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Title: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: psychopath on September 07, 2007, 07:34:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxnHJoyrQpM&mode=related&search=

For some reason I am sort of puzzled at how it goes up the pipe, but it seems to work!

ps it is not perpetual or overunity, but I am still amazed for some reason.

edit:Sorry, I have put it in the wrong section...
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 07, 2007, 09:41:32 AM
Not only it is posted in the wrong section but it was already discussed elsewhere.

The movie is showing nothing more than a rare piece of marvelous completely useless machine.
Not surprisingly, it is coming from Mr. Tseung. Now I can understand better some of his hidden reasons and agenda: if spending several good thousands dollars on machines like this (and on various auxiliary equipments as well as on rent, energy, wages etc) then it is not surprisingly your financiers will not be happy at all. In extremis, promoting to the absurd may offer a little bit of excuse and may buy some time before the final judgment?

About the machine itself: one phase of its cycle was carefully removed by editing the video. The phase in which the orange weight is removed from the tube at the upper part. Why? Because when removing the said weight, one can clearly see that the water level in the tube dropped. What would be the energy to raise the water level in the tube after removing the weight? More than that extracted!

You ask why is the orange weight going up to the tube? That?s a simple question: because its density is slightly lower than that of water. In other words, the weight is floating, nothing more than that.

It is too bad that some funds (and quite important for small labs) go into holes like this.
Funds that otherwise could be used for real OU research and experiments!
Or maybe for other important areas like health and medication, right Mr. Tseung?
(I can?t help but noticing the great resemblance of that orange weight and a pill. A huge pill!  ;D)

Have a nice day,
Tinu
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 09:50:26 AM
Quote from: tinu on September 07, 2007, 09:41:32 AMit is not surprisingly your financiers will not be happy at all. In extremis, promoting to the absurd may offer a little bit of excuse and may buy some time before the final judgment?

Ow yes those poor bankers again, eeeew must have mercy on the bankers!! ROFL!! You seem to think an investor is not capible of making up his own mind, and you seem to think his money is yours to direct? Did you notice you are quite insulting? Why is that? Cant you use normal words?
QuoteAbout the machine itself: one phase of its cycle was carefully removed by editing the video.
No this was absolutely discussed, you can ask Lawrence anything about it YOU LIAR.

QuoteThe phase in which the orange weight is removed from the tube at the upper part. Why?
Because that was not part of the setup. DOHH!!

QuoteBecause when removing the said weight,

By talking sad bunk?

Quoteone can clearly see that the water level in the tube dropped. What would be the energy to raise the water level in the tube after removing the weight? More than that extracted!

YES!!! But you sure can use it to generate power from small mountain steams. And you think you can blame some one for researching something and sharing something.

What have you researched? What have you shared? Nothing? Show me one of your videos.

Then we can compare you.

You have nothing to show? Your sharing involves just complaints? How are you going to build something that works with this approach?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: argona369 on September 07, 2007, 10:03:50 AM
Your absolutely right Tinu.

The top of the water tube is sealed and there?s
absolutely positively and conclusively no way to
remove that orange pill without lowering the water level.
There?s absolutely NOTHING remarkable with that demonstration.

Added: actually the water level is already lowered when the ?pill?
reaches the top.
Energy is needed to replace the water to the top.
nothing remarkable.
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 07, 2007, 10:32:38 AM
@ gaby de wilde

I?m still waiting for your reply in the http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2794.255;topicseen thread ?
Discussion is there, not here.

I stopped asking Lawrence questions some time ago because if you check the above thread, it is clear that he is answering neither to me nor to anyone else having a real issue.

Now, you have to calm down, not me.
The visitors Mr. Tseung will bring to you on your forum will not be significant, neither in quantity nor in quality. So rest assured; you loose nothing. If you want to defend Mr. Tseung just for a little service (I?d rather call it disservice, but it is not my business) he is doing to you, that?s understable also.

Anyway, if there is something serious to discuss, post your answer in reply to my post to you and discuss real subjects for why we are here.
My position to Mr. Tseung is derived from existing posts, from our previous ?dialogue? and from his un-realistic claims. I?m against him and there is no secret in it. Does it offend you? Hmmm?
I?m fighting against false claims and I cure the disease with surgery, if needed. I was against Bill Mehess, onegift4power, innovation_station and others, just to mention a few. I am against Tseung also and I will be against everyone plaguing the field, including you if you will not be capable of admitting you were wrong?
That?s why you agitate?

