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Title: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
im an architect and a researcher
im new here

what is the easiet gravity wheel i can start with
i only need 2 kw

Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: TinselKoala on March 22, 2012, 01:24:40 AM
A water wheel, powered by a running stream, hooked up to a DC generator.

Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 09:53:28 AM
i didnt understand u didnt give me any details ok no problem  thank u nice hint

...im talking about a gravity wheel which is easy to make or someone made an step by step tutorial for and can produce like 2 kw or something
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: excessAlex on March 22, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
In the site which sports the words "Free Energy for free independant people" you can find a slew of Newtonian will show you the nearest gas station where to buy your energy cheaper and environmentally friendly, with which you can power a generator with a combustion engine with pistons and connecting rods and an alternator with rotating brushes, which are the result of the latest research and most sophisticated technology available to us. .. and this is the ONLY WAY.
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: johnny874 on March 22, 2012, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
im an architect and a researcher
im new here

what is the easiet gravity wheel i can start with
i only need 2 kw

  Eagle1,
What TK said is right. While it can't be gauranteed, the 4 weighted wheel might be the next simplest.
The basic idea is that the path a weight follows from top center to bottom center is longer than the path upwards.
The problem to over come is that the distance a weight advances radially on it's way down increases it's upwards travel.
The math can be done to show what might work. What is not understood is the time it takes for weights to shift relative to their upward and downward motion. This affects the amount of time a weight is in over balance and would be powering the wheel.

                                                                                                           Jim                       

edited to add; Eagle1, anymore, this is a skeptics forum.
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: AB Hammer on March 22, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
im an architect and a researcher
im new here

what is the easiet gravity wheel i can start with
i only need 2 kw

What is your purpose for this build?

There are many designs out there, but none of them work. That is are you are looking for a working one? but there are several ones that make good design. You can look at the MTs that Bessler put in his book for inspiration.  Here is a link to see them. They are in lots of 20 so at the bottom you can click and go to the next set.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20



Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: TinselKoala on March 23, 2012, 12:16:16 AM
Here, maybe this will give you some ideas. I particularly like the one at 3:00 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:34:37 PM
Quote from: johnny874 on March 22, 2012, 05:45:39 PM
  Eagle1,
What TK said is right. While it can't be gauranteed, the 4 weighted wheel might be the next simplest.
The basic idea is that the path a weight follows from top center to bottom center is longer than the path upwards.
The problem to over come is that the distance a weight advances radially on it's way down increases it's upwards travel.
The math can be done to show what might work. What is not understood is the time it takes for weights to shift relative to their upward and downward motion. This affects the amount of time a weight is in over balance and would be powering the wheel.

                                                                                                           Jim                       

edited to add; Eagle1, anymore, this is a skeptics forum.



thank you for you help have you made a one that works >??
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:38:43 PM
Quote from: AB Hammer on March 22, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
What is your purpose for this build?

There are many designs out there, but none of them work. That is are you are looking for a working one? but there are several ones that make good design. You can look at the MTs that Bessler put in his book for inspiration.  Here is a link to see them. They are in lots of 20 so at the bottom you can click and go to the next set.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20


man of-course im looking for a working one :D this is so funny

im not looking for concepts

and it will better if something u made it by ur self

...by the way there alot of this concepts but what type of them works ??

...
by the way do u know a program which have magnet ..factor and shielding tool factor

so i can try with it ....to make a magnetic motor ...like the troy one
till i successed and then make it in real life
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:41:16 PM
Quote from: TinselKoala on March 23, 2012, 12:16:16 AM
Here, maybe this will give you some ideas. I particularly like the one at 3:00 on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E

u know what i was watching this thousand times i like it

and i tried to make that flask way ...but faild ..
i think no one succeeded realy in making that flask way
what is that green liquid

Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:55:34 PM
well there is idea came to my mind

im thinking to try to
use
75 watt celling fan i think it is strong and put ring over its arms ...and then put a rubber wire to connect it to a 120 amp car alternator

connect the a car battery and the 2 wires from the altenator to a switch then to a 2000 inverter

and then start with the battery ...and after it work a little i switch off the battery

assume that the altenator will not work at his total power lets say he will give u only 50 amps 12*50 = 600 watts

600-75=525 watts can be used for anything

to make it reach 2000
i think may be using of 3 alternators beside each other and connect the output to each other

and also if i could find a step up converter that doesnt make amps go down alot and handle  the big amp it will be wonderful

imagine 42amps * 24v = 1000 watts :D i think i think it will be nice if it is not just a dream

u can make 2 of them if the fan couldn't handle 2 alternators

im i saying pole shet :D ....or this is real ^__^
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: fritznien on March 25, 2012, 02:04:41 AM
be serious man,if it were that easy who would ever buy electricity.
TANSTAAFL, look it up.
fritznien

Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: Rafael Ti on March 25, 2012, 07:09:54 AM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:55:34 PM
im i saying pole shet :D ....or this is real ^__^
If you are interested in electricity you can go to Tesla projects. There is some interesting effects when a coil is switched with high frequency or fed with sharp impulses & high voltage. Many people claim they harness the back EMF of these coils or motors.

TANSTAAFL is rather a law created by people for people. Just a human dogma, which can be bitten...
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: fritznien on March 25, 2012, 04:39:33 PM
raf unless your making eletricity out of nothing i think my point stands.
out of nothing is what the OP was looking for, good luck to him.
fritznien
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: AB Hammer on March 26, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 24, 2012, 11:38:43 PM

man of-course im looking for a working one :D this is so funny

im not looking for concepts

and it will better if something u made it by ur self

...by the way there alot of this concepts but what type of them works ??

...
by the way do u know a program which have magnet ..factor and shielding tool factor

so i can try with it ....to make a magnetic motor ...like the troy one
till i successed and then make it in real life

This is the point. There are none at this time, but give me a little time. LOL

The Youtube video you like, are some clever fakes. That is why it has hypothetical in the name of the video.
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: johnny874 on March 26, 2012, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
im an architect and a researcher
im new here

what is the easiet gravity wheel i can start with
i only need 2 kw

   Eagle1,
I mentioned before the 4 weighted wheel. it's posted in here. What might allow it to work is using stops. Basically a paddle a weight can hit when it rolls out at top right. The paddle would have a lip that the wheel catches. this would allow the wheel to rotate as much as possible in the over balanced position. After something like this, it only gets harder.
There is also Milkovic's 12x. I posted how something similar would work with his water pump. It's in the last page or two.

                                                                                                                                  Jim
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: TinselKoala on March 28, 2012, 12:04:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcPuKv9Z-XE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcPuKv9Z-XE)

:-X
Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: Low-Q on March 28, 2012, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: theshiningeagle on March 22, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
im an architect and a researcher
im new here

what is the easiet gravity wheel i can start with
i only need 2 kw
A water mill will do the work. You need a waterfall and a turbine with a generator on it.  Let's say for example that you have a flow of 20 litres per second with a head of 12 metres. Put those figures in the equation and you will see that: 12 x 20 x 9.81 = 2,354 Watts


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Title: Re: what is the easiet gravity wheel i can do i only need 2 kw
Post by: theshiningeagle on April 05, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
hey mates i dont want something with water

from what i see

that no one in this big site made an over unity working device ???

wow

this is weird