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Any guesses from among the resident pundits as to what the deal is in article the linked below ?

EMP-proof technology delivering sustainability breakthroughs for food, water, nutrition and medicine
http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html


Regards...

Since he isn't saying what it _is_, it's rather hard to make any kind of analysis, except to say this:

If it sounds too good to be true.....

Well...he IS the 'Health Ranger' after all.

Regards...

I have read his old articles before and thought he was good as far as education and health advise is concerned. I dunno what this device he's talking about but I'd be interested to see what it is. I hope this isn't a sham. He'd lose my respect for certain.

Sorry, I could not get passed the first  few paragraphs of the author's ignorance. 

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 22, 2014, 11:18:42 PM
Any guesses from among the resident pundits as to what the deal is in article the linked below ?

EMP-proof technology delivering sustainability breakthroughs for food, water, nutrition and medicine

Learn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3JrV4Uh1F (http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3JrV4Uh1F)
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http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html


Regards...

Wndow sill planter.

I have my reservations because he has been recently spreading ebola fear porn.

Due to the status quo, if this is true he would be a dead man walking after making such an announcement.

Not on my trusted source list...but it would be great to see.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 23, 2014, 01:01:32 AM
I have my reservations because he has been recently spreading ebola fear .

Due to the status quo, if this is true he would be a dead man walking after making such an announcement.

Not on my trusted source list...but it would be great to see.

Regards...

Actually, the articles on ebola tend to come out with some info on it before big media does. Like it possibly being airborne, CDC said no at first. The last I heard from cdc it can be transmitted in air up to 3ft away. So NN hit that one on the head, ahead of all others. One of the latest NN articles said that drinking a gallon of water a day is helpful in survival of the illness.

Spreading ebola fear??  Are you not afraid? Do you think people in the highly infected towns in Africa should not be afraid? And the ridiculous idea from the cdc that travel bans could worsen ebola spread, is that not something to fear?  No fear? Like it cant spread?  Man, imagine if it does. Going to the grocery store could be a risk. Going to work. Going to the mailbox. This thing is no joke. 21 day incubation period, possibly longer. Read an article where a guy was 'cured', tests show negative, but could still infect someone by intercourse.

So yeah. we should all be afraid, and gain as much knowledge about it as possible in the mean time. Better than trying to cram on info when the thing is at every doorstep.

Did you know the US has a patent on ebola? ??? ???   And the FDA and CDC hammer on anyone that suggests a cure?  Big investments into ebola vaccine development, when they probably already have one and just looking to cash in on tragedy. Patent? Well it must be something they created, because you cannot patent anything that comes natural.  Like you can patent gold, or salt water, or life.  Well, not suppose to be able, yet Monsanto patents life all the time. Trying to even patent natural fruits, veggies, etc.



A few of their articles can be a bit paranoid, but mostly, I think they do a good service that not many others do.  NN is high on my daily list of sites to check out.

Mags

Ebola is a scary disease and that's the point. 


Problem. Solution. Reaction


When the people are paralyzed in fear, their minds are easily influenced. If I were a politician with many things to hide and bent on  total control, I'd probably resort to fear tactics to keep people from thinking straight and poking their noses in my shady business.

Eveeryone should keep in mind that a whistleblower outed the CDC for hiding the data which showed that their "vaccines" were responsible for causing autism, so their just discount and reverse everything they spew and you will be closer to the true reality of the situation.

Ebola as well as their "dreaded" H1N1 are not diseases, they are bioweapons to further their  depopulation agenda, and created in their labs to be and spread in areas of africa which they want cleared so that they can steal resources...which will not spread on its own.

Don't forget all the microbiologists (and potential whistleblowers) they wiped out in the Malaysian plane "crash" in preparation for the "ebola outbreak".

Remember the videos of them removing the "ebola victims" at the airport in hazmat suits as the passed by crew members without similar costumes ?

Their genetically modified version of the ebola virus was found to contain cold and flu DA...i suspect someone in their bioweapons lab sabotaged their attempts to get bit to spread naturally...which is why they suddenly and conveniently "came up" with a "vaccine" which they were unable to do for over a decade.

I am not saying Adams is involved in all this...i am hoping that he was just a useful dupe and that this device of his is the real deal.

For those reasons my position remains as previously stated.

Regards...

That's strange, because that claimed link has been discredited as has the bastard  Andrew Wakefield who came up with it out of commercial self-interest.  Wakefield has done immeasurable damage to the community by creating this discredited false link that as a result inspired many parents to put their children and the community at risk by evading MMR vaccinations for their children.

Ebola is a tragedy but its impact on population has been extremely slight.  Tuberculosis, and diarrhea are big killers in Africa.

Quote from: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 12:53:21 AM
Wndow sill planter.

Or maybe a water filter.

This Christmas every urban survivalist will want the Hanging Chia Prepper Garden.

CNC machines can only carve out wood plastic and alum...none of which are suitable for water use, so it must be something else.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 23, 2014, 12:29:55 PM
CNC machines can only carve out wood plastic and alum...none of which are suitable for water use, so it must be something else.

Regards...

It is news to me that wood, plastic, and aluminum are not suitable for water containers or passages.  It's also news to me that the only metal CNC tools can work on is aluminum. 

CNC machines can work on just about ANY material. I have been involved in all aspects of CNC since the mid 70s.

Quote from: memoryman on November 23, 2014, 02:04:34 PM
CNC machines can work on just about ANY material. I have been involved in all aspects of CNC since the mid 70s.

Ya think?  Long before they became NC and later CNC, mills and lathes have been used on virtually any solid material.  Cap-Z-Ro has got some funny ideas.

We used CNC machines for machining ceramic materials, much harder than any steel, and we used diamond tooling to do so.  This was back in the 80's so, I have no idea where Cap is getting info that he thinks is correct. Ceramics are 9+ on the Moh's scale of relative harness whereas steel is about 6.5 or maybe even 7 in some cases.  Diamond, of course, is 10.

Bill

Cap merely went by what Adams' article intimated linked below...

"The CNC router we've chosen for this project, by the way, has a 3 HP router capable of producing complex 3D shapes from blocks of plastic, wood or aluminum. CNC routers are the opposite of 3D printers: they remove material from blocks of wood or plastic, leaving behind the precise shape that you want. "

http://www.naturalnews.com/047756_Health_Ranger_3D_printing_invention_for_humanity.html

Unknot your shorts everyone.



Wood is too easily distorted by water, plastic and alum have undesirable properties that leech into water...some forum trolls have some pretty funny motivations.

Regards...

Not to mention: lasers, punch presses, plasma and waterjet cutters, welders etc.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 23, 2014, 03:28:13 PM
Cap merely went by what Adams' article intimated linked below...

"The CNC router we've chosen for this project, by the way, has a 3 HP router capable of producing complex 3D shapes from blocks of plastic, wood or aluminum. CNC routers are the opposite of 3D printers: they remove material from blocks of wood or plastic, leaving behind the precise shape that you want. "

http://www.naturalnews.com/047756_Health_Ranger_3D_printing_invention_for_humanity.html

Unknot your shorts everyone.



Wood is too easily distorted by water, plastic and alum have undesirable properties that leech into water...some forum trolls have some pretty funny motivations.

Regards...

Cap, wrong is wrong.  First you interpreted the affirmative statement by Adams of materials that he works with as an all inclusive statement of what any CNC gear can work on.  Amending your statement to say that Adams' equipment can't work on materials other than he mentioned is not supported by any fact.  Adams may choose not to work with harder metals for the simple reason that it takes longer to machine and wears bits faster.

As to materials for holding and transporting water, you are again wrong.  Hardwoods can and have been used for centuries for water passages and containers.  Wood resists bacterial growth.  Certain plastics leach unhealthy chemicals into water, others do not.  PET is safe by itself, but is not a hard plastic.  The problems with water bottles have been with hard plastics.  You can check with the Natural Resources Defense Council.  Aluminum in contact with water forms a layer of AlO3 that stops further interaction with the water.  Aluminum can leach when the water is either too salty or too acidic.  It would not be a first choice for acidic substances such as fruit juice.  But for water with a pH of 7-9, leach rates are negligible. 

And finally no matter what your opinion or someone else's may be of the suitability of a particular material for conveying or holding water, it is only Adams opinion that would influence what he might and might not use.

You take leave to call others trolls, but the statements not based on fact are coming from you.

|Again to clear up the intentional confusion...wood warps plastic leeches toxins(unless hemp based) and alum  is unhealthy.

The CNC issue is a belabored moot point of distraction.

To get back on the real topic...any guesses as to what Adams is up to ?

Regards...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4066726

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 25, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4066726 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4066726)

Here is a excerpt from that site...

"The polymer implants exhibited a mild tissue reaction..."

This type of "plastic" is likely the same as that used in hernia reinforcement...which turned toxic and had to be removed from those who survived the toxic shock manifestations.

This will be my last off topic response to master baiters here.

Moving forward.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 12:59:32 PM


Here is a excerpt from that site...

"The polymer implants exhibited a mild tissue reaction..."

This type of "plastic" is likely the same as that used in hernia reinforcement...which turned toxic and had to be removed from those who survived the toxic shock manifestations.

This will be my last off topic response to master baiters here.

Moving forward.

Regards...

Could you be any more disingenuous?  Let's see the complete quote that you chose to truncate:

QuoteThe polymer implants exhibited a mild tissue reaction with the same characteristics as the control. Local tumor formation, bone osteolysis, and surrounding muscle necrosis were not seen. No pathological changes compatible with systemic toxicity by Delrin 150 were observed in the study of the organs. Delrin 150 in solid form did not exhibit local or systemic toxicity and is therefore biocompatible by this study. Powder implantation studies should be performed to simulate tissue response to wear particles.

The control was 316 stainless steel. 

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 11:54:33 AM
|Again to clear up the intentional confusion...wood warps plastic leeches toxins(unless hemp based) and alum  is unhealthy.

The CNC issue is a belabored moot point of distraction.

To get back on the real topic...any guesses as to what Adams is up to ?

Regards...

You continue to make claims without support that have been refuted.

This is a relentless troll we have here...but then thats what he's paid for.

What the troll conveniently leaves out is that the "test" was conducted in 1985...it just takes a while before the plastic turned toxic.

Just as it took a few years before he turned toxic to humans.

Stainless steel is not used in the body either, they use titanium...perhaps the resident "expert" will explain why if you ask...but i highly doubt it.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 02:25:32 PM
This is a relentless troll we have here...but then thats what he's paid for.

You can provide no evidence for your false, lying assertion that anyone here is being "paid" for anything they post.

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What the troll conveniently leaves out is that the "test" was conducted in 1985...it just takes a while before the plastic turned toxic.

Go ahead, provide some reference for your assertion that implanted Delrin becomes toxic. You cannot.

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Just as it took a few years before he turned toxic to humans.

Stainless steel is not used in the body either, they use titanium...perhaps the resident "expert" will explain why if you ask...but i highly doubt it.

Regards...

There are lots of people running around with stainless steel implants. What I "highly doubt" is that you can provide any credible references for your assertions.
However I do not hesitate to provide references for mine.
http://orthopedics.about.com/od/hipkneereplacement/a/implants.htm (http://orthopedics.about.com/od/hipkneereplacement/a/implants.htm)

Quote from the linked "reference"...

" These are general statements about the different implants; if you have specific questions about a particular implant you must discuss this with your doctor! "

Additionally, plastics and cements used to secure the implants in place are considered a necessary evil...and nobody in their right mind would needlessly put them into the human body...well apparently a few airheads here would readily advise you to do so.

Implants happen to be included in my scope of practice, but hey, what do I know compared to the vast wide ranging knowledge displayed here on a daily basis by the google twins ?

