This video shows a strange effect I have noticed while experimenting with magnets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs
I am in the process of researching this effect and will keep you posted with updated findings.
From the youtube clip.
@lasersaber
I am glad you joined the Leedskalnin Quest , so far i must admit you are one of the first to actually get it ...
I hope to help you as much as i can .
I have fond this video you will find interesting .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAnEMfJRx8&feature=related
When the compass stops turning , it could be 1 of 2 things .
First the orientation of the device compared to the lay-lines , second the rotation gained too much speed for the compass .
Mark
Hi all.........I can't watch vids ,dial-up sucks,...but from the pics is this just not an electomagnet with the fields turned back in on themselves,......causing the distorted fields .......maybe several fields turned in to face each other.....kind of like the halbach array...........but three dimensional......dimension is the key I think.....shylo
I see a lot of experiments. Does anyone have working units of any of these experiments for sale/ fully assembled?
I'm looking for home lamps that require no electricity
Quote from: imhotep on November 25, 2010, 10:39:45 PM
I see a lot of experiments. Does anyone have working units of any of these experiments for sale/ fully assembled?
I'm looking for home lamps that require no electricity
Perhaps buy yourself some solar panels...but
Aren't you the famous "imhotep"? Hmm, I was under the impression you had already developed free energy?
.99
Quote from: Mk1 on November 25, 2010, 12:18:21 PM
@lasersaber
I am glad you joined the Leedskalnin Quest , so far i must admit you are one of the first to actually get it ...
I hope to help you as much as i can .
I have fond this video you will find interesting .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAnEMfJRx8&feature=related
When the compass stops turning , it could be 1 of 2 things .
First the orientation of the device compared to the lay-lines , second the rotation gained too much speed for the compass .
Mark
Hi. Have you observed the same effect yourself? The video is slightly confusing in that you don't see (and aren't told) if the coils have just been energised, or are been energised repeatedly - in other words, how long the 'effect' is evident from the compass movement. I like the idea of the circulating current becoming too fast for the compass to keep up. Any Hall-effect device and a scope would show what was happening though...
First off I hope everyone who celebrates thanksgiving had a nice holiday!
@Lasersaber. Just some thoughts here. The polarity I see here is just like a normal coil. Looking lengthwise down a regular coil the polarity is reversed on each side of the coil. I have always thought that magnets or magnetism was a form of gravity. A novel idea I have on the voltage is the forward inertia of the current approaching the apex of the rod. Just like a fast moving car going around a corner. The outside arc is longer than the inside arc. That it would seem would create an imbalance. Im wondering if a notch halfway through was made at 45 degrees or so at the apex,and iron or copper wire wound around the apex,if more voltage could be picked up. Im also wondering if a perfect 45 V would pick up more.
If a dry dc cell battery can hold a charge and light a bulb without a field collapse you should be able to use a pmh in some way.
Ive been looking at panel meters and wanting to build a standing unit. Where did you get your analog meter?
@Mk. Our conversation is not over. Your pendulum direction was different than someone elses version Ive seen. His was rotating around with the wheel. Yours makes more sense as its a pulse. The black hole gravity video got me to thinking about its gravitational spin. Ill relate my thoughts on this in your thread.
Quote from: poynt99 on November 27, 2010, 10:00:44 PM
Perhaps buy yourself some solar panels...but
Aren't you the famous "imhotep"? Hmm, I was under the impression you had already developed free energy?
.99
hey poynty, maybe you should try using the 'search' function before making assumptions?
a search for "imhotep" comes up with a lot of hits, including this post from the person you are referring to...
this is the user you were thinking of: **~imhotep~**
had you checked the thread(s) about
his work, you would know this... http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5296.msg118834#msg118834
p.s. don't forget to tell ion et al. i'm sure they
will get a kick out of it... ;)
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 28, 2010, 01:08:48 PM
hey poynty, maybe you should try using the 'search' function before making assumptions?
a search for "imhotep" comes up with a lot of hits, including this post from the person you are referring to... this is the user you were thinking of: **~imhotep~**
had you checked the thread(s) about his work, you would know this... http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5296.msg118834#msg118834
p.s. don't forget to tell ion et al. i'm sure they will get a kick out of it... ;)
The squiggles etc.. I forgot about those. I've checked into the guy's work enough to have forgotten about him almost entirely, except for the notion that he believes (or believed) he had or has something that provides him with free energy.
I assumed it was the same person, and I may be wrong. Folks sometimes re-register, sometimes with only a lightly different username.
You did not say so, but do you know with 100% certainty that it is not the same person?
.99
Why do people think magnets = energy.
There is no such thing.
A generator needs to be turned and it is this movement that is converted into electricity.