If I research something or not, why do you bother? Is it a prerequisite to be a member here? I don?t think so. However, if you want to check what I experimented and what I do experiment for now and what I will experiment, check my posts, before everything else.

I?m not a liar and I do not do videos.
Something else I can do for you, Sir?

Have a calm day,
Tinu


PS. Tx, argona369!
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
Did I miss something?  How is the water remaining in the column at all when the top is unsealed to get the floating weight out?  It certainly looks like the column is open at the bottom in the bucket of water, so if the top were opened, the column would drop way down and the bucket would flood the floor unless the bottom of the column was temporarily sealed tight.

It looks like there are video-edit-concealed things going on at both top and bottom of the water column during the time the floating weight is manually taken out of there and put back on the chain.

Maybe Ashtweth Nihilisti Dasien and Gaby de Wilde Man can get together with Charles Campbell,  Jesse McQueen, Lawrence Tseung and maybe Innovation Station to figure out a way to fix these minor adjustment problems.  I'm sure the concept is sound...it just needs lots of replications, ten or twenty years of laborious tweaking and a large R&D grant from the public! 

How dare you scoff at such promising ideas, Argona and Tinu!  You haven't even built one yet!  Damn armchair skeptics!  Don't you know you are not allowed to comment unless you have built at least seven failed versions of it first?  And posted gigabytes of slickly-edited videos?  And broadly proclaimed huge arcing overunity energy output power levels each time before doing any tests?  You should be ashamed!

::)

Humbugger

Oh, and one more thing:  I can tell you are both CIA oil-men educated at Ivy League universities and members of Skull and Bones and the Trilateral Commission.  Know how I can tell?  Easy.  You both seem to be able to spell and form complete sentences!  Damn armchair skeptic oil-men anyway...
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 02:05:10 PM
You seem to know exactly what is non of your business.  When I study your web design my mission ends here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4380

You are very, give me tips on how to make a website. It seems you have no idea about the whole topic. You don't even have a free homepage some place. You are not going to get a lot of visitors like this?

Ah, what about that?

Apparently it's perfectly cool to tell you how wrong you are. You do it yourself all of the time using a very weird vocabulary. Like when we compared your website to mine and you said I was the one doing things wrong remember? And you are now going to use surgery on me? You the anonymous armchair septic? Do feel free to stop talking about me Anonymous. I don't need you promoting my website for me.

I compare your videos to those of Lawrence. You seem to have forgotten to press record? You know? The basics again?

I suggest you go easy on the crackpot accusation.  Also feel free to stop your poor investors preaching. You know as much about investing as about web design.

Are you out of diapers jet miss/mister? Or Senior citizen already? How do you wish we look at you Anonymous?

Oh wait, you desire to remain fully anonymous while you slander people? What an interesting detail little boy.

Feel free to grow up now.

Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
Did I miss something?  How is the water remaining in the column at all when the top is unsealed to get the floating weight out?  It certainly looks like the column is open at the bottom in the bucket of water, so if the top were opened, the column would drop way down and the bucket would flood the floor unless the bottom of the column was temporarily sealed tight.

You seem to know all the questions already.

Now that hardly makes a good excuse to rant about people building research devices.

You poor thing.
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 07, 2007, 02:48:44 PM
No Hum, you?ve missed absolutely nothing, really.
Just the same story, as usual.
But stay tuned. I suspect it?s not over yet. You know?

The part in which the ?pill? is removed has to be just but not more than ?just a little bit? perfected?
It?s a small ?technical? issue, almost solved. Then maybe a ?special OU component? is needed but, hey, someone is almost ready to sell it. Just a small amount of money is still needed for completing the ?research?.

Anyway, good news is the above installation can be used as it is in mountain streams. (This was really funny! In fact, with a good pump ?not shown in the video but obviously there- one can create his own small mountain stream. ;D)
So can be used a small nuclear reactor. (As the stream would chill it nicely)
Still, I?d prefer a simple paddle wheel. A turbine might already be too much of a trouble.
Not to mention the expenses.

