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Lets Just burn water instead for now! Plasma Injector rework

Started by Hope, July 24, 2010, 02:27:59 PM

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Hope

I am NOT to credit on this, only that I do believe it can be used as an H2O burner is new.   It is a simple design, should be cheap to build this reworked plasma igniter.

Hope


CompuTutor

Hope, if you can still edit your post,
you might want to remove the end "L"

Incorrect:
http://www.isomatic.co.uk/welds.html

Correct:
http://www.isomatic.co.uk/welds.htm



Very nice transformers,
but they are for resistance (Spot) welding.



Ideas have been around, but a high temp ceramic
that can handle the vibration, pressure, and heat
of an ICE that doesn't need to be "Fired" to harden
seems to be the stop sign on testing.

Perhaps something in a two part epoxy form
with suspended ceramic dust may surface ?

Whom here knows of a suitable, affordable, available product
that all experimentors here can utilize for plasma plug tests ?



Hope

Ok, your right about the ceramic but I found this link for the ceramic replacement we can pour in,  this epoxy will be a big item in new products soon.
http://www.epoxies.com/therm.htm   the HV should be able to be adapted from the normal spark, you'll need a voltage divider  and don't forget the 5KV discharge cap.   Timing will be near TDC if effective. 

CompuTutor

I appreciate your vigor on this matter,
but I need to point out a few things please.

These are thermally conductive compounds,
the opposite of what is usually used in plugs.

Then there is the flame retardant aspect,
will the compound survive repeated quick
exposure to the explosions in the chamber.

Add product expansion (When heated)
to the list of considerations of selection.

Now the list is real short.

But the real stinger is an ability to sustain
the continuous high operating temperatures
continuous explosions, the shockwaves too,
and now the killer.

Dielectric strength.

Even if you get the whole first list fulfilled,
most consumer grade compounds will fail
from a sustained exposure to high potentials.

a large voltage potential makes things fail over time
without any of the above list of additional criteria.



I just hung up with a knowledgeable person at
"Epoxies, Etc..." on this topic, he said he has
nothing that would come close to this application.

I do appreciate you putting effort into this.

But a jetted ceramic kiln is minimum needed.

Maybe tomorrow I'll call a few spark plug companies,
and ask them what criteria they need meet themselves.