The magnet adds 0,0 how hard is it to see they do not deliver or contain energy?
Hi ....XS-NRG.......if I hold two magnets in attraction mode a 1/4 inch apart,....it takes alot of work to keep them from snapping together,...if they are in repelling ,it takes work to keep them a 1/4 inch from each other.......gravity is the same,...the work or energy I put out to jump 1 foot in the air , gravity does the same amount to pull me back down.......this is my take on things .....I could be wrong.......thanx .....shylo
It is ZERO
When i drop a ball from a tall building it will go down, so where did the energy come from?
Many will think and say gravity but that is incorrect.
The energy comes from myself carrying the ball up the stairs in the first place.
Just think about that and you will realize these things are not what they seem to be.
These are Forces not Sources and those are two different things.
I do not know why so many people associate the energy with the magnet i guess they do not look deep enough.
Like that Lawrence Tseung who thinks he can tap energy from magnets by sticking them to a transformer not realizing the energy comes from the turbines driving the grid the transformer is connected to.......i could go on you know but the basic idea here is that magnets do not carry energy when in rest.
Quote from: XS-NRG on November 28, 2010, 02:03:37 PM
Why do people think magnets = energy.
There is no such thing.
A generator needs to be turned and it is this movement that is converted into electricity.
The magnet adds 0,0 how hard is it to see they do not deliver or contain energy?
not true. we no longer need to waste energy driving a mechanical armature EMF against lenz, instead we can utilize a low powered pulsed EM coil placed on the bloch wall it self. A pulse train switches the magnet to make/ break flux path completion.
employ superposition of fields. electromagnetic induction can be separated from magnetic flux energy without the need for motional electric field.
reduce the magnetic flux intensity to zero with superposition principle and the virtual un-destroyed field associated with uncanceled flux is still present. It is the virtual field.
It is this virtual field which produces pure motional electric field in the space surrounding the generator.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10065.msg265498#new
QuoteI do not know why so many people associate the energy with the magnet i guess they do not look deep enough.
I my case it's because of where I noticed the current at. I am in the process of trying to improve and pinpoint the exact cause of the current. I have made a bigger U magnet to test. I thought I would test it before magnetizing it but found that it had become very magnetic just from the heating and bending process. It dose make a lot more current than the smaller one but it is hard to tell if it's a product of the magnetism or from the bend in the steel. I will keep testing and post a video of the results in the near future.
Quote from: hidave on November 28, 2010, 07:03:16 PM
not true. we no longer need to waste energy driving a mechanical armature EMF against lenz, instead we can utilize a low powered pulsed EM coil placed on the bloch wall it self. A pulse train switches the magnet to make/ break flux path completion.
employ superposition of fields. electromagnetic induction can be separated from magnetic flux energy without the need for motional electric field.
reduce the magnetic flux intensity to zero with superposition principle and the virtual un-destroyed field associated with uncanceled flux is still present. It is the virtual field.
It is this virtual field which produces pure motional electric field in the space surrounding the generator.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10065.msg265498#new
blablabla....
Don't just talk...
Show me the virtual power.
You can't.
Magnets do not carry energy.
Quote from: XS-NRG on November 28, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
blablabla....
Don't just talk...Show me the virtual power.
You can't.
Magnets do not carry energy.
Tell me one good reason why I should risk losses in demonstrating conversion of magnetic vortex into electrical energy?.
you fail to see the point of the thread, and it may be not worth the trouble in explaining the Reverse Thermodynamic theory of how the bloch wall radiates energy.
before you can comprehend free energy machines called Life, you need to discard the heat and entropy destructions that you hold as the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
Quote from: lasersaber on November 28, 2010, 07:20:32 PM
I my case it's because of where I noticed the current at. I am in the process of trying to improve and pinpoint the exact cause of the current. I have made a bigger U magnet to test. I thought I would test it before magnetizing it but found that it had become very magnetic just from the heating and bending process. It dose make a lot more current than the smaller one but it is hard to tell if it's a product of the magnetism or from the bend in the steel. I will keep testing and post a video of the results in the near future.
great findings, it may be very helpful if you consider looking into the Bloch Wall theories and it's gravity wave properties and functions in the electromagnetic spectrum.
please also consider the inductance from heating and it's increased effect on magnetism.
Maybe this is a similar effect: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm
Quote from: XS-NRG on November 28, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
blablabla....
What about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo3qG_wvNE0
Quote from: Qwert on November 29, 2010, 10:28:28 AM
What about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo3qG_wvNE0
Haha another utube hero
Quote from: hidave on November 29, 2010, 01:42:50 AM
Tell me one good reason why I should risk losses in demonstrating conversion of magnetic vortex into electrical energy?.
you fail to see the point of the thread, and it may be not worth the trouble in explaining the Reverse Thermodynamic theory of how the bloch wall radiates energy.
before you can comprehend free energy machines called Life, you need to discard the heat and entropy destructions that you hold as the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
even more bla bla...
where is it?