By the way, speaking about money and expenses: what?s the proud in spending tens or hundreds of times more, when a simple proof of device can be done in any school lab, with several bucks?!
(Well, other proud beside the ability of fooling people.)

Tinu

P.S. My real issue is that I?m not really an ?armchair skeptic?. Actually, believe it or not, I?m currently testing the theories of gaby de wilde, as per my post in Tseung thread mentioned above.
Like I?ve tested many others before. (Still just a few as compared to the enormous number of ?inventions? appearing all the time.)
I still do some tests but I?m not longer that patient. I?ll post my findings and ask the author to remove his/her un-founded claims. Very few understand and less comply. And that?s where the real value between one person and another reveals: it?s not bad to be wrong but it?s bad to be wrong, proved you were wrong and still not admitting it. :o

Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 03:02:20 PM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 02:07:29 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
Did I miss something?  How is the water remaining in the column at all when the top is unsealed to get the floating weight out?  It certainly looks like the column is open at the bottom in the bucket of water, so if the top were opened, the column would drop way down and the bucket would flood the floor unless the bottom of the column was temporarily sealed tight.

You seem to know all the questions already.

Now that hardly makes a good excuse to rant about people building research devices.

You poor thing.

Gabriela, my dear,

Thank you for your sincere and heartfelt outpouring of pity.   :-*  I need it.  Ashtweth has been snarling at me.   :'(  By the way, when you quoted my post over on the Chas circus, why did you erase the punch line?   :D


@Tinu

I have yet to observe anyone back off even an inch from any pet delusion, no matter how solid the proof I present.  Is it my lack of tact?  Or maybe my breath?   :P


Da Humbugger
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: Ergo on September 07, 2007, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 01:50:42 PM
Maybe Ashtweth Nihilisti Dasien and Gaby de Wilde Man can get together with Charles Campbell,  Jesse McQueen, Lawrence Tseung and maybe Innovation Station to figure out a way to fix these minor adjustment problems.  I'm sure the concept is sound...it just needs lots of replications, ten or twenty years of laborious tweaking and a large R&D grant from the public! 

How dare you scoff at such promising ideas, Argona and Tinu!  You haven't even built one yet!  Damn armchair skeptics!  Don't you know you are not allowed to comment unless you have built at least seven failed versions of it first?  And posted gigabytes of slickly-edited videos?  And broadly proclaimed huge arcing overunity energy output power levels each time before doing any tests?  You should be ashamed!

Humbugger

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....Bullseye. The best reply Iv'e read so far. Very enjoyable.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: argona369 on September 07, 2007, 06:24:20 PM
Hum,,  :P don?t try to hide your remote viewing ability . It has been noted.

The MIB have been informed and they will be there shortly to convince you that
Venus was the cause of your delusions of ?men of oil?.
don?t bother with your tinfoil hat, resistance is futile.
and it is your breath  :o




Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 01:50:42 PM

Oh, and one more thing:  I can tell you are both CIA oil-men educated at Ivy League universities and members of Skull and Bones and the Trilateral Commission.  Know how I can tell?  Easy.  You both seem to be able to spell and form complete sentences!  Damn armchair skeptic oil-men anyway...
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: NerzhDishual on September 07, 2007, 07:29:16 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry for disturbing this very interresting 'talk'  ;D

But?
Gaby de Wilde Email: gdewilde[at]gmail[dot]com
---------------------------------------
Tinu Email: hidden
Humbugger Email: hidden
-----------------------------------------
My question please: why are (apparently most of) the patented skeptics's emails hidden?

Best

PS: H? Tinu?
You R French R U not?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 03:02:20 PM
Gabriela, my dear,

why did you erase the punch line?   :D

Our relationship works better this way.

So when are you going to upload that picture of you as in previous posting suggestion?

Here is a picture of me, (I'm really a man)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gallerym.com%2Fimages%2Fwork%2Fbig%2Fassociated%2520press_marilyn_monroe_seven_yr_itch_L.jpg&hash=1d4daba50edc8f51e986c45432e75f174a5d1794)

Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 07, 2007, 07:29:16 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry for disturbing this very interresting 'talk'  ;D

But?
Gaby de Wilde Email: gdewilde[at]gmail[dot]com
---------------------------------------
Tinu Email: hidden
Humbugger Email: hidden
-----------------------------------------
My question please: why are (apparently most of) the patented skeptics's emails hidden?

