OK
HOW I WHIIL START I HAVE NO TIME TO BE IN THE FORUM BUT I LIKE TO SAY SOME THINGS
FIRST
1 THE TPU S.M IS NOT NEED TRANSIS . OR SOME TUBES ONLY KICK OF WIRES THAT IS THAT
2 EVRETHING IS YOU NEED IS TO SEE VIDEO READ SOME PDF AND LEARN SOME STUFF AND IN THE END YOU FIND THE WAY 3 SM SAY HIS TPU NEED MAGNET TO START AND IS TRUE PEOPLE MAKE ANTHER STEP UP DONT LOOK BACK
I HAVE SEND SOME WRD OS SM VIDEO CLIP AND IS SAY <<< WIRES IS IMPORTANT AND COILS IN THE OPERATIONS >>THIS IS TELL THE TRUE HOW IS POSIBLE
ONLY WIRE AND MAG. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I KNOW WHILL SEND TO ALL VIDEO TO SEE BUT WIT SECRET
I HAVE SEND MANY EXPLANATIONS IN <<<<<< DAYS AND I DONT EXPLANE NOTHING HOW YOU DON T ANDERSTEND AND SM ISAID FIND THE WAY TO MOVE ELETRONES IN WIRE IS SIMPLE NO ELEKTRONICS ONLY WIRE I TEELING THE TRUE SEE MAKE EXPERMENTS AND SEE
THE LITLE HELP YES THE TPU MUST BE SINUS WAVE ONLY SINUS WAVE IS GET TRUE POWER SM IS TELL SOME GOOD THINGS TO FIND THE WAY BUT YOU ARE ATELL LOSE THE WAY YOU LOOK FOR PDF FOR VIDEO OR SOMETHING PIC WHIT 3 MEGA PIXEL TO ZOOM WHAT IS INSAID
LOOK IS SO SIMPLE IS LIKE TR . BUT ANTHER TR .
now how could this work??
hummm
i see only 1 way this can work and your coils must be tuned the the harmonics of the magnet
does it vibrate with the mag?
ist
LOOK THIS
I SAID MANY TIME TO FIND THE WAY WHIT THIS
MAKE ONE KICK TO MAKE 1000 OR MORE KICK YOU FIRST KICK IS YOU PUT THR ENERGY IN THEN NOTHING ELSE I SAID LIKE ANTHER TR YOU MAKE NO SIMPLE FIRST PUT DC VOLTAGE ONLY ONE SEC. TO MAKE 1000 KICK YOU ASK YOU SELF HOW IS POSIBLE I TELL YOU I SPOSIBLE AND THE SM SAY COILS IN THE OPERATIONS AND WIRES IMPORTANT NOTHIG ELSE BEALIVET ME I TEEL THE TRUE I HAV MADE AND IS THE TRUE SIMPLE EXP.. IF YOU PUT THE DC V OLTAGE IN THE SIMP[LE TRFO . IN THE SECUNDARY COILS YOU GET ONLY ONE KICK AND THAT IS THE EROR HOW YOU WHILL MAKE OSCILATOR YOU MAKE THE EROR THE OSCILATORS MAKE SOME HZ AND THE OUT COILS IS PRODUCED THE SAME OUT HZ AND THAT IS EROR
THE POINT OF THIS IS YOU TO INCRASE THE HZ OR KICK WHIT ONE KIC AND IF YOU FIND HOW YOU CAN EASY ANDERSTEN D HOW IS POSIBLE LOOK THE OLD PATENT AND OLD FORMULES YOU CAN FIND SOME AND LOOKK AGAAIN THE VIDEOS OF SM AND SEE
Hi Macedonia,
when will you finally post a video of your design or
at least a few pictures ?
@ mac
damm dude all i can say is damm good work
ha!
so well ;D
i will not say any more
@ mac i dont think you should post a vid i think this should remain the hidden secreat ;) why ?? when you get it it will make you feel good!!
why give it to a bunch of people that have no desire to understand it?? they must learn as many have ;)
that is the sm way
Look dude stop encouraging people to be shady and hide things, you know where that leads in life.... nowhere. Regardless of what you think don't tell others to hide there findings from good hearted people here that are working towards common goals. Has anything good ever come in your life from deception IS? I don't think so, I sure know it hasen't in mine, think about that long and hard when you tell people to hide things. This isn't a time for cowards that hide , this generation needs to come together so we have a future and comments like those don't help! If you had a 23 year old son who worked a full time job as an IT and is learning Electrical engineering on the side would you hide books from him ... thats kinda how i feel when you say stuff like that in these forums and i'm spending my few hrs or free time learning and experimenting.
Joe
Hi Macedonia CD,
Great to hear you found all this out! Sounds like you're a clever guy!
Maybe you are willing to tell us what patent you are refering to. That way you don't need to tell us anything but we can still work from there.
Hope to hear from you soon!
regards,
Robert
hi its me again
@all
Macedonia CD is an electronics engineer and TV repair man from Macedonia. He says he has built the above device and put in 2 watts and got 60 watts out. The ring in the middle is the collector and it is wound the same as the other 4 coils that surround it. He did not record the length of the wire on the coils, he just optimises the length according to the output it produces. The coils are all copper wire 1.6mm single strand, though I think he believes Litz would work, the windings are standard.
He is working with very basic equipment, an old oscilloscope with no readings, just a wave form and calibrated glass screen. His country is poor and research materials are very expensive. It appears a decent modern scope would cost him about two years wages! This a great source of frustration for him, he is very creative, yet limited by his circumstances. He says there are many more like him who would like to invent and cannot for the same reasons.
He has many ideas and I have attached the documents and patents that he has been referring to recently, he has others which he uses too. He is also interested in the anti-gravity work of John Searle. The 'Rene-Rator' jpeg is a circuit that he really likes which was posted on the forum some time ago, I believe.
When speaking to him or reading his posts, CU means copper in his language, and he tends to us the letter HO when referring to coils. It is best to try and describe something with several different basic words when communicating with him. He is a bright guy and it is well worth the effort talking with him.
Acerzw
Macedonia CD,
Would you explain a bit more about how you think the TPU works?
I see that you have a pic controller to switch each coil one at the time in a circle to create a rotating field in the collector coil, and it makes sense.
How would you create a rotating field with only coils and no electronics (maybe a diode only) ?
How would you create the time delay to create more pulses (or kicks) ?
Please tell us some more.
@tink
Mac's device is based on SM's words but is not meant to be a replication of the TPU, just another way to do the same thing.
@Macedonia CD
It would indeed be interesting to hear your ideas on the TPU Mac.
Acerzw
Hi MAC
Is it correct all 5 toroids are the same?
Also same number of CU turns for all toroids?
Is it correct that the collector toroid is **NOT** looping inside the 4 exciter toroids?
The collector toroid does not go through any of the 4 toroids, collector goes through none
of the 4 toroids.
Earl
Quote from: Earl on November 12, 2007, 07:43:03 AM
Hi MAC
Is it correct all 5 toroids are the same?
Also same number of CU turns for all toroids?
Is it correct that the collector toroid is **NOT** looping inside the 4 exciter toroids?
The collector toroid does not go through any of the 4 toroids, collector goes through none
of the 4 toroids.
Earl
Hi Earl,
I don't see why the collector would not go through the four control coils? Where do you base your question on? Am I missing something
regards
Robert
:)
hello i beleave mac has created a magnetic vortex form the 4 coils all they do is spinn the collector coil is inside the vortex that is it
90 deg copulping to the collector from controls weather inside or out side the controls :)
does he induct current in the collector or does he capture the re with a collector coil and a diode and a cap ;D
hummm try it both ways lol!
i will build today my ver of this style set up lol
i will use 4 iron cores for my controls i will wire a collector in side
simple
all out now those that know just build and show
it now is show and tell ;)
ist
hears a question that must be answered
what is RE i think it stands for returning engery lol
HI
REPLI TO INOVATION
LOOK IS NOT A HAVE INDUCTIONS ON ATHER SAID OF MY 4 COILS
IS YES ROTATIONS COILS
I SEE DONT ANDERSTAN ME WEEL
SIMPLE MY PESIMIST <<INOVATIONS >> IS LIKE YOU HAVE SMALL MAG PER. HO MAKE A TURNS AROUND THE ATHER COILS HMMMM
YOU MAKE SIMPLE TEST AND YOU WHILL SEE THIS OK
IF YOU READ SOME OF MAILS FROM SM AND HI SAID MAG WHIT SPEED LIKE SHOT GUN
WHAT YOU THING IF YOU MOVE THIS SMALL MG WHIT THIS SPEED IN THE SIMPLE WIRE
HAAAA MORE WHATT
IS HAVE ANTHER WAY TO GET MORE PWER YOU MAKE TEST THIS
YOU GET SOME WIRE CU 12 INCH LENGHT AND MOVE MAG PER. THIS WIRE PUT IN THE SCOPE IN LOW METRES AND SEE THE THERE
YOU MOVE FIRST LEFT AND RIGHT
YOU SEE THE SCOPE IS GOING UP AND DOWN IS OK
BUT WHAT IS HAPEND IF YOU MAKE MOVING MAG AROUND THIS WIRE YOU SEE THE SCOPE YOU SEE MUCH VOLTAGE WHIT THE SAME SPEED
THEN YOU SEE A TEEL WHAT YOU SEE
ANTHER TIME I SAID TO YOU WAY YOU ARE MAKE A MYSTAKE YOU HAVE PUT MORE ENERGY IN THIS COILS THAT IS WRONG IF YOU ARE GOOD MATHEM OR ELKTRONICS MAN YOU FIND THE WAY HOW YOU TO MAKE 4 COIL TO PRODUCED MORE MAG FILD WHIT VERY SMAL ELECTRIC CURENT 8) 8) 8)THE POINT IS THIS
SM WORDS <<< SMALL MAG WHIT HIGH SPEED THAT IS THE ANSFER>>
SM WORDS <<<1000 PIECS OF WIRE IS THE SAME OR SERILAL OR PARALEL ??? LET SAY PARALEL 1000 LONG 12 INCHLENHT WHIT SPEED YOU IMAGEN THIS POWER
I >> I DONT SAY YOU ARE SAY THE INDUCTIONS OF 4 COILS THE MOVING FILD ;) ;) ;)
OHHH MY GOD THE SM ALL TIME IS SAID THE TRUE
WHIT SOME SECRET WORDS
REPLY FOR THE ANTHER GUY <<TINK>>
FOR HOW IS WORK TPU
I THING THE SM IS MADE 2 OR 3 DIFERNTS TPU
THE FIRST TPU WHIT ONE MAG IS HO DONT WORK UP SAID DOWN IS LIKE THIS
LET SEE
THE EARTH IS MOVING LET SAY IN THE LEFT SAID OK AND HIS FREK OF MOVING IS 7,3 HZ THE SM SAID HIS DIVICES WORK 7,8 HZ CLOUSE TO THE EARTH HZ
THE POI OF HOW IS START WHIT MAG IF YOU HAVE 2 COILS HO WHIL MAKE ELKTRO MAGNET FILD JUST A SECOND AND COILS IS CUT IN NOT PARALEL NOT SERIAL ATHER WAY << PARALE LIKE X > WHAT WHILL HAPEND THE ONE COILS IS MAKE ELK. MAG FIL THE ANTHER COIL MAKE ANTHER ELK MAG FILD BUT THIS COILS IS MPUT IN THE IRON METAL AND THEN THE 1 COIL AND 2 COIL IS HIS POLES IS PUT IN THIS WAY <<LIKE N POLE TO N POLE THE ATHER SAID S POLE TO SPOLE >> THIS EFECTK IS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO MAG AND YOU CAN PUT IN TOGETHER
AND TIS EFCT IS POSIBILYTY TO MAKE SOME OSCILATION S IN THE SAME COILS THIS SIMPLE PUSH JUST SECOND IS GOOD TO START THE OSCILATIONS AND WHEN IS OSCIOTAIONS BEGAIN IN THE SAME COILS IS PRODUCED THE INDUCTIONS OR SOME VOLTAGE AND THIS VOLTAGE IS HAVE ABLE TO PRODUCED AGAIN THE EL. MAG FIL AND THIS FILDS S AND S ...N AND AN AGAING SAME PROCES
WAY IS NOT WORK UP SAID DOWN A SAID TWO FREKFENCY THE SAME HZ IS GO TO 0 OSCILATIONS THE MOVING OF EARTH MUST BE THE SAME MOVING OF MAG OF TPU
ANTHER THE MATERILASIS VERY IMPORTAT TO THIS TPU
THE COIL 2 MUST BET PUT IN THE SPECIAL MATERIAL HO HAVE ABLE TO MAKE AND TRANSFER THE MAG FORCE SO FAST TO ATHE MATERIAL HO IS ABLE TO CHARGE MAG FILD HO HAVE SEND THE FIRS MATERIAL
TRANSFER MATERIAL IS ABLE FAST TO SEND ELKTRO ,MAG FORCES TO ANTHER MATERILAL HO HA ABLE TO KEEP THIS MAG SOME SECOND
TRANSER FAST MATERIAL IS <<< SOFT IRON THIS MATERIAL IS SEND MAG FILD BUT DONT KEEPT TO HIM MAG FILD >> A MATERIL HO KEEP THE MAG FILD SOME SECOND IS IRON SIMPLE .......
THIS IS THE VERY IMPORTANT MATERIALS TO MAKE PROCES BEAGEN
IF YOU HAVE 2 SAME MATERIAL THE PROCES WHILL NOT START THE SAME MOMENT WHILL END WHITT NO RESOLTS IF YOU PUT 2 MATERILAS ONE HO KEEPS THE MAG FILD THE ANTHER HO NOT KEEP THE MG FILD AND EASY TO TRANSFER FAST AND EASY CATCH THE MAG FILD THEN THE PROCES WHIL START TO OSCILATION LIKE PERPETUMOBILE
THE ATHER DIVICES I MEAN LIKE 10 BULB AND 800 SM TPU
IS ANTHER
SM IS CREATING ELTRO MOVING MAG FILD WHIT HIGH SPEED LIKE A SAID UP PIC 16F
I SOON SEND TO SEE THE PIC OF MY TPU OR SOME THING ELSE
THANKS FOR READ OF MY
THANKS <<<<<< ROBERT >>>>>>> I SEE NOW THE MANS IS INTERSTED FOR ME OF MY THINGS 8) 8) 8)
TO INOVATION
I SEE YOU HAVE SOFT IRON OF YOU PIC
IS FOR SPEAKERS AND YOU TRAED TO MAKE TPU
BUT WHER IS THE ATHER METAL CORE
I SEE ONE SOFT METAL
;D ;D ::) ::) ;D ;D
HEY INOVATION I
LOOK THIS HA HA HA
Nice coils those
:)
hello
what you see in my pictures are just some stuff i threw togather from what i had laying around the iron are off of speaker magnets i was only checking out emerys lock concept the goal was not to pull power from any of thease setups only to see what happins yes the lock that is all i wanted to see the 7/8 circle does not lock well it has 1700 winds of 28ga on it the one that is cut in half has 600 winds a coil of 28ga i used 12dv 2 amp to lock them togather ;D
yep so it works just as emery and leedskalain said
i have been building many things and in time i will post them but not b4 i understand them ;)
just playing as usual ;D
ist
dont ya know my buddy JT came over for a visit he is a cnc programer ;D says he can dorp a few things in the mill for me at no cost ;D
just have to waite and see what what i build next lol!!
I Like His Motivation to tell,but it has got me interested because i know there are less confused thoughts of wrong assumptions,and i know there are certainly rock solid certain thoughts in those words that you typed and that energy from your thoughts in those words which hit me and i know they are certain.
I Have Held back on this tpu topic for such a time until this point,
Now i would like to know how to build Macedonias Version of the TPU,
How would you explain the step by step guide to a Person who is not an electric engineer, to building a tpu , it should not be hard at all , if you tell the person who hardly knows about electric circuits,
More like a do this and do that guide and then fire it up guide, then going through all the know hows about it, and that is what i am seeking, and it seem's Macedonia has it.
Of Course there has been alot of brain storming,would you come up with a certain Mechanical Step by step and what tools to build a tpu, i would just get lost in the seeking confuseion of the topics of some wrong assumptions, but their is certain talk here that i am attracted to,
so that i would use that to make one my self and test and post results.
I Am still lost in this because i just read that the tpu has 3 etc,etc,etc,and the lack of certainness is the barrier to not doing, but This kind of certain from Macedonia is what i need to be able to do.
I Do feel a bit odd saying this,but its true.
where would someone point me to understanding certain tpu circuit, to match Macedonia's?
i would Appreciate it.
Because i need the step by step chain to activate and get of my back side and do it,
or just lay out a step by step (not understand how it works) simple guide or what to make what etc,etc, like how you would think it and what lengths etc, and a quick why explanation.
Thanks for mentioning though as i know i have seen things not things should normaly not being seen.
@Macedonia,
I notice you are using a PLC to control some of these bits.
Just out of interest,
1. What language is it using?
2. Can you repeat here the first 5 lines of the code?
Thanks,
ERS
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 14, 2007, 07:14:26 PM
THE EARTH IS MOVING LET SAY IN THE LEFT SAID OK AND HIS FREK OF MOVING IS 7,3 HZ THE SM SAID HIS DIVICES WORK 7,8 HZ CLOUSE TO THE EARTH HZ
THE POI OF HOW IS START WHIT MAG IF YOU HAVE 2 COILS HO WHIL MAKE ELKTRO MAGNET FILD JUST A SECOND AND COILS IS CUT IN NOT PARALEL NOT SERIAL ATHER WAY << PARALE LIKE X > WHAT WHILL HAPEND THE ONE COILS IS MAKE ELK. MAG FIL THE ANTHER COIL MAKE ANTHER ELK MAG FILD BUT THIS COILS IS MPUT IN THE IRON METAL AND THEN THE 1 COIL AND 2 COIL IS HIS POLES IS PUT IN THIS WAY <<LIKE N POLE TO N POLE THE ATHER SAID S POLE TO SPOLE >> THIS EFECTK IS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO MAG AND YOU CAN PUT IN TOGETHER
AND TIS EFCT IS POSIBILYTY TO MAKE SOME OSCILATION S IN THE SAME COILS THIS SIMPLE PUSH JUST SECOND IS GOOD TO START THE OSCILATIONS AND WHEN IS OSCIOTAIONS BEGAIN IN THE SAME COILS IS PRODUCED THE INDUCTIONS OR SOME VOLTAGE AND THIS VOLTAGE IS HAVE ABLE TO PRODUCED AGAIN THE EL. MAG FIL AND THIS FILDS S AND S ...N AND AN AGAING SAME PROCES
WAY IS NOT WORK UP SAID DOWN A SAID TWO FREKFENCY THE SAME HZ IS GO TO 0 OSCILATIONS THE MOVING OF EARTH MUST BE THE SAME MOVING OF MAG OF TPU
ANTHER THE MATERILASIS VERY IMPORTAT TO THIS TPU
THE COIL 2 MUST BET PUT IN THE SPECIAL MATERIAL HO HAVE ABLE TO MAKE AND TRANSFER THE MAG FORCE SO FAST TO ATHE MATERIAL HO IS ABLE TO CHARGE MAG FILD HO HAVE SEND THE FIRS MATERIAL
TRANSFER MATERIAL IS ABLE FAST TO SEND ELKTRO ,MAG FORCES TO ANTHER MATERILAL HO HA ABLE TO KEEP THIS MAG SOME SECOND
TRANSER FAST MATERIAL IS <<< SOFT IRON THIS MATERIAL IS SEND MAG FILD BUT DONT KEEPT TO HIM MAG FILD >> A MATERIL HO KEEP THE MAG FILD SOME SECOND IS IRON SIMPLE .......
THIS IS THE VERY IMPORTANT MATERIALS TO MAKE PROCES BEAGEN
IF YOU HAVE 2 SAME MATERIAL THE PROCES WHILL NOT START THE SAME MOMENT WHILL END WHITT NO RESOLTS IF YOU PUT 2 MATERILAS ONE HO KEEPS THE MAG FILD THE ANTHER HO NOT KEEP THE MG FILD AND EASY TO TRANSFER FAST AND EASY CATCH THE MAG FILD THEN THE PROCES WHIL START TO OSCILATION LIKE PERPETUMOBILE
THE ATHER DIVICES I MEAN LIKE 10 BULB AND 800 SM TPU
IS ANTHER
Hi Macedonia,
I try to understand your explanation. Are you telling us that we need 2 coils, not parallel and not serial. The coils need to be CROSSED? like X ????
The core is made from 2 different materials, yes? Half is iron? (holds magnetic field?) Other half is different? Copper (CU) ????
You put in energy in these coils. Coils start oscillation??? North pole -->><<-- North pole and South pole -->> <<--South pole
Coils are fighting??? 1 kick --> coils fight ----> loads of kicks???
Is this what you are trying to tell??
Let me know please....
Robert
Hi Macedonia,
Like this???
