Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

[rlm555339]

Actually you all have good ideas.  Kenbo0422 says to put a turbo on it.  Techstuff says to create a water mist.  Pres says to make it a 3 cycle.  Too bad I don't have a barrel of $$$ because I'd probably try to combine all of those attributes and see what happens if one "built" a real water motor.  Maybe we just solved the problem.

Any investors in here with an entrepreneureal spirit?     Kane said he has the tools and equipment to make a motor.

[pres]

Ron wrote: "Too bad I don't have a barrel of $$$ because I'd probably try to combine all of those.."

Years ago, when I had the $$ to work on it, I didn't have the time.
Now I've got the time but no $$!
( one of life's conundrums )

Oh well,
have you wondered where all those electrons go when we ignite a volume of BG?
Any ideas on how to put them to use after a "big bang"? i.e. ignition.

Maybe possible to reuse them for making more gas?

It seems that a BG powered piston (with its inherent reciprocating motion) would
make an excellent free-piston air compressor. Say, to power an aircar.
Lots of pressure and volume available.
Ref:  http://www.theaircar.com/

Pres

[rlm555339]

It seems that a BG powered piston (with its inherent reciprocating motion) would
make an excellent free-piston air compressor. Say, to power an aircar.
Lots of pressure and volume available.
Ref:? http://www.theaircar.com/

Pres

I was thinking perhaps more on the idea of a 3 chambered rotary motor.  If the curvatures were right the compression stage could be eliminated.  Have an intake, ignition, and then let the cavity disappear as it comes around.  This would take care of the shrinkage part.  Then the only thing to worry about is what to do with the water drops just created.  This function would be the third stage (exhaust if you will).  Just squeeze the water out of a one way channel before it gets around to the intake again.  Maybe one could design a small set of lines (ribs) to keep a specific amount of moisture to create the correct steam for the next cycle. 


What to do with the electrons?  Use Charley Brown's diode array on the rotor surfaces.  (what do I know about diode arrays?)  LOL  They'd have to stand up to lots of heat and light.  Maybe we could capture the light from the explosion also.  Silica cells and diodes in the rotor.  Now THAT's a motor generator. 

sound's good on paper, huh?   

[KSW]

diesel engines ....

have upto 3 times higher compression than petrol (8:1 - 24:1).

It would certianly mean an improvement in efficiency,
although i have a little experience in auto engineering im not familiar with how compression relates to the amount of fuel needed. Would a 3x greater compression mean 3x less fuel is needed?
If this is the case im sure that with the current rates of h2/o2 production you could get it running.

But as i say if someone comes up with an idea that sounds feesible i have got the equipment and skills. I am also willing to put the time, money and effort into building a prototype.

I also have a spare 8hp briggs and stratton engine that i might experiment with this weekend if i have some spare time.
Im still trying to work out how they built there electrolysers on the egas group, as the information given is very spread out in the files ... they could do with consolidating it into a single file.

Although from the calculation below pasted from a message on the group it seems that it is possible to run the engine entirely off the h2/o2 mix.

"Dear All,

Attached is the theoretical computation on how much an alternator needs to power your egas systems.

If my calculations are correct, you will have so less power input required to run your system.


Here is the actual formula:

1.) Amperage output x voltage output = watts output
     i.e. 100amps output at 14.7 volts = 1470watts

2.) Watt output x efficiency = watts input required
     for 50% divide by .5, for 55% divide by .55, for 73% divide by .73

3.) Watts input divided by 745.7 = HP requirement

So, based on Brads experiments he is using 60 amps

12v x 60 amps = 720 watts

converting it to Hp:

720 watts /745.7 = 0.96553573823253319029100174332842 HP

SO he will get more than he would be using for his engine ... "


Kane

[rlm555339]

diesel engines ....

have upto 3 times higher compression than petrol (8:1 - 24:1).

It would certianly mean an improvement in efficiency,
although i have a little experience in auto engineering im not familiar with how compression relates to the amount of fuel needed. Would a 3x greater compression mean 3x less fuel is needed?


Kane

I don't know about the less fuel part but if you could get the compression to about 400 psi, the mixture would auto-ignite by itself from what I've been reading.  No spark plug necessary.