I set up a free energy generator, following the Gray system set up, but using;
1. battery (12v x 3, connected as 24v x12v)
2. inverter
3. self made charger of 30/60v
now, i wire it the way of EV Gray, and then i power the charger using the inverter. I also fed the house electricity from the same point where i power the charger.
MY Observation
1. when i use the 30v of the charger, the whole set up dwindle within 5 mins
2. when i use the 60v of the charger, no matter how low the voltage of the batteries are (i used 3 batteries), the voltage will rise, the 2000VA inverter will carry the whole bulb, the 2 fridges, and 3 television sets of my 3 bedroom flat.
3. just as all the lights come up bright, the diode on the EV Gray improvised section of the setup will blow.
I tried it more than 10 times using different diode ratings, but it came back same (blowing away). so i left it alone
recently i read that using capacitor and the likes, i can get more than i input into a system, and what i did came back flooding to my mind.
i am writing to know if any modification could be done to correct this diode blowing and get a stand alone self charging free energy system.
i used 24v to power the inverter not 12v as shown in the sketch.
kindly help out.
Please list the part numbers of the diodes you have already tried.
Quote from: TinselKoala on September 30, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Please list the part numbers of the diodes you have already tried.
1. Battery: 12v discarded (3)car batteries.
2. 1N4007 diodes; (4) for bridge and rest (2) used as shown.
3. Capacitor across the bridge is 400VDC non polarize.
4. Capacitor close to battery is 50V 2200uf. electrolytic.
This was all i did, i think the charges build up in the 400VDC capacitor, because it is always the bridge or the diode close to the bridge that always blow up.
thank you.
From what I've heard, Some free energy generator produce very high voltage from only 12V, think of 3000V or more.
I recommend put multiple 1N4007 in series(3-5), and PVC wire protect all the wires and insulator type wrap all the connections.
Do you really intend for the diode to be facing the direction you have shown in the schematic? It looks backwards depending on what is it's intended purpose.
Quote from: lzbin80 on October 02, 2013, 04:54:36 AM
From what I've heard, Some free energy generator produce very high voltage from only 12V, think of 3000V or more.
I recommend put multiple 1N4007 in series(3-5), and PVC wire protect all the wires and insulator type wrap all the connections.
thank you all for your support.
1. i am coming from the fact that i read somewhere that the setup will give (12v + 60v) x (60amp + 0.5amp) [battery and transformer voltage and amp summed up to give 4356VA.
2. based on 1 above, and from the fact that i also read somewhere that if the voltage on a battery does not fall, amperage is not consumed, the circuit shown was designed, just by following the E V Gray section for getting the high voltage.
3. with 1, and 2 above, i got a high voltage going into the inverter, but the control is now my problem.
(a) without the control, diodes blow up
(b) without the control, it is likely the inverter too may blow up, since voltage going into the inverter will be too high.
4. so what i need is the help to control point 3 above (since i have confirmed points 1 and 2, and find them to be ok with me)
thank you all
Quote from: e2matrix on October 03, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
Do you really intend for the diode to be facing the direction you have shown in the schematic? It looks backwards depending on what is it's intended purpose.
as for the diode diagram direction, i think it is to allow the electrons flow towards the positive pole of the battery, please correct me if i am wrong.
i am still waiting for directional help and support. thank you all
Hi Folks,
I have not posted for a while, but have been spurred a bit more into action with the rising costs of domestic utility energy - namely electricity and gas!
How Ed Gray's system work's has already been given in Dr. Peter Lindemann's book called "The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity" which is available mainly now as .pdf copies
from the web, as new hardcopies are no longer in print.
I've attached a couple of files for you perusal. The zipped file has some photos of the enclosure I've made for the British Power Pulse modulator driver.
It can source/sink up to 340V, 9A (Freq. Range 1Hz to 1.5MHz) and has active protection. I've yet to procure the thyratron, as they are not readily available off the shelf in Australia - the most common types are Soviet made. The TGI1-50/5 thyratron according to the datasheet can handle up to a decent 50A of current more than enough to handle the remaining voltage discharge from the spark gap assembly, it also has very high di//dt characteristics [steep pulsed edges & short recovery duration] which most semiconductors struggle to handle, without the risk of blowing them up.