End of my responses to the tag team troll brigade.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 02:25:32 PM
This is a relentless troll we have here...but then thats what he's paid for.

What the troll conveniently leaves out is that the "test" was conducted in 1985...it just takes a while before the plastic turned toxic.

Just as it took a few years before he turned toxic to humans.

Stainless steel is not used in the body either, they use titanium...perhaps the resident "expert" will explain why if you ask...but i highly doubt it.

Regards...

LOL, you're making a fast descent now Cap.  First you truncated a statement in such a way that gave an impression that is diametrically opposed to the authors' actual statement.  Now, with your overt distortion exposed, you switch to trying to discredit the reference you had just "quoted".  And to seal the deal you cast false charges against other posters claiming they are paid agents.  Naturally, you have no actual reliable evidence to support such allegations. 

If you wish to challenge the authors' choice of 316 SS as a valid control, then all you have to do is come up with some reliable study that shows that 316 SS is moderately or highly toxic.

More mindless drivel prefaced by the very telling 'LOL'.

May I please have another troll, these have past their 'best before' date ?

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from the linked "reference"...

" These are general statements about the different implants; if you have specific questions about a particular implant you must discuss this with your doctor! "

Additionally, plastics and cements used to secure the implants in place are considered a necessary evil...and nobody in their right mind would needlessly put them into the human body...well apparently a few airheads here would readily advise you to do so.

Implants happen to be included in my scope of practice, but hey, what do I know compared to the vast wide ranging knowledge displayed here on a daily basis by the google twins ?

End of my responses to the tag team troll brigade.

Regards...

LOL, now you're off in the bushes kvetching about bone cements, when the subject was whether or not all plastics are toxic.  It is well established that there are a number of PET plastics that show very low toxicity.

Are you claiming to be an MD?  If you are then you should be able to come up with your own references on the toxicity you ascribe to various materials.

And still more mindless drivel prefaced by the very telling 'LOL's'.

This time we have a retreat to "low toxicity".

Again I beseech, may I please have another troll, these have past their 'best before' date ?

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
And still more mindless drivel prefaced by the very telling 'LOL's'.

This time we have a retreat to "low toxicity".

Again I beseech, may I please have another troll, these have past their 'best before' date ?

Cap so is that a big no on you being an MD? Is that also a big no on you providing any reference to back your claims including the outrageous accusation that others here are paid posters?  Ridiculous behavior draws guffaws.

I guess that mean the troll forgot or is hoping the readers didn't notice that his plastic position has gone from real good for you to "low toxicity".

My avocation is simply his 'red herring' issue, tossed in to make you forget his cowardly retreat...IOW, he's flailing to treat water now.

As if I would give this creep personal information.

If you get close enough you may even hear him gasping for air...I wooden get too close tho, unless you like the smell of porta-potty air vents.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 07:02:32 PM
I guess that mean the troll forgot or is hoping the readers didn't notice that his plastic position has gone from real good for you to "low toxicity".

My avocation is simply his 'red herring' issue, tossed in to make you forget his cowardly retreat...IOW, he's flailing to treat water now.

As if I would give this creep personal information.

If you get close enough you may even hear him gasping for air...I wooden get too close tho, unless you like the smell of porta-potty air vents.

Regards...

LOL.  Cap, I see you're throwing out ad homs liberally as you continue to contradict yourself.  What I don't see is any factual evidence that supports your claims.

Google now available to ou.com members !

Now you too can google toxic impurities involved in the stainless steel process.

You may even get to have your own personal troll as I have...but you have to earnit.

Are you ready...start googling.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 25, 2014, 07:31:46 PM
Google now available to ou.com members !

Now you too can google toxic impurities involved in the stainless steel process.

You may even get to have your own personal troll as I have...but you have to earnit.

Are you ready...start googling.

Regards...

Still you pile on more ad homs.  Still you offer absolutely no references that support your discredited claims.

Where are all the support trolls offering up examples of how compatible stainless steel is with the human body...like there briefly was with that out dated 1985 sales pitch example of how 'good' plastic was for the human body ?

There's got be an old add from the 1960's extolling the virtues of stainless steel somewhere on the net...there's certainly lots of warnings posted about it.

A lot of readers are munching popcorn as they watch the equivalent of me dragging a blowhard troll down a dirt road.

Surely somebody will take pity on him and come to his rescue...oh, the humidity !

Regards...

Quote


I plan to spend a considerable portion of my time in 2015 - 2016 teaching people how to use this invention to improve their own lives and increase their self-reliance. Fundamentally, the system is incredibly simple to use, but there are so many applications and variations for it that people need to be shown all the different ways to benefit from it.

Accordingly, I'll be posting numerous online videos featuring instruction and inspiration for all the different ways to use the system. We also plan to donate a substantial number of these systems to people in need everywhere -- including in developing nations -- to help spread the word about the power of this technology for uplifting humanity.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3K9MoGsfh (http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3K9MoGsfh)

And this clue, to me, speaks volumes!

QuoteQuote
I will tell you, however, that creating this system would have been impossible without the ICP-MS laboratory I've been running for about a year now. The lab actually led me to this solution, and the solution itself is only possible to validate by using the elemental analysis instrumentation in the lab.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3K9N3S51q (http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3K9N3S51q)

Aha -- so again,

QuoteQuote
the solution itself is only possible to validate by using the elemental analysis instrumentation

ICP-MS in particular allows one to analyze for various elements, such as NICKEL and COPPER and Cs and Pr -- elements for which others have found TRANSMUTATION.  E-cat for example, appears to involve hydrogen + Nickel --> transforming via LENR to copper!  In the article, he states that he is building on the discovery made by others.What discovery can be validated only by using elemental analysis, in particular ICP-MS?  I think it has to be LENR reactions - which BTW, I have been studying for decades...  Maybe Mike Adams has a particularly easy way to build a LENR reactor, which produces heat by means of proton + metal fusion (which I and others have previously called "cold fusion" or "geo-fusion"). Quickly, my focus has been on proton + lithium, proton + boron, proton + nickel and proton + tungsten fusion (or, transmutation) reactions.  "The ICP-MS allows determination of elements with atomic mass ranges 7 to 250(Li to U), and sometimes higher."  Wiki.


I would not be surprised if Mike has found or further developed ways of achieving fusion of protons and metal ions on a table-top - hence, table-top geo-fusion is what I think he's talking about!  And I say, more power to him for his work.

My 2 cents.


--Steven Jones

  Foreseeing a question -- does Mike have working prototypes?

QuoteYou won't believe it works until you see it yourself. 
If you're asking why I don't reveal the exact nature of this invention right now, it's because it only makes sense if I show it to you with photos and videos. Describing it with words would only cause people to say, "That's impossible. That can't work." (Such beliefs explain why no one else has ever bothered to build these systems, by the way. If you believe they can't work from the outset, there's no reason to even try.)


Yet I have several of these systems up and running right now, functioning exactly as planned, producing exactly as they are supposed to produce, all while using zero electricity or fossil fuels of any kind.


I will tell you, however, that creating this system would have been impossible without the ICP-MS laboratory (http://labs.naturalnews.com/) I've been running for about a year now. The lab actually led me to this solution, and the solution itself is only possible to validate by using the elemental analysis instrumentation in the lab.

Learn more:[/size]http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3KBOOeiZ1 (http://www.naturalnews.com/047252_breakthrough_technology_health_ranger_self-reliance.html#ixzz3KBOOeiZ1)

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
Where are all the support trolls offering up examples of how compatible stainless steel is with the human body...like there briefly was with that out dated 1985 sales pitch example of how 'good' plastic was for the human body ?

There's got be an old add from the 1960's extolling the virtues of stainless steel somewhere on the net...there's certainly lots of warnings posted about it.

A lot of readers are munching popcorn as they watch the equivalent of me dragging a blowhard troll down a dirt road.

Surely somebody will take pity on him and come to his rescue...oh, the humidity !

Regards...

LOL, more ad homs no evidence.

*turns troll over on face and drags the other way*

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 11:25:40 AM
*turns troll over on face and drags the other way*

LOL.

Well folks, we're down to just a terse "LOL" now.

I know full well you'd much rather see me rag doll a troll than to rise to rancid troll bait...even though it wood've been easy to simply copy the link to the dangers of SS cookware that I send to the people whom I caution against its usage.

I will comment to Mr Jones on his theory when things die down a bit, or when something shiny catches the troll's eye...which ever comes first.

Regards...

Cap-Z-ro, Mark is not the one refusing to answer or attacking the person (argumentum ad hominem is the full Latin phrase).
Also, the use of proper English appears to be an issue with you.
Please refrain from calling posters 'trolls' or other demeaning names and stick to facts.

Thank you for being able to remember the correct spelling of my name...who wooda thunk it ?

In my defense, troll is a lot easier to spell that nitpicker.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 02:03:05 PM
Well folks, we're down to just a terse "LOL" now.

I know full well you'd much rather see me rag doll a troll than to rise to rancid troll bait...even though it wood've been easy to simply copy the link to the dangers of SS cookware that I send to the people whom I caution against its usage.

I will comment to Mr Jones on his theory when things die down a bit, or when something shiny catches the troll's eye...which ever comes first.

Regards...

That's more ad homs and still no evidence.

*deposits dragged out troll in basement of porta-potty*

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 26, 2014, 05:35:01 PM
*deposits dragged out troll in basement of porta-potty*

And that's still a big no for any evidence to support your claims.

Cap-n:

QuoteI will comment to Mr Jones on his theory when things die down a bit, or when something shiny catches the troll's eye...which ever comes first.

OK.  FYI my webpage is here:  http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/ (http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/)


A question I posed to Defkalion is recorded here (starting at 3m 41s):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lPnUt4cNzM


Note that Defkalion demonstrated what they consider is a proton + nickel LENR reactor during ICCF-18, which is where I posed my question.  The conference was held at the University of Missouri in July 2013.


-- Steve

Quote from hypocritical troll:

" There are different folks with different skill levels in different areas.  And everyone makes mistakes sooner or later. The question is:  Do they look for mistakes and correct them when found?  With respect to the Ainslie claims Aaron fared very badly.  It's OK that he made some big mistakes. The problem was that he fought and fought and fought reality as initially gently pointed out... "


Cap's reply:

" I have to agree..for instance, I tried to point out the dangerous properties involved in the process of making stainless steel, as it relates to the human body.

But do you think that numbskull would listen ?

Not on your life...instead he went on like a common internet troll.

http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new (http://www.overunity.com/15125/let-the-speculation-begin/new/topicseen/#new)


Words is chewy, and can be very hard to swallow.


Regards... "



Second quote from hypocritical troll:

" Now it's to be stalking as well?  This is just getting sad Cap. "



According to troll logic, there's no way i should have been looking at this thread.

Tell me, how could I pass by words rising to that level of hypocrisy ?

If I were to let that opportunity pass (low hanging fruit tho it may be) i would stand to lose the respect of my loyal readership.

If there's anything I dislike more than a troll. its a hypocritical troll.

I mean, with the internet literally polluted with information on the toxicity of stainless steel, how is it that this sanctimonious "expert on virtually EVERYTHING be totally unaware of its existence ?

He will be heretofore be dubbed the Stainless Steel Troll, and have this episode shoved in his face in all future incursions.

Thank you for your interest Steve.

I can see from your website that you are a clear thinking man...always refreshing to see.

Unfortunately my educational background is in the health related sciences, despite an early interest in physics and electronics...although I am slowly trying to catch up as time permits

With regard to Adams' 'ground breaking' invention, he noted a medical component...does that aspect fit within your theory as to what his invention might be ?


Regards...