Robert
n/a
Enough for me in theories, building time now, and its time for me now to practice what I preach......by doing
This ring was made from nylon cutting board material, there will be several more I will be building like the photo you see, then ill see what effect two rings have in all of this. The more I keep looking at the SM videos now and from long ago, its fact that there several things stand out.:-
1. two rings
2. a distance inbetween these two rings
3. magnets placed
4. 4 sections of coil
So with this in mind, I will be working to that effect.
:)
Ive made the two rings, showing both sides what they look like, there's 4 connectors mounted on the disk, the 4 sections of coil are terminated here, I retract information i mentioned in this post, I have 3 multimeters, two of them were reading .8ohms each coil, but the other multimeter was showing .2ohms each section, the .2ohms is about right, because in total i was reading .8ohms, almost 1 ohm.
So different multimeters can skew results, now its onto the cro.
:D
@IS, AND DOM,
INTERESTING!!!!
lol
sam
ps: please tell more
Hi super sam, from SM:- . The technology is not magic and is in fact uses simple electronic concepts to achieve the demonstrated results. Therein lays the rub...
I'll be building two larger rings exactly like what you see there, same configuration.
Then i have at least some units to play with, I was looking at high voltage multiplier cct, this is the next step, the reason i say this is if you think back to the story SM mentioned about the imploding tv set which killed a young boy, well tv sets have high voltage systems in them, so its logical to conclude that this maybe the other piece of the puzzle. Plus the output dispalyed on SM multimeter is DC in nature.
I Have a friend doing some research in cold fusion, using high voltage multiplier to produce spark, he placed magnet ontop of the firing cylinder, which was wrapped on the outside with a coil and he noticed this 8hz hash.......so this is a good place to start.
keep the faith
Dom
be wise >:(
as i have herd people have been hurt in the past
we dont need more do we?
if you notice the discharge in sm's videos.......... i hear it can bite
be wise 8)
IST
1 word of advice TESLA ......
rubber gloves yes i know, and respect of things unknown, i do have electronics background, and electrical, but in any case, cannot become complacent.
Quote from SM:-
necessary to make the demonstrations you see on the video tapes available today. So in many ways we have early RCA color TV engineers to thank for my discovery of the power generator. I am sure they are all dead now but they did contribute.
So I did some research and found:-
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/science/high_voltage/voltage_mult.htm
Three stage CW multipliers, commonly known as tripler, were used in most of the early B&W and colour TV's. The voltage drops rapidly as a function of the output current. In some applications, this is an advantage. The output V/I characteristic is roughly hyperbolic, so it serves well for charging capacitor banks to high voltages at roughly constant charging power. Furthermore, the ripple on the output, particularly at high loads, is quite high.
Increasing the frequency can dramatically reduce the ripple, and the voltage drop under load, which accounts for the popularity of driving a multiplier stack with a switching power supply. A clever way to reduce ripple is to implement a full wave voltage doubler as shown below. This effectively doubles the number of charging cycles per second, and thus cuts down the voltage drop and ripple factor. The input is usually fed from a centre tapped ac transformer or MOSFET H-bridge circuits.
You can find more detailed information regarding this subject by visiting Blaze Labs :-http://www.blazelabs.com/e-exp15.asp:-
The full wave CW
Increasing the frequency can dramatically reduce the ripple, and the voltage drop under load, which accounts for the popularity of driving a multipler stack with a switching power supply. A clever way to reduce ripple is to implement a full wave voltage doubler as shown below. This effectively doubles the number of charging cycles per second, and thus cuts down the voltage drop and ripple factor. The input is usually fed from a centre tapped ac transformer or MOSFET H-bridge circuits.
QuoteTHE COIL 2 MUST BET PUT IN THE SPECIAL MATERIAL HO HAVE ABLE TO MAKE AND TRANSFER THE MAG FORCE SO FAST TO ATHE MATERIAL HO IS ABLE TO CHARGE MAG FILD HO HAVE SEND THE FIRS MATERIAL
This sounds like yin-yang ... nature always like to balance either in 3D or nD. The flow of electricity is a balancing act ...
@MACEDONIA CD
this is a very very interesting work !!! :)
BRAVO & HVALA ;)
HEY TO ALL
I DONT TELL ANYMORE NOTHING OF THIS MY REPLY WHAS 7 DAYS AGO AND IM DISAPOINTED AND NOW I WHILL KEEP THIS TO MY PRIVATE ONLY I READ NOTHING ELSE
IF I HERT SOME THERE IM SORY I DONT TEEL ANY BODY ELSE AND I HAD NO TELL I GARANTUEDET <W<INV>>> I TEEL NOTYHING I GIVET MY WORDS :-X :-X :-X
Hi Macedonia CD
I understand that you are disappointed. You try to tell us something and we are not reacting? But on November 16 I left two messages. One with a drawing and one with questions about your theory.
I don't see any answer of you to those messages. I guess you're not the only one who is disappointed.... :-\
So maybe you can still comment on my questions and drawing????
Robert
Hi Macedonia CD,
Please post a drawing or pic of your setup, because one pic can do much more than 1000 word to tell us how it is done. The control coils are really outside of the collector coil ? Then its some very new mode to induce current. I have never seen like this. Oh yeah and I'm from hungary, not too far from Macedonia...
Bye.
Goodaye Mac,man why are you dissapointed, I haven't seen a working tpu from you, just some comments, that seem that we all must be pretty dumb. It's a pity really, well i guess everyone else comes from richer countries, here and couldn't be bothered to find the answers that you came up with.
Well I've been working on my own using the information at hand, his another post to cement the direction ill be heading, read my previous posts in this thread, again from SM:-
Think of this:
Energy conversion is different when you consider speed. 12 volts at 100 amps is slow and the energy can not dissipate quickly enough to kill you by discharge. But, it is a lot of energy especially if converted to speed. Reduce that 100 amps to 100 mA but increase the voltage (speed) to 100,000 volts and you can electrocute someone!
My unit operates on these principles. Think about all those frequencies traveling inside the collector coil and how they interact.....
END
Again all, think about HV, and what effects that would have in a tpu, think of what SM said about early color tv engineers who contributed to the power generator, in a indirect way, think about the imploding tv set, what does it all tie into.....it's high voltage = speed
don't be too disheartened by Mr Mac, If i were genuine, i wouldn't play silly games.
Read my previous posts, think of what im saying, go through some stuff if you have the info on SM, trust me i've known about this for awhile now, and it's never left me, it's time for me now, and for us all.
Dom
i must say it has been a long but enjoyable road
@dom you raise points that should not go a miss it is christmas after all ;D
hey if you cant get power i hear they make good heaters lol! ;)
isteam!! ruin2ne??
refer to why they used those high voltage multipliers, they used em in particle accelerators, the tpu is nothing but that....
particle accelerator......The multiple frequencies SM talks about are the by product.
:-http://www.powerlabs.org/cascade.htm
read up on the two gentleman who came up with the high voltage multiplier :-
quote from the link above......'They were, and still are, used in x-ray tubes, particle accelerators, electrostatic devices, and many other devices making use of very high voltages at DC values...............'
I've done my homework and i truley believe this is the way to do it, further testing to follow, I have also a good mate that will be helping out, and were both going to hit this with enthusiasm and vigor.
Merry Xmas to All
Dom
jep
Iron and steel
Iron is the most common element associated with being attracted to to a magnet. Steel is also a ferromagnetic material. It is an alloy or combination of iron and several other metals, giving it greater hardness than iron, as well as other specialized properties. Because of its hardness, steel retains magnetism longer than iron.
maybe maybe
HI TO ALL
Hi Macedonia. How are you lighting up your Christmas tree this year?
AM
@MACI wish all the best to you and your family in 2008.You said a long time ago, that you have some photos and a PDF to post to the forum. But I never saw anything. But you notice that even if you do not keep your promise, I do not get angry and excited. Maybe your experiments never produced anything interesting. It is so much easier for you to post a graphic or a photo instead of trying to formulate sentences in English. So I am very confused why you don't post images and photos ????
You tell someone about 5 toroids of same material, then you tell some one else about one toroid with 2 different materials, so I am totally confused and I lose interest.
Do not try to explain in English what you are doing, just use images and photos. It is easier for you, and easier for us.
Earl
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on December 17, 2007, 08:20:46 PM
HI TO ALL
@MACEDONIA CD
hello Macedonia, Do you have any improvments in your design? I was hoping you will continue posting in here, please!!! Your ideas seam very interesting.
Fausto.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 29, 2007, 07:49:48 PM
HEY TO ALL
I DONT TELL ANYMORE NOTHING OF THIS MY REPLY WHAS 7 DAYS AGO AND IM DISAPOINTED AND NOW I WHILL KEEP THIS TO MY PRIVATE ONLY I READ NOTHING ELSE
IF I HERT SOME THERE IM SORY I DONT TEEL ANY BODY ELSE AND I HAD NO TELL I GARANTUEDET <W<INV>>> I TEEL NOTYHING I GIVET MY WORDS :-X :-X :-X
Try not to feel insulted or anything.
Often we read, then spend time absorbing (& possibly trying out the ideas).
No immediate reply doesn't mean no interest.
Also - for me, I was reading these threads each night for ages, but then Nov/Dec came - Work went ballistic, Family was very busy, & I've hardly had time to look at them until now.
Don't loose hope or inspiration...
Jeff.
HI TO ALL
CEEP GOING FRONT DONT LOOK BACK <<<THE BACK IS THE ANSFER>>
CREATED MAG. FILD AND MOVE FAST TO ANTHER COIL
HOW TO MOVE ELKTRO MAG.FILD WHIT OUT MOVING <<<<HMMM>>>>
LIKE ONE WAY ROAD TO GET <<DIRECT CURENTS>>
I FIND THE ANSFER YOU LOOK THE ANSFER NOW 8) 8) 8)
BOOM <<<<IS POSIBLE TO MOVE ELKTRONES IN THE WIRE WHIT SOUND >>>
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :o :o :o
Hi MAC
and all the best.
Does that mean magnet to sound to vibration to magnet? Nice loop.
tesla wireless system?
HI
OH I POSIBLE TO MOVE ELEKTRONES IN THE WIRE IN THE ATHERE WAY ;) ;) ;)
LIKE YOU HAVE THE GLASS FOR DRINK AND PUT THE SAME FREKFENCY LIKE THIS GLASS AND THEN THE GLASS WHILL EXPLODE HMMMMMM
<<WIRE SIMPLE HAS ELKTRONES HO IS NOT DOING NOTHING HMMM ONLY IS TO FIND FREKFENCY OF THAT WIRE AND HIT WHIT FREKFENCY <<< 10^8 IS FREKFENCY OF
ELKTRONE TO ELKTRONE >>>
SECRET ,,,,,,,,,,IS AND SOUND IS POWER THING TO BRAKED SOMTHING AND MOVE SOMTHING LIKE ELKTRONES >>>>>>>........ ;) ;) ;) :o :o :o
SMALL SOUND MAKE BIG THINGS TO THING OF THAT POSIBILYTY\
IMAGEN THIS
IF YOU HAVE SIMPLE SPEAKER LIKE WOFER AND YOU PUT LET SAY ABOUT 1 WATT TO THIS SPEAKER AND LET SAY THE MOVING OF THIS SPEKER COIL WHILL BE 1mm <<up and down>>> OK
WHAT IF YOU PUT TO THE SPEAKER MAGNET MORE PERMANENET MAGNET WHIT THE SAME INPUT ENERGY OF 1 WATT THE COIL OF THE SPEAKER WHILL BE MOVE LET SAY 2 mm up and down>> hmm and you put more and more strong permanenet magnet to this speaker the moving of this coil whill be more and more strong and powerfull
ONLY WHILL CONSTANT INPUT ENERGY YOU GET MORE STRONG MOVING THE COIL THE ENERGY WHILL BE MORE AND MORE TO THE NO LIMITH ONLY WHIT SMALL 1 WATT IN ENERGY YOU GET MEXANICALL ENERGY OR ELKTROMAGNET TRANSFER OF ENERGY ;) ;) ;)
ANSFER TO ANTHER THING AND SECRET
THE KASKADE FOR TV IS TO INCREASE THE VOLTAGE
AND THE << LMD>> DIVICES INCREASE THE ELEKTROMAGNET FILD NO VOLTAGE AND IF YOU HAVE LET SAY 1 VOLT WHIT LET SAY 1 TESLA ELKTROMAGNET FILD TO THE COIL AND YOU PUT MANY LMD DIVICE THERE AND YOU CAN GET MORE STRONG ELKTROMAGNET FILD THIS ELKTROMAGNET FILD WHILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE OUT ENERGY LIKE KASKADE << IF YOU PUT DIODE MORE AND MORE IN SERIAL YOU CAN INCREASE THE VOTAGE MORE AND MORE 1000 TIME MORE THEN IN VOLTAGE >>>>
IS THE SAME THE <<LMD >> IS INCREASE THE ELKTROMAGNET FILD THEN IN THE END OF THI S LMD OF THE LAST EXIT COIL YOU GET STRONG ELKTROMAGNET COIL THIS COIL WHILL BE THE PRIMARY
THE ORDENERY TRANFORMER IS LIKE IF THIS TRANSFORMER HAS LET SAY 1 TESLA ELKTROMAGNET FILD WHIT THIS ELK. MAG FILD YOU CAN GET LIMITH ENEGY LET SAY 10 WATT OUT ENRGY
OK WHEN YOU PUT LMD DIVICES AND YOU PUT IN ENRGY OF 1 TESLA ELKTROMAGNET ENERGY AND YOU PUT MANY LMD YOU CAN POSIBILYTY TO INCREASE THE ELKTROMAGNET FILD MANY TIMES THEN YOU PUT IN THE IN AND LET SAY YOU PUT 1 TO INCREASE TO 10 ELKTROMAGNET FILD AND THIS OUT 10 ELKTROMAGNET FILD WHILL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE ENERGY IN THE OUT 8) 8) 8) ;) ;) ;)
speaker?s
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/861016/emf_electro_magnetic_field_from_speakers/
sm was speaker maker
perfect sound
mac my good friend dont stop now ;)
you have done a great deal of good old fachioned hard work dont stop now
some drawings may help the people ;)
and you have done a grate job with them too
do share
you will this i know :)
william
HAPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE FORUM :) :) :)
Happy new year to all!!! Sretna nova godina MACEDONIA CD! Nadam se da ces nam svima pomoci u potrazi za besplatnom energijom. :)
energijom for everybody !!! Happy New Year Mac et. al. LOL :)
Yes, happy new year MAC and all...
A
Oops double post...
I'm working on bedini stuff, but it is related to the tpu:-
Again from SM:-
Think of this:
Energy conversion is different when you consider speed. 12 volts at 100 amps is slow and the energy can not dissipate quickly enough to kill you by discharge. But, it is a lot of energy especially if converted to speed. Reduce that 100 amps to 100 mA but increase the voltage (speed) to 100,000 volts and you can electrocute someone!
My unit operates on these principles. Think about all those frequencies traveling inside the collector coil and how they interact.....
END
early color tv engineers who contributed to the power generator, in a indirect way, think about the imploding tv set, what does it all tie into.....it's high voltage = speed
Read my previous posts
Dom
HI TO ALL
I HOPE WE WHILL BE KNOW IN THE 2012 YEAR IS THE TRUE OF TPU <<IS TRUE DEPEND OF THE EARTH MAGNET POLE >> WHEN OUR PLANET WHILL BE SLOW DOWN ROTATION OR BE CHANGE THE POLE OR SOMTHING I DONT KNOW WHILL BE KNOW THEN IS TRUE HIS WORDS <<IS DEPEND OF THE MAGNET FILD OF THE EARTH>>> :) :) :) :-\ :-\ :-\
W E L C O M E --------- <<NIBIRU PLANET OF CROSSING>>
GOD HELP AS AND KEEP OUR CHIHDREN TO KEEP GOING WHIT HIS LIVES I HOPE TO LIVING BETER LIVE AFTER 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkv4chj47XY&feature=related
HI TO ALL
I HAVE SOMTHING FOR ALL OF YOU <<MOST THING IN ATHER WAY >>
T P U OF << SM >> IS AMPER TRANSFORMER NO VOLTAGE IN ENERGY ONLY AMPS LOW VOLTAGE LOW WATT INPUT ELKTRIC ENERGY
AND CONVERT LOW V. WHIT HIGH AMPS IN TO THE HIGH VOLTAGE <<110 WHIT LOW AMPS 5 A>>
HOW IS POSIBE ?????????/?? LOW INPUT WATT LOW INPUT VOLTAGE HIGH AMPS ?????
AND OUT IS BIG MAGNET KICK 8) 8) 8)
HI
SM DIVICE WHIT <<AC WHIT DC VOLTAGE>> AND TUBES ... AND NO VACUM TUBE
SECRET HV DC CREATED VORTEX OF PRESURE PRODUCED ELKTRONES TO MOVE FAST IN THE HEATS COIL >>>
JUST HEATS COIL LETS OPEN DOOR FOR ELKTRONES TO MOVE WHIT HELPS OF HV DC
yin-yang! ahhh ha! finally i got it! I understand your logic MACEDONIA yin-yang is the answer. all I need to do now is build it and share.
@MACEDONIA
please check this experiment out: http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm
I think this inline with your ideias the possible advance of TPU.
Fausto.
HI
TPU = TESLA PRIMARY COIL FIRST FREKFENCY
SECUNDARY FREKFENCY SMALL IN ENRGY
AND THIS 2 FREK COME AS LIKE ONE BIG KICK <<MAGNET KIKC>
P.S -- STRANGE THING IS ORDENERY CAP WHAT WHILL HAVE THERE CAP ????
PS WHAT IS HAPEND THERE WHIT TWO SIMPLE THINGS <<CAP AND COIL>>
WHAT IS SECONDARY COIL WHAT IS THERE HMMMM
SM SAID THIS IF YOU HAVE SMALL PERMANENT MAG AND MOVE CLOUSE THE WIRE WHIT HIGH SPEED YOU GET MORE COURENT
HMM MAYBE SECONDARY COIL IS HMMMMMMMMMM SMALL MAGNET
BUT WHERE IS PICK UP COIL OR<< COLECTOR COIL >>
AND FINALY I KNOW THE ANSFER
FANY THING ------ I MADE TRANFORMER HO TRANSMIT DC INPUT VOLTAGE IN TO THE SECONDARY COIL
MORE SPEED MORE ENERGY
AND SOME ATHERE THING WHAT YOU THING DID ELKTRONES MOVE IN THE DC VOLTAGE CONTINUESLY
CATCH DIS MOVING ELKTRONES WHIT DC VOLTAGE
I HAVE SAID MANY GOOD THINGS NOW
I KNOW HOW IS MADE TPU OF S.M AND I KNOW WHAT IS NEED THIS SMALL MAGNET TO START HIS TPU I HAVE ONE WORDS <<ONE SIMPLE WORDS HO EXPLANE EVERHING BUT I DONT TELL THAT WORDS >..
I SOON MADE TPU LIKE SM AND I WHILL PROVE THIS MISTERY IS REAL NO FAKE
SM SAID MOVE ELKTRONES BUT HOW WHILL MOVE IS IMPORTANT
ORDENERY TRANSFORMER NOT TRANSFORM THE DC V INPUT ENRGY TO THE SECUNDARI COIL I
I know exactly what are you talking about. But, I wonder whats going to happen when any of us have success with the TPU?...you know already that the oil and energy man In Black going to try to stop us at any cost...my advice is to keep it quiet until a great number has builted and succeded in the construction and release it all at the same time...they can't stop us all. FREE ENERGY FOR EVERYBODY!
@light-worker
that why forums like this one exists. Any product developed here is by definition "Open Source" which makes it unpatentable (unless a warning is given by the creator).
MIBs will NOT be able to stop the whole world. That's why when we do things here it is already defeating any chances of being stopped.
Fausto.
Go! Macedonia CD I think you are near the solution!!
If you can share a picture with your setup. So others can replicate.
take also a look at this post I hope it may help you
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.msg40581.html#msg40581
Be careful!!! remember SM warnings TPU can self destroy
Best wishes
Turz
HI
TO ALL MAN <<<<EM.DEVICE ,, RENOTE OTTO ,,, INOVATION,,,, ALTIUM,,,,,>>>>>>>
AND FINALY TO OURS FRIEND ,,,MANNIX SECRET FRIEND <<<
OK NOW I KNOW WHAT IS THERE INSAID OF TPU OF SM >>>>>>
SIMPLE EXPLANE NOTHING MORE
MISTERY <<,<<,,, DID DC VOLTAGE MAY TRANSFORM ENERGY TO COLECTOR COIL >>>>>>>> WHITOUT ENY ELKTRONICS PARTS
ANSFER IS YES YES YES WORDS SM IS << DC VOLYAGE WHIT AC VOL.