Some more info. about them can be found at https://hackaday.com/tag/tgi1-50-5/
Some of the Radiant Longitudinal Wave Energy is picked up by the copper cylinder around the spark plug gap(B) electrode rod after the high voltage (C) capacitor(s) have discharged . This energy is collected to mainly drive a preferred load load of your choosing and some leftover 'Cold Electricity' pulsed DC energy can also be dumped as storage into a 12V battery for charging. Label (D) is the overshoot spark mechanism designed to to protect the circuit along with the PIV shorting 'flywheel' diode arrangement connected in parallel across the high voltage (C) capacitor(s)
Anyhow that's a synopsis on how I think it it works. It may take me another month to construct and source the remaining parts.
Quote from: lifeforce-energy on June 04, 2023, 01:47:41 AM
I've yet to procure the thyratron, as they are not readily available off the shelf in Australia - the most common types are Soviet made. The TGI1-50/5 thyratron according to the datasheet can handle up to a decent 50A of current more than enough
Take me to your place, and with me a ton of junk. We will make a sea container, and in addition to the instruments, I will hide in the container. ;) :) And there I will hide in the forest with the Papuans from the migration services. I won't be a problem for you.
I have so much trash, you don't even suspect what Ali Baba's treasures await you... 8)
Yes, it sure looks like you do live in Aladdin's Cave of electronic treasures :-) :D.
Why not do us all a fav and post the #'s of that tube. That is a whopper. Curious as to what its intended use was. Used to have a few old transmitter tubes for FM but all got lost in the move.
thay
Quote from: ranuhook on October 14, 2013, 10:43:20 AM
i am still waiting for directional help and support. thank you all
Thank you very much for sharing.
If your system power is about 3kW, I think the 1N4007 may have too little current.
It may be better to use 30A600V diodes to connect three in parallel.
It is necessary to determine the cause of the damage to the diode.
If the diode withstand voltage is not enough, resulting in reverse voltage breakdown,
The diode is added in series.
If the diode current is not enough, resulting in overheating breakdown,
Diodes are added using the parallel connection method.
If the circuit runs for a while, it feels hot and then it is damaged.
It may be that the diode current specification is not enough.
If the circuit starts running, the diode is immediately damaged.
It may be that the diode withstand voltage specification is not enough.
Good luck with your experiment.
This has been bugging me now since I posted last. If you are using the 1n4007 they are 1000v at 1A. The non polar cap is what is bothering me. If that causes a reverse voltage to happen then it is good to 700v. But...... only5 mico amps so would not take much current to toast it.
Just thinking out there cause it may cause osc to happen. Would depend on how long your wires are to the diode and cap. If this is out of it, plz correct me as it will clear up a possibility for me.
thay
That original circuit, witch rubish bin did you get it out of ?
it wont do longdetutinal waves or standing waves and 1n4007
diodes wont work as they have only a low frequency and a
1000volt capability blocking capability inc forward voltage.
Agreed, the circuit is rubbish.
In this instance, the inverter is most likely 220V @ 50 or 60Hz. You then rectify 60VAC to about 80V Pulsed DC, then basically shorting the 80V to 24V battery.
The problem is the current. Diodes drop about 0.7V, so you are trying to force the 80V to be within 0.7V of 24V....where will it break?
Tarsier_79
As a general rule most of what we see on the internet is nonsense, generally 99% nonsense if it's coming out of Russia or China.
I like rexresearch, http://www.rexresearch.com/evgray/1gray.htm
Rexresearch has been around a long time and has been proven to be a credible source for information. It's credible because they show the information which is out there without drama or opinion.
The picture below is from the Gray patent which is the only circuit worth replicating.
AC
Quote from: onepower on June 07, 2023, 12:30:50 PM
Tarsier_79
As a general rule most of what we see on the internet is nonsense, generally 99% nonsense if it's coming out of Russia or China.
I like rexresearch, http://www.rexresearch.com/evgray/1gray.htm
Rexresearch has been around a long time and has been proven to be a credible source for information. It's credible because they show the information which is out there without drama or opinion.
The picture below is from the Gray patent which is the only circuit worth replicating.
AC
Are you for real ??? any with a degree can see the posted circuit your advising others to build
is full of bugs and short circuits.