Best

PS: H? Tinu?
You R French R U not?

Mine's hidden because I hate spam and I don't like to put myself at risk against immature emotional idiots who might start a spamming tirade or worse and sign me up for thousands of spamfest offers. 

I give out my name, email, location, etc. only as necessary for keeping in touch with friends , old and new, and for doing business I choose to do with whom I choose to do it.  Unlike many here, I'm not hawking anything or shilling for any cause except good engineering and effective communication.

Why, is the fact that I protect myself from nuisances a concern to you?  Did you want to send me a special viro-gram?  You can always PM me and give me a good reason why you need to know more about my personal life.  Maybe I'll tell you some secrets!  Probably not.  I've plenty of true adventures but not many secrets.

Humbugger

Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 11:39:42 PM
Quote from: argona369 on September 07, 2007, 06:24:20 PM
Hum,,  :P don?t try to hide your remote viewing ability . It has been noted.

The MIB have been informed and they will be there shortly to convince you....

You seem to be in the disadvantage. Say give or take a few 100 years? Maybe thousand? You lost the discussion already. What makes you think you will have any success of any kind in any variation of the future in any ways of further kinds? Just thinking of me puts me in control of your every thought.

::)

Quote from: Humbugger on September 07, 2007, 11:28:50 PM
Gabriela, my dear,

Ah I see you've made some effort of something humpy. cool. :D

I found your picture to btw!

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgroningen.bio.ucalgary.ca%2F%7Esean%2Fgargamel.jpg&hash=6fe6c8b72be2443bbad6d4b8e8ebc325b9bbf914)

Specially the cat is funny IMHO.  haha
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 11:41:12 PM
Lets get back to the good questions.

Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 07, 2007, 07:29:16 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry for disturbing this very interresting 'talk'  ;D

But?
Gaby de Wilde Email: gdewilde[at]gmail[dot]com
---------------------------------------
Tinu Email: hidden
Humbugger Email: hidden
-----------------------------------------
My question please: why are (apparently most of) the patented skeptics's emails hidden?

Best

PS: H? Tinu?
You R French R U not?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: Humbugger on September 08, 2007, 12:19:40 AM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 11:41:12 PM
Lets get back to the good questions.

Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 07, 2007, 07:29:16 PM

Hi guys,

Sorry for disturbing this very interresting 'talk'  ;D

But?
Gaby de Wilde Email: gdewilde[at]gmail[dot]com
---------------------------------------
Tinu Email: hidden
Humbugger Email: hidden
-----------------------------------------
My question please: why are (apparently most of) the patented skeptics's emails hidden?

Best

PS: H? Tinu?
You R French R U not?

Asked and answered...scroll up...we are wasting precious bandwidth now...Stefan will have to purchase more hard drives, faster servers, wider fiber links...this means more advertisements.  Please stick to serious matters of grave energy crisis concerns only. 

Dis thread is finito, no mas from Humbugger here
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: NerzhDishual on September 08, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
My dear Humbugger

I was just wondering why most of the skeptics seemed to be e-mail-hidden.

I will not write too much lines as my native language is not English.

I'm sure that you are clever enought to avoid some viro-gram (?) nuisance.

I also can guarantee you that giving your e_mail on this very forum will not bring you a load of spamming idiots. Why? just because you have to be member to see the email and the robots cannot be members. Actually the spams come froms the robots not from the forum members. The worst to be expected is to get a friendy email. That is all what I got... Most of the guys here are nice. Are they not?


Best
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 08, 2007, 01:04:24 AM
G'day all,

If they are working on this kind of nonsense technology in China, no wonder they are buying multi million dollar windfarm technology from Australia.

Besides, this idea has been around for a very long time. It does not work.

Hans von Lieven

BTW.  NerzhDishual  E-mail hidden,   nuff said.
Title: Re: Wow! Flotation machine!
Post by: Humbugger on September 08, 2007, 03:11:37 AM
Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 08, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
My dear Humbugger

I was just wondering why most of the skeptics seemed to be e-mail-hidden.

I will not write too much lines as my native language is not English.