AND 5000 CIKLUSE YES THAT IS FINALY ANSFER
ALL YOU ARE TRAING WHIT ELKTRONICS PARTS AND SOME Iics IS WRONG
IMAGEN THIS IF TPU IS <,,HAFL TESLA PRIMARI COIL WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS THIS NEED THIS PRIMARY COIL OF TESLA IS NEED <<,FOR BIG ELKTROMAGNET FILD JUST SHORT OF ONE SECOND IMAGEN THIS MAGNET FILD WHIT VERY SHORT TIME OF ONE SECOND
AHA AHA IS LIKE YOU HAVE STRONG MAG FILD WHIT SPEDD ONE VERY SHORT TIME <<WHAT IS THAT SPEED >>HMM OOOOO
THIS ONE SEGMENT OF THAT SM TPU TESLA PRIMARY COIL
THAT IS 100 % SURE IS THERE IS TESLA COIL PRIMARY LIKE RING
LOOK HERE TESLA COILTHERE IS NOT ALL YOU THING THERE IS ANTHR THING THERE NO NO THERE IS NOT SECONDARY COIL OF TESLA COIL ONLY PRIMARY COIL
THE PORPOSE OF THIS COIL IS TO MAKE STRONG ELKTROMAGNET FILD WHIT SOME HIFG SPEED >>>BUT FOR WHAT SPEED IS THAT NEED THAT COIL OF TESLA HMMMMMMMMMM ANTHERE TIME I WHILL EXPLANE ///I LIKE TO BACK HOW IS MADE TESLA PRIMARY COIL INSAID TPU I LIKE TO SAY
WE ALL KNOW THE BIGER TPU WHITT 10 BULBL VIDEO THERE IS IN THE CENTER SOME 2 CAPS WHIT YELOU COLOR I MEAN THAT CAP IS ABOUT 0,22 nf ABOUT 1500 VOLTS MAYBE MORE VOLTAGE IS NOT VERY IMPRTAN BUT I LIKE TO TELL SME SIMPLE THINGS
WE ALL KNOW IF WE CHARGE SOME CAP LET S SAY THAT 0,22 nf WHIT HV THE TIME FOR CHARGE THAT CAP I NEED MORE TIME LET SAY 0,5 SECOND AND FOR THAT WE BE PUT LET SAY 0,2 AMPERS OK THERE WE BE CHARGE 0,22 WHIT 1500V WHIT 0,2 AMPER IN JUST 0,5 SECOND
WHAT I LIKE TO SAY HERE IS THAT
IF THIS CAP WHILL PUT TO TESLA PRIMARY COIL THAT COIL HAS VERY VERY SMALL RESIST AND THEN THIS CAP WHILL BE DISCHARGE <<IMAGEN THIS DISCHARGE IN AMPS WHILL BE 5 AMPS ,, WHIT 0,00005 SECOND >>
WHEN DISCHARGE CAP THERE IS 5 AMPS STRONG ELKTROMAGET IN THE VACUM COIL AND THAT STRONG ELKTROMAGNET WHILL BE THERE VERY SHORT TIME
LIKE YOU MOVE STRONG ELKTROMAGNET WHIT BIG SPED
ATHER WAY HIS TPU HAS 2 CAPS 0,22nf simple when is one cap discharge anther is charget this i beakouse for that cikluse do not have time paused of pump the fild continuese
look tis you now sayin tesla cil and bla bla bla bla not tesla coil is for anther thing there
FOR SMALL TPU WAY IS NEED SMALL MAGNET FOR WHAT BUT HOW SMALL MAG WHIL PRODUCED THIS INPOSIBLE OUT POWER I SAY THAT MAGNET IS NOT FOR PRODUCED AND TRANSPRT ENRGY TO COLECTOR COIL THAT MAGNET IS NOT FOR THIS
THERE IS IMPORTANT THING IN THE INSAID OF HIS TPU VREY IMPORTANT TO START THIS GENERATOR FOR DC VOLTAGE BUT NOW I DONT WHANT TO SAY FOR THAT
I LIKE TO POINT THIS AND ALL OF THIS MAN HERE TO LOOK IN THE ATHERE WAY <,YOU DONT NEED ENUMORE THAT OR ENY KIND OF EXPERIMENT WHIT TPU OURS
YOU MAY PUT IN THE BOX EVERTING YOU HAVE DONE YOU DONT NEED ANY MORE THIS
NOW I HAVE SAID SOME THINGS AND I TELL YOU THE TRUE FOR HIS TPU OF SM NOW YOU MAST BEALEAVET ME TO START TO MOVE AND THING AND THAT WAY WHIT OL FRIND AND FATHER OF ELKTRICITI <<TESLA >> COLI THERE IS ANSFER
I WHILL LOOK AND SEE WHAT YOU ARE MADE BUT ONLY WHIT THIS I HAVE TOLD YOU
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAING TO ME AND I KNOW WHAT YOU THING OF ME BUT
I HAVE TELL THE TRUE IF ASK NOW MANNIX NOW AND ASK HIM WHAT IS THING FOR IS THRE TESLA COIL INSAID THE SM TPU ASK HIM AND I MEAN THIS GAY WHILL TELL TELL YOU THAT IS NOT THAT THING THERE BUT I KNOW THAT IS TESLA COIL AND I KNOW THAT MANNIX IS KNOW IS TRUE BUT IS NOT SAY ING
LOOK ATHRE I KNOW AND I KNOW WAY COMPASS IS MOVING THERE IN THE CENTER OF TPU ALL THAT I KNOW NOW AND I KNOW WAY IS DC WHIT AC
YOU ARE SAY <<IS MOST BE THERE SOME LIKE TUBE >>
NO S NOT TUBE THERE BUT IS VACUM BUT VACUM IS NOT MEANEAG THE IS TRUE VACUM ..VACUM IS MEAN FOR COILS IN THE VACUM <<WHITOUT CORE>>NOT TUBE VACUM AND ATHER WAY IS SAYING SM AND EXPLANE HOW IS TV VACUM TUBE IS WORK THRE I MEAN IS ALL IDEA FOR TPU VACUM AND TV TUBE
YOU KNOW WHEN SM VIDEO EXPLANE WHIT HIS VIDEO SMALL WHIT DRILL AND TV <<<\HE SAID HIS TPU IS NOT COLECT ENRGY OF ENY KING OF SURCE OF SPACE OR SOMTHING LIKE THAT ONLY CREATED ""ELKTRMAG hmmmm MAGNET TO CREATED MOVING ELKTRONES IN THE WIRE """"" THAT HIS SAID ALL TIME WE DOING 120 YEARS MOVING ELKTRONES IN THE WIRES
FOR KNOW I STOP EXPLANE
YOU MAST STRAT TO MOVING IN ATHERE WAY TO FIND HOW IS MADE THIS 10 YEARS LONG MISTERY
EVERTHING MAST PUT IN THE BOX ALL OF YOURS EXPERIMENTS ATRT WHIT ATHERE SIMPLE EXPERIMENTS NOW PLEASE DONT TRAING TO BILD YOURS TPUS IS NOT THAT OF KIND OF THING REAL SM TPU
I HOPE TO ANDERSTEND ME DONT LOSE TIME WHIT THIS THING IN THE MY WAY AND MAKE REAL TPU LIKE <<SM>.
wheres EMdevices ??, can you make any sence of what MR CD is saying and spell it out for the rest of us?. ???
FERE IS YOUR FORKING UNIT?????!!!!!
SHOW US YOR FORKING UNIT!!!!!
;D
Hi Mac,
You understand Tesla and SM very well.
When Tesla was working for Edison he saw what happened when HV DC dynamos were suddenly connected to long power transmission line. Until current started to flow in the line, blue and purple discharges jumped out perpendicularly from the transmission line.
Everyone thought this was bad and must be fixed and stopped, but Tesla thought hummmmm this is interesting.
SM thought hummmmmmm. SM built many TPUs.
Tao said hummmmmm. SM replied ooohhhhhhh.
I have come to the conclusion that things are very simple, extremely simple.
MAC and a few others understand to look at things simply and not complicated.
There is no secret to TPU, the answer is to think like a child and don't make
things complicated.
Do not waste time thinking one must use tubes, or must use transistor, or must
not use spark gaps, or must do this, or must not do that. All of this is totally
irrelevant. When the big switch connected connected the DC dynamo to the
transmission line, nobody was using transistors, tubes, or spark gaps. But lots
of RE was generated. Concentrate on the essentials, not on the unimportant
periphery. The number of essentials you can count with the fingers of one hand.
Earl
@MAC
Please tell me how you know the yellow caps are .22nf 1500v. I have asked this question on the board so many times and no one was able to answer. I asked @z_p_e before he left the board but he never gave any specific values. I even spent many times in electronics shops to see if I could find a cap looking like those yellow ones and only see them on speaker crossovers, but not that high voltage.
But to charge the capacitor you need some power from somewhere and you need some inductors to load the charge into the caps. The two center coils could provide the inductance to charge the yellow caps but I do not think you could get enough of a charge through them. You could do it if the caps where in parallel or series to the secondaries, pulse the secondaries, charge the cap and discharge the caps to the primary.
The two center toroids are off the shelf type because you can see the original mounting L-brackets are still used to secure them as inversed. I have looked at many components, door bells, etc., to see if there is anything like it and have not seen anything. I have even printed a photo of the toroids to show shop owners and no one can tell me where they came from.
Without electronics like transistors. The LTPU was making 800+ volts of at least 1 amp to light the bulbs. How is he getting that type of amperage? And how can you do switching at that power level and not make noise if it is not electronics? Could maybe be done with some solid state relays which operate silently. Do solid state relays generate an internal spark when they contact?
I think you are on the right track for the SM TPU's. But let's not make confusions since Otto and Roberto are building their own designs, maybe taking some ideas from the SM design, maybe not, but surely always inspired by them. But saying to guys to stop this and that will not happen, but hopefully some newer minds and builders can get some of your questions answered as they do deserve a closer look.
HI AND WELCOME HERE I MAY SMALL PLACE HERE
YOU ASK WAY SOME PEPLE HERE IS POINTED HER ANSFER IS I THING IS GOOD MAN BUT IS NOT MEAN IS ONLY THEN IS GOOD PEOPLE AND IS THERE ANTHER MAN HER IS GOOD I THING FOR @WATTS
OKYOU ASK WAY I KNOW IS 0,22nf 1600 or 2000 volts caps i know and i have here whit me is the same cap here
ather the biger tpu if you look clouse there there is solid dtructure like two black ring up and down two black ring like armature of some core or blakc iron <<
way two cap big you have two separated tesla primary coil <<aramature up is two down is two you know tesla primary coli for what is mean for what is there <<is for created strong and short time periode strong magnet fild just very short time way short time <<<hmm simple explane if you have small per,mag and move first slow to wire lets sa 12inc you need let say 1 second to move this 12 inch long wier just 1 sec of time but IF YO MOVE TO FAST IN THE SAME LONG WIRE 12 INC .. LET SAY 0,00005 JUST SECOND IN THE SAME WIRE IMAGEN WHAT OF POWER IS THERE >> this i teel you what of elktromagnet be fast like this speed whitout eny kind elktronics hmm <<TESLA PRIMARY COIL >>. how is fork tesla primary coil the cap is charge one second whit lets say one ampers and this one ampers now whill be discharge to thi simple coil tesla <<LOOK HERE FIRST TIME OF IMPULS OF ELTROMAGNET FILD BE TO SHORT LIKE YOU MOVE THIS ELKTROMAGNET WHIT VERY HIGH SPEED TO LET SAY 12INC WIRE IAMGEN THIS BUT YOU SAY IS VERY SMALL ONE AMPS NO IS NOT ONE WHEN IS DISCHARGE THERE THAT CAP WHIT DISCARGE THE AMPS IS NOT ONE AMPS THER IS 8 OR MORE AMPS JUST IN 0,00005 SECOND OF TIME PERIOD IMAGEN 8 ampers strong magnet fild whit whit very fast speed
NOW I WHIIL BACK IN ATHER SOME THINGS I POINT THIS THE TESLA COIL IS FOR ONE REOSONE THERE YOU NOT COLECT ENY ENRGY OF TESLA COIL <<I TELL YOU THIS COIL IS NOT FOR PRODUCED OR TRANSFORM THIS IN ENRGY OF 8 AMPS FOR OUT LOADS
I YOU THING IN THAT WAY YOU ARE IN THE WRONG WAY IF YOU THING THAT IF TESLA COIL IS COURCE COIL FOR COLECTOR COIL YOU HAVE NEVER BE ABLE TO CATCH MORE ENERGY THEN INPUT
NOW I TELL YOU YOU MAST START THING IN ATHERE WAY
IF I WHILL REMEBER THE WORDS OF SM WHEN IS TELL AND EXPLANE FOR BIG TPU
HE SAID FIRST ONE FREKFEFENCY START THEN SECOND FREKFENCY IS START
HMMM WAY 2 FREK BUT IS REALY IS TIS A FREKFEFENSY OR SOME GENERATOR HMM
I SAID NO AND THEN THIS 2 COME CLOUSE LIKE ONE THEN THIS 2 CREATED KICK <<MAGNET >.IN I SAID NOW
,,MAGNET FORCE KICK IN ONE DIRECTION>
BUT FOR WHAT PURPOSE IS THIS KICK AND FAST MAST BE IF WE ARE NOT YUSED FOR COLECT OUT LOAD ENERGY .......
THIS TWO FREK OR NOT FRE .. IS TO MADE SOMTHING ELSE <<I KNOW THE ANSFER >>
IWHILL MADE ONE SMALL LIKE TPU LIKE SM BUT FOR NOW I DONT TELL YOU FPR WHAT PURPSE IS NEED THIS TWO FRE..
I THING I HAVE TELL YOU VERY INTERSTHING AND GOOD THINGS TO STRT WHIT SOME REAL THINGS
<<,REMEMBER THIS TESLA COLI IS NOT FOR ENY KIND OF ENERGY OF TO COLECT FROM HIM THIS IS FOR ATHER PORPOSE THERE IN THE SM TPU
ANTEHR DAY I WHILL EXPLANE WAY SM SAID HIS DIVICE S I HAVE <<DC voltage whit AC>>
I KNOW YOU ARE SAYING MAST BE A TUBE THERE BUT IS NOT TUBE 8) 8) 8)
INTERSTING DIVICES DC WHIT AC
I TELL YOUU ALL TO LOOK AGAIN VIDEOS OF SM CAREFULL AND LISTEN CAREFULL WHAT IS SAYIN SM
NOW IM BUILD MY TPU SOON WHILL BE MADE AND I HOPE TO AMKE THIS WHITOUT ENY ERROR
THEN I WHILL SEND VIDEO TO SEE WHAT I HAVE MADE THERE IN THE VIDEO ALL WHILL BE REAL <<WHITOT ENY OF KIND OF JOKE >>ONLY REAL AND REAL RMS OUT POWEER
S.M YOU ARE GREATED MAN WHIT SIMPLE THINGS WHIT SIMPLE PARTS YOU GET HALF PERPETUMOBILE
AND ATHERE I FORGOT TPU OF SM HAS TIME LIMITED SOURCE ENRGY BUT IS TO LONG TIME LIMITED IS GOOD TO YOUSED THIS LONG LIMITED TIME
HELOOO Mr .. <<MANNIX>> LET SAY SOMTHING NOW ;) ;) ;)
Mac CD,
Great to hear you're sure this time, I'll be waiting for that video. :)
@Chef and other @Tubers
There are no tubes, none, nill, in the LTPU or any other TPU. Final answer. You may be too young to have known tubes. My dad was a TV technician in the hey day of tubes. If you ever touch a tube, you will know how f*&?in hot they get. You cannot put a tube in that black box of the LTPU because it would have smoked the plastic in 2 minutes flat. Come on guys, get off the tube already. SM used this as an analogy, small power makes big power, like so many other analogies. Actually, the TPU itself is one big tube. The only direct and present day relationship between SM and a tube is..... YouTube. lol
@all
If what Mac is saying is sinking in, this touches on a post I made a little while ago showing the bailing wire ring armature. I had put a primary coil on each end of the armature to magnetize it, but I think what Mac is saying is no, the caps are discharged directly into the wire armature. Never thought of that. This would shoot out the magnetism at each pulse. This would also explain why the LTPU would get a little warm to the touch. The iron is heating up, not any of the wires. So if you blast the bailing wire with cap discharges, you should be able to now use the wound vertical collectors to catch some output. This would also stand firm if the design required a gradual power increase after start up. Now collecting energy via the TWO collectors (1/2 circle each), each half would then go to the two black caps in series as a regulator. The shorter vertical coils on the left and right of the zero point, which I called the primaries could be the feedback coils. I need to test this cap discharge into a bailing wire armature. Also, with two collectors and a pulsing armature, some of the armature discharges would reach the other collector in reverse polarity and this mixing could create the AC component.
I think the ideia this is related to Tesla coils is corroborated by the fact that in one of the videos of SM (sorry ,I dont know which one and where in the video but it is there) SM short some wires coming from the TPU and there you see the EXACTLY same effect as an "Jacob Latter" effect very commonly know by Tesla Coil Fans.
It cought my attention by the strange thought that I had: wow, his device is producing enough energy as a Tesla coil and the same effects?
So, for those that have the videos watch it again and again until you see this moment. SM is in the front of the table holding two wires, he touches the wires and boom, there it goes the electric flame up like a fire. Table with device is on the back and the watchers (potential buyers) were on the left further from him closest to the end left of the glass table. That's so far I remember by memory. I will try to find the spot on which video and post it here.
Good ideias MACEDONIA.
Fausto.
@Plengo
Here it is. I had this in my photo bank.
I'm sure MACEDONIA already has the small TPU working and Now he is going for the big fish. Ying-yang is the answer and also think like a kid. SIMPLE no electronic parts...think simple! :)
@wattsup
thats the one wattsup. Would you be able to tell us which video was that and where in the video (seconds)?
Fausto.
hi
me again
@ wattso
i tell or we dont anderstend me i tell you that is NOT eny kind of tube or somthing else like that but for simple explane TPU IS LIKE TUBE I <<<MEAN VACOM COIL >>>
ANTHER WATSOU IM <<working and my job is for repair tv aparatures and athere
>.i knoww whery whell elktronics but is not mathre this >>
ANTHER I HAVE TOLD YOU THE TESLA COIL PRIMARY IS NOT FOR ENY KIND OF TRANSMITHING ENY KIND OF ENERGY TO EXIT COIL <<OR COILECTOR COIL >>\
I SAID THIS
THERE IS 2 CAPs 0,22nf yelou cap one cap is for one primary tesla armature coil anther cap yelou is for anther tesla armature primary coil that is that <<you mised the point there or you are dont anderstand me <MY ENGLIS IS BAD I KNOW >>IF YOU ANDERSTAND MY MACEDONIA LANGUEGE I WHILL TAPENING IN THE MACEDONIAN WAY
AND LIKE TO SAY AGAIN TESLA COILs IS NOT FOR TRANSFORM OR GENERATOR TO TRNSMIT TO EIXIT COIL ENY ENERGY
IF YOU ASK YOUR SELF THERE IS NOT ENY SECUNDARY TESLA PICK UP COIL
@ EM DIVICE
YES IM WORKING NOW TO FINIS MY TPU WHIT OUT ENY ELEKTRONICS THERE BUT I MAST PUT THERE ONLY SIMPLE SWITCH FOR DONT TOCH EXIT WIRE TO EXPOSE TO RMS HMMMMM
AND ATHERE WHAT IS NEED PERMANENT MAGNET FOR SMALL TPUs OF SM
;) ;) ;)
AND WAY IS VIBRATED HIS TPU s yes <,mast vibrated yes Steven Mark IS NATURAL TO MAKAING VIBRATIONS THERE THANKS SM
WAY VIBRATED THIS <<DC WHIT AC TPUs>>
look here i tell you what is there but there is somthing else now i dont tell you you mast find what is there in the tpu
yes thre is tesla primary coil for big tpu
but way is need this old tesla coil NO ELKTRONICS THERE
I HAVE SAID THAT TESLA IS GOOD TO PRODUCED STRONG AND FAST ELKTROMAGNET FILD
The arc is consistent with high voltage pulsed dc. You'll notice that he has to try a couple of times to establish the arc, To get a spark on pulsed power you need to seperate the conductors when the pulse is rising. This ionizes the air which becomes a conductor and you pull out the spark until the ionized air resistance is more than the voltage and the arc goes away.
Tesla's primary is of high selfinductance. A coil self-induces when each turn acts as the primary in a transformer and the subsequent turns as secondaries. Therefore the emf becomes vectored along the coil x axis. The secondary of the Tesla coil feels this magnetic field vector. This vector flow is fast. This allows for a huge gain in voltage as compared with just changing the ratio of turns in a standard transformer and jiggling the magnetic field of the core. The self-inductance of the secondary of the Tesla coil is low. The capacitance of the coil turns matched to the inductance. This results in a current whose emf doesn't travel from turn to turn but is in phase with the emf vector field of the primary. Lots of volts, very little steel and insulation.
