smith device..

gyulasun

Hi Neo-X,

Maybe you are right, I wish you were...

I am not fully convinced that using pulses in setups like you refer to (smartpack, pod, MEG) involves overunity. Lenz law does not differentiate between pulses and sinewaves unfortunately. Somehow the setup itself should be designed to trick Lenz law. I have not seen such setup in practice, only in paper. Have you?

rgds, Gyula

Neo-X

Im not sure but thats what I observed.. Im going to build a solidstate overunity generator similar to the patent you post but have a pulse voltage source. I will test if my theory is correct and I hope that it will work..

gyulasun

Very good you attempt testings!

You think of NE555 based pulse generator and a MOSFET switch? If you need help in such circuit, ask.

rgds, Gyula