Sil
As nix85 pointed out in his posts on the Holcomb thread yesterday. It's not the complex or mysterious stuff that eludes most people it's the basics hiding in plain sight. You see, there is no such thing as being "objective" when our subconscious mind discards 99% of what our eye's see which is obviously "subjective". It only let's us see what it thinks is directly related to the task at hand based on our own world view but seldom the actual facts of any matter. A real man does not let fickle beliefs rule him but submits to reality no matter how harsh it may seem.
For example, look at the EV gray circuit I posted prior and below, what do you see?. Probably nothing which makes any sense but let's look at the conversion tube labelled as circuit element #14 in the diagram. So we know from the patent the capacitor 16 is charged to high voltage preferably 1kV as a minimum but I found 5kV to 10kV is optimal. The top positively (+) charged HV capacitor plate on cap 16 is connected to the rod 12 in the center of the conversion tube. The (+) HV potential on the center rod 12 is assumed to jump to the next conductor 32, through a carbon resistor 30, then on to conductor 22 then to a series of switches. We see the same thing happening in the expanded diagram of the conversion tube below.
It's supposedly obvious, in plain sight and only a fool would dispute it however it's not even remotely true, it's a deception...
If anyone had actually bothered to see what is actually present they would realize the conversion tube plates 34 are near 50% closer to the (+) charged rod 12 than the opposing element 32 and the resistor. Thus when I built and tested this circuit to scale the arc jumped from rod 12 to the concentric plates 34, through the motor coils 36, charging capacitor 38. The discharge path was then from capacitor 38, through the motor coils 36, to the upper conversion rod 32/resistor 30 and onto the supply batteries.
It's the damnedest thing because I have talked with countless people in the forums who worked decades on this patent who never got any positive results and had literally no idea the gap between 12-32 and 12-34 was different. Look at it, "LOOK AT IT" in both diagrams we can clearly see an obvious difference in the gaps so how in the hell could so many people completely screw up something so simple?.
In this respect Nikola Tesla's friend Mark Twain nailed it...
QuoteIt Ain't What You Don't Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It's What You Know for Sure That Just Ain't So
AC
Put Don Smith's induction coils next to the conversion tube and compare them. Short HV pulses have something in their transients.
The circuit in the patent must be presented in dynamics, as it would work in a motor. The motor switches all at the right time in the right phase.
About the purpose of diodes 44 and 46 this link:
https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/9/8/1292 (https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/9/8/1292)
Diodes are necessary so that the discharge in the switching tube goes out.
alan
QuotePut Don Smith's induction coils next to the conversion tube and compare them. Short HV pulses have something in their transients.
In the beginning I kept making the mistake of looking at form rather than function. To see a circuit as a bunch of objects lumped together in a group. Each object or element having it's properties lumped together and averaged out. We do this so the calculations are easier but in doing so we also limit our options.
The use of HV impulses is easy to understand. If we send an electron down a wire as AC or DC it's linked to all the other electrons behind and in front of it. This links the source to the load as a continuous stream of electrons and energy. Where an impulse can act like a bullet leaving a gun becoming completely independent of the source and destination for a period of time.
Consider Kirchhoff's Voltage and Current laws which is a simple lumped element model for closed circuits. However once we open the circuit and use independent impulses of energy the laws have no application. In which case the sum of all potential differences and currents does not need to be zero. How could it be zero when we can have packets of energy randomly leaving the circuit and arriving somewhere else a period of time later?.
AC
1. The electron is too slow a bullet, it cannot fly faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.
2. In reality, all circuits are closed, if traced.
The old EV Gray 1986 Promotional Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VK0UvTb-M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VK0UvTb-M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnL4BL_YyPE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnL4BL_YyPE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2GaAV92eQ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2GaAV92eQ0)
Something in this video is true, something is an obvious lie.
When he says that the coil is non-metallic, and there is a metal disk on top of the coil, it is clear that this disk is also the core of the coil, although not inside it.
The coils are, of course, wound with copper wire.By the way, with current pulses of more than 1000 amperes, such coils create a stronger blow to copper or aluminum discs than to iron ones.
Similar 100% to Edvin Gray videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fai3Yq3e66c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fai3Yq3e66c)
"Electromagnetic Repulsion by Capacitor"
;D
I studied the Edwin Gray tube and didn't understand where the free energy came from.