SM's tpu seems to employ a Tesla primary, powered by ramped dc pulses. The emf of the kick windings vectoring along the outer circumference of the collector coils. I believe this is where the tpu differs from the Tesla transformer. The e-field of the primary windings creates the voltage in the secondary or collector windings not the primary magnetic field. So SM's analogy of a garden hose and squeezing the water along starts to make sense. The efield is the squeeze. Now where does that overunity come from?
@plengo
The video is the one that starts with SM cutting the medium TPU and he does the sparking at 18:50.
@MAC
I will re-read your details. I will also try my idea on pulsing a bailing wire armature with collectors wound, just in case. lol
hi
how many time i said this THE TESLA PRIMARI COIL IS NOT PRODUCED ENY KIND OF EXIT ENERGY THIS IS FOR ATHERE THING THERE
dont traing to make simple tesla coil whit secundary coil thre is like this tpu
I SAID THAT IS IN THE TPU IS ONLY PRYMARY COIL
TESLA ATHERE THING IS THERE IN THE INSAID OF TPU ANTHERE TIME I WHILL MAYBE I WHILL TELL YOU
I HAVE MANY SECRET I TELL YOU WHAT IS THERE WHEN I WHILL SEE SOME OF YOU IF WHILL MADE OR TELL SOMTHINGS CLOUSE TO MY TPU IWHILL HELP
@MAC
Before we design the TPU experiment, we need a reasonable theory. Could you tell more your idea and the possible source of the extra energy?
ohhhh!! , now its a secret, gee what a suprise? 8)
hello
sm say that mystery video about spinnig compass
but where is that video
okey maybe this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Mr_0S7zqw
@zapnic
yes you are raid AND FINALY PUT THERE COMPASS AND LETS MOVE THIS SLYPY ELKTRONES LET <<< GIVE AS POWER ;) ;) ;)
@OTTO @ RENOTE @ EM DIVICE
SOMTHING SIMPLE EXPLANE>>>>>> IST EASY TO MOVE ELKTRONES ;) ;) ;)
BUT IS HARD TO MOVE ELKTROMAGNET FILD ;) ;) ;)
hi all
@ Wattsup
i did find this pdf on the yellow cap
hope this is what you all need
Thanks weri812.
For what it is worth I've had some experience with this type of capacitor, although not in that high of voltage rating. The structure of this capacitor is made to remain pretty stable in environments where there is exposure to vibration. They also have a high Q. I've worked with them in old telephones. On party-line systems the old mechanical ringers were tuned to a ring frequency with the combination of the ringer coil and capacitor; i.e., LC. They had to be stable during the ringing operation and hold it's value.
The other application that has been mentioned here is cross-over networks in speakers. Again exposure to vibration and used, in this case, for passing the higher audio frequency into the higher frequency speaker coil or tweeter. I'm not into audio that much but, again, it's used in an application exposed to vibration in a tuned system.
These capacitors will take a high rate of energy and well suited for snubber circuits.
So these capacitors are most likely involved in some sort of tank circuit. If we know the capacitance value will this allow us to assume that the coil it is used with has the same value in inductance.
Also, I'm curious if the audio is good enough to analyze in the video where Mark is showing Sparks. This may give us another clue if we can pull some frequencies off of that part of the video.
If this all has been brought up before please except my apologies.
Take care.
nap
@weri812
Good find. Thanks.
@Slapper
Thanks for your input.
If someone can look at the video and estimate the capacitor dimensions, the pdf has measurements that could be used to approximate which of caps is being used. I would say in the 600vdc cap range and match to the dimensions would give the maximum uF value.
mac your english is not that bad, but your spelling is! :)
(read it phonetically QUICKLY, if you are having trouble understanding him)
regarding where electron flow (overunity) comes from in the tpu, its a cascade effect caused by the properties of magnetic fields and electron flow in a wire and the ability of 2 rotating magnetic field, 1 from the top wire, 1 from the bottom wire, interacting with a wire between them made of a different material, to create spontaneous electrical flow.
THEORY: the electricity flowing through the wires creates a "pulsed" magnetic field by nature of the delay/oscillation caused by the material difference in wires 1,2,3, etc and wires a,b,c etc.
magnet creates electricity, remove magnet and electricity should stop. the magnetic field in the wire caused by the flowing electricity in that short time the hand held magnet was within the coil, allowed a cascade process to start.
so a tpu coil would look like this...........?
wire 1
wire a
wire 2
wire b
wire 3
wire c
wire 4
wire 1 is your "input" wire (pulses of dc)
wire c is your output wire (get usable electricity here)
electricity flowing through numerical wires (1, 2, 3), create a magnetic field. the magnetic field from wire 1 spins clockwise around that wire, and down into wire a (for the sake of argument. actual direction is not known to me). that same electrical flow continues around the coil and back to the same face of the coil, but it is now at "wire 2" (i should have used the word winding instead of wire maybe...easier to visualize for me this way though). wire 2 creates a clockwise magnetic field also, which spins up into wire a. the "kick" from these 2 magnetic fields hitting eachother in wire a causes an electrical flow at a right angle to their collision, which is the same direction that the coil windings (wires) are wound in. this causes a usable electrical flow to move in wire a, and that flow is added to by more and more kicks from the coil, as each pulse of electricity travels down the numerical coil.
to make this process self sustaining, you must be able to feed a pulse dc signal back into wire 1 (the top winding of the tpu). a small control circuit could probably be added at wire c, to route some of that voltage in efficiently timed pulses back into the tpu.
i can see this creating huge amounts of electricty, or heat.......but wouldnt it melt the coil windings before anything incredibly bad could happen? how much electrical/energy pressure can you create in an area before you get strange or hurtful effects?
this is all under the assumption that each wire in the tpu is kept insulated from the others. i assume diameter or mass or volume of materials may effect the tpu "kick" resonance.
is that correct mac?
okey
"Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly
around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second,
then the third."
Has anyone ever done any research on what happens when we
create a magnetic field and revolve it faster and faster.
What changes and at what speed or frequency of the pulsed field
do things suddenly change?
By the way, have you seen the video of the compass turning violently in
the center of the unit while in operation?
Notice that when I first turn the unit on that the compass starts to spin
very slowly.
it speeds up faster and faster until it just stops.
When it stops the unit is always operating at about it's design maximum.
We never found out why any of this occurred.
It tended to reinforce what I observed as the turbine effect.
When the unit is shut off the compass starts to revolve again and slowly
comes to a rest.
so use compass ;D
Quote from: zapnic on March 01, 2008, 11:34:50 AM
hello
sm say that mystery video about spinnig compass
but where is that video
okey maybe this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Mr_0S7zqw
I counting the time for the 36? turn !
Why the last 180? degrees ar about 10% faster than the first ??
Have he used an Magnet under the table and moved this by hand?
Pese
Quote from: pese on March 03, 2008, 05:09:01 AM
Quote from: zapnic on March 01, 2008, 11:34:50 AM
hello
sm say that mystery video about spinnig compass
but where is that video
okey maybe this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Mr_0S7zqw
I counting the time for the 36? turn !
Why the last 180? degrees ar about 10% faster than the first ??
Have he used an Magnet under the table and moved this by hand?
Pese
I think that is answered easily: it's speeding up!!!
regards
Robert
The tpu collector current must be getting faster and faster. The tpu is configured like a particle accelerator.
hi to all
we be all remember for one thing <<<SMALL MAGNET AND SPEED LIKE I GUN BULITH>>
WAY S.M OR LETS SSAY <<Steven Mark >>is not real NAME OF THAT
MAYBE I THING IS <<if i move the S I PUT THE K ,, AND I MOVE THE <T> HMM
IS LIKE THIS <<<< STEVEN IS ______ Kve__ n
<<<<< MARK IS _______Michael
SM IS <<Kve__n Michael >>
and I THING THIS MAN OR <<SM>> IS VERY RICH MAN NOW AND HAVE ONE KID <IS MALE >> AND THIS NOW <<K.M>>HAS MANY NAME S BUT REAL NAME IS <K.M>
OK YOU NOW ASK YOU SELF WHAT IM SAID NOW THIS I HAVE SPEAK WHIT SOME PEOPLE HO HAS SEE AND HAVE SOME SUPERNATURAL POSIBILYTY LIKE SEE IN THE FUTURE AND HAS<< bioenergy something like this
and 2 man said this sm is not real name and he told is some <kve___n michael>>
this mans has nothing whit this forum or somthing like anthing like this but is a very good mans ho has tell the future and see the past or somthing else ok
IF YOU ARE HELP THIS NAME OR CLOUSE FOR SOMTHING YOU MAY FIND SOME THAT SECRET MAN
AND I HAVE TOLD ME THAT <K.M >>IS I STILL IS LIVE AND HAS ABOUT CLOUSE TO 60 YEARS
AND HAS BODY GARD AND KEEP ING FOR BAD GAYS AND IS A VERY RICH MAN AND IS HAVE ONE <<KID >AND IS A MALE HIS KID IS ABOUT 26 TO 32 YEARS OLD
AND <<K.M>HAS MADE MUCH BIGER TPU FOR PRIVATE BUSNES
I LIKE TO SAY THIS WHEN IS START TO maKE his FIRST TPU HE IS MADE MANY OF TPU HO HAS NOT IS WORKEN PROPERTLY AND FINALY HE MADE
HE WORK VERY HARD TO FIND THIS AND HE HAS MANY NOT WORKING DIVICES BUT FINALY IS SUCSES IS MADE>
AND THE END OF THIS <<STORY OF SOME SUPER NATURAL PEOPLE HO HAS ABLE TO SEE THE WORLD IN ATHERE WAY >>THAT IS TELL ME HO IS THAT MAN
BUT IS DONT MATER THIS NAME
let say like <<story >>
now <<S.M IS NOT S.M >>NOW IS <<K.M>>
OR <<Kve__n Michael>> ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
@mac,
I guess most people don't really care to trace K.M but the real issue is how to make a TPU.
Can your friends help with the technical details?
Personally, I think KM should be left alone.
AM
i get the impression several times from a few posters in this forum RE: the tpu , that there saying they know how it works and can even make one BUT, there then not going to tell OR, there going to keep it a secret for JUST a little while longer, why say anything in the first place?. ???
, if you have the goods show us .
....k.m... ??? ??? ???
okey.....
aha
i said some STORY HERE IF YOU BEALEAVET OR NOT IT UP TO YOU ...THIS SIMPLE STORY MAYBE IS TRUE BUT MAYBE NOT OK
I KNOW WHAT IS THE PROBLEM
UP THERE I SAID YOU MUST POINT THIS <<<SMALL MAGNET FAST SPEED AND ,, TESLA PRIMARY COIL ATHERE ELEMENT I DONT WHANT TO EXPLANE NOT NOW MAYBE LATER
ATHER THING I SAID THAT IS EASY TO MOVE ELKTRONES BUT IS HARD TO MOVE ELKTROMAGNET FILD
IF YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAID THIS YOU WHILL KONW HOW IS MADE THAT TPU
FINALY THERE IS IMPORTANT SOME THING THERE IN THE HIS TPU WHITOUT THAT YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE TPU AS LIKE <<K.M>>
FINALY I LIKE TO SAY TPU OF <<K.M>> IS REAL THING IS NOT A FAKE
LOOK THERE I WAS SAY TO ALL <<SMALL MAG FAST SPEED AND TESLA PRIMARY COIL AND SECRET INSAID THIS>>>
YOURS FRIEND @ MACEDONIA CD ;) ;) ;)
@ Mac
Please don't use the word secret on an open forum looking for new energy technologies that will help everybody.
I am starting to think that SM was resetting magnetic domains in the permanent magnets he always has around the tpu.
If electricity causes the polarization of magnetic domains (like in a transformer coil) then it would lead one to believe that there is energy stored in those fridge magnets. Maybe all we have to do is reset the domains with pulsed magnetic fields and we get the power that went into them out. ;D
QuoteATHER THING I SAID THAT IS EASY TO MOVE ELKTRONES BUT IS HARD TO MOVE ELKTROMAGNET FILD
This reminds me of the Faraday generator: Whether you move the magnet or not makes no difference, the magnetic field doesn't move. The induced electric field, however, moves with the solid rotor.
We know so little about magnetism but I want you to consider this:
If light is passed through a fiber optic cable, when the cable is straight, all the light comes out at the other end uniformly.
But, if you bend the cable, the photons on the inside travel faster through the medium and you get a different colors at
the other end.
Would this also be the case for a magnetic field forced to bend?
AM
Hi Macedonia CD
I've read your posts.... let me know if I'm right
Take a look at the picture:
We must setup two Tesla primary coils but not the secondary, the secondary is another primary coil.
with this configuration we will have:
1) AC and DC together like SM said
2) two caps one for each coil like SM large TPU (maybe like you suggest 0,22 nF 1500V)
3) a spinning magnetic field like Zapnic suggest in his post (spinning compass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Mr_0S7zqw)
4) a "vacuum like a tube" because we must have a "hole" in the middle of the coil
So let's spin this MF like a gun bullet with fast discharge of caps!!!
But at this point?
1) What about frequencies?
2) What about materials?
3) How collect something useful?
Let's think about frequencies......maybe
Freq 1 is WHEN discharge cap1
Freq 2 is WHEN discharge cap2
Freq 3 is WHEN catch something
Let's think about materials......
we must use copper (CU) and iron
we must use baling or litz wire (many wires are better than one)
Let's think about catch something useful......
at this point we can setup two configurations:
a) the two Tesla coils are made of copper ad there is a third coil/s to collect made of iron ?
b) the two Tesla coils are one made of copper and one made of iron and we use directly the AC in these coils?
And about your post
HE WORK VERY HARD TO FIND THIS AND HE HAS MANY NOT WORKING DIVICES BUT FINALY IS SUCSES IS MADE>
AND THE END OF THIS <<STORY OF SOME SUPER NATURAL PEOPLE HO HAS ABLE TO SEE THE WORLD IN ATHERE WAY >>THAT IS TELL ME HO IS THAT MAN
The answer is Nikola Tesla
Let me know what you think
best wishes
Turz
Say the tpu's input magnetic field squeezes the electrons into the core of the collector/generator coil.. This leaves you with a low pressure electron density on the outside of the generatator winding. A positively charged surface. So the collector windings now appear as a big old low pressure area to anything negatively charged. So electrons start to migrate towards this low pressure zone. They will experience a Coriolus force that will deflect them into a vortex current whose direction depends on which hemisphere you are in. This Coriolus force just happens to be the same way a magnetic field will bend a current. So now you have a pulsating vortex current circulating on the surface of the generator winding.
hi im a glade what im read here and is good thing is here for yours reply
@ TURZ YOU THING THIS IS THAT IS THE FREKFENCY HMM NO IS NOT FREKFENCY BUT IS CIKLUSE OR <,PERIODE >>IF IS FREKFENCY K.M WHILL NOT PUT DC ?AC CONVERTER TO PUT THERE <<TV RECIVER AND DRILL >>.
WHEN IS SAID 6000 HZ IS NOT HZ BUT IS SOMTHING ELSE <<LIKE MESURING SOME HMMM>>
HIS DIVICES IS GIVE HIM DC VOLTAGE WHIT AC HMmmmmmmm ?AC SOME LIKE HZ BUT IS NOT HZ
ASK @SPARK HE GET SOME GOOD THINGS FOR THIS ELKTRONES
@ SPARK WHERE IS YOUR ELKTRONES WHERE YOU COLECTED <<OPEN YOU ::)
@ FOR ALL MAN HERE ASK <<<WHAT WHILL HAPEND IF YOU HAVE VERY EXPENSIVE SPEAKER HO HAS VERY HIGH SENSITIVE LIKE 130db SPEAKER
IF YOU PUT THER SMALL IN LIKE I SAY ONE WATT INPUT MUSIC HOW WHILL BE THE LOUDS FROM HIM ,, OR YOU PUT LOW SENSITIVE SPEAKER WHIT THE SAME ONE WATT INPUT MUSC HOW WHILL BE THE LOADS
I FORGOT SOMETHING
FOR Hz I LIKE TO SAY <<ONE ELKTRONES IS ONE SINGLE Hz 10000000 OF THAT COMES MULTIPLATE FREKFENCY AND COME LIKE ONE BIG FIRE BALL OR KICK
@ mac
If you have low voltage high amperage current in a circuit it needs to be transformed into voltage and current like you pointed out. I get a little sketchy here and must ask someone else to explain this action. Perhaps you have an idea as to how SM accomplished this. ?
@SPARKY
I KNOW MOVE ELKTRONES FAST WHIT SPEED
OK IGH VOLTAGE WHIT LOW AMPERS IS THE SAME LIKE >>>HIGH AMPERS WHIT LOW VOLTAGE THE WATT IS THE SAME I KNOW MY FRIEND IS EASY
FIRST TIME ILONG TIME I HAVE BILD SOME LIKE <<HENRY MORAY DIVICES AND I HAVE MADE THAT AND A PRINCIPE OF THAT IS THE SAME <<<<,MORAY HAS COLECTED THE ENRGY OF THE EART AND BRING TO T5HE LONG WIRES AND THEN THERE IS THE ELKTRONES WAIKING UP THAT SLYPY ELKTRONES <<AND WHEREIS GOING THIS ELKTRONES >>>THAT IS SIMPLE CLOUSE TO THE K.M DIVICES BUT WHIT ATHER THINGS THERE TO TPU OF K.M
THE DIFERENT OF THE <<Henry Moray of K.M IS >>THIS ///// MORAY COLECT FREE ELKTRONES A K.M IS PUT THERE SECRET ELEMENT INSAID TO HAVE ELKTRONES AND THEN IS EASY
WHAT I HAVE NOW I TELL YOU HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ELEMENT OPSSS <<ELEMENT >>>LOOK CAREFULL WHAT IM SAID THAT
MORAY FREE ELKTRONES ..K.M NO FREE ELKTRONES ;) ;) ;) :D :D
AND NOW I DONT HOW TO EXPLANE WHAT TO TELL TO ALL THERE WHAT IS INSAID THE TPU <,,THIS IS THE GOLD WORDS I HAVE I TOLD HERE
@MAC
I hope that is not radioactive element like uranium inside TPU. Those element is not free at all (danger and expensive). Could you say yes or no?
@MAC
"WHAT I HAVE NOW I TELL YOU HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ELEMENT OPSSS <<ELEMENT >>>LOOK CAREFULL WHAT IM SAID THAT"
What is "ELEMENT OPSSS <<ELEMENT >>>"?
What is "OPSSS"?
Are you talking about the word "opposite"?
Are this opposite related to element table?
HI M.CD maybe you are talking about Germanium?
http://www.rexresearch.com/moray/speech.htm
"It was on June 24, 1925, that I discovered that by alloying Germanium with various substances I was able to make a valve for a radio receiver capable of reception of considerable strength without the use of tubes, batteries, or other accessories, which were then considered essential in radio receivers, This Germanium alloying material was used successfully for the detection and amplification of radio signals without the use of any batteries or any outside source of electricity. "
Regards
Turz
Hi M.CD
Germanium transistors are still used in some effects pedals by musicians who wish to reproduce the distinctive tonal character of the "fuzz"-tone from the early rock and roll era, most notably the Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face. Vintage effects pedals known to contain germanium transistors have shown marked increases in collector value for this reason alone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanium
And now?
ROCK&ROLL!!!
;D
Turz
@Mac
If you want to keep the electron's flow going from the vortex to the external circuit you need to keep the outside of the armature winding positively charged. Moray had germanium which has electron holes and KM had the other side of the diode with an excess negative charge drifting around. Makes sense. That is why when he draws current it heats up. It's the voltage drop across the semiconductor. You don't need much voltage to get forward current going in a diode. The electrical hurricane's eyewall so to speak. Pulsed dc or what I think Mac callls hummmmmmm.
Tesla's car power unit could have been 12 vacuum tubes working the electrical vortex the same way. Force a velocity change and let the Earth's rotation do the rest of the electron collecting. ;D
Quote from: sparks on March 04, 2008, 08:19:16 AM
The tpu collector current must be getting faster and faster. The tpu is configured like a particle accelerator.
funny thing
i was reading about that "King?s Electrons?story
maybe maybe
was tesla using "King?s Electrons?system his super car?
HI
elemnets i mean for material <<<< LOOK THE VIDEO OF k.m when k.m is braking the tpu when is shoow to athere people whit drill is brake lokk there what you see there ;) ;) ;)
what is insaid the tpu hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm hey @turz is somthing like <<<GERMANIUM WHIT SMALL RESISTING >>>
WAIT AND YOU WHILL SEE MY VIDEO WHIT SHOWUING SOME SIMPLE THINGS TO FREE ENERGY
I MEAN REALY THING I NOW I M TO WORKING FOR BIGER MY DIVICEI ND I HOPE TO SATISFACTION EVERYBODY HERE IN THE FORUM BUT I LKE TO SAY SOME THINGS HERE LIKE IN THE SECRET WAY IF YOU ANDERSTEND OK IF YOU DONT YOU FIND THE SECRET WORDS AND SEE IS THE TRUE
LIKE TPU
K.M IS SHOW AS 3 DIVICES HO IS DIFERENTS OF EACH BUT IS THE SAME RESOLTIING IN THE OUT COIL
ALL OF YOU HAVE READ POST OF THIS K.M FOR <,MANNIX >
THERE IS SAY SMALL MAG HIHG SPEEED ,,,, WIRE LONG AND SHORTS
AND THEN SAY IS OF EARTH MAGNET FILD
IS TRUE IS I HAVE MADE SOME AND NOW I READY TO MAKE BIGER DIVICE AND NOT HAVE ENY KIND OF BATERY THERE ...