Quote from: XS-NRG on November 29, 2010, 12:25:31 PM
Haha another utube hero
even more bla bla...
where is it?
i have it. you don't know what i know and lets keep it at that.
blah on friend ;D
blochwall is for me only and elite ufo ;D
Quote from: hidave on November 29, 2010, 02:02:17 PM
i have it. you don't know what i know and lets keep it at that.
blah on friend ;D
blochwall is for me only and elite ufo ;D
Woo!
Lasersaber,
There are many here that are quite interested in your experiments,and look forward to your posts on this !
Thank you for taking the time to investigate this anomoly ,and share your hard work.
Chet
Quote from: Qwert on November 29, 2010, 10:28:28 AM
What about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo3qG_wvNE0
Voltage alone has nothing to do with energy ! Not to even mention free energy ! Oh dear ;]
hi all .....been doing lots of reading in many topics ....seems voltage is pretty much useless,..........it's all about amperage.........everything I read says voltage is only the potential to deliver amperage due to resistance...24 volts through a 1k ohm resistor should give .24ma is this right or not??.........if this is right the math dose'nt work not with the batteries I made anyway.....shylo
Quote from: lasersaber on November 29, 2010, 09:48:43 AM
Maybe this is a similar effect: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm
classic theories does not apply to nano science, they don't work.
The second law of Thermodynamics is supported by several loose analogies. The second law break down in the nano scale realm. It's called Reverse Thermodynamics.
The metal 200 nm ring is an effect of thermal radiation, Thermal radiation only becomes heat when it contacts a medium where the radiation energy is the energy source that becomes kinetic energy.
http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0402665
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRE/v60/i4/p4946_1
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/Ge...=cvips&gifs=yes
http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v71/i10/p1477_1
Charles Brown of Kauai Hawaii has done lots of work in this field with his Super Diode Array free energy device.
The diode array is intended to escape the second law of thermodynamics by passively directing with acceptable losses the random movements of electrons in nanometer scale diodes. The diodes are organized into a coherent collective which aggregates the small rectified intermittent outputs into useful power. The diode array is intended to absorb heat from a macroscopically uniform temperature of zero ordinary thermodynamic potential while releasing exactly as much electrical energy; it converts heat directly into electricity. The intermediary is Johnson noise a random radio frequency power expression of thermally moving electrons. The diode array should produce power anywhere warmer than absolute zero; indoors, in chassis boxes, in the dark, on winter nights, in the abyssal depths of the ocean.
A far infra red photovoltaic cell is a follow up device which should do the same thing with less practicality. The ability to convert macroscopically uniform heat into another form of energy is so basic that if it is possible at all then there should be many ways to do it. There would be many applications of the process.
Quote from: Airstriker on November 30, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Voltage alone has nothing to do with energy ! Not to even mention free energy ! Oh dear ;]
T.T.Brown & Podkletnov. Strictly voltage and propels objects.
@lightsaber,
If you connect a wire between the two points that you're measuring from, i.e. short it out and leave it shorted for a while, I wonder if it'll become easier to remove the keeper. In other words, would shorting it for a time drain it of energy and reduce the magnetic field?
Of course you'd have to do a control experiment where you leave it for the same amount of time without shorting it and see if the keeper still becomes easier to remove.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
Quote from: Airstriker on November 30, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Voltage alone has nothing to do with energy ! Not to even mention free energy ! Oh dear ;]
If you are standing in a lightning storm, you may care to rethink.
Lasersaber, I read your topic and I tried to replicate your experiment but
without success. See the PMH I built and used in the attached photo.
The core used is plain iron ø10mm. Unfortunately I had no more material
for the keeper so I simply used an iron horseshoe I previously made, but I
don't think it could make any difference, since both pieces adhere perfectly
and stay stuck well once energized. The µAmmeter I used is even more
sensible than yours since mine is 0-100 µA range. I also tried with the DMM
and the scope, sliding carefully to find a hot spot but I couldn't obtain the
even weakest deflection. I'm almost giving out.
Since I want believe you're not cheating us and you're actually reporting
a very interesting effect, I would strongly suggest you to investigate further
to understand the cause. Unfortunately I heard no more updates from you
or from any other people who could replicate the effect - just off topic posts.
The first thing I would do is reversing the coil polarity and check if the hot
spot keeps the original polarity or not. Then I would try substituting your
keeper with a flat one. Then removing it. May be you would be able to
measure something even with just the core without energy, coils and
keepers ? If it's real or rather some side effect, it has to be understood.