Cap-n: 

QuoteWith regard to Adams' 'ground breaking' invention, he noted a medical component...does that aspect fit within your theory as to what his invention might be ?[/size]

I don't see how it would fit with table-top geo-fusion, but his statement that he used ICP-MS which he had used for his nutritional/medical studies would -- is that what you meant?  or could you point to that part of his article that you're asking about? (clarify, please)


  @all:  I assure you that what I call geo-fusion and others call LENR, p+X reactions, have serious evidence already in place, as discussed at ICCF-18, for example.  google ICCF-18...

Quote from: PhysicsProfessor on November 26, 2014, 11:39:25 PM
Cap-n: 

I don't see how it would fit with table-top geo-fusion, but his statement that he used ICP-MS which he had used for his nutritional/medical studies would -- is that what you meant?  or could you point to that part of his article that you're asking about? (clarify, please)


  @all:  I assure you that what I call geo-fusion and others call LENR, p+X reactions, have serious evidence already in place, as discussed at ICCF-18, for example.  google ICCF-18...

He stated his invention would provide people with water, nutritional, and medical independence.

Does your guess as to what it is also address those issues, is what I was wondering ?

Regards...

Cap-Z: 

QuoteHe stated his invention would provide people with water, nutritional, and medical independence.[/size]Does your guess as to what it is also address those issues, is what I was wondering ?

He also says that the invention (which builds on the discoveries of others) will not require fossil fuels nor wind nor solar input -- suggesting that he is indeed proposing a novel source of energy.  I explained why I think it might be geo-fusion (which arises because of nuclear reactions, releasing energy). 


Now further to your question, how could a novel energy device provide water?  Easy - with enough new energy, one could pump and purify water -- or even pull it from the air ("dehumidifier").  To health-ranger Mike, herbs and natural sources are key to health - and growing these requires energy for planting, harvesting and even illuminating (grow-lights, if one wishes to supplement the sunshine). 


Thus, a new, village (or home) based energy source can provide water, nutrition and "medical" (to him, natural health) independence.


And again, he states that his ICP-MS was crucial in identifying the underlying mechanism (isotope-changes or geo-fusion, IMO) of the novel energy source...

I related all those things to free energy in my mind also, but noticed that he did not mention free energy....maybe for his own personal safety.

if he has such a device, I certainly hope he has arranged for a number of people to release the info in case he is suicided, heart attacked, or cancered.

We certainly could all use a little freedom and independence.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 27, 2014, 11:14:38 AM
I related all those things to free energy in my mind also, but noticed that he did not mention free energy....maybe for his own personal safety.

if he has such a device, I certainly hope he has arranged for a number of people to release the info in case he is suicided, heart attacked, or cancered.

We certainly could all use a little freedom and independence.

Regards...

Good points.  Thanks - on Thanksgiving day here in the US.  Hopefully the violence will subside.


For the record, here is what Obama said on TV (re: Ferguson MO):

Quote"There is inevitably going to be some negative reaction and it will make for good TV," he said, exactly recognising what viewers were seeing at that moment.[

Cap
thanks for starting this very interesting topic..
@PhysicsProf
Its nice to see your perspective and also to read and view the obvious direction mainstream Science is headed with these types of claims.


very nice indeed


to those who celebrate have a happy thanks giving,


Chet K

Yes Steve, good TV if you happen to be a psychopath...those murderous scumbags just love the carnage.

Thanks Chet...its definitely the most interesting and promising topic posted here in a very long time.

Let us all hope Adams is on the level.

Regards...

Cap-N:

QuoteLet us all hope Adams is on the level.[/size]

For sure!  and that he discloses publicly for the benefit of humankind, like he says he will. Early in 2015.
Also - let's hope that his public disclosure is not blocked somehow, by tptb("the powers that be").

Quote from: MarkE on November 23, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
...
Wakefield has done immeasurable damage to the community by creating this discredited false link that as a result inspired many parents to put their children and the community at risk by evading MMR vaccinations for their children.
...

I'm going to have to align with Cap Z ro's
assessment in this matter.  The author of the
statement above has, in other more recent
postings, further elaborated upon his deeply
"inside the box" pro-establishment agenda.

Not that it makes the author "one of them" or
presumes that he shares in their Satanic beliefs,
but it does raise suspicions.  He's either a willing
participant in the deceptions or an unwitting dupe.

His own words to some extent do help to clarify
that question.

Yes, the discussion is quite interesting and at the
same time quite revealing.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on November 28, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
I'm going to have to align with Cap Z ro's
assessment in this matter.  The author of the
statement above has, in other more recent
postings, further elaborated upon his deeply
"inside the box" pro-establishment agenda.

Not that it makes the author "one of them" or
presumes that he shares in their Satanic beliefs,
but it does raise suspicions.  He's either a willing
participant in the deceptions or an unwitting dupe.

His own words to some extent do help to clarify
that question.

Yes, the discussion is quite interesting and at the
same time quite revealing.

I strongly suggest that for your benefit and the benefit of any children that are related to you that you look carefully into the issue and let facts be your guide.  Wakefield's deceptions were commercially motivated.  His claims have been completely discredited.  Childhood vaccinations have made a huge improvement in health.  They have prevented countless cases of disease and death.  This is no trivial matter.  Going the wrong way leads to a lot of suffering and death.

Quote from: MarkE
I strongly suggest that for your benefit and the benefit of any children that are related to you that you look carefully into the issue and let facts be your guide.  Wakefield's deceptions were commercially motivated.  His claims have been completely discredited.  Childhood vaccinations have made a huge improvement in health.  They have prevented countless cases of disease and death.  This is no trivial matter.  Going the wrong way leads to a lot of suffering and death.

Hmmm.  A very strong echo of the corporate
sales pitch advocating what is very profitable
indeed for the pharmaceutical industry as
well as their financially connected political
cronies.

Your suggestion is quite sound, however;
do indeed look carefully into the issue and
let the TRUTH be our guide in all things.

Eschew corporate propaganda in the process.

Vaccinations can be very, very deadly.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on November 28, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
Hmmm.  A very strong echo of the corporate
sales pitch advocating what is very profitable
indeed for the pharmaceutical industry as
well as their financially connected political
cronies.

Your suggestion is quite sound, however;
do indeed look carefully into the issue and
let the TRUTH be our guide in all things.

Eschew corporate propaganda in the process.

Vaccinations can be very, very deadly.

Sea Monkey vaccinations have proven to be a crucial element in public health.  Look into the harm caused by childhood diseases before development of the Polio and MMR vaccines.  If you are rightly upset by the sometimes obscene profits made by the pharmaceutical giants then take political action.  Do not impose death and suffering because you are upset with corporations.

SeaM, I'm sure you are aware that vaccines are a component of the 'Problem, Reaction, Solution' psy-op that has been used against the masses for many decades for depopulation purposes.

They create the disease, use the media to engender fear in the populace...then they "magically" present the "solution, as in the "Final Solution" in the form of the disease laden vaccine.

The fact that they continually include the neuro toxin mercury in their "vaccines" is a telling factor.

This was recently driven home by the CDC whistleblower who revealed that they hid the data showing that their so called vaccines were the causal factor in the autism epidemic...just as sure as their chemical food additives are behind the cancer epidemic.

Two words, by they way, that you will never see in the same sentence in the media propaganda.

Regards...

Quote from: MarkE
...
If you are rightly upset by the sometimes obscene profits made by the pharmaceutical giants then take political action.  Do not impose death and suffering because you are upset with corporations.

Far be it from me to "impose" death and
suffering.  Gadzooks, the numerous
corporations are doing just that by taking
advantage of the gullibility of what today
passes for 'human beings.' :(

Let our various choices and actions be
predicated upon Love for our Neighbor
and Love of Truth. :)

Consider this:  Without multitudes of
unhealthy people the so-called "Health
Care Industry" would collapse. ???

Corporations can be counted upon to do
what is best for their 'bottom line.'  How
their schemes operate to the detriment of
The People bothers them not. ::)

Political Action in the present U.S. of A. is
tantamount to pissing upwind.  Corporate
Money has bought and paid for those who
claim to be 'Representatives of The People.' :P

Yes, we're living in that terrible time foretold
long ago in The Book.  Those who are ruining
the Earth with their Love of Money have but a
short time to finish their 'business.' 8)

What is coming will not be pretty. :(

Mark E
surely you have seen the whistleblowers report?

?
or has Autism not touched your life enuff for you to take a good hard Look ?

it most certainly has touched My life ,and  one in eighty young lives Born everyday
I've watched TOO MANY young boys go from Normal healthy young Kids into
Autistic Statistics after Vaccines.

THIS NEED MORE EYES THAN THOSE WITH FINANCIAL AGENDAS !!


AS USUAL
Mark E runs off to study, so he can return as  the consummate Expert on yet another topic.

Why the majority have difficulty seeing things
as they truly are. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pGbEJ3pXwWM)

Quote from: SeaMonkey on November 28, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Why the majority have difficulty seeing things
as they truly are. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pGbEJ3pXwWM)

Excellent video.  Oddly enough, I had not seen it before.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 28, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
SeaM, I'm sure you are aware that vaccines are a component of the 'Problem, Reaction, Solution' psy-op that has been used against the masses for many decades for depopulation purposes.

They create the disease, use the media to engender fear in the populace...then they "magically" present the "solution, as in the "Final Solution" in the form of the disease laden vaccine.

The fact that they continually include the neuro toxin mercury in their "vaccines" is a telling factor.

This was recently driven home by the CDC whistleblower who revealed that they hid the data showing that their so called vaccines were the causal factor in the autism epidemic...just as sure as their chemical food additives are behind the cancer epidemic.

Two words, by they way, that you will never see in the same sentence in the media propaganda.

Regards...

So, your hypothesis is that MMR is a method being used to reduce population.  So surely, you can at a minimum correlate a fast rise in childhood deaths to the introduction of the MMR vaccine?  Except that you cannot.  The facts are quite the opposite of your stated position once again.

Quote from: ramset on November 28, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
Mark E
surely you have seen the whistleblowers report?

?
or has Autism not touched your life enuff for you to take a good hard Look ?

it most certainly has touched My life ,and  one in eighty young lives Born everyday
I've watched TOO MANY young boys go from Normal healthy young Kids into
Autistic Statistics after Vaccines.

THIS NEED MORE EYES THAN THOSE WITH FINANCIAL AGENDAS !!


AS USUAL
Mark E runs off to study, so he can return as  the consummate Expert on yet another topic.

Chet, polio, measles and mumps were all common and often devastating prior to the introduction of the respective vaccines.  Wakefield cooked up his data and has been fully repudiated.

OHH
I'm sorry Mark E I thought YOU were talking about the totally natural Autism EPIDEMIC , vaccines and MONEY.


http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/09/cdc-whistleblower-calls-on-congress-to-intervene-in-autism-vaccine-research.html (http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/09/cdc-whistleblower-calls-on-congress-to-intervene-in-autism-vaccine-research.html)


EDIT Addendum
see Mark E's reply below after you visit the web site
Mark E is a scoundrel the likes of which make  GDS look like a saint...[if self righteous Mark E is to be believed]

Quote from: ramset on November 29, 2014, 07:06:03 AM
OHH
I'm sorry Mark E I thought YOU were talking about the totally natural Autism EPIDEMIC , vaccines and MONEY.


http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/09/cdc-whistleblower-calls-on-congress-to-intervene-in-autism-vaccine-research.html (http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/09/cdc-whistleblower-calls-on-congress-to-intervene-in-autism-vaccine-research.html)

Chet, in that audio he is advocating performing research on autism.  In that clip, he claims that his boss wants him to lie, but does not specify the lie he says his boss wants him to tell.

Quote from: MarkE on November 29, 2014, 06:24:13 AM
So, your hypothesis is that MMR is a method being used to reduce population.  So surely, you can at a minimum correlate a fast rise in childhood deaths to the introduction of the MMR vaccine?  Except that you cannot.  The facts are quite the opposite of your stated position once again.