@SPARKY I LIKE TO ANSFER TO YOU YES THERE IS VORTEX FLOW ELETRONES BUT HOW TO SPIN THREE WHIT HOW ELEMENT IS THERE INSAID THE TPU
THIS IS TEH DIFERENT TPU OF NOT COLECT EARTH MAGNET FILD BEACOUSE THERE IS SOME MATERIAL HHO HAVE ABEALEATY TO HAVE LEKTRONES <<SLYPY>> ONLY YPOU NEED TO PUSH WHIT SOME SPEEDD ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) :D :D :D
FOR MY DIVECE I HAVE THERE
70 VOLTS WHIT 0,2 AMPS WHIT NO ENY KIND OF BATEREY OR ENY KIND OF <<<URANIUM>>> SIMPLE IS NOW IM VEREY HAPY TO SEE THIS NEW WAY OF ENERGY
IS FREE ENERGY WAITNG FOR AS I M GLADE TO FIND THIS WHEN I I WHILL COMPLET WHIT MY DIVICE I WHILL SHOOW TO ALL BUT I DONT TELL NOTHIG THERE NO EPLANE BUT ONLY SHOW WHIT VIDEO AND THERE WHILL BE ONLY TRUE NO FAKE
I think Mac is having a little fun with us. opsss. Elements electron configuration. 3 s-suborbitals filled and the p has how many? ::) :D
hi
thing like this the tpuis like simple batery ;) ;) ;) see the video again
OPPPPPSSS
LOKK THERE
Hi M.CD are you talking about silicon?
I see a DIODE!
Am I right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode
Turz
Batteries use Zinc Mac. SM does put a wedge of some metal in his tpu's.
The metal becomes a resistor in a passive opamp and you get voltage drop across it and still have the main current spinning. I think this is how SM picks up his voltage drop to power his control circuits. If we use two rings of different diameter. There should be a potential between the two rings as they don't have the same amount of Electrical inertia. Both rings driven by the Earth's inertia but one with less electrical inertia relavent to the other. Now potential energy will flow from one ring to the other.
BE CAREFULL
TWO RINGS OF DIFFERENT SIZE IS GOING TO RESULT IN A
LOT OF POTENTIAL ENERGY FLOW
Voltaic_pile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaic_pile
and something else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaIvW665kTI&feature=related
@ Zapnic
In the washer experiment it is the magnet that is driving the reaction. The magnetic disresonance between the two metals seeks to equalize by exchange of potential energy. Potential energy flows from the magnet to the aluminum plate through the voltmeter to the to the washer through the zinc, until the iron of the washer becomes magnatized just like the permanent magnet. The aluminum gets in the middle and acts as a capacitor.
I was looking at the periodic table and lead is in the same row as carbon silicon germanium selenium. All semiconductors. It is also interesting that iron is in the middle of the periodic table.
@MAC.
So MAC...we move electrons all the time but its hard to move EMFs? look at this video it doesn't look that hard to me.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F2cZGYXYjJE
@MAC.
So MAC...We move electrons all the time but its hard to move EMFs? look at this video it doesn't look that hard to me.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F2cZGYXYjJE
@MAC CD
Hi MAC,
what do you think about this post from spherics ?:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4297.0.html
Are you approaching the problem in a similar way?
;) ???
hi
@comp-tech man i have no problem
thing like this the <<simple tpu >> ;) is like you have one energy and have reaction energy whit no disturbing the in enegy ;) ;) ;) oklook my simple pic here http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4290.0 ;)
.....
HI MAC is your setup similar to the tesla patent suggested by jack durban?
and quoting hartiberlin
Quote from: hartiberlin on November 03, 2007, 10:43:42 PM
Hi Macedonia,
when will you finally post a video of your design or
at least a few pictures ?
Best wishes
Turz
hi
soon whiil i send something interesting to see :)
and then you are say something is good or not ;)
i know @HARTI i have long i have whant and now i whill send the pic or video but i have not sure that is all made but now i hope soon be made 2 divices to show but whit hiden parts there :) ;)
i like to thanks <,to our friend <<S.M>>
LETS PLAY MUSIC LOUD NOW WHIT SMALL <<POWERFUL MAGNETS>. ;D ;D ;) :) :) :) :)
HI ;)
@Mac
They know which way to go. Now just imagine instead of a permanent magnet you have another set of coils for the original frequency to run away from.
I believe the pms are weak and respond to the magnetic field pulse of the Earth.
Amplify this signal and pretty soon the whole coil is vibrating and swirling in phase with the Earth h field. The vertical magnetic field of the Earth not the longitudinal.
hi
Hi Steve. You aren't as good at chess as you think you are.
hi how to put video here hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pl help my video is there mega
@mace
You can either host is somewhere (like yahoo, google, utube, etc... then provide a link using the "hyperlink" button. However, if it is a flash video, you can store it elsewhere (personal website etc...), and put the link in using the "flash" button.
Both "buttons" are available when you post a reply, on the bottom left under the bold, italic, underline, etc.. buttons above the area where you type you post.
I hope this helps you.
Paul Andrulis
(P.S. that was slick.)
Hi Mac.
Got yourself a 3 meg video. Coming Attraction for a book or a Movie. ???
Your secret element isn't IRON>>>>>> ooooops is it? ??? ;D ;D
Still your friend.
hiiii
i still i cant put video clip to you tube i have traing to loging but hi baning me <<this shit stuff is way i like to show somthing interestin g whit small permanent magnet s but 500 kb is to lo for video clip here how to send here my video clip eny to help me or
THANKS
??? ??? ???
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on April 24, 2008, 02:10:37 PM
hiiii
i still i cant put video clip to you tube i have traing to loging but hi baning me <<this shit stuff is way i like to show somthing interestin g whit small permanent magnet s but 500 kb is to lo for video clip here how to send here my video clip eny to help me or
THANKS
??? ??? ???
Hi Macedonia CD,
UP to 5 MegaByte you can upload into this Forum here these file types: zip,rar,doc,jpg,gif,png,avi,mov,mpg,mpeg,qt,swf,pdf,odt,rm,ra see this link:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=upload
rgds, Gyula
hi this is my simple video clip whit some permanenet magnets <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<http://www.mediafire.com/?2npmizsfxzb>>>>>>>>>>>
HERE I LIKE TO PROVE SOME THINGS ABOUT 2 SMALL PERMANENT MAGNETS WHAT IS HAPEND WHEN IS PUT IN THE 180%
HERE IS THE SMALL IN SOURCE WHIT 1,5V AC WHIT IN THE FERTHY SMALL TOROID THERE IS THE TWO COILS ONE LIKE PRYMARY AND ATHRE LIKE SECONDARY NOT SECONDARY
IF YOU MADE THIS LIKE YOU PUT PRYMARY COIL AND THEN SECONDARY COIL AND THEN YOU PUT THERE SIMPLE SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET THE VOLTAGE STAGE AND AMPS STAGE WHILL NOT BE INCREASE BEACOUSE IS NOT I SAID IS NOT SIMPLE WINDING COILS THERE IF YOU MADE SIMPLE PRYMARY AND SECONDARY COLIS THEREAND YOU PUT THERE 2 PEMANET MAGNETS YOU WHILL NOT INCREASE ENY KIND OF ENERGY
<<I HAVE MADE SOME SIMPLE OF MY SIMPLY THEORY IN THE PRACTICAL WAY AND I HAVE PROVET THIS
YES MAGNETS I S ABLE TO INCREASE THE POWER IN ONLY SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET
FOR EXSAMPLE MY TEST IS IS THIS 1,5 V AC MAKE KICK THERE WHIT RESONANCE
AND MAKEING STRONGLY VIBRATIONS
AND ATHERE IF I PUT MORE STRONG PERMAMNENT MAGNET THERE IN THE 180% MY DIVICES IS STOPING WHIT HIS FORK THE REASONS IS TO BE BE TUNE WHIT LIKE BALANCE THE IN ENERGY WHIT ENERGY OF THIS SMALL PERAMNENET MAGNERST IF YOU PUT STRONG AND STRONG MAGNET THE ENERGY WHILL DROP DOWN AND NOTHING
THIS SIMPLE VIDEO I SEND IS TO PROVE THIS MY IN ENERGY IS CONSTANT MY DIVICE HAS SMALL LOAD RESISTOR OF 12 OHMS I HAVE THERE SIMPLE TRANSFORMATOR 220V AC // 1,5 V THE INPUT MLLI AMPS IS CONSTANT THERE WHITOUT PERMANETS MAGNET AND MY INPUT MLLI AMPS IS CONSTANT WHEN I PUT THE ONE SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET THEN THE INPUT MLLI AMPLS IS GOING JUST LITLE DOWN AND WHEN I PUT ATHERE SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET THERE MY MLLI AMPS IS JUST LITLE IS GOING DRPING DOWN
FOR ALL THIS MESURMENT THE OUT COIL HAS ALL TIME HAS 12 OHM RESITOR FOR LOAD FOR ALL TIME THERE MY OSCILOSCOPE IS PUT TO MESURING THE OUT COIL WHERE IS PUT MY LOAD OF 12 OHMS WHEN I PU MAGNET MY VOLTGE OF OUT COIL IS INCREASE 20 TIMES WHIT LOAD THERE FOR ALL TAH IS GOOD IS THIS MY IN ENRGY IS GOING DOWN AND MY OUT ENRGY GOING UP ONLY SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET
IF YOU TRAING TO MADE LIKE ME SIMPLE TOROIDAL PRYMARY AND SECONDARY COIL THRE AND PUT MAGNET THERE YOU CAN NOT INCREASE NOTHING OF YOU VOLTGE OUT STAGE BE SURE
THIS IS WINDIG THERE IMPORTANT
THANKS FOR YOU TIME
hi
ok
hi
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on April 24, 2008, 06:00:22 PM
hi this is my simple video clip whit some permanenet magnets <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<http://www.mediafire.com/?2npmizsfxzb>>>>>>>>>>>
HERE I LIKE TO PROVE SOME THINGS ABOUT 2 SMALL PERMANENT MAGNETS WHAT IS HAPEND WHEN IS PUT IN THE 180%
HERE IS THE SMALL IN SOURCE WHIT 1,5V AC WHIT IN THE FERTHY SMALL TOROID THERE IS THE TWO COILS ONE LIKE PRYMARY AND ATHRE LIKE SECONDARY NOT SECONDARY
IF YOU MADE THIS LIKE YOU PUT PRYMARY COIL AND THEN SECONDARY COIL AND THEN YOU PUT THERE SIMPLE SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET THE VOLTAGE STAGE AND AMPS STAGE WHILL NOT BE INCREASE BEACOUSE IS NOT I SAID IS NOT SIMPLE WINDING COILS THERE IF YOU MADE SIMPLE PRYMARY AND SECONDARY COLIS THEREAND YOU PUT THERE 2 PEMANET MAGNETS YOU WHILL NOT INCREASE ENY KIND OF ENERGY
<<I HAVE MADE SOME SIMPLE OF MY SIMPLY THEORY IN THE PRACTICAL WAY AND I HAVE PROVET THIS
YES MAGNETS I S ABLE TO INCREASE THE POWER IN ONLY SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET
FOR EXSAMPLE MY TEST IS IS THIS 1,5 V AC MAKE KICK THERE WHIT RESONANCE
AND MAKEING STRONGLY VIBRATIONS
AND ATHERE IF I PUT MORE STRONG PERMAMNENT MAGNET THERE IN THE 180% MY DIVICES IS STOPING WHIT HIS FORK THE REASONS IS TO BE BE TUNE WHIT LIKE BALANCE THE IN ENERGY WHIT ENERGY OF THIS SMALL PERAMNENET MAGNERST IF YOU PUT STRONG AND STRONG MAGNET THE ENERGY WHILL DROP DOWN AND NOTHING
THIS SIMPLE VIDEO I SEND IS TO PROVE THIS MY IN ENERGY IS CONSTANT MY DIVICE HAS SMALL LOAD RESISTOR OF 12 OHMS I HAVE THERE SIMPLE TRANSFORMATOR 220V AC // 1,5 V THE INPUT MLLI AMPS IS CONSTANT THERE WHITOUT PERMANETS MAGNET AND MY INPUT MLLI AMPS IS CONSTANT WHEN I PUT THE ONE SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET THEN THE INPUT MLLI AMPLS IS GOING JUST LITLE DOWN AND WHEN I PUT ATHERE SMALL PERMANENET MAGNET THERE MY MLLI AMPS IS JUST LITLE IS GOING DRPING DOWN
FOR ALL THIS MESURMENT THE OUT COIL HAS ALL TIME HAS 12 OHM RESITOR FOR LOAD FOR ALL TIME THERE MY OSCILOSCOPE IS PUT TO MESURING THE OUT COIL WHERE IS PUT MY LOAD OF 12 OHMS WHEN I PU MAGNET MY VOLTGE OF OUT COIL IS INCREASE 20 TIMES WHIT LOAD THERE FOR ALL TAH IS GOOD IS THIS MY IN ENRGY IS GOING DOWN AND MY OUT ENRGY GOING UP ONLY SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET
IF YOU TRAING TO MADE LIKE ME SIMPLE TOROIDAL PRYMARY AND SECONDARY COIL THRE AND PUT MAGNET THERE YOU CAN NOT INCREASE NOTHING OF YOU VOLTGE OUT STAGE BE SURE
THIS IS WINDIG THERE IMPORTANT
THANKS FOR YOU TIME
VAU
good job
I'm new here, and lack some of the technical background probably necessary to be of much good.
I've struggled through the latest Macedonia comments, and have translated the last one to "get" the message -- see attached. I think the gist is correct, if not I'll delete. With all due respect to Macedonia, I'm fascinated with what you are doing.
thanks - Duane
With all due respect to Mac thanks for the translation MUCH easier to understand Chet
@mac
Can you tell us more about how the coils are wound?
Mac's untranslated word was Aether. What is happening in his clip is that the electrons on his windings are chasing the pulse signal. Right there is your free energy. Then the coil core is already saturated by the pm so the magnetic field produced by the copper electrons has no place to go but where you want it to.
Nice demo Mac.
Try this if you have the time. There is a mistake in this picture though! I think Mac will find it quick.
HI
OK
my engls is not good but im traing to improving my seff ;) ;) ;)
my macedonian languege is easy hahahahahah to writhing
@ marcel
@marco i hope to see this my litle experiment if you are here THANKS
ok <<marcel >.here im put sinus 50 hz in one coil like prymary coil like simple torodal transformator to meaning of this is
LOOK HERE CLASICAL TRANSFORMATOR WE ALL YUSD TODAY IS FORKING LIKE THIS
THE IN ENERGY AND OUT ENRGY IS 1:0,8 MAX BUT THERE IS THE CLASIVAL WINDIND THERE THAT IS THE REASON WAY IS ENERGY SMALL THEN IN
MY SIMPLE TEST IS TO PROVE TWO THINGS HERE
THIS TWO PROVE IS MISING ON THE CLASICAL TRANSFORAMATOT \\
FIRST IS THE RESONACE TO INPUT COIL AND ATHERE IS THE THIS SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET HO IS WOW GREAT THING
I HAVE TOLD HERE SOMTHING INTERESTENG WHIT MY TOROID
WHEN IM PUT MAGNET MY TOROID GENERATOR IS START TO RINGIN LIKE SPEAKER YOU MY SEE THIS WHEN IM PUT MAGNET SEE THE SCOPE MY
WHEN I PUT MAGNET MY SCOPE SHOW THE 12 VOLTS DIF
AND WHWN I REMOVE THE MAGNET MY SCOPE IS SHOW LITLE DIF OF <,0,01 VOLT
ALL THIS MEURING IS WHIT LOAD 12 OHM RESISTOR A HAVE CALCULATE THIS AND MY ENERGY IS 18 TIMES BIGER THEN IN ALLL MESURING IS WHIT ALL TIME WHITT LOAD RESIITOR NO FAKE BEALEVEAT
@MARCEL THERE IS CLASICAL PRYMMARY COIL AND SECONDARY COIL IS NOT
I DONT LIKE TO SAY NOW ABOUT MY SECONDARY COIL WRIT NOW MY LATER SOME TIME
YOU MY SEE THIS MY TORID IS NOT LIKE CLASICAL TRANSFORMATOR
YOU SEE IN THE ATHERE LIKE <,GENERATOR >>
MY DIVICE IS PUT CLASICALL 50 HZ IN THE OUT COIL I HAVE 200 HZ LIKE KICK AND THEN IHAVE SECOND HARMONIC IS 433 HZ
HOW I EXPLNE THAT IS NOT FREKFENCY LIKE KICK
IS STRANGE THIS I JUSED SINUS BUT I GET KICK 200 FIRST THEN SECOND 433 HZ??
I THING THERE IS ROTATION THERE NOT HZ
LIKE I HAVE 50 HZ
WHEN I PUSH ONE HALF PERIODE IN TO THE PRYMAR COILL THEN I HAVE IN TO THE OUT COIL 2 KICK AND THEN I PUT ANTHER HALF PERIODE OF MY COMPLET SINU THE I HAVE ANTHER 2 KICK
AND IN THE END I HAVE LIKE THIS
ONE COMPLET CICLUSE OF ONE HZ I HAVE 4 KICK
AND WHEN I PUT 50HZ * 4 KICK = 200 KICK THAT IS ONE FREK THE ATHER IS 433
YOU MY SEE THIS MESURING THERE IS THE ZIP FILE UP THERE
FOR ALL OF THAT i whill be able to make 1000 of kick per second only whit one single complet period of one hz
and whill be like this 60hz * 100 = 6000 cikcluse like <<s. m said 6000 cicluse per second >>
only whit simple small two permanent magnet placed in the 180 %
finaly i have sme good for strt biger divice
SORY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH I HOPE TO MAKE BETER VIDEO WHIT BETER PICS TO SEE BY
I'd like to experiment further. After digging through posts, my notes contain the following on the primary.
1. We know that the electrons is inside of copper and iron. if we want to move the electrones we need magnetism and this magnetic field must go to the INSIDE of the material and move the INSIDE electrones. IRON is the best catcher of magnetic field and when we move a magnet close to this we move all inside electrones in that iron. IF WE MOVE MORE INSIDE ELECTRONES WE GET MORE POWER. (Macedonia translated - with all due respects)
2. Suppose you have 1,000 pieces of wire twelve inches long and you
run the same weak magnetic field over them all at the same
time..... you get the same flow of electrons.-SM (see picture attached)
3. If the wires are run in series then you will get the 12,000 millivolts
etc. -SM (see picture attached)
4. Thus, wrapped around a toroid (see picture attached)
Is this the correct starting point for the primary ? thanks for advice.
Do you guys understand what Mac is saying?
I've experimented in the past with something very simular to what he is doing.
Do you know why he gets harmonics of the 50 Hz?
Read up on the nonlinear effects in SATURATED transformers.
The FTPU and the OTPU shure make me realize this effect is utilized by SM.
But what are you going to do with this effect?
Well, you can use it as an integral part of your tpu "receiver" and it playes the part of a mixer, at least that's the feelings I have about this whole TPU energy recovering process, like SM said in the videos  "these are NOT free energy devices,... they are CONVERSION devices...", so a mixer can convert a frequency up and down on the frequency spectrum.
So this saturated core phenomena can be utilized in this CONVERSION process, but now where to get the signal needed for convertion?  Try a loop antenna !!!
EM
HI
@EM I LIKE to ansfer you
i dont how to explane my harmonics is not harmonics like
for exsample <<when is start first one hz of my 50 hz to my prym coil what is hapend tis one hz is produced 2 kick elktromagnet fild whitout back aE.M FILD
like you have in you hand one magnet and move in the one direction to some coil whit out BACK <<e.m>fild
that is the one simple explane how its that \
THERE IS WHERE IS TELL S.M TO MANIX X WHEN IS SAID THIS<<IF YOU HAVE ONE MAGNET AND MOVE FAST LIKE SPEEDOF GUN BULYT
WE ALL KNOW THAT THE SPEED OF ELKTRONS MOVING IS SPEED OF LIGHT <<10^8>>SPEED
I LIIKE TO POINT THIS
YOU DONT NEED VERY FAST SPEED TO PUT THERE AND TO HAVE FAST MOVING FILD TO EXIT COIL
SOON I WHILL SEND ANTHER VIDEO CLIP TO SHOWW SOMTHING VERY GOOD
THANKS FOR LITLE MAN OF LITLE COUNTRY <<Macedonia>>
Quote from: EMdevices on April 28, 2008, 10:01:55 AM
Do you guys understand what Mac is saying?