For Gray Patent #4,661,747 Figure 2, it is said that when 12 and 32 high-voltage discharge produce a spark,
radiation is generated on 12, and radiant energy or cold electricity is received by 34.
It may be that the OU effect appears in this link.
I also don't know what radiant energy is, I don't know what cold electricity is.
I only know that in a vacuum tube, when the cathode is heated and attracted by the positive high voltage of the anode,
electrons run from the cathode to the anode in a vacuum. Electrons can be seen emitting a faint blue glow.
Because electrons cannot move in the air, the radiation of the radio antenna should not radiate electrons or charges from the antenna,
but only drive the charge around the antenna to vibrate.
If the Gray tube does radiate some charge, it is received by 34. Then I think it may be OU in this link.
When radiant energy or charge is radiated from 12, it has nothing to do with 12. And when 34 receives radiant energy,
it has nothing to do with the potential of 34 itself. Just as placing a radio on the ground can receive radio broadcasts,
and putting a radio on a high-voltage wire can also receive radio broadcasts.
Radiation is completely different from induction,
and the amount of induced charge has a decisive relationship with the potential difference between 12,34.
Suppose that 12 of the Gray tube actually radiates out the charge and is received by 34 in a radiative manner rather than inductively.
Then no matter how high the potential of 34 itself, it does not affect the charge that 34 receives from 12.
Suppose 34 receives the charge q.
According to the capacitor formula: U=q/C
That is, the same amount of charge, the smaller the capacitance C, the higher the voltage U.
There is also a capacitor energy formula: W=0.5qU
That is, the same amount of charge, the higher the voltage U, the greater the energy W.
So the charge obtained by the Gray tube 34 is directly sent to 36, and there is no physical capacitor on the line,
only the stray capacitance of the line structure and the parasitic capacitance of the 36 inductor.
That is, the Gray tube is designed for the smallest capacitance to receive 12 radiation.
It is possible to get the highest possible voltage U.
If U is higher than a certain threshold, the OU effect will occur?
Gray Patent #4,661,747 does not seem to be used in Patent #3,890,548.
I look at Gray patent # 3,890,548 mainly to say that the capacitor discharges at high voltage, causing the motor to rotate.
But the conventional understanding is that the discharge time is very short, that is,
the current time flowing through the motor is very short, the rotor only rotates a little angle, the current is gone,
how to continue to rotate?
If you really give the motor current in a short time,
the motor is required to continue to rotate to the next magnetic pole without current.
There may be an option:
The stator core of the motor is made using the steel wire of the past steel wire recorder,
or the magnetic powder material of the recording tape.
The short pulse current reverse-magnetizes such a core material, just like the commutation of a DC motor brush and a commutator.
The electric motor can really rotate continuously under short pulses.
Of course, the coercive force of the material is greater than the magnetic field of the permanent magnet of the rotor.
Sound tapes seem to be easily magnetized?
It is hoped that a small pulse magnetization current can be used to achieve the OU effect.
The above is all conjecture, maybe all wrong. Thank you guys!
Panyuming
QuoteFor Gray Patent #4,661,747 Figure 2, it is said that when 12 and 32 high-voltage discharge produce a spark,
radiation is generated on 12, and radiant energy or cold electricity is received by 34.
It may be that the OU effect appears in this link.
I also don't know what radiant energy is, I don't know what cold electricity is.
I only know that in a vacuum tube, when the cathode is heated and attracted by the positive high voltage of the anode,
electrons run from the cathode to the anode in a vacuum. Electrons can be seen emitting a faint blue glow.
It's strange that many people including many experts don't know what Radiant Energy is when all they have to do is google it.
https://www.britannica.com/science/radiant-energy
QuoteRadiant energy, energy that is transferred by electromagnetic radiation, such as light, X-rays, gamma rays, and thermal radiation, which may be described in terms of either discrete packets of energy, called photons, or continuous electromagnetic waves.
It's easier to break it down, Radiant ergo to radiate or proceed from a source or center outward. Thus radiant energy means any energy which radiates outward from a source or center as waves or particles. However it's kind of a mute point unless we understand what energy is.
Cold Electricity is no different and we should break it down...
Cold- having a low temperature, Temperature-a measure of the average kinetic energy as oscillations of particles many call heat.