To further a point earlier made.

The stainless steel troll is clearly a cabal paid shill or has the worlds worst case of 'right fighting'...I strongly suspect its the former.

His M.O. is very clear and commonly familiar.


Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 08:12:38 AM


To further a point earlier made.

The stainless steel troll is clearly a cabal paid shill or has the worlds worst case of 'right fighting'...I strongly suspect its the former.

His M.O. is very clear and commonly familiar.


Regards...

More ad homs, and again no evidence.

Ladieeeees and gentleeemennn, presenting the 'TEFLON TROOOOOOLL'.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 08:27:53 AM
Ladieeeees and gentleeemennn, presenting the 'TEFLON TROOOOOOLL'.

Regards...

Cap, perhaps you would do better advancing your claims if you offered factual evidence to support them.

I'm particularly fond of the part where the teflon troll says...

"Chet, polio, measles and mumps were all common and often devastating prior to the introduction of the respective vaccines. "


Well of course silly, if the vaccines came before the disease then it wooden be 'problem reaction solution' then wood it ?

That psy-op was laid bare back in the H1N1 psy-op days when some busybody went and dug up the patent for the vaccine (solution) showing that they created the vaccine 3 or 4 years prior to the "outbeak".

Now that was good comedy.

Yeah, them was the good ol' daze.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 12:08:54 PM
I'm particularly fond of the part where the teflon troll says...

"Chet, polio, measles and mumps were all common and often devastating prior to the introduction of the respective vaccines. "


Well of course silly, if the vaccines came before the disease then it wooden be 'problem reaction solution' then wood it ?

That psy-op was laid bare back in the H1N1 psy-op days when some busybody went and dug up the patent for the vaccine (solution) showing that they created the vaccine 3 or 4 years prior to the "outbeak".

Now that was good comedy.

Yeah, them was the good ol' daze.

Regards...

Cap:  Polio, measles, mumps, and Rubella are centuries old scourges.  The suggestion that they were manufactured or unleashed in order to create a market for vaccines is completely absurd.

Everyone...feel free to google story's on "scientists" (the cabal) digging up long dormant viruses in Siberia and Alaska.

Now why would they do that do you 'spose...I guess they were just bored huh ?

No...they replicate them, to put in their mercury laden "vaccines", to further their depopulation agenda...google that while you're about it folks.

The cabal and their paid trolls are losing their war on humanity.

More and more people are waking up and their satanic ritual abuse and murderous and pedofile ways are being exposed like never before.

Regards...

Quote from: MarkE on November 29, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Cap:  Polio, measles, mumps, and Rubella are centuries old scourges.  The suggestion that they were manufactured or unleashed in order to create a market for vaccines is completely absurd.

Of course it is.  There is a word for it: Paranoia.  But, good luck, you will never convince a delusional person that he is delusional.  He will always respond that it is you, that is delusional and paranoid.  Watch and see what happens.

Bill

Patience is something in short supply these days evidently.

Knee jerk Bill should have waited from me to respond before making himself out to be a naive and stupid idiot at best and among the above miscreants noted above.

Regards...

Cap-Z-ro: Would it be possible for you to stop the personal name calling? Or are you getting too much self satisfaction out of that? Substitute for masturbation for you?

Quote from: memoryman on November 29, 2014, 05:50:08 PM
Cap-Z-ro: Would it be possible for you to stop the personal name calling? Or are you getting too much self satisfaction out of that? Substitute for masturbation for you?

For some reason a limp strand of slimy spaghetti comes to mind.

"For some reason a limp strand of slimy spaghetti comes to mind." maybe that is the problem with you: you desperately want a normal penis but all you have is a limp strand of slimy spaghetti. Don't despair, somebody can still love you; spaghetti and meatballs is a popular dish.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 05:42:38 PM
Patience is something in short supply these days evidently.

Knee jerk Bill should have waited from me to respond before making himself out to be a naive and stupid idiot at best and among the above miscreants noted above.

Regards...

Thanks for proving my prediction 100% correct Sir.  I know that you didn't do this on purpose, you could not help yourself and, I understand that.  But, I thank you just the same.

Man, did I call that one or what?  These people are so predictable.

Bill

Bizarro quote:

" ...you desperately want a normal..."


How can i possibly respond to someone who cannot form a coherent thought or sentence...other than ridicule him in metaphor ?

At least this latest piece of hamburger passing through my meathead grinder has an excuse...he hasn't been around here long enough to know that I never take or defend a position unless I am on rock solid ground.

Notice how he's wary enough not to express an opinion...he just yaps and nips at my heels like little pup.

Regards...

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 29, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Thanks for proving my prediction 100% correct Sir.  I know that you didn't do this on purpose, you could not help yourself and, I understand that.  But, I thank you just the same.

Man, did I call that one or what?  These people are so predictable.

Bill

A classic example of an empty vessel trying to seem relevant.

Anybody can and probably has taken the 2 seconds it takes to google what I stated...which is why every troll here is not on my back.

But nooo, the stoopid oblivious pirate just plods on, drunk on his own urine...hey, maybe he found overunity in that strategy...who knew ?

This bozo was actually calling Joel an idiot on another thread when he got tired of trying to best Joel on his own turf...so I guess he thought he won and was ready to take me on.

He can stand with the filth that infects this planet if he likes though...its a free country...check that - it was.

Next troll or bozo.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 06:54:09 PM


A classic example of an empty vessel trying to seem relevant.

Anybody can and probably has taken the 2 seconds it takes to google what I stated...which is why every troll here is not on my back.

But nooo, the stoopid oblivious pirate just plods on, drunk on his own urine...hey, maybe he found overunity in that strategy...who knew ?

This bozo was actually calling Joel an idiot on another thread when he got tired of trying to best Joel on his own turf...so I guess he thought he won and was ready to take me on.

He can stand with the filth that infects this planet if he likes though...its a free country...check that - it was.

Next troll or bozo.

Regards...

Once again, you have proved me 100% correct.  Again, I thank you.  By the way, does your Mother know you type like this to folks you do not know?  I mean, come on, it seems since you have no facts behind you, all you can do is to try to insult folks personally...which, I might point out, is not possible as you do not know anyone on here.

But, don't mind me, just keep going and continue to show everyone what type of person you are.  I am pretty sure that most folks have a pretty good idea by now but...you might want to continue just in case some do not get it yet.

Bill

(I predict that he will attempt yet another weak come back using personal insults pretending that he actually knows me, or anyone else on here that he attacks.  I also predict that the word "Troll" will be employed yet again.  It is, after all, his fallback position.)

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 06:54:09 PM


This bozo was actually calling Joel an idiot on another thread when he got tired of trying to best Joel on his own turf...

A 1st grader could best Joel responding to his totally unscientific, unfounded, and baseless claims.  But, thanks anyway.

Bill

Another quotable quote:

" A 1st grader could best Joel responding to his totally unscientific, unfounded, and baseless claims.  But, thanks anyway.

Bill "



Well, lest get one of the little tykes on here shall we...its obvious the kindergarten crowd can't best him.


Regards...

Another asinine bozo quote:

"...you do not know anyone on here."



I do believe Tech Stuff could back me up on this one...as this bozo likely doesn't read much.

"you shall know them by their fruits"

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 07:36:26 PM
Another asinine bozo quote:

"...you do not know anyone on here."



I do believe Tech Stuff could back me up on this one...as this bozo likely doesn't read much.

"you shall know them by their fruits"

Regards...

Fruits?  I fail to see what your sexual orientation has to do with the topic at hand.  I mean, whatever you do in your personal life is your own business and I see no need to share that here.  Also, what is up with your fixation on clowns?  Between clowns, trolls, and fruits, you appear to have your hands full.  (No pun intended as far as you know)

Bill

Guffaws...you may ask yourself,(Same as it Ever Was), how " you shall know them by their fruits" can, in the mind of an ass clown (did not intend to downgrade his buffoon status in previous post) magically become..." I fail to see what your sexual orientation has to do with the topic at hand. "

Simply brilliant segway(major emphasis in the simply)./  This witt (halfthat is) oughtta be a comedy writer.

And how Freudian is it that a failed private dick is fixated with phallic references ?

Keep 'em coming, I'm at my best with a doobie in me.

Unlike our erstwhile resident butt private, who likely has an assortment of other things in him.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 29, 2014, 05:31:31 PM
Everyone...feel free to google story's on "scientists" (the cabal) digging up long dormant viruses in Siberia and Alaska.

Now why would they do that do you 'spose...I guess they were just bored huh ?

No...they replicate them, to put in their mercury laden "vaccines", to further their depopulation agenda...google that while you're about it folks.

The cabal and their paid trolls are losing their war on humanity.

More and more people are waking up and their satanic ritual abuse and murderous and pedofile ways are being exposed like never before.

Regards...

Again, you cannot show the depopulation result from the cause you assert.  You cannot show that polio, or measles, or mumps, or Rubella were diseases that suddenly appeared or suddenly grew  preceding the development of vaccines.  You make one assertion after another that are each refuted by easily verified facts.

Quote from: MarkE on November 29, 2014, 11:32:37 PM
Again, you cannot show the depopulation result from the cause you assert.  You cannot show that polio, or measles, or mumps, or Rubella were diseases that suddenly appeared or suddenly grew  preceding the development of vaccines.  You make one assertion after another that are each refuted by easily verified facts.

Mark:

They did the same thing with Ebola.  They made this disease so they could sell the vaccines to cure it.  Oh wait...there is no vaccine for Ebola.

Never mind.

Bill

WEEeeeel now...it wood appear what we have here whats called (in technical terms) a bifilar circle jerk...and 2 sure short circuits.

Is there a third still available, to make it a trifilar ?

Wonder which one is the katcher, or do they switch off...and if so, at what frequency. ?

And which has more capacity to carry the load ?

I wood think there wood be a fair amount of heat and some vibration.

Safe to say there is no resistance and lots of inductance.

Hope there's no choke either...ugh !

This brings a whole new meaning to popping a cap up someone's ass.

As usual, there may be some hidden components or wires. 

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 12:35:26 AM
WEEeeeel now...it wood appear what we have here whats called (in technical terms) a bifilar circle jerk...and 2 sure short circuits.

Is there a third still available, to make it a trifilar ?

Wonder which one is the katcher, or do they switch off...and if so, at what frequency. ?

And which has more capacity to carry the load ?

I wood think there wood be a fair amount of heat and some vibration.

Safe to say there is no resistance and lots of inductance.

Hope there's no choke either...ugh !

This brings a whole new meaning to popping a cap up someone's ass.

As usual, there may be some hidden components or wires. 

Regards...

Wow Cap.  I have to say that your gayness is showing more and more in each and every post since you came (as it were) out of the closet a few posts back.  I mean just look at your latest post here man.  As I said before, what you do is your own business but please do not try to foist it upon the rest of us here.  Your post is just full of gay references which have nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Everyone reading your post can see what I mean.  (I have preserved it here by quoting you so when you edit it, it will still be here.)

Good God man, keep this in your own bedroom and please try to stay on topic here.

Thank you,

Bill

HI-larious...the butt pirate must have taken an online crash troll course.

Only a troll wood make homophobic comment, and then accuse his adversary of making gay references when his face is rubbed in it.

The thinking must be that people won't bother to can scroll back and see what  a liar and a moron he is.

I guess if you're stupid enough to get one foot in your mouth, you're also stupid enough to try to get it out by putting the other one in, there...hoping one will somehow free the other.

Man this is getting to be a good comedy piece....I may copy it myself.

The end result of not having the imagination to counter the rag dolling he's getting.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 01:09:09 AM
HI-larious...the butt pirate must have taken an online crash troll course.