I've experimented in the past with something very simular to what he is doing.
Do you know why he gets harmonics of the 50 Hz?
Read up on the nonlinear effects in SATURATED transformers.
The FTPU and the OTPU shure make me realize this effect is utilized by SM.
But what are you going to do with this effect?
Well, you can use it as an integral part of your tpu "receiver" and it playes the part of a mixer, at least that's the feelings I have about this whole TPU energy recovering process, like SM said in the videos "these are NOT free energy devices,... they are CONVERSION devices...", so a mixer can convert a frequency up and down on the frequency spectrum.
So this saturated core phenomena can be utilized in this CONVERSION process, but now where to get the signal needed for covertion? Try a loop antenna !!!
EM
hummm intresting EMdevices
i just mounted my sm15 on a peice of wood .... never ever did run it .....
ist
@EM
If the core of a saturable core reactor is saturated by either a pm or winding with a constant dc supply, and then the reactor is pulsed, would a winding placed around the saturable core reactor see a fast changing magnetic field change or would the core reactor eat up all the pulse energy?
@sparks,
once a reactor core saturates, the inductor looses it's inductance significantly, i.e. the core is useless magnetically once it is saturated (no more domains to align with the field of the inductor and enhance the overall field)
However, materials saturate gradualy, and in this area of the B-H curve, the permeability is no longer very linear and becomes highly nonlinear.
In a nonlinear core, putting in one frequency results in harmonic distortion, and that's what Mac is observing. I did the same thing he did a while back, although I did not use a magnet, just drove the core realy hard (loaded down the output and some other things) and I observed the same harmonics...
EM
Hey EM, maybe you can clear this up for me... let's say I have a ferrite rod with like 2000 initial permeability. Let's say I really juice it with some amps. Once the ferrite hits saturation, does it lose inductance? Like the millihenries go down? Or does it just "hit a wall" so to speak, and can't absord any more flux? Where does the extra flux go? Thanks
Quote from: Feynman on May 06, 2008, 11:39:54 PM
Hey EM, maybe you can clear this up for me... let's say I have a ferrite rod with like 2000 initial permeability. Let's say I really juice it with some amps. Once the ferrite hits saturation, does it lose inductance? Like the millihenries go down? Or does it just "hit a wall" so to speak, and can't absord any more flux? Where does the extra flux go? Thanks
Hi Feynman, you mentioned the answer: it looses the inductance.
to expand on this, the flux that has built up is still present in the core, so since the core is maxed out, or saturated, this means all the domains are aligned, so the core can NOT contribute anymore domains beyond that point if the current is increased.
So what alingns the domains? well, it's the current that flows through the windings and produces a magnetic field. So at a particular level of current (and it's associated magnetic field) the core gets saturated. If we increase the curent beyond that point, the flux will go up, but now it is only the flux of the coil as if it was wound with an air core, i.e. the core is useless magneticaly beyond that point, and might as well be thought of as a dielectric or some material with no magnetic properties.
Hopefully it is realized that the energy we have put in, and the flux, is still present in the inductor, nothing has been lost, it's just that beyond the point of saturation the rate of change of the flux with the current in the windings changes radically (it's not like a "wall" or sudden change, it's gradual and depends on the type of material)
EM
P.S. Notice it's a gradual change, but can look like a "sharp" transition depending on the level of magnification.
@EM
So instead of wasting energy of the pulse saturating the core, the hf pulse can travel on about the torroid. Something like a magnetic amplifier amplifying a signal that is stronger than the bias energy?
Good point.
Thanks EM, appreciate the info
HI
@LONER
you are ood think yes secondary coil is the MAGIC
I HAVE ALL READY TOLD IF YOU MAKE STANDARD TOROID COIL <PRY SEC COIL >>AAND PUT TE MAGNET THERE AS LIKE ME THE OUT POWER WHILL BE GOING DOWN
IF YOU MAKE LIKE ME THE YOUR TOROID SEC. COIL WHILL BE PRODUCED MORE OUT V AND A WHEN YOU PUT THE SMALL MAGNET
I HAVE TOD THAT THE SIMPLE TRANSFO IS NOT FORK JUST LIKE MY TOROID
IF YOU SEE THERE OUT HZ IS OT LIKE PRYMARY COIL FREKFEN <<<WAY>>
MAGNET IS ONLY FOR INCREASE AND TO TUNE EXSACTLY FREKFENCY OF RUNING
MY ATHER PROTOTYP NOW IM WORKING IS MUCH BIGER ABOUT 6" DIAMETER AND I HOPE WHILL MAKE SOON 5 OR 6 DAYS SOON
AND THAT PROTOTYP WHIL I HOPE FORK LIKE THIS""""""""
""""""...... <<<<<< I WHILL PUT AGAIN 50 HZ BUT OUT COIL WHILL GIVE <<2400 HZ>>
FIRST my test has whit small toroid has bing <<50hz in 200 hz out
the simple toroid or lets say pus frek you put 10khz or 50khz to in coil again you can have the same frek to hte out coil how is in frek sec. coil has the same frek as prmary coil THAT IS ORDENERY TRANS MY DIVICE IS LIKE TRANSFOR BUT NOT ORDENERY
IF I LIKE TO MAKE ANTHER TOROID TRANF.. I WHILL MAKE I N THE SAME THING BUT WHIT MANY 1000 FREKFEN OUT IF I WHANT
LIKE 50HZ IN OUT 5000HZ MY DIVICE MY PRODUCED THE FREK UP TO SPEED OF LIGHT ONLY WHIT SMALL IN FREKF .. LIKE 50 HZ OUT 1000000 OR MORE
IF I PUT MORE AAAAND MORE OUT FREK I WHILL HAVE MORE POWER IF I LIKE YES IS TRUE WAIT MY ANTHER VIDEO CLIP TO SEE MY BULB NOW I WHILL BE LIGHT I HOPE >>NOT STRNG BUT MORE POWER IN THE OUT COIL MY DIVICE GIVE MORE OUT ENRGY THE N IN
THE IMPORTANT IS THIS I HAVE MORE TEN IN ENEGY YOU MAKE AND TRAING TO MAKE THIS MORE THEN IN
S.M sid his divices is not free nergy divices this is mean that the s.m is put litle in enrgy like batery of <,pc>> my is 3 voilts
thanks see you whit beter features now i ehill give light now to see you beter ;) ;) ;)
Hi Mac!
The trick is permeating the core so the hf spike ( kick) excites the torroid copper instead of getting eaten up by the core permeability. The copper electron dipoles chase the kick magnetic field response and the copper atom gives up some of it's mass into energy. In essense burning the electrons. This does not involve the neucleus magnetic dipole moments.
The ambient electro-magnetic field restores the potential energy of the copper electrons, then you get to burn them again with another kick. The limiting factor will be how fast the backemf, which in this case is the only emf, can restore the copper potential energy.
Hi everyone,
I am new to the forums, well not new but I just registered. I have been
Reading all this information for a few years and now I have a scope and
All the testing equipment I need to start working on this little wonder!
I have a military background in electronics and I have access to a Lab
If I need. Most of my efforts from now on will be on the TPU style device.
Just wanted to say Hi all and I am determined to find the answer here, I am
not one to give up easily as I have been told.
Now to the other stuff Loner I am getting similar results as I can clearly see there
Is something else to this to make the freq increase on the sec I have a bunch of
Different windings that I have tested and they all do something similar.
MAC is the core Air or you using metal in the ring with different sections as in your
earlier posts?
I am going to run some tests with some wire I have alum stranded copper and steel
I am going to use the same lengths and wrap each type on copper Iron and steel
And see if there is any difference in what type of material I use!
Any more help would be great MAC! Are the sec windings vertical or horizontal
To the primary or neither figure 8 maybe with 2 rings, at this point it is anyone?s
Guess I will just have to test and see but the core material would be very helpful in
my testing!
If I do figure this out I will post it ALL for free as that?s what this forum is all about
FREE to the world and I strongly believe in that.
~Vision
22vision welcome we need good people you definitely sound like one and over here your with the best of the best Chet
hey @ new
how you have see my in this forum im i like to ansfer way you have pick me for test my divice <<HMMM >>YES YOU ARE I THING IN THE RAID ROAD
you have say you have posibilyty to make test whit help of you work place / ,<my english is bad but im traing to tapening beter >> :D
OH YOU ASK HOW IS MADE <,YES IS TOROID FERITH CORE >>AND NOW I DONT LIKE TO ANSFER HOW IS MADE THAT TURNS
BUT I ONLY TELL IS THAT <,THERE IS PRYMARY AND SECUNDARY COIL <,PICK UP COIL >..AND ALL THAT POINT HERE I ILKE TO SHOW IS THAT SMALL PERMANENT MAGNET IS INCREASE THE V AND milli amps all that is mesuring whit load resistor 12 ohms
the point i put 50 hz and i have 200 hz only whit toroid i have that increase the frek..
SOME GAYS SAY TO ME YES THAT INCREASE IS FOR THAT RESONANCE CAP IN THE PRYMARY COIL
THAT WAS THE REASONS WAY IS INCREASE THE FREK. UP TO 200 HZ
I SAID THIS THE CAP IS FOR RESONACE ONLY THAT BUT NOT FOR FREKFENCY INCREASE
ALL THAT STUFF IS THE COIL THERE NOTHING MORE + PERMANENT MAGNET
WHAT I WHILL SAY IS I NOW MAKE ANTHER TOROID WHIT I HOPE TO HAVE 2400 HZ ONLY WHIT 50HZ IN TO THE PRYMARY COIL
AND THEN I WHILL SEND I SOME BULB HOW IS LIGHT ;) ;) : ;) 8) 8) 8)
HELOO TO ALL I HAVE MADE VIDEO CLIP BUT IS 30 MEGA CAN YOU TELL ME ENY ONE HOW TO PUT THIS VIDEO HERE TO SEE
I WHILL SHOW IN VIDEO HOW IS DIFERENT MY INPUT AND OUT ENERGY
PLEASE ENY ONE FOR HELPME TO SEND THIS VIDEO HERE BUT IS 30 mega
thanks
here is my video link
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FNbPKwRv0
It's pretty hard to know what's going on. No sound? Or is it just me?
How are you measuring frequency?
And how are you showing a difference in input/output energy? The sparks on the screwdriver, compared to the label on the wall-wart? I have to say, that isn't good enough for me.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 10, 2008, 06:10:32 PM
here is my video link
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FNbPKwRv0
so ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, what are you trying to demonstrate in that video?
Quote from: poynt99 on November 10, 2008, 06:48:50 PM
so ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, what are you trying to demonstrate in that video?
*harhar* very good
A.
MAC I see a burned screwdriver Takes AMPS to do that
Would be nice to know how you are doing this
I understand the language barrier is hard
I appreciate your contribution and don't believe your a liar
Chet
hi
did you see what is say about me this <antimon this mast be some bariare here he dont anderstn what is that
ATHERE<<I LIKE TO SHOW WHAT CAN DO THE SMALL INPUT ENERGY <MY ADAPTER HAS MAX. OUT 7,5C WHIT 1 AMP >.BUT ALL MY STUFF INSAID IS COVER WHIT AND THIS STUFF HAS NEED A POWER ABOUT 0,3 AMPS WHIT 7 V DC >AND ABOUT 2 WATT INPUT
BUT THE OUT IS WOWWOWO SO STRONG TO MAKE HOLES AND MAKE DISTROING MY FLT ENDS OF MY OUT COIL
MY SPARKS IS LIKE FLAME
IS HAPEND THIS MY SCREWDRIVER IS STICK TO THE OUT COIL I MAST ALL TIME TO MAKE
MOVING TO NOT STICK TO THE OUT FLAT WIRE
THIS TPU WHIT THE SAME THINGS YOU ARE SEE I HAVE PUT BULB 20WATT AND THE BULB IS BROKEN IN ONLY 2 SECOND
ANTHER I HAVE TRAED TO PUT BAHERY TO OUT COIL I HAVE PUT 4,5 VOLT BATER BIG ONE <<3 1,5 V BATHER LIKE ONE 4,5V>
AND THE BATERY IS GETHING HOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS AND IS HAS DANEGER TO CONTINUE CHARGE I WHILL AKE ANTHER VIDEO TOMOROU WHIT MORE CLEAR VIDEO
]IM LIMITED OF MY CAMERA YOU ONLY SEE THE SPARK NOT THE FLAME <WHIT LIGHT STRONG >BEACOUSE IS FAST <CAMERA IS NO GOOD FRAME>
I CAN TELL NOW THAT IS NEW TOTAL NEW AND DIFERENT TEXNOLOGY AND IS NOT CLASICAL LIKE PUSING OR ATHER STUFF
IS TOTAL DIFERENT
<<S.M old post for mannix when is expalne whit 1000 pieces wire and pararlel or serila and moving magnet like bulyth speed that is all here in to my tpu
i only say to all now
this YOU ASK WAY AND WHAT IS MAKES VIBRATIONS IN S.M TPU
I ONLY SAY MY TPU IS HAS THE VIBRTAION EFECKT NOT STRONG LITLE VIBRATION
\\\\\\\
VBRATION PRODUCED ONLY COLECTORS COILS NOTHING ATHERE COELECOTR COILS MAKE THIS
IF YOU HAVE MORE COLECTOR YOU HAVE MORE VIBRATION RESISTHING FORCE
MY TPU GIVE TO ME 190 V I THING THE SO POWERFULL AMPS IS ABOUT 40 AMPS
IS HARD TO SEE WHIT NO GOOD CAM VIDEO BUT IF YOU ARE CLOUSE THIS TPU WHEN I PUT SHORT THERE IS VERY STRONG BANG BANGMY FLAT WHILL DISTROYNG IF I CONTINUE WHIT SHORT I NEED ABOUT MINUTE FOR COMPLET DISTRYNG THE FLAT ENDS WIRE OF MY OUT COILS
YOU ASK FREK. YES THERE IS FREK OF COURSE
AND MY TPU IS WORKING LIKE RECIVENG SOME THINGS LIKE THIS
YES IS VACUM TPU AND HAS VIBRATION
AND IS FREKFENCY SENSITIVE IF I PUT HAND TO HIM I HAVE GREATED PROGRESS WHIT THIS BUT I NEED JUST SOME SIMPLE THING TO TUNE PARTS AND TO BE COMPLETED AND MAKE JOB FOR STANDARD DEVICES TO WORK PROPERLY WHIT THIS <,TOROIDAL POWER GENERATOR
IF YOU TAKE ALL THIS STUFF IS NOT LIKE ORDENERY CLASICAL OR ELKTRONICS STUF THIS IS ANTHER TYPE OF ELKTRYCYTY HERE
BUT IF YOU MAKE SETUP TO MAKE TUNE TO WORK TO THIS CLASICAL DEVICES LIKE <,TV , LIKE BULBS ,OR HEATS DEVICES >.THEN IS
BEFORE OF THIS SETUP I HAVE ASK YOU WHARE IS NICK NAME <<TAO>>NOBODY ANSFER ME
I THING THE TAO HAS MADE THIS <BRAVO>
I HAVE READ HIS POST HERE AND I HAVE FIND THE TRUE I THING
MY TPU IS NOT TOTAL COMPLETED BUT I WHILL FINISH
WAY IS 3 DIFERENT DEVICES HAS S.M <<I SAY THE DIMENSIONS AND FORM IS NOT IMPORTANT <,IMPORTANT IS HOW TO MAKE SETUP PROPERLY
FOR NOW I THING IS OK THIS
I LIKE YOU REPLY HER PLEASE CONTINUE MY THEATHRE
BY
@mac
Thanks for the video. I think you are on to something. I am sure if you post your schematics and get other people involved, you will get there quicker.
Regards
AM
im pretty sure mac is well beond getting there lol
i have spent some time talking with mac over the last year or so ...
mac can you do the light bulbs??
also a drawing i will duplicate it ... and it also looks as tho your adaptor has an over load curcuit in it thus makeing the pluse
almost the same as my tesla diode.....
hummmmm
great work mac 8)
ist
as a side note is your coil bifillar copper and steel those sparks look like the ones i get when i run electricty through steel wire ....
do u have alum foil in it too ?
Yes, great work macedonia. Would be great if you could provide a drawing of what you have done. From what we see in the video, it looks like a lot of power. Thanks for sharing.
@MACEDONIA,
if you are still using the weak magnets, I think I know why they work as you demonstrated in your previous little toroid video. It is all in TESLA. Nothing to do with saturated cores. It is all to do with "spliting the positive" :)
Fausto.
MAC,
can you post drawing of setup?
here is my first pic from my small tpu
<<< http://d.imagehost.org/view/0883/FIRST_EXPERIMENT_PIC_SMALL_TPU.jpg >>>
Yeaaaaa. GOOD JOB MACEDONIA.
Are you willing to share the inner workings and how to build one ourselfs? Please?
Fausto.
;D
awsome MAC!!!
;D
ist
Flaming discharge and a burned screwdriver are not indications of "high power" or even high current. This is readily achived with a high frequency disruptive discharge coil.
I am not saying that you do not have a lot of power, just that you need to do a resistance load test.
Short output with a small carbon rod from pencil (to write with) - what happens?
Carbon explodes or just gets hot?
added - http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/2006/PancakeCoils8.htm (flaming discharge)
Quote from: Gobaga on November 13, 2008, 11:56:14 AM
Flaming discharge and a burned screwdriver are not indications of "high power" or even high current. This is readily achived with a high frequency disruptive discharge coil.
I am not saying that you do not have a lot of power, just that you need to do a resistance load test.
Short output with a small carbon rod from pencil (to write with) - what happens?
Carbon explodes or just gets hot?
added - http://www.electrotherapymuseum.com/2006/PancakeCoils8.htm (flaming discharge)
MAC, Gobaga has echoed here what I said in the fraud thread. So are you going to make some REAL measurements or just assume?
I'm just waiting for RESULTS, measurements of input and output power and i want see the magic circuit :)
MAC, what happened?
A.
@MAC Your RESULTS so far ' wonderful '
YES your little TPU "BURNS STEEL" at 4 watts or less !! {should not be possible, but you do it}
I believe you said something is different about the electricity that you are getting ?
Does this burn up your test equipment?
will your equipment even measure it ?
" GREAT STUFF MAC" Chet
@ramset
you say god things
I SAY AGAIN THIS ELKTRICYTY IS TOTALY DIFERENT OF CLASICS AND I SAY FREE NOW THIS KIND OF ELKTRICYTY IS SO POWERFULL THEN CLASICAL YES MY MESURING THIS I HAVE DISTROING ONE OF MY SMALL INSTRUMENT AND NOW I MESURING ONLY WHIT <<FLUKE >
THIS IS ANTHERE STUFF
I SAY THIS IF YOU WHANT TO PRODUCED THIS FORCE LIKE MY DEVICES IN THE SHORT IN OUT COILS YOU WHILL SAY <<<TO HAVE THIS POWER YOU NEED BIG ELKTROMAGNET FILD TO CONTROL COILS >>
BUT NO NO NO THERE IS NOT STRONG ELKTROMAGNET FILD YES IS HAS ELKTROMAGNET FILD BUT IS VERY VERY VERY SMALL << YOU WHILL SEE IN THE SECOND VIDEO CLIP I WHILL SEND TO SEE <<THERE IS WHILLPUT SMALL NEO MAGNET AND I WHILL STRAT THE DEVICES AND YOU WHILL SEE THAT THE NEO MAG. WHILL NOT MOVE
FOR THIS NEO I WHILL PROVET TO YOU THAT IS THERE IS NOT STRONG ELKTROMAGNET FILD
I SAY HAS ELKTROMAGNET BUT IS VERY LOW
IF YOU TRAED TO PRODUCED SMALL ELKTROMAGNET FILD AND THEN MAKE SECNDARY COILS AND YOU WHILL SEE THERE WHILL BE NOT ENY SPARKS OR FLAME OR SOEM POWERFULL FORCE
I WHILL SEND VIDEO TO SEE
S.M IS MAKE THIS AND SHOW TO ALL WHEN HE PUT CLOUSE TO TPU A PERMANENT MAGNET TO HIM AND NOTHING IS CHANGE WHEN IS MAGNET TO TPU
THAT EXPLANE THAT DEVICES IS NOT WORK IN ELKTROMAGNETS FILD S
THIS IS TOTALU DIFERENT TEXNOLOGY AND IS GREAT TEXNOLOGY
EVERTHING S.M SAY IS THERE IS NEED ONLY SMALL MAGNET FILD OR ELKTROMAGNET FILD TO DOING THIS JOB
YES IS TRUE
MAGNET OF EARTH IS SO SMALL AND WHILL PRODUCED THIS I HAVE PUT SMALL ELKTROMAGNET AND IS TRUE
ONLY SMALL MAG. OR ELEKTROMAGNET WHILL DO THIS WHITOUT PROBLEM
OHHHHHHHHHHH
THANKS FOR YOU TIME READING THIS LITLE MAN FROM LITLLE COUNTRY
Hi Macedonia CD and all.