Electricity-the behavior of electrons and protons that is caused by the attraction of particles with opposite charges and the repulsion of particles with the same charge.
Put the terms together and we get Cold-Electricity, the motion of electron/protons with a low kinetic energy as oscillations. Simply put, we want to move some electrons in a linear motion but not let them start oscillating as heat. Heat is just a fancy term for jiggling particles which also tend to emit EM waves in the infrared and microwave spectrum. Simply put, were trying to move some particles like electrons/protons without making them jiggle.
The biggest problem I see concerning free energy including the Gray device relates to First Principals. First principles thinking is the act of boiling a process down to the fundamental parts that we know are true and building up from there. So we cannot generalize, lump things together, average them or look at them in a superficial sense. Basically, we start at the atomic or particle level and work our way up.
AC
onepower
Thank you so much!
panyuming
No problem, you got this your just having some issues with the level on which your trying to solve the problem and it's application.
Here is a trick I like to use. I have already solved a lot of these problems most are have concerning free energy concepts however we cannot become complacent and we always have to check and recheck our terms, concepts and facts thus perspective. So when you say radiation or induction I think I know what you mean but I always go through the motions to google the terminology anyways. Then I go through multiple links and compare the explanation of the term and connect the dots between them. In effect we cannot take anything for granted and under no circumstances can we ever stop learning.
Learning; Learning is the process of acquiring new understanding, knowledge, behaviors, skills, values, attitudes, and preferences. Key word "new".
We could think of it this way, free energy isn't impossible it's just the evolution of science and technology. It's like the concept of a cell phone, computer, solar cell or any number of things we know today deemed impossible 200 years ago. So we need to condition our mind to question everything and the premise it's based on relative to what we already know. We could ask, what was the logic and perspective which led to the development of the solar cell decades ago?. How could we expand on the same kind of thinking to move the technology beyond where it is today?.
Free energy is relatively easy however it's like asking a man 200 years ago how a solar cell works. Obviously a solar cell works so what aspect of understanding held them back so long ago?. It was knowledge, understanding and there perspective of how one could apply the concept.
Now I'm just rambling however I hope you can see the direction. Break the conductor down into the material, then the molecular, then down to the atomic/particle/field level. This is where we need to be however many cannot reconcile the magnitude of what is happening on such a small scale in three dimensions. So go as far as you can and when it becomes too much pull back until such time as you can understand it. However this is the level we need to be thinking about this technology whether we like it or not.
AC
Quote from: onepower on June 16, 2023, 08:02:23 PM
panyuming
No problem, you got this your just having some issues with the level on which your trying to solve the problem and it's application.
onepowerLearned!
Thank you so much!
:)
There may be an option:
The stator core of the motor is made using the steel wire of the past steel wire recorder,
or the magnetic powder material of the recording tape.
The short pulse current reverse-magnetizes such a core material, just like the commutation of a DC motor brush and a commutator.
The electric motor can really rotate continuously under short pulses.
Of course, the coercive force of the material is greater than the magnetic field of the permanent magnet of the rotor.
Sound tapes seem to be easily magnetized?
It is hoped that a small pulse magnetization current can be used to achieve the OU effect.
The above is all conjecture, maybe all wrong. Thank you guys!
Quote from: panyuming on June 18, 2023, 03:58:09 AM
:)
It is hoped that a small pulse magnetization current can be used to achieve the OU effect.
there's hope if nowhat current through the coil at all from supply power.
At least we not spend nothing energy. We just close short the right coils at the right time.
It does not require any energy consumption. But I don't tried it yet.
Quote from: kolbacict on June 18, 2023, 07:53:27 AM
But I don't tried it yet.
Thanks
Kolbacict for your reply.
I didn't experiment either, I just fantasized about it.
Those diagrams are exactly the same as standard motors.
The difference is that if tape magnetic powder or recording wire are used as the magnetic pole material.
The permanent magnet magnetizer I have seen, magnetizing the magnet,
requires a very large current, and it also takes nearly 1 second.
Recording wire, the audio frequency that can be recorded can reach at least 1kHz,
or the recording wire magnetization time is shorter than 1mS.
Video tapes or data disks have a magnetization time of less than 1uS.
Professionals who design tapes must know the characteristics of those magnetic powders.