Only a troll wood make homophobic comment, and then accuse his adversary of making gay references when his face is rubbed in it.

The thinking must be that people won't bother to can scroll back and see what  a liar and a moron he is.

I guess if you're stupid enough to get one foot in your mouth, you're also stupid enough to try to get it out by putting the other one in, there...hoping one will somehow free the other.

Man this is getting to be a good comedy piece....I may copy it myself.

The end result of not having the imagination to counter the rag dolling he's getting.

Regards...

Was that some sort of retort?  Well, OK, if that's the best you can do then....I understand.

Bill

PS  I do believe that your term "Butt Pirate"  is yet another gay reference of some kind.  I suppose you can't help yourself.

Well folks...after about five or six, shooting fish in a barrel does become redundant.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 01:22:06 AM
Well folks...after about five or six, shooting fish in a barrel does become redundant.

Regards...

Yes, it probably does.  Once you accomplish this, let all of us know.  We will be waiting.

Bill

'Its not me it you' gets really boring for me and the readers.

Guess Marks work is done, he lit a bag of sh!t in the thread, and left it here burning.

Can I please have another troll...one with half a brain.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
'Its not me it you' gets really boring for me and the readers.

Guess Marks work is done, he lit a bag of sh!t in the thread, and left it here burning.

Can I please have another troll...one with half a brain.

Regards...

Again with the "Trolls".  What is this fixation that you have?  This might be serious.

Bill

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 12:35:26 AM
WEEeeeel now...it wood appear what we have here whats called (in technical terms) a bifilar circle jerk...and 2 sure short circuits.

Is there a third still available, to make it a trifilar ?

Wonder which one is the katcher, or do they switch off...and if so, at what frequency. ?

And which has more capacity to carry the load ?

I wood think there wood be a fair amount of heat and some vibration.

Safe to say there is no resistance and lots of inductance.

Hope there's no choke either...ugh !

This brings a whole new meaning to popping a cap up someone's ass.

As usual, there may be some hidden components or wires. 

Regards...

Its' still the same:  You lob more ad homs and still offer no substance to support your refuted claims.

One drunk troll finally passed out and the half of the circle jerk arises in hopes of relighting the bag of troll guana he set afire and dropped off at the door of the thread.

Another bag of steaming hot sh!t to light the path for the other incoherent troll when he awakes from his stupor.

I just read this thread.  All the old cliches are out in full force.  How are those underground bunkers coming along boys?  Don't let the Industrial-Medical Complex kill you!

I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin'
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin'
I saw a white ladder all covered with water
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
I heard the sound of a thunder that roared out a warnin'
I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin'
I heard ten thousand whisperin' and nobody listenin'
I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin'
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley

I bet you the thing is a QEG inside a big silver box for EMP protection.

Trolling is as trolling does.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 30, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Trolling is as trolling does.

Well now there is something that we actually agree on.  Mark the date.

In this case, trolling is as the teflon troll does.

This just in...


Flu vaccine kills 13 in Italy; death toll rises

The incident in Italy is a tragic mistake and should be investigated fully.  If there was any negligence or wrongdoing then the responsible people should be held accountable.  That includes losing licenses and going to prison.

If you are going to research heath and nutrition, by all means go to many web sites and don't get all your information from naturalnews.com.  Not surprisingly, they take up the torch for mercury in vaccines.

QuoteNatural News Forensic Food Labs found flu shots containing 25,000 times the mercury concentration allowed in drinking water by the EPA.

It took me 10 minutes to learn why there is mercury in vaccines.  It's used as a preservative to prevent the possible growth of dangerous bacteria or fungi.  The comparison to drinking water is a false whackadoo comparison.

QuoteIn January 1928, in the early stages of an immunization campaign against diphtheria, Dr. Ewing George Thomson, Medical Officer of Health of Bundaberg, began the injection of children with toxin-antitoxin mixture. The material was taken from an India-rubber-capped bottle containing 10 mL of TAM. On the 17th, 20th, 21, and 24th January, Dr. Thomson injected subcutaneously a total of 21 children without ill effect. On the 27th a further 21 children were injected.Of these children .eleven died on the 28th and one on the 29th. (Wilson 1967)

The consideration of all possible evidence concerning the deaths at Bundeberg points to the injection of living staphylococci as the cause of the fatalities.

From this experience, the Royal Commission recommended that biological products in which the growth of a pathogenic organism is possible should not be issued in containers for repeated use unless there is a sufficient concentration of antiseptic (preservative) to inhibit bacterial growth.

Life is a learning experience and all that jazz.

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 01:50:11 AM
This just in...


Flu vaccine kills 13 in Italy; death toll rises

Learn more:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047841_flu_vaccine_death_toll_Italy.html#ixzz3KctbCRrF (http://www.naturalnews.com/047841_flu_vaccine_death_toll_Italy.html#ixzz3KctbCRrF)



Regards...


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This in from three days ago:  The suspect bad Novartis vaccine has been pulled in Italy.  If the hypothesis that vaccines are part of a plot to shrink the population were correct, then we should expect that a vaccine that is a suspected killer would be rapidly proliferated rather than pulled.

Quote from: MileHigh on December 01, 2014, 02:29:43 AM
The incident in Italy is a tragic mistake and should be investigated fully.  If there was any negligence or wrongdoing then the responsible people should be held accountable.  That includes losing licenses and going to prison.

If you are going to research heath and nutrition, by all means go to many web sites and don't get all your information from naturalnews.com.  Not surprisingly, they take up the torch for mercury in vaccines.

It took me 10 minutes to learn why there is mercury in vaccines.  It's used as a preservative to prevent the possible growth of dangerous bacteria or fungi.  The comparison to drinking water is a false whackadoo comparison.

Life is a learning experience and all that jazz.

I'll add to your post that staph is a huge problem and represents a major risk to hospital patients as anti-biotic resistant staph has developed over the years.

Antiseptics play a critical role in treating wounds and incision sites to prevent bacterial infection.  The concentrations of alcohol, iodine, hydrogen peroxide or even ozonated water used as topical antiseptics are thousands of times higher than allowed in drinking water.    It would take a real nut case to advocate against topical antiseptics because if ingested they are quite toxic.

We'll hide the fact that these "vaccines" cause autism, and this neuro toxin called mercury that incapacitates your brain to the point where you still believe all our lies that it is necessary to preserve all the "goodness" in the dose.

So, just ignore all the deaths and autistic kids and take your "medicine".

Suuurrrrre...

This article could have reported thousands of deaths due to "vaccines" and these shills would try to rationalize or dismiss the evidence...just as they are now doing with the autism evidence they tried to conceal.

And then they harp on the fact that I don't "present" them links the evidence thats plastered all over the net.

When the money talks and the bullsh!t walks.

Regards...

Mercury has a potent toxicity.  Mercury exists in the environment.  And unfortunately more of the stuff is pumped into the environment by coal fired power plants every day.  It is also present in all fluorescent lights, older thermometers, and insanely in some gimmicked kids shoes.  Since environmental mercury is not attributable to mass deaths or widespread autism we know that some amount of mercury is tolerated by at least most of the population without those dire results.  Ergo no matter how harmful exposure to large amounts of mercury is, (and it is very harmful) one cannot logically conclude that any non-zero amount of mercury causes dire harm.

Even water, fundamentally necessary to sustain life has a toxicity.  Witness the poor mother in Sacramento California a few years back who died as a result of drinking too much water during a contest to win a Nintendo Wii for her kids.

Forget that we are spraying you with neuro toxins and cancer causing toxins...forget that we put it in your water also...and additionally forget that we inject it into your body too.

Forget the toxic compounds we put into our genetically modified "food", that also sterilize you.

And ignore the fact that we hid the dead ending results of all these toxins we're peppering you with daily...and ignore the fact we hid all the data showing that we are out to kill, sterilize, and eliminate your worthless asses.

Coincidentally, I just heard a TV add for flu shots...and they warned against it if your immune system was "low"...because its will supress your immune system, thats why.

Yeah, just listen to these paid pieces of shit on here who are paid to tell you otherwise.

Scumbags and war whores...thats what they are !

Because there is an undeclared being waged against humanity, and more people are becoming aware of it by the day.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 01:41:38 PM
Forget that we are spraying you with neuro toxins and cancer causing toxins...forget that we put it in your water also...and additionally forget that we inject it into your body too.

Forget the toxic compounds we put into our genetically modified "food", that also sterilize you.

And ignore the fact that we hid the dead ending results of all these toxins we're peppering you with daily...and ignore the fact we hid all the data showing that we are out to kill, sterilize, and eliminate your worthless asses.

Coincidentally, I just heard a TV add for flu shots...and they warned against it if your immune system was "low"...because its will supress your immune system, thats why.

Yeah, just listen to these paid pieces of shit on here who are paid to tell you otherwise.

Scumbags and war whores...thats what they are !

Because there is an undeclared being waged against humanity, and more people are becoming aware of it by the day.

Regards...

Yikes.  You have got to be one of the creepiest people on this web site.  Clearly you have some issues.

"paid pieces of shit on here"

Now who would that be, Captain Zero? You cannot support your insane allegations with facts or any evidence whatsoever.

The only person on this forum that I know of who is "paid" to be here is Stefan our good host, paid by the ads he carries, and that is totally fair. Are you calling him a p.o.s.?

I am calling you a TROLL, the worst of the worst.

Quote from: MileHigh on December 01, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Yikes.  You have got to be one of the creepiest people on this web site.  Clearly you have some issues.

I mean, who else but a paid shill would ever advocate injecting known life destroying toxins into the blood stream ?

When you have been outed as a piece of sh!t, the only avenue left open is to lash out with weak insults.

While I do have my "issues" like everyone else, advocating the injection of known life destroying toxins into the blood stream doesn't happen to be among them.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 07:31:33 PM


I mean, who else but a paid shill would ever advocate injecting known life destroying toxins into the blood stream ?

Where have you established that anyone has done as you claim? Most anything that is injected or even ingested for that matter has a lethal toxicity at sufficient quantities.  So kindly point to where anyone here has advocated injection of lethal or even dangerous quantities of any substance.

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When you have been outed as a piece of sh!t, the only avenue left open is to lash out with weak insults.

The trouble is that you simply declaring your subjective judgments does not make those judgments correct or even close.  You have yet to establish what you assert as the basis for what you conclude.

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While I do have my "issues" like everyone else, advocating the injection of known life destroying toxins into the blood stream doesn't happen to be among them.

Do you oppose the injection of any medications knowing that in sufficient quantities they can do long term harm or even cause death?  For example do you oppose post operative morphine or toradol?  Do you oppose antibiotic injections including PIC lines?  How are you on oral medications?  Are you opposed to NSAIDs knowing that in particular acetaminophen overdose can cause permanent liver damage or even death?

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Regards...

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 01, 2014, 05:30:54 PM
"paid pieces of shit on here"

Now who would that be, Captain Zero? You cannot support your insane allegations with facts or any evidence whatsoever.

Looks like I hit a guilty conscience.



[quote The only person on this forum that I know of who is "paid" to be here is Stefan our good host, paid by the ads he carries, and that is totally fair. Are you calling him a p.o.s.?


And of course we have here the quintessential troll tactic...dragging someone else in, implying that person was included in his imaginary sweeping generalization.

I have alluded to the paid shills and trolls employed by the murderous pedophiles injecting poisons into helpless and hapless victims and ritually abusing and murdering others.

Who, of the above is he defending ?

Obviously he was offended...or paid to be offended with something I said.



[quote I am calling you a TROLL, the worst of the
worst.



High praise, coming from the likes of from Tinsh!t Shinola.


Regards...

Quote from: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Where have you established that anyone has done as you claim?

Seems they did that themselves...all they needed was a little prompting.