I think you have really shown something new here.
I don´t agree with EMDevices, that the 1st video uploaded to Mediafire
server is just a saturated transformer effect.
Otherwise we would just see a very distorted sine wave, but not 3 pulse spikes !
Macedonia CD is on to something great and he seems to get
lots of output power which his latest screwdriver
video shows.
Macedonia, do you post also the schematic ( circuit diagram) ?
How did you wind your coils to get these 3 spikes effect ?
Reminds me about my experiments with the
DrStiffler circuit where I also saw something simular
with the magnet adding output amplitude,
but there it was in the MHz range...Hmm...
Macedonia, did you wind the 2 coils in your first video
onto a ferrite ring core ? Otherwise the 2 magnets would not have sticked...
By the way, if Macedonia speaks about "forking"
he means "working" probably...
So all words with "forking" and "fork"
must be translated to "working" and "work"
I guess.
Many thanks Macedonia and keep your information coming.
You have great progress.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
I took a snapshot of the output coil scope waveform
Macedonia CD presented in his first video.
He said these are 200 Hz pulses from his 50 Hz sine input from
the grid at the 12 Ohm load resistor of his output coil.
How can this be achieved with what 2 coil windings
on a ? ferrite ? toroid with 2 ferrite magnets ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
As most of us appreciate, a scope photo is nearly useless unless accompanied by :
Horizontal (time) scale setting
Vertical (voltage) setting
Probe type (attenuation) used
Scope+probe input impedance
And, it would be helpful in these cases to see a dual-trace display, showing input voltage to be compared to output voltage.
I know you know this, Stefan.
Perhaps MACEDONIA CD will take note and give us some real data.
hi stefan and ather
FIRST STEFAN IS ANSFER FOR YOU
this first my video is not eny conection whit this second video
whit first video i have like to test how is posible to increase the frekfency and amplitude only whit simple magnets and i have provet
i thing is good thing to have this kind of circuits for only doing this increase frek. and amplitude of out enrgy
i have long time explane to marco how is posible to encrease the frek only whitout eny kind elktronics parts whit this test i have provet that if i have lets say i put one single hz i whill simple increase the frek out to what i whant and is true this
you can only thing like moving magnet to two coils and then i have whit one half frek of one hz i whill have 2 hz impulses if i have complete one hz input then iwhill have 4 hz to exit coils
AND I HAVE PUT 50 HZ AND I HAVE 200 HZ TO MY OUT BUT MAGNETS IS FOR ATHER THING FOR AMPLITUDE OF OUT COILS
THIS ID NO ENY KIND OF CONECTION WHIT THIS SECOND VIDEO
WHIT SECOND VIDEO I HAVE NO NEED MAGNTES BUT I WHILL SHOW YOU THAT MY DEVICES IS NOT NEED THE MAGNTE AND MAGNETS DONT EFFECKT TO DEVICE
AGAIN I SAY IM ONLY HAVE SMALL ELKTROMAGNET FILD TO PRODUCED THIS SPARKS AND FLAME
I HAVE PROVET TO MY SELF THAT IS NOT ONLY SOURCE MAGNET OR ELKTROMAGNET TO PRODUCED TO MOVE ELKTRONES
THERE IS SOME ATHER FORCE LIKE MAGNET HO IS ABLE TO MAKE EASY WAY AND SMALL ENRGY TO MOVE ELKTRONES
<<WHIT SMALL ENRGY LIKE ELKTROMAGNET FILD IS POSIBLE TO MOVE MORE AND MORE ELKTRONES IN OUT WIRE AND TO PRODUCED SO MORE ELTRONES TO MOVE IN OUT COILS
IN THIS I SAY IF YOU NEED MORE ENRGY TO CREATED ELKTROMAGNET FILD THAT FILD WHILL PRODUCED ENRGY TO OUT COILS BUT WHIT MAX<<1 < 0,8 COP
BUT WHIT THIS WE MAST PUT MORE POWER IN THEN WHILL BE GET TO EXIT
BUT WE HAVE DONT KNOW THAT THE ELKTRONES IN WIRE WHILL MOVE WHIT ATHERE TYPE OF ENERGY <INPUT ENRGY>
AND IS GREAT THING BUT IS NEED TO SEARCH THING AND DISCOVER THIS STRANG ELKTRICYTY MAYBE THIS IS ONLY JUST SMALL SPARKS AND AMPERS I HAVE TO MY DEVICE MAYBE I WHILL PRODUCED MORE AMPS THERE WHIT THE SAME INPUT ADAPTER
THANKS FOR SUPORT ME I WHIL CONTINUE WHIT SEARCHING FOR MAX OUT MAYBE THISS IS I LITLE ENRGY
THANKS
Many thanks MACEDONIA CD for the additionals infos.
Are you going to share your circuit diagrams soon ?
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 14, 2008, 07:12:21 PM
hi stefan and ather
FIRST STEFAN IS ANSFER FOR YOU
this first my video is not eny conection whit this second video
whit first video i have like to test how is posible to increase the frekfency and amplitude only whit simple magnets and i have provet
i thing is good thing to have this kind of circuits for only doing this increase frek. and amplitude of out enrgy
i have long time explane to marco how is posible to encrease the frek only whitout eny kind elktronics parts whit this test i have provet that if i have lets say i put one single hz i whill simple increase the frek out to what i whant and is true this
you can only thing like moving magnet to two coils and then i have whit one half frek of one hz i whill have 2 hz impulses if i have complete one hz input then iwhill have 4 hz to exit coils
AND I HAVE PUT 50 HZ AND I HAVE 200 HZ TO MY OUT BUT MAGNETS IS FOR ATHER THING FOR AMPLITUDE OF OUT COILS
THIS ID NO ENY KIND OF CONECTION WHIT THIS SECOND VIDEO
WHIT SECOND VIDEO I HAVE NO NEED MAGNTES BUT I WHILL SHOW YOU THAT MY DEVICES IS NOT NEED THE MAGNTE AND MAGNETS DONT EFFECKT TO DEVICE
AGAIN I SAY IM ONLY HAVE SMALL ELKTROMAGNET FILD TO PRODUCED THIS SPARKS AND FLAME
I HAVE PROVET TO MY SELF THAT IS NOT ONLY SOURCE MAGNET OR ELKTROMAGNET TO PRODUCED TO MOVE ELKTRONES
THERE IS SOME ATHER FORCE LIKE MAGNET HO IS ABLE TO MAKE EASY WAY AND SMALL ENRGY TO MOVE ELKTRONES
<<WHIT SMALL ENRGY LIKE ELKTROMAGNET FILD IS POSIBLE TO MOVE MORE AND MORE ELKTRONES IN OUT WIRE AND TO PRODUCED SO MORE ELTRONES TO MOVE IN OUT COILS
IN THIS I SAY IF YOU NEED MORE ENRGY TO CREATED ELKTROMAGNET FILD THAT FILD WHILL PRODUCED ENRGY TO OUT COILS BUT WHIT MAX<<1 < 0,8 COP
BUT WHIT THIS WE MAST PUT MORE POWER IN THEN WHILL BE GET TO EXIT
BUT WE HAVE DONT KNOW THAT THE ELKTRONES IN WIRE WHILL MOVE WHIT ATHERE TYPE OF ENERGY <INPUT ENRGY>
AND IS GREAT THING BUT IS NEED TO SEARCH THING AND DISCOVER THIS STRANG ELKTRICYTY MAYBE THIS IS ONLY JUST SMALL SPARKS AND AMPERS I HAVE TO MY DEVICE MAYBE I WHILL PRODUCED MORE AMPS THERE WHIT THE SAME INPUT ADAPTER
THANKS FOR SUPORT ME I WHIL CONTINUE WHIT SEARCHING FOR MAX OUT MAYBE THISS IS I LITLE ENRGY
THANKS
Hi Mac,
Would you please show people what you have done using as many diagrams as you can do,or lots more closeup pictures .
I , and others have extreme difficulty with the language problem.
other will help if they know exactly where you are up to
Perhaps there is somebody who speaks your language who will help also.
Lindsay
Yes, many thanks to Mac for the info.
@mac, I'm wondering if you use a pulsing scheme like in this diagram. This circuit should amplify the current very similarly to your video demonstration. There are other related buck or boost type of DC2DC converter circuits, and if you feed their output into a transformer, like the TPU, you will get a reduction or an amplification of current, but if you get an amplification of voltage as well, then that's wonderful, it means power amplification is occurring, but we need exact measurements first to be sure.
anyway, these are my thoughts at the moment.
-EM
@EMdevices,
I see that you are showing a "copy" of Tesla coils circuit. Can YOU show a similiar setup with that circuit with the same effects that MACEDONIA has? (to think this is what he is doing?!!)
I see the difficulty with MAC's demonstrations but none from US of validating anything, just sitting and asking for things and worse, discrediting with more questions and guesses.
@All,
Would be possible anyone here is working on these ideas and showing ANY signs of ANY results whatsoever?
I just re-started reading SM pdf and it seams, now after 2 years, that it is very reasonable and logical. Even better, it seams that MAC is showing signs of real science with pratical results that corroborate with SM's sayings. Does anyone here believe SM is for real???? Anyone???
Where is Jack Durban showing his intelectual expertise with hands-on and sighs on SM's devices??
I like Stefan approach always polite and inquisitive, but you guys (the guys I have seen for over 2 years) only asking not showing????
COME ON!
Lets work on this puzzle. I really think MAC is on the right path. SM is on the right track. We are on the wrong track.
Drop the EE conventional. It has proven itself to not work at all in at least 100+ years.
Fausto.
Quote from: plengo on November 14, 2008, 11:06:53 PM
@EMdevices,
I see that you are showing a "copy" of Tesla coils circuit. Can YOU show a similiar setup with that circuit with the same effects that MACEDONIA has? (to think this is what he is doing?!!)
I see the difficulty with MAC's demonstrations but none from US of validating anything, just sitting and asking for things and worse, discrediting with more questions and guesses.
@All,
Would be possible anyone here is working on these ideas and showing ANY signs of ANY results whatsoever?
I just re-started reading SM pdf and it seams, now after 2 years, that it is very reasonable and logical. Even better, it seams that MAC is showing signs of real science with pratical results that corroborate with SM's sayings. Does anyone here believe SM is for real???? Anyone???
Where is Jack Durban showing his intelectual expertise with hands-on and sighs on SM's devices??
I like Stefan approach always polite and inquisitive, but you guys (the guys I have seen for over 2 years) only asking not showing????
COME ON!
Lets work on this puzzle. I really think MAC is on the right path. SM is on the right track. We are on the wrong track.
Drop the EE conventional. It has proven itself to not work at all in at least 100+ years.
Fausto.
??? ??? ??? Huh?
ahhhhhhhhhhh, the reasons that questions are being asked and measurements requested, is because the scientific method IS NOT being used, otherwise there would be no need to ask.
Fuasto, please explain what exactly MAC has and how to replicate it. please explain what the "real science and practical results" are here..............................right, didn't think so. you can't do it because it is not possible with only a video showing big slow sparks. where is your device then?
i don't have one because i don't need to build a DC to DC converter to know how one works. if MAC wants some serious attention, he is going to have to show how and why it is different than a DC to DC converter, and proof that it is OU. why should i rush into building a device to duplicate his "results" when i don't even know for sure what his "results" are, because they are not posted. a picture or video showing big slow sparks is inconclusive, it proves only that one has made a big slow sparker. i can do that too, and a dozen other people here can do as well. but i don't need to build a DC/DC converter to prove to myself that it works and can convert voltages and currents. i already know this. a picture or video of sparks is nice, but it has little meaning. numbers are what is needed to give meaning to anything....numbers! why are so many afraid to test their devices and post numbers ??? come on MAC you have the know-how. a simple test if done correctly can tell so much.
this is the scientific method!
come on MAC, you can do it!
@poynt99,
yes this is the scientific method, measure, test, repeat, theorize, and so on. We are here to build expand and create. He IS doing something. Let's work upon it not just ask and "give me give me".
If you have a device that shows DC to DC good, show it too, but not showing and just asking is not good either, is it?
I think MAC has pointed enough theory (good or not) about his ideas and I think he even showed one very good example with the magnets and the toroid. Have you tried and demonstrated that he is "not scientific" enough, or even mistaken?
THAT'S MY POINT. He is doing it, we are not and we are ALL complaining and saying: "WE know better, we have done it. He must be wrong".
He showed a very good point about amplifying the frequency using resonance (aka Tesla primary coil) and magnetic induction although not in the ordinary sence. Have you tried and disproved him? That is the role of science:
- he demonstrated a theory that must be falsifiable. (The frequency amplification via magnets)
- we must falsify it, not just repute it with words but facts.
Show it that he is wrong on that one point before disputing his next demonstration with videos (which people already complained that he did not have any and now that he has and still people complained).
We MUST approach this at a very positive and scientific method via not only theory and inquiries but also by each one's experiments and data analysis. Where is your data to refute him?
I have not been saying anything "against" him so far because I dont have anything to dispute him so far either even in my labs. SO I stay quite. BUT this time I think he is onto something extra-ordinary.
Let's build it.
Fausto.
Hi all,
Do you know who is MAC. He is the guy use the '?' Logo so call riddle man in BAT MAN movie. Why he covered his circuit in the video? Because he want to carry out a big riddle. All his post are riddles not English problem, but inference problem.
sorry mate, but you've got it completely backwards. you aren't getting it.
we are here to discover and develop things that are new. things that are beyond the norm. if and when someone comes here and posts something claiming that it has never been done before, then they had better have hard evidence to support that claim, and if they don't then in my opinion, they open themselves up here to skepticism. if they can not handle it, or others can't handle it then maybe they should not be posting such things.
once you step through that doorway, you can never go back. you have committed yourself, and you had better be prepared to face skepticism and questions, especially if you have not provided any hard evidence by way of tests and numbers to prove your claim. it's as simple as that my friend.
@ Plengo
I agree with you 100% ;D
Let's build it..Yes ;D ;D
I've been reading this thread and other TPU threads but never commented because to tell the truth it's way above my head :P but after seeing MAC's video lets say it was an anomaly I've never seen before so I would like to replicate it just to check it out but we need to have a concerted effort to bring diagram(s) that completely reveal the building electrical distribution process in order to create a theory of operation ;D Does anyone know how to translate all the relevant information from MAC enough to start with what he has in the video ???
There's a lot I don't understand about this simple coil's IP/OP gain potential other than it's powered by a small AC/DC wall wart and makes incredible sparks and damage to the screwdriver :o :o, I noticed that there were flat wires being used, was I dreaming ??? and what else is there to learn about this setup ???
Regards,
Paul
Quote from: Goat on November 15, 2008, 02:52:00 AM
@ Plengo
I agree with you 100% ;D
Let's build it..Yes ;D ;D
I've been reading this thread and other TPU threads but never commented because to tell the truth it's way above my head :P but after seeing MAC's video lets say it was an anomaly I've never seen before so I would like to replicate it just to check it out but we need to have a concerted effort to bring diagram(s) that completely reveal the building electrical distribution process in order to create a theory of operation ;D Does anyone know how to translate all the relevant information from MAC enough to start with what he has in the video ???
There's a lot I don't understand about this simple coil's IP/OP gain potential other than it's powered by a small AC/DC wall wart and makes incredible sparks and damage to the screwdriver :o :o, I noticed that there were flat wires being used, was I dreaming ??? and what else is there to learn about this setup ???
Regards,
Paul
this is the problem. you can't build it if you don't have the slightest clue how to go about it. plengo doesn't know how it is built nor how it works. only MAC knows how it's built and he aint talkin'. be enthusiastic as you want, be curious as you desire, that's all great, but until MAC gives you the plans, it's not possible to build the same, especially if basic electronics is already over your head. i would encourage both to go get some basic electronics knowledge before jumping on any bandwagons labeled "OU".
First of all he never said the adapter was producing 7.5 volts dc output. It is a dc adapter but you can easily open these adapters and take out the bridge rectifier and what do you get, a 7.5 v AC, so there is your 50 hz AC which is in a way two 50 hz half pulses. With each half pulse he is making 2 full pulses, or with each full cycle he is making 4 cycles to work then at 200 hz.
So each cycle is split into 4 cycles or 4 coils which are receiving the 7.5 volts in parallel.
But if each cycle was sent into a Tesla style ozone patent then you would only require two sets to make four movements (or four cycles). Why, because you will get two movements, one at short and one off short. So two sets producing high voltage short circuits with the coil outputs then sent together onto his output cylinder which is probably lots of layers of parallel lines that will re-compress the high voltage output into less voltage but more amperage.
This may be wrong but it is a start in explaining his method that he has tried to explain here many times.
MAC did not show the time and voltage during spark., no one knows if there has any OU. Because energy involves Time *Volt* Current. Still waiting for further information.
Quote from: wattsup on November 15, 2008, 06:53:12 AM
First of all he never said the adapter was producing 7.5 volts dc output. It is a dc adapter but you can easily open these adapters and take out the bridge rectifier and what do you get, a 7.5 v AC, so there is your 50 hz AC which is in a way two 50 hz half pulses. With each half pulse he is making 2 full pulses, or with each full cycle he is making 4 cycles to work then at 200 hz.
So each cycle is split into 4 cycles or 4 coils which are receiving the 7.5 volts in parallel.
But if each cycle was sent into a Tesla style ozone patent then you would only require two sets to make four movements (or four cycles). Why, because you will get two movements, one at short and one off short. So two sets producing high voltage short circuits with the coil outputs then sent together onto his output cylinder which is probably lots of layers of parallel lines that will re-compress the high voltage output into less voltage but more amperage.
This may be wrong but it is a start in explaining his method that he has tried to explain here many times.
??? ??? Huh? more gobeldygook and quite a stretch.
he already said that his previous experiment of changing 50 Hz to 200 Hz had nothing to do with this new demonstration/device, so its not about 200 Hz or any frequency multiplication.
no explanation for this latest device has been given at all.
Tosky, Chef, Mannix, Tinselkoala, Gobaga, and Antimon have all said the right things here. take note and sober up to what is being said here. this is logical and common sense stuff. the kind of stuff that is sorely lacking here. it is not being negative, it is being scientific. learn the difference.
Energy must be seperated from time. We are looking for energy scources aren't we? When a magnet is moved across a wire we get VOLTAGE or charge seperation at the ends of the wire. Does this voltage come from the mass of the wire or does it get sucked out of the magnet? It appears because we changed the magnetic field about the conductor period. The conductor mass does the work to make this voltage appear at the end of the wire. All we did is put the permanent magnet flux in the same inertial frame of the conductor and then take it away. The mass does the work and adjusts to the new magnetic field parmeters. The voltage appears at the end of the wire no matter if there is current in the conductor or not. Now if this voltage upsets the dielectric field say near a capacitor plate it will result in a current inside the capacitor. This current does not result in a magnetic field that opposes the field around the permanent magnet because it is in a different inertial frame than the permanent magnet flux. This is not going to happen if the voltage at the termination of the wires never influences a capacitor, like when an alternator is connected directly to a resistive load. This power will be dropped across the transmission lines and resistive loads. But if this magnetic pulse feeds it's power into a reactive system things start to go way up in efficient use of waving a magnet around.
Why don't power companies do this? Because who the fuck would need them?
Edison was a moron working for slave drivers. He couldn't come up with an original idea to save his soul. Fuck him and his watt waster.
Quote from: tosky on November 15, 2008, 02:25:43 AM
Hi all,
Do you know who is MAC. He is the guy use the '?' Logo so call riddle man in BAT MAN movie. Why he covered his circuit in the video? Because he want to carry out a big riddle. All his post are riddles not English problem, but inference problem.
so just ask he him who he is?
he has post is email long time ago
"thi is my email <<<<<<<<<< cede74sk@yahoo.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"or that youtube video he has hotmail but enyway
bye
@poynt99
The only "gobbledeegook" is coming from you. No positive input. No ideas, only shit.
If you can come up with anything half as plausible as above fine, otherwise quit trying to teach your elementary crap, which is a run of the mill that we all know already but you keep on repeating here and there to become the grand pooba of OU validity. What crap. As if @MAC and others did not know how to prove OU and we need you to spell it out.
Quote from: wattsup on November 15, 2008, 11:14:02 AM
@poynt99
The only "gobbledeegook" is coming from you. No positive input. No ideas, only shit.