I'm sure that you are clever enought to avoid some viro-gram (?) nuisance.

I also can guarantee you that giving your e_mail on this very forum will not bring you a load of spamming idiots. Why? just because you have to be member to see the email and the robots cannot be members. Actually the spams come froms the robots not from the forum members. The worst to be expected is to get a friendy email. That is all what I got... Most of the guys here are nice. Are they not?


Best

I appreciate your kind offer of guarantees.  Since I cannot myself imagine how you would ever propose to provide such security services nor can I envision how I would collect on the guarantee should you fail, I must decline your generous offer.

If you would like to talk privately, simply use the private mail feature.  I have received many and I usually answer them.  Thank you and happy energy surfing!

the Humbugger
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 08, 2007, 04:22:38 AM
Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 08, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
My dear Humbugger

I was just wondering why most of the skeptics seemed to be e-mail-hidden.

I will not write too much lines as my native language is not English.

I'm sure that you are clever enought to avoid some viro-gram (?) nuisance.

I also can guarantee you that giving your e_mail on this very forum will not bring you a load of spamming idiots. Why? just because you have to be member to see the email and the robots cannot be members. Actually the spams come froms the robots not from the forum members. The worst to be expected is to get a friendy email. That is all what I got... Most of the guys here are nice. Are they not?


Best

You are wrong.
I?m spammed at least 40-50 messages /day on every public e-mail address I?ve shared in the past.
Robots spamming is one easy problem. Human spamming is different because one can be very insistent. And they all start with a ?friendly? message. Well, the bottom line is there are not many persons I can personally reply. I simply do not have enough time. Then, what?s the accusation: that I?m not sharing my e-mail address and instead of replying to my actual and close contacts to start replacing them and replying to various friendly persons occasionally contacting me, persons that I really don?t know who they are?! I mean, instead of going on with my real life, just to throw it away to be able to respond to other messages?! Or to share my e-mail address just to be shared and then to let all the mails un-answered because they are un-important and I really don?t have time for them?! Either way, it would be wrong, imho.
I?m guilty for that, if this is the issue. But I?d like to keep my contacts as they are and my life as it is.
   
If you need one of my e-mail addresses, just ask for it.
Otherwise, I have no reason to share them.
I?m fully contactable and I don?t see your point.

No, I?m not French, like I?ve replied in my PM to you.
But science and experiments are really not country-dependant, are they?!
So, what?s the relevance of mixing national and international stuff with personal life and experiments? It will ?lead-out? nothing more than a bad-smelling pie.

Let?s stick to the facts, ok?
Hard, cold and replicable facts, if we can find any to be of use for a successful OU endeavor.

Tx,
Tinu

P.S. I?m not implying in the above that the members of OU.com are not nice. However, I believe that ones close contacts are more than that. This is my case, at least?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 08, 2007, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: tinu on September 08, 2007, 04:22:38 AM
Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 08, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
My dear Humbugger

I was just wondering why most of the skeptics seemed to be e-mail-hidden.

I will not write too much lines as my native language is not English.

I'm sure that you are clever enought to avoid some viro-gram (?) nuisance.

I also can guarantee you that giving your e_mail on this very forum will not bring you a load of spamming idiots. Why? just because you have to be member to see the email and the robots cannot be members. Actually the spams come froms the robots not from the forum members. The worst to be expected is to get a friendy email. That is all what I got... Most of the guys here are nice. Are they not?


Best

You are wrong.
I?m spammed at least 40-50 messages /day on every public e-mail address I?ve shared in the past.
Robots spamming is one easy problem. Human spamming is different because one can be very insistent.

I think the original poster is trying to point out you are not open for communication to us. Just like all the other skeptics.

Now you can try call us spammers for wanting to have a private conversation with you. But the subject was you not having an email address.

Given the liberty you take ranting people the least you can do is make an email address and check that every 12 months or so. But I guess that is to much to ask from you? You want to debunk things not talk about them. Just like all the other skeptics. Now you are debunking email, right after telling me how little messages my forum will get. Yeah right!

You claim perpetual motion doesn't exist because scientists investigated all devices and non of them worked. But everyone knows science is not the least interested, not even slightly tempted to investigate the likes if such. This means they never looked at any of the devices in the passed either.