Perhaps they also know how the characteristics of magnetic powder changed
when it was made into a block 100,000 times thicker than a magnetic tape.
If the required magnetization time of the bulk magnetic powder does not exceed 1mS,
it can be used in the motor.
The experiment of basic principles does not have to be made into the structure of the motor.
Make a magnetic powder block and place it in the coil.
Items to measure:
1. Magnetization time
2. Magnetized current
3. Coercivity
Oh, as usual, everyone suffered somewhere in the wrong place.
What radiation? What is "cold electricity"? 100,000 physicists have not blabbed for 100 years about this simple method of obtaining "cold electricity"?
Or are all scientists completely stupid? No!
Check out the original Edwin Gray videos. Of course, in the USA it is customary to theatricalize the announcement of an innovation. Since the Tesla lectures and before. Advertizing drives commerce. And as usual, these announcements have an incomplete connection with reality.
In the course of my long-standing experiments, I came to the conclusion that Edwin Gray's "cold electricity" is ordinary short pulses of high voltage and current.
Those that are formed in the primary winding of the Tesla transformer.
Ordinary electricity, not cold. Why does he call these impulses "cold electricity"?:
1. Does not give electric shock. Yes, under certain parameters of pulses, when they are bipolar and have a duration of several microseconds and a significant repetition rate, such pulses under certain conditions are almost not felt by the body. And you can even pass through yourself a current sufficient to glow an ordinary incandescent lamp. And even measure the current strength of such an impulse that has passed through the body, and be very surprised at the number of amperes.
There is confirmation of this on YouTube. In scientific articles you can find the parameters of the pulse duration at which electric shocks cease to be felt. This, of course, is dangerous and not harmless for long-term consequences.
2. Does not heat the conductor. Yes, it is really possible to pass 1000 amperes of several microseconds through a thin wire, and the wire will not melt. From an electrician's point of view, this is a miracle. "Cold electricity". But it is enough to calculate how much heat is released on the wiring in such a short time, and it becomes clear that there is not enough energy to melt the wire.
3. The light bulb glows underwater. Yes, ok. When the light bulb is powered by short bipolar pulses, water will not make a short circuit through an arc discharge. There will be no electrolysis either, it has been verified.
Now, after that, what do we have left? Without the mystical "Cold Electricity"?
Only the statement of Edwin Gray that his motor charges the battery faster than the discharged one.
Remember, there are two batteries in Gray's setup. Two powerful batteries.
When the motor is powered by one of them, the other is charged by pulses of "cold electricity" from the motor.
Then the charged battery is switched to power the motor, and the discharged battery is switched to charging.
This is where you need to look. Processes in lead acid batteries. Sponge lead, lead sulfate nanoparticles, hydrogen polarization.
In my old experiments, I noticed that when a short high-voltage multi-ampere pulse is applied to an ordinary battery, the reverse pulse from the battery is somewhat different from the same reverse pulse from the equivalent inductance. But then it did not reach practical implementation, since this difference is visually small and depends on the ability to quickly cut off the current of the excitation pulse. Realistically, probably the best source of excitation pulses would be a rotating spark gap, similar to those used for Tesla coils.
You also need a good digital oscilloscope with a high voltage divider to determine the difference in the pulses on the battery and the equivalent inductance.
They will probably match 90%.
I didn't have a good digital oscilloscope back then. But what was the effect?
Specifically, a fast 700 volt 200 amp surge current thyristor burned out when generating pulses to the battery, and did not burn out when generating pulses to an equivalent inductance. It was not possible to determine the exact cause at that time. Probably something related to the shape of the reverse pulse from the battery.
It was not possible to continue these experiments, because they needed a place, a higher voltage, different large batteries, a rotating spark gap as a source of impulses, instead of a thyristor. You need a workshop like Edwin Gray.
Who wants to do it and who has the right conditions can try.
Sergh
QuoteIn the course of my long-standing experiments, I came to the conclusion that Edwin Gray's "cold electricity" is ordinary short pulses of high voltage and current.
Those that are formed in the primary winding of the Tesla transformer.
Ordinary electricity, not cold. Why does he call these impulses "cold electricity"?:
It's basically grade school science anyone can understand.
