aluminum can and copper wire batterys

[old man]

jeanna
thanks  i will do that thanks


the_big_m_in_ok

i  have them in a series  and for the  Bleach and ammonia i no what that does been there done that when i was about 15 NEVER WILL i do that agin lol and what i am trying to do is power a Bedini all the time who nows what i will do i got all kind of thing i wont to do i could light my house with them lol you never no all i need is about 10.000 cans and a lot of copper there so muck you could do lol  i just looking for power lol for my shed for now then ill go from the  and this way i can us what i got to do it why buy it when you can find it

thanks for the help

tom ( old man )

[the_big_m_in_ok]

the_big_m_in_ok

...i  have them in a series  and for the  Bleach and ammonia i no what that does been there done that when i was about 15 NEVER WILL i do that agin lol ...

Good.  Your neighbors might object and become upset if you were to do that!          

... and what i am trying to do is power a Bedini all the time who nows ...

Well, you will still need quite a few of these batteries, to put it very gently.  Thousands of units in series and parallel, probably.

... what i will do i got all kind of thing i wont to do i could light my house with them lol you never no all i need is about 10.000 cans and a lot of copper there so muck you could do lol ...

Why use cans?  See below for my informal test results---a  first! for my research contribution here at OU.   
You might need more than 10,000 batteries, but if you use recyclable parts to build them, it shouldn't be terribly expensive.  However, you'll need enough room to store all this stuff.

... i just looking for power lol for my shed for now ...

Good, start small and work up from there.  It could take, say, 10-15,000 watts for enough power to run power tools and the lights.  Heat in the winter, for example.  Make plans for possible expansion.

... then ill go from the  and this way i can us what i got to do it why buy it when you can find it
thanks for the help
tom ( old man )

Now that you said it, I have test results on this thread to report:

Taking empty plastic soda or water bottles (trash on the streets---everywhere!) I built 3 water batteries using tap water only.

Starting with 2 solid strands of 24 ga. copper wire twisted together and a piece of magnetic (not stainless, non-magnetic) wire about 12 ga. I had on a small roll---and finally---a piece of heavy aluminum wire about 8-10 ga. I bought from dollar store.

I filled three bottles with city tap water and put 2 ea. "electrodes" in different combinations in each; then measured the resulting voltage across each with my DMM.
RESULTS:

POS       VDC       NEG

Cu          .34        Fe
Cu          .78        Al
Fe          .14        Al
NOTE:
These are average readings because the figures fluctuated about .02-.2 volts either way randomly.  But, you get the idea?  The electrodes didn't touch each other in the bottle.  All bottles were about as full as you would see with soda or water on a store shelf.  Room temperature.  Bottles were rinsed out first, but that's all.  (Tap water is notoriously highly electrically conductive.)

Next I might build 3 more with salt water.  I'll also check the voltage in a few days and see if they fell any in voltage during the time period.

--Lee

[The Observer]

Hello,

Last night I attempted to make a Water Capacitor similar to the tube design of Stan Meyer.

A 2 inch long Copper tube inside 2 1/2 inch long Steel Pipe separated by rubber bands.

I threw the thing in a pill jar with some good old City Tap and it is giving off .700 volts !   

Hmm... I could make 10 per night.... in a month I'd have a nice 200 V supply... or in parallel to charge a 12 Volt Battery that runs the lights with a JT Setup..

The Observer

[the_big_m_in_ok]

the_big_m_in_ok said:

Fresh water (tap)
POS       VDC       NEG

Cu          .34        Fe
Cu          .78        Al
Fe          .14        Al



Salt water
Cu          .34        Fe
Cu          .72        Al
NOTE:
This was done in the mid-evening.





At 7 A.M. the next morning:
Fresh water
Cu          .53      Fe
Cu          .52      Al
Fe          .4        Al



Salt water
Cu         .38       Fe
Cu         .55       Al

The trends are obvious:
A) Salt water doesn't add significant voltage to any cell and costs money, anyway
B) Iron(steel) and copper can "age"? overnight and increase voltage 50% or more, except for:
c) Aluminum-containing cells degrade performance over several hour's time and aluminum wire, especially, isn't widely available
Qualifications:
Long term effects like electrolytic effects on electrodes and degradation of what passes for electrolyte hasn't been considered yet

Other electrolytes like washing soda or something corrosive like dissolved Drano or white vinegar haven't been considered due to cost and potential safety issues

Mixing different types of electrolytes might be especially risky, depending what they are

These are unknown factors to my experience, so the reader is warned

--Lee

[old man]

all

well led out so now i will go for 2 can test
2 with white vinegar and two with bleach water and two with lemon A later on today let you all no

with one tea spoon in each


tom


lee
thank you  for your in put and yout test