Now you complain about spam from overunity.com ?? You don't have an email address listed, you have no way of knowing.

You skeptics just hate the idea of people answering their obnoxious questions. You are not going to tell me my personal message to you is spam before I write it, that's just delusional. If making an extra email address is to much to ask you really are not worth talking to.

It fits rather well with how you copy and past peoples entire websites into the forum. You do that in a very "so that no one has to visit their site" kind of way. You have no permission to republish things like that. It's considered theft. But in an email you can send content from as much sites combined as you like and it will always be appreciated. It's like having your fingers in your ears and going LALALALALALALALALLALALA Thats the impression you give.

But I must add, if it was just you it wouldn't be so weird.  The way all skeptics have no gmail,yahoo,hotmail box is the interesting bit. That alone should be reason enough for you to put something up? It gives the impression you are behind a corporate firewall doing a job that doesn't involve serious conversation rather the exact opposite.

Is that the impression you want to give?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 08, 2007, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 08, 2007, 08:06:03 AM
Quote from: tinu on September 08, 2007, 04:22:38 AM
Quote from: NerzhDishual on September 08, 2007, 12:48:38 AM
My dear Humbugger

I was just wondering why most of the skeptics seemed to be e-mail-hidden.

I will not write too much lines as my native language is not English.

I'm sure that you are clever enought to avoid some viro-gram (?) nuisance.

I also can guarantee you that giving your e_mail on this very forum will not bring you a load of spamming idiots. Why? just because you have to be member to see the email and the robots cannot be members. Actually the spams come froms the robots not from the forum members. The worst to be expected is to get a friendy email. That is all what I got... Most of the guys here are nice. Are they not?


Best

You are wrong.
I?m spammed at least 40-50 messages /day on every public e-mail address I?ve shared in the past.
Robots spamming is one easy problem. Human spamming is different because one can be very insistent.

I think the original poster is trying to point out you are not open for communication to us. Just like all the other skeptics.

Now you can try call us spammers for wanting to have a private conversation with you. But the subject was you not having an email address.

Given the liberty you take ranting people the least you can do is make an email address and check that every 12 months or so. But I guess that is to much to ask from you? You want to debunk things not talk about them. Just like all the other skeptics. Now you are debunking email, right after telling me how little messages my forum will get. Yeah right!

You claim perpetual motion doesn't exist because scientists investigated all devices and non of them worked. But everyone knows science is not the least interested, not even slightly tempted to investigate the likes if such. This means they never looked at any of the devices in the passed either.

Now you complain about spam from overunity.com ?? You don't have an email address listed, you have no way of knowing.

You skeptics just hate the idea of people answering their obnoxious questions. You are not going to tell me my personal message to you is spam before I write it, that's just delusional. If making an extra email address is to much to ask you really are not worth talking to.

It fits rather well with how you copy and past peoples entire websites into the forum. You do that in a very "so that no one has to visit their site" kind of way. You have no permission to republish things like that. It's considered theft. But in an email you can send content from as much sites combined as you like and it will always be appreciated. It's like having your fingers in your ears and going LALALALALALALALALLALALA Thats the impression you give.

But I must add, if it was just you it wouldn't be so weird.  The way all skeptics have no gmail,yahoo,hotmail box is the interesting bit. That alone should be reason enough for you to put something up? It gives the impression you are behind a corporate firewall doing a job that doesn't involve serious conversation rather the exact opposite.

Is that the impression you want to give?

The impression is yours, so it is your choice and I?ll not comment it.

My option of publicly talking with 7500+ members in the same time instead of chit-chatting one on one is mine. It?s my right to choose when and to whom I desire to develop a close conversation.

You have my PM, anyone has it.
It?s the functional equivalent of an e-mail address, isn?t it?
So, if you want private, go PM. What?s the barrier?!! Who?s stopping who?!

