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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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attack duck

  Hey guys, I have to spill it.  Its really too easy.  I'm sure a lot of folks have already
figured it out and have protos running.  I'm not that smart - haven't cracked a text-
book in 30 years and flunked out of college so if I can figure it out ----- ;)

(I have to call it) ta da --  The Steorn Effect for Dummies!

  By playing with a Neodymium magnet and a Ferrite magnet it can be seen that
by bringing the N poles of each together in repulsion that at a certain distance
(about 3/16" in my test) the strength of the Neo magnet completely overpowers
the repulsion of the Ferrite magnet and a line of neutrality is reached where there
is no more repulsion.  Moving the magnets closer together strong attraction takes
over and the magnets stick together N to N.  Try it!
  Now, construct a rotary motor as follows.  Build a stator with four fixed ferrite magnets at 90 degree separation around the stator.  The stator magnets need to be curved like those in any electric motor with N pole facing in towards the rotor.  Also, they should be relatively thin again like in an electric motor.  They need to sweep out about 45 degrees of arc each so around the stator there are four equal gaps of 45 degrees each.  This creates four equal sections of magnets and four gaps.
  Now build the rotor.  This time four neodymium magnets at 90 degree angles to each
other around the rotor also curved and thin, N pole facing out. The rotor magnets should sweep out lets say 10 degrees of arc each (just a guess for now).  Real simple so far.  Now heres the main detail:  Rotor magnets should be FREE TO SLIDE RADIALLY INWARDS on a shaft towards the center of the hub but should have a mechanical stop so they are prevented from just quite reaching the neutral line of the stator magnets. 
  Now mechanically spin up the rotor using an electric starter motor.  At a certain
rpm, the rotor magnets will go to the stops due to centrifugal force.  The stops are set so the rotor magnets will enter the field of the stator magnets just inside the
neutral line so experience a very small repulsion as they enter.  Now disengage the starter. 
  As the rotor starts to slow down slightly, it reaches a speed where the stator magnets can now start to repel the rotor magnets inward.  As the neo rotor magnet rotates in to the ferrite stator, it is coming in very fast (think magnetic lag) and just inside the preestablished neutral line.  Very little force required to enter the field of the ferrite stator magnet.  As the rotor magnet rotates into the field of the stator just inside the neutral line the magnetic lag of the ferrite stator takes over and starts to repel the rotor magnet inward towards the hub.  The rotor magnet is only 10 degrees wide and has 45 degrees of arc to travel past each stator before it reaches a gap.  During this period it is moving further and further inwards due to repulsion from the stator. 
  Now heres the fun part.  What happens to a figure skater when she spins and pulls
her arms in - yeah thats right - turns into a blur.  So as the rotor magnets move
inward, the rotor speeds up (woohoo).   
  Now, as you place a load on the shaft, the rotor starts to slow down again.  Time
everything just right with the appropriate rpm and load and the rotor magnets will have just enough time to slide out to the stops during the 45 degree gap between stator magnets and we're ready for the next power cycle.  Also, this is happening four times simultaneously around the rotor.  So we have assymmetry, polarity changes (goes to near zero at the neutral line), and we're using centrifugal force to do the polarity changes.  Simple huh?
  The rotor is speeding up and slowing down four times each revolution.  Basically
the Wesley Gary effect in rotation.  Sixteen power pulses per revolution.
  The rotor magnet at 10 degrees of arc can probably be increased in width to 20,
30 or more degrees.  Also, the power of the motor can be easily increased simply
by making a longer cylinder with longer magnets (in the direction of the shaft) just like an electric motor.  Everything easily scalable.  Note to self:  Sell that Exxon-Mobil stock first thing Monday morning!

                                         Glenn


 



CLaNZeR

Well Linear slides still not turned up so started to Mill Out some sliders from PlexiGlass until my dust extraction unit blew up grrrrrrrr.

Managed to get one nearly finished as shown below, but the width is going to be to bulky on my small rig, so will wait for the sliders to turn up. They should fit snuggly behind the arms and not increase the width past 25mm for each arm.

So another weekend gone and back off away to work during the week, hopefully next weekend I will have the sliders and manage to get it more towards completion.





I was going to cutout and mount on base piece of PlexiGlass before the Bang!

Regards

Sean.
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CLaNZeR

Hi Glenn

I found this as well a couple of months ago while playing and must admit still reckon there is a use for it.
Check the link below.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1589.0.html

Regards

Sean.


Quote from: attack duck on February 10, 2007, 01:14:42 PM
  Wow, heres something totally weird and wonderful.  Was just playing with a neo and an Ace Hardware ferrite magnet this AM.  If you go N to N and bring them together you get repulsion until you get them within 1/4" of each other. Then you feel the repulsion stop and go neutral.
As you bring them closer, strong attraction takes over and they stick together , N to N.
The neo is so much stronger that at close range the ferrite domains must be realligning.
Part of the Steorn effect?  You can definitely see and feel the neutral line and the
polarity change.  Looks like a no-energy no-brainer magnetic switch to me!  Everyone
needs to try this!

                                           Glenn
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Aerny

Glenn,

Can you repost you story with some visual examples plz? :-\

Namely, I almost got it...I guess

attack duck

  Hi Sean - thanks for the link - looks like the real deal to me.  Whats really cool with
this is that you can construct the mag field so that there is increasing repulsion the
further you separate the magnets (in a narrow zone just outside the neutral line). 
I think this is fantastic as it allows the magnet to enter the field with little energy expended and then be accelerated away with added energy. Thats just not normal! 
The domains are all realligning in the weaker ferrite magnet acting just like transistor
switches.  At the neutral line, all switches are turned off.  Just outside the neutral line, some of the switches turn on.  A little further and more are turned on.  At the outer limit of the zone, all switches are turned on and you have reached maximum repulsion.  Outside this zone, there is just the normal diminishing repulsion with distance.  This outer area is what we have been trying to use for years with no practical results.
  Another cool thing is that there should be hundreds of different configurations that can use this technique!    No doubt Steorn is trying to get patents on as many configurations as possible.
Theres no way they can patent them all though.  All you have to do is think of one they didn't and you'll be rich and famous on top of saving the planet!

                                                Glenn