When we use large currents of free electrons it produces an electron scattering effect in the conductor. When the electrons scatter they start oscillating/jiggling and produce heat. Heat is not something it is a measure of how fast the particles are jiggling. So to reduce heating and keep the conductor cool we want to raise the voltage and reduce the current.
From ChatGPT
QuoteWhen an electric current passes through a conductor, the electrons that carry the current collide with the atoms or ions of the conductor's material. These collisions result in the transfer of kinetic energy from the moving electrons to the atoms or ions, causing them to vibrate more vigorously. This increased vibration of the atoms or ions corresponds to an increase in the temperature of the conductor, which is essentially the manifestation of heat.
Hell anyone can understand this explanation. More electrons as a current produce more electron scattering/collisions and jiggling thus more heat. I'm not sure why so many people are spreading misinformation when they could simply google the question or ask ChatGPT.
So it seems pretty obvious Gray raised the voltage and reduced the current to limit heating effects so the conductors operated at a lower temperature, ergo cold electricity. It also begs the question why so many people continue to use low voltage/large currents which produce conductor heating and other losses. It's almost as if they have no idea what there doing...
AC
Not certainly in that way. Look at his equipment. Gray increased the voltage and decreased the current, but the average current.
The impulse current could be very large. What I see on his old videos is thousands of amps per pulse.
He probably discharges a capacitor with a capacity of several hundred microfarads with a voltage of 3 - 5 kilovolts into a coil with a small number of turns.
https://overunity.com/13850/i-need-help-to-get-this-ev-gray-type-system-to-work/msg578888/#msg578888
In my experiments, when I discharged capacitor 40 microfarad 1500 V with a pulsed thyristor onto a not too big coil of approximately 20 turns of thick wire, I was very surprised by the fact that the reaction force to a pulsed magnetic field is visually much greater for copper and aluminum, for diamagnets, than for iron .
That is, at high pulsed currents in the coil, the copper plate is tactilely and visually repelled more sharply and stronger than the steel plate is attracted.
That is from the book below.
Quote from: kolbacict on June 22, 2023, 06:07:15 AM
That is from the book below.Quote(translated) We set up direct experiments under conditions where electrons could gain (or give up) energy Wk . A positive potential of about +3.73 kV was applied to the tip of a thin conductor, the tip was located in the air, inside the cavity of the second electrode, the dimensions of which were many times greater than the diameter of the tip. The current flowing between the electrodes was recorded. And a new discovery: the characteristic current pulses of microdischarges in the circuit were observed only in the voltage range of 3730 +- 20 V, completely disappeared at higher or lower voltages. Quantum macroscopic resonance? Yes, the dependence of the frequency of current pulses (microdischarges on the tip) on voltages has the character of a typical resonant curve.
Avramenko presented the usual effect as something new:
https://youtu.be/ieEeFKrFBIg?t=213 (https://youtu.be/ieEeFKrFBIg?t=213)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDJpq8UIGo
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDJpq8UIGo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgqwqwW5ZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgqwqwW5ZE)
What will happen when you take a phase wire from the wall and connect to it 2 diodes as an EV-plug, and connected to the plug a coupled inductor such as an AC step-down xformer? ;D ::)
Quote from: alan on June 23, 2023, 07:59:18 AM
What will happen when you take a phase wire from the wall and connect to it 2 diodes as an EV-plug, and connected to the plug a coupled inductor such as an AC step-down xformer? ;D ::)
The is same case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bgUy6zA0ts
Avramenko rules out capacitive coupling, it uses potential and diodes as a charge pump, there is zero ohmic loss in the one wire while much more is converted after the plug, according to the theory.
Quote from: alan on June 23, 2023, 07:59:18 AM
What will happen when you take a phase wire from the wall and connect to it 2 diodes as an EV-plug, and connected to the plug a coupled inductor such as an AC step-down xformer? ;D ::)
I don't know.
p.s.This is not the Avramenko who invented the plug of two diodes, this is another Avramenko R.F.
Well, I don't know, at least there was a serious scientist, a real one, not a charlatan.like Petric and the same others.
I was impressed at the time.
з.ы. And more, an inert gas in the geiger counter, it seems, but here it is air or vacuum.
Is Paul.D.Coleman that who invented Colman's tube ?
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1124623/ (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1124623/)
And why theme about Zografos is keeping calm ?