I can also develop the impression that all who share their e-mail want more than to be simply contacted. They want free publicity for one reason or another.
For instance, I might assume that you want free publicity for your website. So, like any webmaster counting every click, you might have an interest in putting your addresses here, right?
Other persons may want to sell something. Or to sell just adds by bringing visitors to their site. Or they want to promote their ideas, no matter what, in sites or blogs mixing politics, free energy, Iraq issues, illuminati, music, nasa, paranormal, physics, apocalypse, comedy, Tseung and so many others as well as affirmations like ?Newton was so wrong?, all into the same place. I mean, try at least making a sentence with those words, in you can. Wow, but that?s about the whole world, for Christ sake. Just an answer to every possible question, like a kind of God of our times. Why not simply downloading the Internet and place it there?!
Or maybe some are soo alone and pity in their life that they publish their e-mail into the free world just to let the others know they exist. Who knows?!

Anyway, your impressions and choices are yours and mine are mine.

One thing is for sure: I?m about completing the experiment with magnets and angular momentum, as per my post in http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.255.html and if you are a fair person, it?s about time for you to prepare removing your wrong conclusions posted at http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be and associated pages. I hope you can save the video, which is really nice, but remove also that Newton statement, which is untruthful and a real shame.

Of course, the above can wait for you to solve some more urgent issues humanity may have right now, but still, at least consider it on your agenda, will you?

Tx,
Tinu

P.S. I have yahoo, hotmail. MSN&Yahoo Messenger, Skype just to mention a few. Why would you need them? Isn?t it clear enough that there is not much to share between the two of us?
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 08, 2007, 02:39:44 PM
Quote from: tinu on September 08, 2007, 09:19:55 AM
  and if you are a fair person, it?s about time for you to prepare removing your wrong conclusions posted at http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be and associated pages.

Look the experiment involves 2 magnets and you ask 100 questions before doing it.

You go do that experiment holding those 2 magnets.

If you are to stupid to hold 2 magnets then don't try put that in my shoes.


I cant help you any further. You go do that exercise I called "IT CANT BE!!!" [link] (http://gabydewilde.googlepages.com/magnetmotor-it-cant-be) And to ask me to remove my website before you even do the experiment further confirms your intentions to spam me. You just get used to the page being there and many more to come. I already have thousands of pages and you cant do poop about it.

HAHAHAHAHA !!!

Don't think I haven't had 100 000 insults already about the page little boy. You anonymous cowards just make me laugh. With your lust to talk to all the members and instruct them what to think hidden behind your keyboard. Confirm being an adult first even humpy did that.

A PUSH AND A PULL of the same size equals REST

You are not going to debunk this inventor. This inventor is going to debunk you. Now go back to point 1 of the page and stop skipping exercises. point 1 says "hold the magnets in your hands" Not spam my subjects but do the experiment, I'm a great teacher, you are just a bad student.  ::)  I expect your full report on my desk first thing tomorrow morning Mr anonymous.

You are not getting your overunity diploma just jet.

This is not an oral exam. ::)
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: argona369 on September 09, 2007, 12:44:58 AM
Hum got it right Gaby,

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3246.0;attach=12549;image

You are entertaining.



Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 07, 2007, 11:39:42 PM

You seem to be in the disadvantage. Say give or take a few 100 years? Maybe thousand? You lost the discussion already. What makes you think you will have any success of any kind in any variation of the future in any ways of further kinds? Just thinking of me puts me in control of your every thought.


Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: gaby de wilde on September 09, 2007, 04:44:22 AM
Quote from: argona369 on September 09, 2007, 12:44:58 AM
Hum got it right Gaby,

Oh, bla bla bla?

You post doesn't even address the topic, you are upset from trying to annoy me and you complaining about it.  You are just a miserable failure at debunking my grand innovation. Maybe you can go back to begging me to delete my website?

You are clearly making an ass of yourself AGAIN. Why not piss off and go play with the other kiddies? Don't you have an xbox? Having a different user name really doesn't change anything.

It's still you, the anonymous coward.

HAHA *points finger*

push+pull = zero

Get used to it.
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: tinu on September 09, 2007, 11:46:53 AM
@ gaby de wilde,

Ok, gaby. It?s payback time.

Here I?ll enclose only 2 short movies, but just about enough to show your ignorance.

The setup shows a neo magnet suspended by an inelastic wire, followed by a horizontal mark (orange) and then an elastic wire (white color).
An identical neo magnet is let to free fall at various distances.

In the first movie there is a large linear horizontal momentum transfer between the falling magnet and the suspended one. Note that there is also a vertical momentum transfer. The horizontal mark clearly shows a vertical oscillation of about 2.5Hz, the resonance frequency of the setup in longitudinal oscillation.