QuoteMost anything that is injected or even ingested for that matter has a lethal toxicity at sufficient quantities.  So kindly point to where anyone here has advocated injection of lethal or even dangerous quantities of any substance.

Must've forgot his defense of the MMR "vacccine"...

Thats the big drawback of lies and bullsh!t...its impossible to keep track of it all.

QuoteThe trouble is that you simply declaring your subjective judgments does not make those judgments correct or even close.  You have yet to establish what you assert as the basis for what you conclude.

Also forgot his defense of CDC hiding the autism evidence.

QuoteDo you oppose the injection of any medications knowing that in sufficient quantities they can do long term harm or even cause death?

Troll  mistakenly cross examines self.

QuoteFor example do you oppose post operative morphine or toradol? Do you oppose antibiotic injections including PIC lines?  How are you on oral medications?  Are you opposed to NSAIDs knowing that in particular acetaminophen overdose can cause permanent liver damage or even death?

The Troll Inquisition ends here...

Having clearly outlined my position on the issues 'at hand'...entertaining this trolls' various red herring attempts to deflect attention away from his support of the depopulation agenda.

I shall leave the troll hanging on his own petard.

A credit to his species without a doubt.

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 09:51:12 PM



Seems they did that themselves...all they needed was a little prompting.

So yet again you simply declare that something is so without offering supporting evidence.

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Must've forgot his defense of the MMR "vacccine"...

What substance do you claim is in the MMR vaccine at a dangerous dosage?

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Thats the big drawback of lies and bullsh!t...its impossible to keep track of it all.

At this point the search is still on for any supporting evidence for your outrageous claims.

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Also forgot his defense of CDC hiding the autism evidence.

Once again you assert a claim that you do not support with evidence.  Will you be so kind as to show where anyone has established that the CDC hid autism evidence and that a poster here defended such a proven action?

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Troll  mistakenly cross examines self.

Is there a reason that instead of answering the question directed to you that simply asked for your opinion: 

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QuoteDo you oppose the injection of any medications knowing that in sufficient quantities they can do long term harm or even cause death?

?  It's all fine and well that you resort again to ad hominem attacks.  A reasonable person might expect that if you believe what you profess that you would be willing to be clear in your statements.

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The Troll Inquisition ends here...

Again, you seem very reticent to state your position with clarity.  The question was straight forward enough: 

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QuoteFor example do you oppose post operative morphine or toradol? Do you oppose antibiotic injections including PIC lines?  How are you on oral medications?  Are you opposed to NSAIDs knowing that in particular acetaminophen overdose can cause permanent liver damage or even death?

Having clearly outlined my position on the issues 'at hand'...entertaining this trolls' various red herring attempts to deflect attention away from his support of the depopulation agenda.

LOL, well you see there is a bit of a problem with evidence here.  You assert that vaccines are part of a "depopulation agenda" and yet since the introduction of vaccines the world population has more than doubled and the US population has grown by more than 50%.  Perhaps you would like to offer an explanation of how this diabolical scheme that you assert has been in play for about 50 years now is supposed to work.

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I shall leave the troll hanging on his own petard.

A credit to his species without a doubt.

Regards...

*turns mirror on flustered troll*

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
*turns mirror on flustered troll*

LOL, Cap you can declare whatever you like.  You might even be able to convince yourself that some of it is true.

The "LOL" of resignation...too much tungsten, stainless steel, and plastic in his system methinks.

Can you inject that sh!t ?

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
The "LOL" of resignation...too much tungsten, stainless steel, and plastic in his system methinks.

Can you inject that sh!t ?

Regards...

LOL, Jim Lahey lives!

Quote from: MilesHigher on December 01, 2014, 02:29:43 AM

If you are going to research heath and nutrition, by all means go to many web sites and don't get all your information from naturalnews.com.  Not surprisingly, they take up the torch for mercury in vaccines.

It took me 10 minutes to learn why there is mercury in vaccines.  It's used as a preservative to prevent the possible growth of dangerous bacteria or fungi.  The comparison to drinking water is a false whackadoo comparison.

Life is a learning experience and all that jazz.

Miles Higher,

Very sadly, your research stopped prematurely.
There are better choices than Hg for use in
vaccines to purportedly accomplish what you
found. :o

Silver nano-particles are far more effective and
non-hazardous to human health. ;D

But then, those who make the highest level
decisions are well aware of that.  Therefore,
Mercury is the toxic of choice. ;)

Quote from: MarkE on December 01, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
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You assert that vaccines are part of a "depopulation agenda" and yet since the introduction of vaccines the world population has more than doubled and the US population has grown by more than 50%.  Perhaps you would like to offer an explanation of how this diabolical scheme that you assert has been in play for about 50 years now is supposed to work.

Focusing on 'numbers' rather than 'quality of
life' is playing into the deception. :o

The AGENDA is selectively being implemented
gradually and incrementally.  Thus far, the U.S.
has not been a primary target for the most effective
of the 'vaccine killers.' 8)

The 'tool of preference' for the U.S. and nearly all of
The West is currently geo-engineering, SRM persistent
contrails, weather manipulations, Genetically Modified
Organisms including foodstuffs, and pharmaceutical
'side-effects.'  Killing us softly with their 'love.' ::)

Unless, of course, they unleash another of their wars
just for the helluvit.  As is now being attempted in The
Ukraine. ???

Fear not.  Even those who believe they are 'protected'
by being faithful servants of those who wield power over
the World in their Darkness, are themselves doomed to the
same fate as the 'unwashed masses.'  It will become ever
more apparent within the next five to ten years. >:(

The Elites at the Top of the Heap really love to use betrayal.
Their minions will awaken too late to discover that they may run
but they will not be able to hide from what is planned for them. :'(

*feels the neuro toxic love*

But Markey lives it.

Give it to Markey, he'll eat anything toxic...except his words, that is.

Regards...

I have it on good authority that Captain Zero has just been demoted to Captain Minus One.  He has earned it.

Bill

Noted that the drunk texting butt pirate has sobered up...a legend in his own small mind.

He shows up to relieve his fellow shill by dragging the narrative down to his low level, discourse.

Apparently this wizard stands with his vaccine heroes.

Please notice how all the vaccine backing wack jobs have avoided the hidden autism reports ?

Regards...

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 01, 2014, 11:28:53 PM
Noted that the drunk texting butt pirate has sobered up...a legend in his own small mind.

He shows up to relieve his fellow shill by dragging the narrative down to his low level, discourse.

Apparently this wizard stands with his vaccine heroes.

Please notice how all the vaccine backing wack jobs have avoided the hidden autism reports ?

Regards...

I have never sent a text in my life.  My phone does not do texting.

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about and...neither do you.

Thanks for making that obvious.

Bill

I noted your additional gay terms you can't help but use.

The echo in that head has to be unbearable...its bad enough from out here.

The only question is whether he's a vaccine casualty or naturally empty headed.

Inbreeding could also factor in.

Regards...

I'd still like for somebody to explain the conspiracy to hide the damning autism reports.

If not, then maybe we can get back to speculation on the invention of Mike Adams.

There are certainly lots of speculators here.

Regards...

Cap
they are hiding the connections for liability reasons,or should I say tried to hide...

"edited out the noise" [just told cap how I felt and removed it]

respectfully
Chet

I predicted a massive class action suit when the story broke.

Check out http://www.watercure2.org/ for info on autism...look in the testimonial section on left of page.

The more this issue is discussed in whatever the venue can only serve to bring about greater awareness...I fail to see any down side.

Having said that, i would much rather focus on the threads topic...however, a select few here do not seem to want the thread to develop in that direction.

Regards...

yes the topic is quite interesting
I hope it stays more "on topic"
thx
Chet

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 01, 2014, 10:44:06 PM
Focusing on 'numbers' rather than 'quality of
life' is playing into the deception. :o

The claim is one of "depopulation".  Population is numeric.  The numbers refute the claim.

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The AGENDA is selectively being implemented
gradually and incrementally.  Thus far, the U.S.
has not been a primary target for the most effective
of the 'vaccine killers.' 8)

The numbers do not show population reduction in the rest of the world either.

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The 'tool of preference' for the U.S. and nearly all of
The West is currently geo-engineering, SRM persistent
contrails, weather manipulations, Genetically Modified
Organisms including foodstuffs, and pharmaceutical
'side-effects.'  Killing us softly with their 'love.' ::)

That's lots of assertion w/o supporting evidence.

Quote

Unless, of course, they unleash another of their wars
just for the helluvit.  As is now being attempted in The
Ukraine. ???

Sadly, war is big business.  It is a business made easier by larger populations that compete for perceived scarce resources.

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Fear not.  Even those who believe they are 'protected'
by being faithful servants of those who wield power over
the World in their Darkness, are themselves doomed to the
same fate as the 'unwashed masses.'  It will become ever
more apparent within the next five to ten years. >:(

who let you in on the coming zombie ROBOT apocalypse?  We've got to keep James Cameron out of the bars.

Quote

The Elites at the Top of the Heap really love to use betrayal.
Their minions will awaken too late to discover that they may run
but they will not be able to hide from what is planned for them. :'(

If you can't trust megalomaniacal psycopaths, then who can you trust?

QuoteCheck out http://www.watercure2.org/ (http://www.watercure2.org/) for info on autism...look in the testimonial section on left of page.

I didn't get far enough to read any testimonials on autism.  What I did see was a schlocky web site pitching water that could have been designed by Aaron himself.

What a joke to see you link to that nonsensical junk.

QuoteThe information in this interview could save the physical and financial health of the world at no cost. Learn why drugs can't cure HBP & most health problems, but diet, water & sea salt can.

Buy my book and I will "deprogram" you because you have been drinking water the wrong way all of your life.  I will reprogram you to drink water properly but you must buy my book!  The secrets of drinking water finally revealed!  In one year you must buy my book on the advanced secrets of drinking water!  Then later you can buy my book, "Salt Secrets Explained - Learn from the Secret World of Dogs and Elephants."

Stay tuned for my books "Breathing Explained" and "Walking, the Conspiracy."

Just Captain Zero at his best, defying the skeptics and proving that he can be even more whackadoo than they could possibly imagine.

MH, sounds suspiciously like Lindemann and Bedini. Buy my latest and greatest book on OU. Of course, neither ever demonstrated a working OU device.

Quote from: MarkE on December 02, 2014, 10:40:05 AM
The claim is one of "depopulation".  Population is numeric.  The numbers refute the claim.

The numbers do not show population reduction in the rest of the world either.That's lots of assertion w/o supporting evidence.

Sadly, war is big business.  It is a business made easier by larger populations that compete for perceived scarce resources.

who let you in on the coming zombie ROBOT apocalypse?  We've got to keep James Cameron out of the bars.

If you can't trust megalomaniacal psycopaths, then who can you trust?

Depopulation as it applies to the AGENDA has
several meanings.  Causing to proliferate a
population which suffers numerous maladies
which prevent them from reaching their full
potential is Goal No. 1.

Early deaths (some number of years
following inoculation) due to those
maladies is Goal No. 2.

Death shortly following vaccinations due to
complications for a small percentage of
recipients (markers for tracking of toxic
effects) is Goal No. 3.

Depopulation which occurs too quickly would
be a 'dead giveaway' to the PLAN.

Except for Wars.  The brainwashed masses have
been conditioned to accept War as a necessary
evil.  It has proven to be a very efficient depopulation
methodology with recently developed unconventional
techniques.

Your final observation above aptly describes the state
of mind of those who, for the time being, have near
complete total power over Planet Earth.  Those who
place their trust in them will be sorely disappointed
as the End Game goes into play.  The numbers who
are PLANNED to survive what is soon to come are
very small.  Very old bloodlines and very old money.

Everyone else are but 'animals' and 'useless eaters.'

