Patent announcement

[brian334]

Did you ever hear of a water hammer?

[Airstriker]

Ok I've just read wiki about water hammer. So what ?

[Airstriker]

one of the first machines i ever designed did this easily, i don't know how yours works, mine was a simple flap valve on the top that opened when it reach the top the tank would fill and sink again, the floating tank was inside a large fish tank, the base of the tank had a hole and a long flexible piece of tube that went out through the wall of the fish tank glass with some simple silicone, naturally as the tank hit bottom it simply pushed a rod that opened the base hole and pushed closed the flap at the top and gravity emptied about half of the water. a better engineer would have had a hollow rod through the hose to allow air in, as mine kept making a vacum, it worked, and you could patent it as it does work and could produce power, but as you can imagine where water flows with gravity for it to be commerciallly viable it must produce more than a hydro setup of equal flow. The patent office will grant a patent on anything that works, it does not have to be practical nor be commercially viable, simply be a novel inventive step and work, the one you just read works, but is simply a toy, anyone wishing to build it do not forget the airline inlet through the outlet hose, and the upper flap had a cork on top that pull the lid closed from above and when in free air the weight of the lid makes it fall open, and stay open until water stops pouring in, the lid of the floating tank had grooves from the outside running to the centre because the top would always be too high out of the water to refill, the rod is simply through rubber gromits from clark rubber. and an aluminium tank sealed with silicone.

I imagine this device has a similar principal, other wise a gravity pump not relying on a downhill freefall could be used for anything, and something much more powerful that this.

Not raining on your parade, i thought mine was the coolest thing ever, and was indeed a novel patentable invention.

Note, I am involved in the design of a hydro project being funded by venture capital, and you can bet the first math that was done was flow rate for work of the new machines of existing hydro before they even looked at it, my input was the physics and mechanical side of the design. The math I leave to everyone else, I knew my design was better simply by flow weight volume over time, what that means in kiliowatts I have no idea. I hope I am wrong and you have discovered something no one else has thought of in this gravity pump.

I like Quinn's idea a lot better. It seems not to be affected by hydrostatic pressure at all. The idea used to empty the tank completely out of water by allowing the air to come in is also great. What am I missing Quinn ? Why do you say it's not a good machine to build ? You say: "where water flows with gravity for it to be commerciallly viable it must produce more than a hydro setup of equal flow". I don't agree with that. In a hydro setup you need a difference in altitude between two levels for the water to fall and "make" power. But this will only work (in a commercial way) if this water falls free in a natural way (you don't have to pump it back to the first level). As for your design, you can place it anywhere. So again... what am I missing ? Maybe I will have to say sorry for not taking you seriously Quinn.
By the way...Did you publish some more info on this anywhere else ? Pictures maybe ? Just asking. Cheers.

[brian334]

Who the hell is Quinn?

[Airstriker]

Ok you don't have to answer my last questions Quinn. I know the answer. The trick is... that the big tank will finally become empty ;] All the water will fall out of it through the mentioned flexible tube ;] So no closed loop. Sad. And indeed it acts like hydro setup ;]