In the second movie, there is very little horizontal momentum transfer, according to your wish. Still, there is vertical linear momentum transfer and the system continues to longitudinally oscillate with the same resonance frequency.

Summing up:
1. Newton is right. To any force there is always an equally opposing force.
2. Masking the above opposing force in the longitudinal tension in a wire does not mean it disappears; neither has it made you smarter nor an inventor. Your ?grand innovation? does not exist.
3. What it really makes you is being either an ignorant (if you?ll correct your wrong views) or an ignorant and a charlatan (if you?ll keep your liar statements in that lousy blog, knowing and being proved that they are false). The choice is yours, Gaby de Wilde: ignorant, charlatan or both?

As about the ?3-point interaction?, that is another nullity you published. Forces are not equal, as you wrongly assume. And Newton is right, of course.

Before saying good-bye, dear Gabriela, I?d like to add that your contribution to this forum equals a big zero, a push and a pull meaning a rest, exactly the state of your brain. Let it rest, don?t push and pull because you?ll stress it for nothing.

That overunity diploma, you talk about above, shove it? It worth?s nothing.

I would finally say that with words like moron, idiot, stupid, liar, miserable, coward, ass etc. etc. used to address various fine members here, you just go all the way back to your mama and find out why she made you that way.

I?m done with you, Gabriela darling.

Tinu
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: argona369 on September 09, 2007, 01:56:59 PM
>Maybe you can go back to begging me to delete my website?

Sorry, you have me confused with someone else.
(not surprisingly)

Argona369/solarpower4321


Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 09, 2007, 04:44:22 AM
Quote from: argona369 on September 09, 2007, 12:44:58 AM
Hum got it right Gaby,

Oh, bla bla bla?

You post doesn't even address the topic, you are upset from trying to annoy me and you complaining about it.  You are just a miserable failure at debunking my grand innovation. Maybe you can go back to begging me to delete my website?

You are clearly making an ass of yourself AGAIN. Why not piss off and go play with the other kiddies? Don't you have an xbox? Having a different user name really doesn't change anything.

It's still you, the anonymous coward.

HAHA *points finger*

push+pull = zero

Get used to it.
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: NerzhDishual on September 11, 2007, 03:34:31 PM
Hi blokes,

Giving his e-mail adress or not? OK.OK. Okay. That could be a question.

Worse:
Should anybody have a 'genuine' Web site (I mean a genuine name like http://overunity.com (http://overunity.com) or http://freenrg.info (http://freenrg.info)) your can get the  first name, the name, the  e-mail, the snail mail adress and the phone number of this  very web-name-owner.

The web is definitely not not so 'secure' and 'confidential'.
Just google "Whois" and enjoy.

As an (occasional) journalist I use this 'trick' to get in touch with (sometimes surprised) people.

Best
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 11, 2007, 10:46:08 PM
Bang on the money Nerzh, it works!

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: Wow! Floatation machine!
Post by: molux on September 21, 2007, 12:30:01 PM
Hy,

So sorry, it's not work !
look the demonstration here:
http://www.syscoil.org/index.php?cmd=nav&cid=62 (http://www.syscoil.org/index.php?cmd=nav&cid=62)
(sorry, in french, but the schematics can be undestand)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syscoil.org%2Fmedias%2Fproduits%2Fg_1_full.jpg&hash=018647a3b7fc68b5a728ec26dd029034dd36cbad)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syscoil.org%2Fmedias%2Fproduits%2Fg_2_full.jpg&hash=4d42da1426ef4141f852dfa1bf7e508827bc2ac5)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syscoil.org%2Fmedias%2Fproduits%2Fg_3_full.jpg&hash=b819f4e3f8635a7a206bd4b0e9f9a37093b321f4)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syscoil.org%2Fmedias%2Fproduits%2Fg_4_full.jpg&hash=d8af19bf42d95b573a801c1ffac0c0579a7a5d0b)

(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syscoil.org%2Fmedias%2Fproduits%2Fg_5_full.jpg&hash=3bb443d93c9fb6dbab9339f0212ba4409ddd9275)

If someone can know how to get more energy when the buble go down than the energy demand by the pump that complement the water level on the top of the water column

Molux