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 02, 2014, 02:54:47 PM
Depopulation as it applies to the AGENDA has
several meanings.  Causing to proliferate a
population which suffers numerous maladies
which prevent them from reaching their full
potential is Goal No. 1.

Is it your standard habit to simply redefine terms?

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Early deaths (some number of years
following inoculation) due to those
maladies is Goal No. 2.

Are you talking about poisons that take so long to act that the cause of death is interpreted as old age?

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Death shortly following vaccinations due to
complications for a small percentage of
recipients (markers for tracking of toxic
effects) is Goal No. 3.

If that is so then why was the suspect Novartis flu vaccine pulled in Italy?  If your idea was correct they should be expanding its use.

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Depopulation which occurs too quickly would
be a 'dead giveaway' to the PLAN.

Given that the world population has more than doubled since the introduction of these "depopulation" vaccines the scheme doesn't seem to be working very well.

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Except for Wars.  The brainwashed masses have
been conditioned to accept War as a necessary
evil.  It has proven to be a very efficient depopulation
methodology with recently developed unconventional
techniques.

Except for wars, what?  As devastating and awful as war is the world's population continues to climb, climb, climb.

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Your final observation above aptly describes the state
of mind of those who, for the time being, have near
complete total power over Planet Earth.  Those who
place their trust in them will be sorely disappointed
as the End Game goes into play.  The numbers who
are PLANNED to survive what is soon to come are
very small.  Very old bloodlines and very old money.

Everyone else are but 'animals' and 'useless eaters.'

[/quote]While there are very powerful people filled far more avarice than the milk of human kindness, you have not established a "depopulation" agenda. 

Quote from: MarkE on December 02, 2014, 03:19:15 PM
Is it your standard habit to simply redefine terms?

Not re-defining at all.  Simply illuminating how the
PLAN defines the strategy.

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Are you talking about poisons that take so long to act that the cause of death is interpreted as old age?If that is so then why was the suspect Novartis flu vaccine pulled in Italy? If your idea was correct they should be expanding its use.

That is the beauty of their deception.  Once
the public becomes aware that the 'medicine'
is flawed it is 'lovingly' pulled from further use.
Until the next toxin is tried in other trials.

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Given that the world population has more than doubled since the introduction of these "depopulation" vaccines the scheme doesn't seem to be working very well.

The efforts resorted to thus far have purposely
been limited as to their deadliness, all in
preparation for the day when the PLAN will be
implemented at full power.  It is coming.

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Except for wars, what?  As devastating and awful as war is the world's population continues to climb, climb, climb.While there are very powerful people filled far more avarice than the milk of human kindness, you have not established a "depopulation" agenda.

Wars and their consequent devastation have largely
been accepted by the brain numbed masses.  Even
the extent of government corruption, the unending lies
which emanate from the mouths of politicians and policy
makers, are now accepted as the nature of 'business as
usual.'

That so many are unable to 'see' or to recognize the
ongoing AGENDA of sickness and death which threatens
their existence simply demonstrates the effectiveness of
the deceptive cover over their mendacious and evil PLANS.

Mind Control techniques which in the minds of the people
cloud reality are very, very successful.  Trauma and Fear
are the keys.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 02, 2014, 06:19:37 PM
Not re-defining at all.  Simply illuminating how the
PLAN defines the strategy.

You said that the word:  "depopulation" 

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QuoteDepopulation as it applies to the AGENDA has
several meanings.  Causing to proliferate a
population which suffers numerous maladies
which prevent them from reaching their full
potential is Goal No. 1.

Obviously you aren't content to use words as found in the dictionary, but for some reason you choose to deny what you're doing.  It's a strange choice, but it's yours to make.

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That is the beauty of their deception.  Once
the public becomes aware that the 'medicine'
is flawed it is 'lovingly' pulled from further use.
Until the next toxin is tried in other trials.

LOL, that's a wild plot you've come up with:  Spend millions and millions on a poison, introduce it, then pull it after it has only killed a few people, make sure that people hear about it so that they are wary, and then start all over again.  At that rate the herd will thin by about 0.0000002% every couple years.

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The efforts resorted to thus far have purposely
been limited as to their deadliness, all in
preparation for the day when the PLAN will be
implemented at full power.  It is coming.

Sure it is.  Say, would you be interested in after doomsday care for your pets?  You don't want them to suffer just because the PTB are going to smight you from the earth along with all the other "little people" as Leona was fond of saying.

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Wars and their consequent devastation have largely
been accepted by the brain numbed masses.  Even
the extent of government corruption, the unending lies
which emanate from the mouths of politicians and policy
makers, are now accepted as the nature of 'business as
usual.'

That so many are unable to 'see' or to recognize the
ongoing AGENDA of sickness and death which threatens
their existence simply demonstrates the effectiveness of
the deceptive cover over their mendacious and evil PLANS.

LOL, the plans are apparently so clever that people grow to be old and senile so they can't recognize that the PTB are killing them off before they can grow old.  Right.  And will you be dining with the Red Queen this evening?

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Mind Control techniques which in the minds of the people
cloud reality are very, very successful.  Trauma and Fear
are the keys.

Lots of bad public policy is sold by instilling fear.  The rest of your ideas concerning depopulation you have failed to evidence.

Quote from: ramset on December 02, 2014, 12:25:48 AM
Cap
they are hiding the connections for liability reasons,or should I say tried to hide...

"edited out the noise" [just told cap how I felt and removed it]

respectfully
Chet

***EDITED***

My originals thoughts were removed once I shared them.

Bill

I always think it is funny when folks think that big corporations have a business policy of killing their customers.  I mean, really...think about it.

Open a business, hire employees, sell stock and then...kill everyone that buys your product.  What a great plan.  Except, who is going to be left to buy their products?????

Duh!

I thought they were all about evil profits?  Hard to make a profit when all of your customers are dead.


Bill

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 02, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
I always think it is funny when folks think that big corporations have a business policy of killing their customers.  I mean, really...think about it.

Open a business, hire employees, sell stock and then...kill everyone that buys your product.  What a great plan.  Except, who is going to be left to buy their products?????

Duh!

I thought they were all about evil profits?  Hard to make a profit when all of your customers are dead.


Bill

The silly depopulation idea gets around.  If it isn't the vaccines that save countless lives that are going to destroy the population, it's the imaginary chemtrails raining imaginary death on the whole planet so only the rich who are somehow magically immunized (chemtrail vaccines with fluoride???) rich folks don't fall down dead.

No wonder the 2 bum sniffers are leaving to warm comfort of my crack...that last display of loon logic makes them look even more insane than their rationalization of the use of mercury in vaccines.

Regards...

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 02, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
I always think it is funny when folks think that big corporations have a business policy of killing their customers.  I mean, really...think about it.

Open a business, hire employees, sell stock and then...kill everyone that buys your product.  What a great plan.  Except, who is going to be left to buy their products? ??? ?

Duh!

I thought they were all about evil profits?  Hard to make a profit when all of your customers are dead.


Bill

Those who implement the policies and the
strategies (the enforcers) for the Big Corporations
have no 'need to know' regarding what is the
true intent of any of the 'business' which they're
overseeing.

Compartmentalization and Security Levels
assure that all but the very top of the structure
are operating in deception, following orders so
to speak, in exchange for satisfying working
conditions and ample remuneration.  A good sized
paycheck buys allegiance and limits hazardous
curiosity.  Not many questions are asked.

Governments have become Corporations for the
same reasons.  Very little accountability and virtually
no liability for any harm done.

As the Health Care Industry assists people down
the path to their untimely demise measures are
taken to assure that "Profit" is maximized.  Particularly
in the multi-billion dollar per annum Cancer industry.

The PLAN is yet in the research stage where various
modalities are being evaluated for their eventual use
to bring about the famines and pestilences in the near
future to reduce the population of the World drastically.

It has all been foretold in The Book.

Their cleverness and ability to deceive as they carry out
their evil plans has proven to be a very effective shield.
The masses are marching to their end willingly.

LOL, you purport to know the strategy of a supposed plan so secret that even those carrying it out have no idea of its existence.  So in order to know such secrets you would have to be one of the conspirators.

Mark, all you have to do is read 'the book'; available on amazon.com

Quote from: memoryman on December 03, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Mark, all you have to do is read 'the book'; available on amazon.com

Oh well if it is in 'THE BOOK' then it must be true.

Quote from: MarkE on December 03, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
LOL, you purport to know the strategy of a supposed plan so secret that even those carrying it out have no idea of its existence.  So in order to know such secrets you would have to be one of the conspirators.

Nay, the Grand Plan has been made available, for any
who might be interested, in numerous publications,
articles and opinion pieces scattered throughout the
information network.  The Council on Foreign Relations
and several "thinktanks" have publicized a great deal
and quite a lot is available within legislation and
executive orders.

The Elites never do anything at all without first making
their plans known through several avenues mostly
outside the public eye.  Those in the know do know
where to look.

The specifics are quite often detailed in various scientific
papers and journals.

The only Secrets in the PLAN relate to when and by whom
the numerous schemes are put into action.  Only a very
select few are given the advice to take cover.

The "warriors" who enforce the PLAN are never made
aware of anything.  They are simply expendable "cannon
fodder."

Support the Troops!

The Capital fire and before you know it you are living in a shopping mall, it's Logan's Run!

@MH
Oh sweet Jesus do we really have to go there? Logan's run?... I still have nightmares over the fact I watched what has to be the worst acting in the history of cinema three times because there was nothing else on. I can almost see it as we speak...thanks.

AC

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 03, 2014, 07:51:57 PM
Nay, the Grand Plan has been made available, for any
who might be interested, in numerous publications,
articles and opinion pieces scattered throughout the
information network.  The Council on Foreign Relations
and several "thinktanks" have publicized a great deal
and quite a lot is available within legislation and
executive orders.

So the plan that is supposedly so secret that not even the people executing it know about it is common knowledge.  LOL, these conspiracy theories can be entertaining.

Quote

The Elites never do anything at all without first making
their plans known through several avenues mostly
outside the public eye.  Those in the know do know
where to look.

The specifics are quite often detailed in various scientific
papers and journals.

The only Secrets in the PLAN relate to when and by whom
the numerous schemes are put into action.  Only a very
select few are given the advice to take cover.

The "warriors" who enforce the PLAN are never made
aware of anything.  They are simply expendable "cannon
fodder."

Support the Troops!

LOL

@Seamonkey

QuoteNay, the Grand Plan has been made available, for anywho might be interested, in numerous publications,articles and opinion pieces scattered throughout theinformation network.  The Council on Foreign Relationsand several "thinktanks" have publicized a great dealand quite a lot is available within legislation andexecutive orders.

The problem with think tanks is that they relate directly to politicians. Have you ever met a real politician up close and personal?, I know quite a few unfortunately. The first thing that becomes apparent is that they are mostly used car salesmen and are about as intellectual as a bag full of marbles. I mean they do well with pre-written scripts but anything outside of that context shows "thinkin" just ain't their strongest attribute. Again the old bag of marbles analogy applies here and if they are at the forefront of a world wide conspiracy then I say... hell bring it on.


I know, I know they seem so intelligent but if you actually met them personally after work you would understand how really screwed up they are. Think 10 year old in a three piece suit and your getting warm and what you see on the television is simply actors playing out their part.


I hate to break the news to many here but you know all those people in those commercials, they are also paid actors and none actually use the shit their trying to sell. Everyone plays their part and all get paid but the apparent honesty and intelligence we think we see just ain't there.


The solution is simple, turn off the TV and go outside and start talking to real people who are actually involved in what interests us.There is a conspiracy and it is that our politicians are not even remotely as intelligent as you think they are, they are simply another flavor of the same actors we see on television.