Hope to hear updates from you soon
Elena (a Testatika researcher and experimenter)
Hi Hel,
My uAmmeter is actually a 0-500. I have built many more of these and need to post an updated video. I have been able to increase the effect by about double of what you saw in my last Magtap video. Even at that I do not think you would see it on a 100 uA meter. I know others have replicated the effect, it's just the amount of current is so low it's very easy to miss.
Quote from: lasersaber on January 24, 2011, 06:21:24 AM
Hi Hel,
My uAmmeter is actually a 0-500. I have built many more of these and need to post an updated video. I have been able to increase the effect by about double of what you saw in my last Magtap video. Even at that I do not think you would see it on a 100 uA meter. I know others have replicated the effect, it's just the amount of current is so low it's very easy to miss.
Yes I saw you ammeter is 0-500µA. But since mine has a shorter range, 0-100µA,
it IS more sensible. One ranging 0-1µA would even be ways moooore sensible.
Why you say the opposite ?
However, I again suggest you to follow a strong scientific approach. Please make
the tests I suggested ! Try to isolate the actual cause of that even little current.
Sorry, I guess it was too early in the morning for me. Of coarse you are right. I do not know what I was thinking.
I will continue to test the effect and share what I learn. John Bedini has also tested the effect and seen the same thing. He has some pretty good ideas as to what is causing it.
Ok. However I think it wouldn't be a so bad idea to at least measure the hot
spot with no magnetic field and no keeper to see if the current is still there or not.
I will stay tuned of course.
Cheers
&
@ lasersaber
Interesting work you have going on here. It almost looks like the voltage that you are measuring is a type of hall effect voltage in the plane of transformer (PMH).
I'll try a setup in a few days (busy with college) to try to replicate what you have shown. I'm wondering if the effect you are seeing is due to the material you are using for your PMH.
@Hel, you try to replicate Kunel patent ?
A "pulsed DC transformer with embeded magnet" ?
You repel magnetic field from the magnet and the magnet induce the flux in the coils ?
--> Kunel patent:
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf (http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf)
Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 24, 2011, 12:12:50 PM
@Hel, you try to replicate Kunel patent ?
A "pulsed DC transformer with embeded magnet" ?
You repel magnetic field from the magnet and the magnet induce the flux in the coils ?
--> Kunel patent:
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf (http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf)
Not in the specific, even if I tried many pulsed stuff + magnets till now without
any interesting result. I could list you many. I frankly prefer to give a precedence now
to results from actual experimenters who you can talk to, rather than to patents.
It's all damnedly full of patents of not working/not tested devices out there that I
wonder how the various PTO can/could assign them !
/&
Quote from: Paul-R on January 21, 2011, 12:35:01 PM
Quote from: Airstriker
Voltage alone has nothing to do with energy ! Not to even mention free energy ! Oh dear ;]
If you are standing in a lightning storm, you may care to rethink.
We have not to rethink. Voltage alone has nothing to do with energy. If there is "lightning", there is current, not voltage alone.
Quote from: Hel on January 24, 2011, 12:46:19 PM
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I frankly prefer to give a precedence now to results from actual experimenters who you can talk to, rather than to patents.
It's all damnedly full of patents of not working/not tested devices out there that I wonder how the various PTO can/could assign them !
Me too. It is a shame to see the incredible number of not working patents with obscure explanations and black boxes, nevertheless accepted by the patent offices against the public interest all over the world.
@ Hel, @ exnihiloest:
Yes, OK they are a lot of patent that does'nt work but not all, beware to not "throw the baby with the bathwater" also...
I'am aware of the patent is only a legal protection of an "idea" or a device, but Patent Office doesn't control if the device work or not, sometimes the idea or the invention work but the inventor hide something to avoid replication of his device (comercial secrecy). I know even multinational do this, sometimes they keep all secret and even doesn't patenting...
@lasersaber
have you considered the possibility that it was current from your finger touching the pmh while you were holding the probe. i think you can get the same effect just by touching the probe to your finger. if you squeeze the prrobe hard i think you will even see an increased current.
thanks for all your great work
hoping i'm wrong
sam
Quote from: supersam on January 25, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
@lasersaber
have you considered the possibility that it was current from your finger touching the pmh while you were holding the probe. i think you can get the same effect just by touching the probe to your finger. if you squeeze the prrobe hard i think you will even see an increased current.
thanks for all your great work
hoping i'm wrong
sam
I suspected the same thing and looked for times when he wasn't touching the metal of the probe with his finger. I don't think he is at 5:23. @lasersaber, can you confirm it works with your finger not touching the metal of the probe?
Also, @lasersaber, to aid replication, where did you get the metal rods? Did you bend them yourself starting with straight rods? If so, how?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org