The best thing a person can do in my opinion is lay those conspiracy theory books aside and pick up a good book on psychology. It will explain everything you want to know much better than I ever could.


AC.

Quote from: allcanadian on December 03, 2014, 11:43:54 PM
@Seamonkey

The problem with think tanks is that they relate directly to politicians. Have you ever met a real politician up close and personal?, I know quite a few unfortunately. The first thing that becomes apparent is that they are mostly used car salesmen and are about as intellectual as a bag full of marbles. I mean they do well with pre-written scripts but anything outside of that context shows "thinkin" just ain't their strongest attribute. Again the old bag of marbles analogy applies here and if they are at the forefront of a world wide conspiracy then I say... hell bring it on.


I know, I know they seem so intelligent but if you actually met them personally after work you would understand how really screwed up they are. Think 10 year old in a three piece suit and your getting warm and what you see on the television is simply actors playing out their part.


I hate to break the news to many here but you know all those people in those commercials, they are also paid actors and none actually use the shit their trying to sell. Everyone plays their part and all get paid but the apparent honesty and intelligence we think we see just ain't there.


The solution is simple, turn off the TV and go outside and start talking to real people who are actually involved in what interests us.There is a conspiracy and it is that our politicians are not even remotely as intelligent as you think they are, they are simply another flavor of the same actors we see on television.


The best thing a person can do in my opinion is lay those conspiracy theory books aside and pick up a good book on psychology. It will explain everything you want to know much better than I ever could.

You've quite accurately captured the essence of
politics as it exists today.  It is dirty business.

Most overestimate their 'position' in the structure
which they've pledged their allegiance to. (No, it
is not the Constitution or the Republic or the People.)

All career politicians have been compromised and have
no choice but to do the bidding of their masters or
suffer the consequences.  To get some idea of the
'benefits' of being a faithful servant of the Elites find
a copy of Cathy O'briens "Trance-Formation of
America (http://www.trance-formation.com/)."

Yes, they do become quite proficient 'actors.'
They're helped along the way to polish their skills.

Quote from: MarkE on December 03, 2014, 11:35:15 PM
So the plan that is supposedly so secret that not even the people executing it know about it is common knowledge.  LOL, these conspiracy theories can be entertaining.LOL

While the PLAN is made available to any who are
interested, once they know where to find it, a certain
amount of skill is required piece it together from its
multiple locations and to make sense of it.

Unfortunately, for the People who will be taken by surprise
to their discomfort when the time arrives, the security of the
PLAN is quite safe.  So long as the people believe that such plans
are naught more than 'conspiracy theories' to poke fun at
the layers of deception have fully accomplished their purpose.

Those who have 'awakened' to what is truly happening and
who have 'turned' to Truth have done so as a result of their
having done time in the 'belly of the Beast' where they've gotten
to know the true nature of the Big Name Actors who promote
the dirty business.  When one sees the deception at work up
close and personal one is faced with a choice - to join IT or to
resist IT.

Yes, for the masses the 'theories' are very entertaining.  Several
popular TV programs have been very profitable because they
are so 'entertaining' and unbelievable.  'In your face' simply
doesn't register with the brain-numbed Joe Six Packs.

No matter. What will be will be.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 04, 2014, 12:56:26 AM
While the PLAN is made available to any who are
interested, once they know where to find it, a certain
amount of skill is required piece it together from its
multiple locations and to make sense of it.

Your convoluted stories are getting more and more tortured.  They are pretty funny though.

Quote

Unfortunately, for the People who will be taken by surprise
to their discomfort when the time arrives, the security of the
PLAN is quite safe.  So long as the people believe that such plans
are naught more than 'conspiracy theories' to poke fun at
the layers of deception have fully accomplished their purpose.

Don't you need to go into hiding before the henchmen of the evil planners with their not secret super secret plan come to get you for outing the not secret super secret plan?

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Those who have 'awakened' to what is truly happening and
who have 'turned' to Truth have done so as a result of their
having done time in the 'belly of the Beast' where they've gotten
to know the true nature of the Big Name Actors who promote
the dirty business.  When one sees the deception at work up
close and personal one is faced with a choice - to join IT or to
resist IT.

The trouble is that you previously said that even the henchmen of the evil super secret not a secret plan are in the dark. So, being a henchman of the evil super secret not a secret planners isn't good enough.

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Yes, for the masses the 'theories' are very entertaining.  Several
popular TV programs have been very profitable because they
are so 'entertaining' and unbelievable.  'In your face' simply
doesn't register with the brain-numbed Joe Six Packs.

No matter. What will be will be.

You must be a big Doris Day fan.

Quote from: MarkE on December 04, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
Your convoluted stories are getting more and more tortured.  They are pretty funny though.  Don't you need to go into hiding before the henchmen of the evil planners with their not secret super secret plan come to get you for outing the not secret super secret plan?  The trouble is that you previously said that even the henchmen of the evil super secret not a secret plan are in the dark.  So, being a henchman of the evil super secret not a secret planners isn't good enough.  You must be a big Doris Day fan.

Your responses are always entertaining and fun to
read.  But, in truth, they do reflect very heavily the
typical Joe Six Pack mentality.  An extreme case of
Cognitive Dissonance.

You strive to put up a front with humor and skepticism
which belies your intense fears that your World View
may indeed be wrong.  You are beginning to have serious
doubts that those whom you revere are really as they seem.

Yes, it is terribly uncomfortable during that phase of the
awakening.  You are beginning to see that the World you
so adored and believed in is in reality corrupt and wicked.

Rather than admitting openly that such is the case the
defense of your World View only intensifies;  hoping hope
of hopes that the nightmare you're getting a glimpse of
is just a figment of your imagination.

On the one hand, welcome to the Real World.  On the
other, fear not; in due time the dissonance will evaporate.
Naturally, this event will not be pleasant and you will be
wrought with dread, but you will work through it.

Your fears, though very strong at this moment, will eventually
subside as well.  As you ultimately realize that the Bad Boys in
control of this world are on a self-destructive course that will
in due time fail.

The Forces of Good will win the final battle which is approaching
and though many will die, their death is only temporary.  All
will be brought back for healing and renewed life when the
New World is instituted and death is finally done away with.

Bon Voyage!
 

The rational skeptics will no doubt hide out in their redoubt in Antarctica!  lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1S5pAF1YYA

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 04, 2014, 06:28:19 PM
Your responses are always entertaining and fun to
read.  But, in truth, they do reflect very heavily the
typical Joe Six Pack mentality.  An extreme case of
Cognitive Dissonance.

You strive to put up a front with humor and skepticism
which belies your intense fears that your World View
may indeed be wrong.  You are beginning to have serious
doubts that those whom you revere are really as they seem.

LOL, Not only do you claim to be privy to the super secret plans of the elites you claim to be privy to the inner thoughts of people you have never met.

Quote

Yes, it is terribly uncomfortable during that phase of the
awakening.  You are beginning to see that the World you
so adored and believed in is in reality corrupt and wicked.

Rather than admitting openly that such is the case the
defense of your World View only intensifies;  hoping hope
of hopes that the nightmare you're getting a glimpse of
is just a figment of your imagination.

On the one hand, welcome to the Real World.  On the
other, fear not; in due time the dissonance will evaporate.
Naturally, this event will not be pleasant and you will be
wrought with dread, but you will work through it.

Your fears, though very strong at this moment, will eventually
subside as well.  As you ultimately realize that the Bad Boys in
control of this world are on a self-destructive course that will
in due time fail.

The Forces of Good will win the final battle which is approaching
and though many will die, their death is only temporary.  All
will be brought back for healing and renewed life when the
New World is instituted and death is finally done away with.

Bon Voyage!

I think your ship sailed a looooong time ago.

Quote from: MarkE
LOL, Not only do you claim to be privy to the super secret plans of the elites you claim to be privy to the inner thoughts of people you have never met.  I think your ship sailed a looooong time ago.

The PLAN itself is not secret at all.  In fact many have
discovered what it is.  The only Secret about it is the
when, where and by whom.

Regarding your inner thoughts;  your writings reveal
more than you may wish to make known.  Anyone
who is skilled at interpretation of communications
and how the subconscious affects our speech and
opinions has no problem in recognizing them.

Naturally, your body language would offer additional
readings.

Yes, in fact I was a sailor and served aboard several
ships both small and large.  It was a great life in those days.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
The PLAN itself is not secret at all.  In fact many have
discovered what it is.  The only Secret about it is the
when, where and by whom.

Regarding your inner thoughts;  your writings reveal
more than you may wish to make known.  Anyone
who is skilled at interpretation of communications
and how the subconscious affects our speech and
opinions has no problem in recognizing them.

Naturally, your body language would offer additional
readings.

Yes, in fact I was a sailor and served aboard several
ships both small and large.  It was a great life in those days.

Sailed far from the shores of reality never to return did it?

Admittedly, in those glorious days I was indeed
basking in the ignorance of the 'un-reality' and
living the carefree life of a sailor. 8)

I didn't get fully into the 'belly of the beast' until
some years later where verification of my suspicions
did occur.  Shortly thereafter I made my choice.
It was not difficult although the 'offer' was substantial.
Satanism never has been my bag... ::)

Unfortunately, the numbers of politicians who make
the 'deal' is staggering.  Senior military officers (Flag
Rank) too which was a shock. :o

Entertainers?  Almost 100%. ::)

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2014, 02:13:54 AM
Admittedly, in those glorious days I was indeed
basking in the ignorance of the 'un-reality' and
living the carefree life of a sailor. 8)

I didn't get fully into the 'belly of the beast' until
some years later where verification of my suspicions
did occur.  Shortly thereafter I made my choice.
It was not difficult although the 'offer' was substantial.
Satanism never has been my bag... ::)

Unfortunately, the numbers of politicians who make
the 'deal' is staggering.  Senior military officers (Flag
Rank) too which was a shock. :o

Entertainers?  Almost 100%. ::)

How could you say no to the monthly virgin volcano sacrifices?

Quote from: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 02:53:15 AM
How could you say no to the monthly virgin volcano sacrifices?

Nay, that is fiction.

It was much better than that (they weren't virgins)
and the range of 'benefits' hard to believe.  Salary
would have been upper crust.

By that time I had already begun to see how extensive
the corruption, the controls and the occult connections
were.

Quote from: SeaMonkey on December 05, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
Nay, that is fiction.

It was much better than that (they weren't virgins)
and the range of 'benefits' hard to believe.  Salary
would have been upper crust.

By that time I had already begun to see how extensive
the corruption, the controls and the occult connections
were.

Of course it was.  And of course you know that once one is "in" they can never actually leave.  Be seeing you.

Quote from: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
Of course it was.  And of course you know that once one is "in" they can never actually leave.  Be seeing you.

Now that depends.  At the highest levels that is
certainly the reality.  At the lower levels leaving
(or refusing the offer) is clearly a possibility.

As I said, Satanism has never been my thing.
Consequently I didn't follow the path of recruitment
or seek entry into any of the secret societies.  I
simply had some talent which they thought may
be useful to their endeavors.  I was never in possession
of any 'knowledge' which places one beyond the point
of return.

With the exception of perhaps two 'parties' I never
partook of any of their 'benefits' which in reality were
'traps' of compromise.  Sexual entrapment is one of their
choice hooks but since I'd been around the block a few
times as a sailor I was well aware of their intent.

I should add that the 'parties' were straight.  Homosexual
'candidates' are dealt with in other circumstances with
other temptations.

Once one enters through the mirror into the realm of the Borg
escape is impossible.  Many who are being 'processed' fail
to see that fatal detail.

Quote from: MarkE on December 05, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
Be seeing you.

Nice reference.

Quote from: sarkeizen on December 12, 2014, 01:57:04 PM
Nice reference.

L-B-S-2-3-1-D