If you can come up with anything half as plausible as above fine, otherwise quit trying to teach your elementary crap, which is a run of the mill that we all know already but you keep on repeating here and there to become the grand pooba of OU validity. What crap. As if @MAC and others did not know how to prove OU and we need you to spell it out.
hey, don't take my word for it. did you see the list of names i mentioned? i am not competing with this design. i am not competing for attention or control. if one looks closely with detached emotions, they'll see that the facts and logic speak clearly for themselves, if only mentioned. that is all that i and the others have done is brought some clarity of thought into the discussion here. it is not gobbledeegook at all if you look at it from a scientific point of view. i can tell you with certainty that you are grossly outnumbered, and that should rise a thought in your consciousness.
most do not post because they do not want to become entangled in this sticky mess. but trust me, they are out there and they're saying to themselves the same things that some here find hard to swallow.
break out of that shell and focus on the facts, not the people.
wattsup, you are very good at dissecting a picture, the very best here on ou without a doubt. apply that same tenacity to dissecting the facts and what has been presented here, and you will come to similar conclusions and realizations, if you allow it. if however you let emotions get in the way and hinder your objectivity, then for sure you will keep blindly clinging to anything put before you that appeals to your ego and longing for the holy grail of OU.
don't shoot the messenger....and it is only a message.
@Mac Thanks for sharing
I believe Timothy Thrapp said they[ 20 scientists in twenty years] had discovered 27 different types of electricity
I hope you can figure this one out[your discovery]
@Plengo is a builder, and an amazing member of this group
@Marco@Poynt @Wattsup @Tinsel Koala @ Sparks @EM @@......ETC
are also amazing contributers to this group
While it may seem that some are holding your discovery to standards [existing science] that may or may not apply .
I hope you don't see them as ingrates
I wish you the best in your research and look forward to anything else that you can share
Chet
Quote from: wattsup on November 15, 2008, 11:14:02 AM
@poynt99
The only "gobbledeegook" is coming from you. No positive input. No ideas, only shit.
If you can come up with anything half as plausible as above fine, otherwise quit trying to teach your elementary crap, which is a run of the mill that we all know already but you keep on repeating here and there to become the grand pooba of OU validity. What crap. As if @MAC and others did not know how to prove OU and we need you to spell it out.
Only shit? and what have you posted? Not one shred of elementary logic. Poynt99 is just trying to get Mac-CD to verify what he has - that's all - what the Hell is wrong with that? - not a damn thing!
You cling to an "arc" on the tube as though it were the Shroud of the Turin.
Chances are that Mac-CD only have a high frequency current - otherwise the element in the bulb would not break. Simple to verify - just change the frequency and the element in the bulb won't break. Also, if he had the "mysterious other energy" the bulb might light and you might not have melting arcs - not to say that he could not have some combination of both.
All,
please come back to a rational discussion.
Thanks.
I just reviewed all the latest postings of user Macedonia CD and I guess
I have an idea, how he is doing it.
He said in another thread :
Quote
the video is not very good but the sparks and the flat metal i show that is ther strong ampers here is video link
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FNbPKwRv0
I guess he really uses some kind of circuit that EM Devices has drawn the circuit diagram.
Have a look at these 3 pictures I captured from his video.
He probably uses a meal can which is splitted in half at one side
and has wrapped around it 90 degrees some isolated copper wire
as the primary winding and just uses this splitted meal zinc can as the secondary
winding, which only has an ONE turn winding.
So he has lots of amps there but probably only spikes voltages.
So it is basically a transformer with 1 big flat wire turn as the secondardy coil.
As Macedonia CD says, it got 190 Volts on it,
hmm, that is probably only in spikes and not a constant DC voltage ?
But okay, it can kill a 220 Volts 20 Watts bulbs.
Hi Macedonia, please try to put 2 x 220 Volts bulbs in series
and please show us in another video, if they light up
constantly or only in pulses...
I guess he is pulsing at a low Hz rate to the primary, so the sparks
come only up in a few Hz rhythm.
So it is hard to say, if it is really overunity, as the input is connected
all the time, but the output is only there for a short time, when these transfomer coils
discharge their stored energy...
I had the idea, because the connections are so flat, that it can only
be from a zincated meal can...
Regards, Stefan.
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I rewatched his sparking again several times and when he touches the 2 flat can metal ends with the
screwdriver and when he does not move the screwdriver
you can see, that the sparking apears from alone about 3 to 10 times per second
so now it is clear to me, that the driver circuit is only producing pulses to drive the primary
coil and that the output is not a constant 190 Volts DC output, but only in induction
pulses.
Otherwise the screwdriver would stick more to the can and the contacts would get red hot,
but we only see pulsed sparks, so the driver circuit is really only a discharge
3 to 10 times into the primary coil wound around the zinc meal can.
At a constant 7.5 Volts x 1 Ampere= 7.5 Watts input this should be no problem,
so as long as we don´t see a more constant output power, I guess
this is not overunity.
But anyway, an interesting experiment.
Please Macedonia CD keep on experimenting.
Maybe you can use a bridge rectifier at the can output coil
and feed it to a big cap and have a 190 Volts DC on it,
sou you could power constantly a 220 Volts 40Watts bulb ?
Be careful, DC Voltage at this level is much more dangerous than
AC at this level.
Good luck.
Regards, Stefan.
Hi Macedonia CD,
so I am really still more interested in your first video,
where you could produce the 3 spikes by placing the 2 magnets
to the 2 coil setup.
Will you tell us, how you did this ?
Many thanks.
My words :) Nobody believed me
A.
Antimon your" WORDS" were quite a bit more condescending
Chet
HI HARTI
I HAVE READ THIS YOUR REPLY BUT
WHAT IS FOR YOU REAL POWER WHAT FREKFENCY ??? IS THE 50HZ OR 60HZ <<OR MY LETS 3 OR 10 HZ
THE PINT IS TRUE
YOUSAY IS PULSING YES I M PULSING
OK IF YOU MAKE PUSING T PRYAMRY AND SECUNDARY COILS GET LIKE ME WHIT THIS SPARKS WHIT 3 HZ TIS STRNG SPARKS AMPERS
I THING YOU WHILL NOT HAVE THIS AMPERS I HAVE NOT CHARGE THE ENRGY OUT AND THEN REALEASET FOR
OK IF I CHARGE LETS SAY SOME OUT ENRGY ABOUT 0,2 SECOND WHIT THIS STRONG AMPERS
WHAT I WHILL NEED TO GET THIS STRONG FLAME AND AMPS
IS NOT POSIBLE
I SAY AGAIN MY ADAPTER IS 7,5 WATT TOTAL MAX. OUT ENRGY IS ABLE TO GIVE
BUT MY DEVICES IS NOT NEED ALL 7,5 WATT
<<MY DEVICES IS NEED 7,5 V 0,3 AMPS
THAT IS NOT 7,5 WATT INPUT
OK AND SUMARY OF THIS YOU TAKE THIS 7,5 * 0,3 = 2,25 WATT INPUT
MAKE SOME OSCILATOR CHARGE THE OUT COILS FOR EVERY <0,2 SECOND WHIT >>
WHIT ABOUT 40 AMPS
I HAVE FOR EVERY 0,2 SECOND ABOUT 40 AMPS
AND IS ALL THIS ENERGY MAST CAME FROM A SMALL ADAPTER AND YOU MAST HAVE FOR EVERY 0,2 SECOND STRONG AMPERS IN TO OUT COILS
I HAVE MADE THIS <<@ HARTI>.
THIS IS NOT CLASICAL ENERGY THIS IS NEWW TYPE OF ENRGY BUT I NEED SOME LITLLE TIME TO FINISH MY DEVICE TO CONVERT THIS PULSES TO DC
YOU SEE THIS DEVICES IS ABLE TO PRODUCED FOR EVERY 0,2 OR 0,3 SECOND
VERY VERY STRONG AMPS
THIS I SAY IS AMPS IS HAPEN WHEN I PUT MY SCREWDRIVER TO THIS ENDS IS HAPEND TO STIK TOGETHER THEN I MAST PUSH TO TURN OFF SCREWDRIVER OUT
YOU SEETHE VIDEO MY<<MY HAND IS MY SCREWDRIVER AND IM ALL THE TIME I HAVE SPIN SCREWDRIVER >>WAY I SPIN THIS WHIT MY HAND
BEACOUSE I DONT LIKE TO STIKC TO THE EXIT COILS
THANKS I KNOWIS HARD TO YOU TO ANDERSTEND ME BUT SEE AGAIN MY VIDEO AND SEE MAHAND HOW IM SPIN MY HAND TO NOT STIKC TO THIS OUT ENDS OF COILS
YOU SAY THAT I PUT FLATT WIRE
IS NOT FLAT ONLY IS FLAT THIS ENDS BEACOUSE HAS STRONG AMPERS
THANKS
Hi Mac,
I still cant follow what you have done. Only that you have done something.
I will have to have a guess for the lack of any specific information on what is under the blanket
Is that a camera flash unit charging a home made capacitor?
Lindsay
Stefan said
QuoteBut okay, it can kill a 220 Volts 20 Watts bulbs.
Mac CD is most likely using a capacitor discharge SCR circuit probably from a strobe light to fire the primary of his current step up coil. It is easy to blow a bulb with such fast rise time pulses. Most bulbs blow when the line switch is closed at the peak of the AC waveform where the inrush current is highest into a cold tungsten filament and due to the extreme mechanical stresses imposed on the helical filament....the magnetic forces literally fracture the tungsten wire.
With a capacitor discharge circuit, you impose the worst possible condition on a lamp filament. I used to design soft startup circuits for high inrush quartz heaters to prevent this effect. Tungsten filaments, when cold, can be a fraction of an ohm. Apply a 190 Volt fast rise time pulse and you blow the filament like a fuse.
I have been in some private communication with MAC over the last few days, but he is not that forthcoming.
Poynt99 and others have raised proper questions, of which the burden is on MAC to answer, for he is the one that has dangled this video for everyone to see and made the claims. It is not I or anyone that insist on MAC to fully disclose, it is SCIENTIFIC METHOD itself which insists on the release of test data.
But unfortunately the cat and mouse game continues. I have seen this too many times before. It is disheartening. Need I name them?
.....V
@ MANNIX
THAKS FOR COME HERE IN MY THEAT.. I HAVE LIKE TO ASK YOU SOMETHING
we know all here that you have know somehow the mystery man <Steven Mark>.
and you have now some very good secrets stuff of s.m
i m glade that you came hereand say to me some things
but
my devices i thing that is have the clouse some things like you friend s.m
he told youthat his tpu is imgen like 1000 wire long aor paralel and small magnet whit greated sped moving acrouse this wire
and has some vibrations
my device is has that strnge small vibrtans
and has the same efeffckt like s.m put permanenet magnet clouse tpu and aget has no effeckt to this
AND MY DEVICE HAS NO EFECKT TO MAGNET PERMANET AND HAS THE SAME VIBRATION
IF YOU KNOW SOME ANSFER I LIKE TO ASK YOU
I HAVE SEE THAT THE S.M TPU IS GETHING MAKE HOT ABOUT 30 MINUTES
IS THAT TRUE ???
IF MY DEVICES IS CLOUSE LIKE S.M WAY MY DEVICE IS NOT HAVE THE SAME HOT AS LIKE S.M
I HAVE SMALL VIBRTAION AND I HAVE NO EFFECKT OF PERMANNET MAGNETS BUT MY DEVICES IS NOT HOT
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE KNOW OF THIS KIND PLEASE EXPLANE IF YOU WHANT
AND ATHER DID YUO BEALEAVET IS THE REAL DC VOLTAGE OF S.M TPU
OR IS SOME LIKE DC VOLTAGE ???
I LIKE TO HEAR SOME REPLY IF YOU HAVE ABLE TO ASK YOU FRIEND WHAT HE THING ABOUT THIS
THANKS
OK, let's run some numbers.
"WHIT ABOUT 40 AMPS
I HAVE FOR EVERY 0,2 SECOND ABOUT 40 AMPS "
Output 5 Hz pulses of 40 amps.
Input "SUMARY OF THIS YOU TAKE THIS 7,5 * 0,3 = 2,25 WATT INPUT"
OK, I think it's probably a lot more than this, but OK.
So let's assume no losses, and figure for one second, that's 2.25 Joules input energy.
40 amps at 200 volts is 8000 watts, for one second that's 8000 Joules. IF the output is continuous, but it's not.
If we assume that output energy must be equal to or less than input energy, we can compute the maximum "ON" time or duty cycle of the output pulses. 2.25/8000=0.00028125, so the output pulse "on" time could be nearly three tenths of a millisecond, per second, divided by 5 pulses per second, or 0.00005625 sec "on" time per pulse.
This much "on" time per pulse, at 5 Hz and 200 volts and 40 amps, would allow the output energy to equal the input energy, even using MAC's figures.
It is perfectly plausible that those arcs are created by these "long" pulses, especially when you take into account the burning of the aluminum foil.
TinselKoala, you beat me to the post, here it is anyway
Lets see:
7.5 volts x 0.3 amps =2.25 Watts. This is MAC's claimed input power.
Lets use a pulse repetition rate of 1 seconds so we are allowed 2.25 Watts-Seconds of energy per discharge.
So we can have 7.5 Volts X 0.3 Amps X 1 second=2.25 Watt-Seconds
Or we can have 22.5 Volts X 10 Amps X 0.001 seconds=2.25 Watt-Seconds
Or we can have 225 Volts X 100 Amps X 0.0001 second=2.25 Watt-Seconds
The energy released is the same in all 3 cases, 2.25 Watt-Seconds or Joules
The reason you do not see a big spark when you short the leads of the adapter is because the high internal resistance of the adapter windings soak up all the energy. It is incapable of actually delivering its 7.5 Watts of energy into a short circuit, so the energy backs up in the adapter, which will get quite hot and possibly burn up if left in this condition.
Integrate the 2.25 Watts into a capacitor and dump it into a transformer with a voltage step down (current step up) and if the transformer is properly designed i.e. very low resistance windings, a good portion of the stored energy of the capacitor will be delivered to the load. (and vibration will be felt in the transformer windings)
Impulse spot welders of this size are used for welding fine wires and die bonding wire attachment. They also work in this manner.
Its just a matter of focusing the energy to a fine point as a lens does when you focus the suns rays to a point.
.....V
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 15, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
I HAVE SEE THAT THE S.M TPU IS GETHING MAKE HOT ABOUT 30 MINUTES
IS THAT TRUE ???
IF MY DEVICES IS CLOUSE LIKE S.M WAY MY DEVICE IS NOT HAVE THE SAME HOT AS LIKE S.M
I HAVE SMALL VIBRTAION AND I HAVE NO EFFECKT OF PERMANNET MAGNETS BUT MY DEVICES IS NOT HOT
@mac
May be you have solved a problem that SM could not by using different materials or winding method etc.
@TinselKoala
Quote from: TinselKoala on November 15, 2008, 08:28:32 PM
It is perfectly plausible that those arcs are created by these "long" pulses, especially when you take into account the burning of the aluminum foil.
Mac said he has to continously rotate the screw driver so that it would not "stick". How would you discount this?
Quote from: Vortex1 on November 15, 2008, 08:42:03 PM
TinselKoala, you beat me to the post, here it is anyway
Lets see:
7.5 volts x 0.3 amps =2.25 Watts. This is MAC's claimed input power.
Lets use a pulse repetition rate of 1 seconds so we are allowed 2.25 Watts-Seconds of energy per discharge.
So we can have 7.5 Volts X 0.3 Amps X 1 second=2.25 Watt-Seconds
Or we can have 22.5 Volts X 10 Amps X 0.001 seconds=2.25 Watt-Seconds
Or we can have 225 Volts X 100 Amps X 0.0001 second=2.25 Watt-Seconds
The energy released is the same in all 3 cases, 2.25 Watt-Seconds or Joules
Well,
but he said now:
190 Volts and 40 Amps for 0.2 seconds.
So that would be according to the upper calculation:
190 Volts x 40 Amps x 0.2 seconds= 1520 Joules or Wattseconds
Well, I guess the 40 amps is only the peak and will
not last the whole 0.2 seconds and the same goes for the voltage,
so the output energy is still much lower...probably at least a factor 10 to 50 lower..
So Macedonia CD, please let us know, if you really used a halfed meal zinc can
for the output coil and why you don´t post a scope shot on an output resistor
or the schematic ?
Why are you going to play the cat and mouse game here ?
Do you want to play it the same bad way as S.M. ?
Your energy calculation is base on the condition during 40A at 190V. But it is not true. Assume the screw driver is about 0.1 ohm. If 40A at 190V will immediately exploded the metal not spark. So it may be unload 190V@0A, when loaded 4V@40A. It is easy to measure if connect the output terminals to oscilloscope, observe during sparking.
Current step up device must fail to use 1 turn secondary to get 190V.
Voltage step up to get 190V at unload.
Current step up to get 40A at load.
There is no circuit can both step up Voltage and Current at the same CONTINUE time. But it is possible to keep energy in high voltage Cap. or coil then release it at pulse time. Only compress time (pulse) will do the step up both Current and Voltage. Otherwise it will be a real O.U. device.
The tungsten element of a bulb does not break from high current - period.
It will break from high frequency or sudden change.
The sparks of the screwdriver are same as all steel sparks - no fancy colors - just orange darts.
If more of you got off your ass and did work, you would see that this is not what is believed by Mac-CD.
Then there is the fact that the "other" current does not manifest in this way. Tell us that the output changes whether is night or day - then you have the other current.
So, turn off the damn soap opera!
I think you all are for getting what Tesla has said about how a higher voltage is created by pulsing a coil with a lower voltage and then slam that coils high potential in to the low potential of a second coil and the point of contact is where the higher voltage spike is created which can be redirected to another coil to get usable amperage. I think this is what has been done here and I would almost bet that he has two coils and a pulse circuit hidden.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 15, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
@ MANNIX
THAKS FOR COME HERE IN MY THEAT.. I HAVE LIKE TO ASK YOU SOMETHING
we know all here that you have know somehow the mystery man <Steven Mark>.
and you have now some very good secrets stuff of s.m
i m glade that you came hereand say to me some things
but
my devices i thing that is have the clouse some things like you friend s.m
he told youthat his tpu is imgen like 1000 wire long aor paralel and small magnet whit greated sped moving acrouse this wire
and has some vibrations
my device is has that strnge small vibrtans
and has the same efeffckt like s.m put permanenet magnet clouse tpu and aget has no effeckt to this
AND MY DEVICE HAS NO EFECKT TO MAGNET PERMANET AND HAS THE SAME VIBRATION
IF YOU KNOW SOME ANSFER I LIKE TO ASK YOU
I HAVE SEE THAT THE S.M TPU IS GETHING MAKE HOT ABOUT 30 MINUTES
IS THAT TRUE ???
IF MY DEVICES IS CLOUSE LIKE S.M WAY MY DEVICE IS NOT HAVE THE SAME HOT AS LIKE S.M
I HAVE SMALL VIBRTAION AND I HAVE NO EFFECKT OF PERMANNET MAGNETS BUT MY DEVICES IS NOT HOT
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU HAVE KNOW OF THIS KIND PLEASE EXPLANE IF YOU WHANT
AND ATHER DID YUO BEALEAVET IS THE REAL DC VOLTAGE OF S.M TPU
OR IS SOME LIKE DC VOLTAGE ???
I LIKE TO HEAR SOME REPLY IF YOU HAVE ABLE TO ASK YOU FRIEND WHAT HE THING ABOUT THIS
THANKS
I have sent you a PM,
unless everybody can do your experiment why post it?
Lindsay
Secrets?
I don't understand this. What is purpose of this forum?If somebody have working solution why playing this cat-mouse game,private messages ect...
Like this nothing will change.
Regards,
pix
HI HARTI
IM SO LIKE TO SAY BUT THING YOU HERE ATHER MAN
NOW I WHILL SEND PIC FOR MY DEVICE TO LOOK MY DISTRYNG OUT COILS END AND SEE THIS IS NOT JOKE
IF YOU CAN DOING THIS MAKE TO SEE OK
MKE 2,5WATT IN MAKE THIS AND PLEASE SEND THE VIDEO TO SEE HOW FAST WHILL BE YOUR PULSEE WHIT SO POWERFULL FORCE TO MAKE DISTROYNG THE OUT COILS
PLEASE
DONT SAY THIS IS NOT GOOD THING DEVICES
I THING MY DEVICES IS JUST STARTHING TO SHOWW WHAT I WHILL EXPOLERE
MAYBE I WHILL NEDD MORE LESS ENERGY TO WORK MORE POWERFULL
THANKS PLEASE I LIKE TO SAY THIS YEARS HERE AT FORUM I HAVE NOT SEE LIKE THIS EXPERIMENT
BUT PLEASE DONT SAY THA IS NOT GOOD STUFF
IF YOU BE HERE AND YOU WHILL TOUCHS WHIT YOU HAND AND YOU WHILL SEE THAT THERE IS SMALL VIBRTAIONS I THING I HAVE MAKE SOME CLOUS ELIKE S.M IS NOT ALL FINISH BUT IS VERY GOOD START TO IMPROVET MY SPRAK MORE CONTINUE I THING WHILL BE MADE ABOUT 5000 HZ
THANKS
I
I ANSFER YOU MY SCOPE MESURING IS SINUS WAVE
LIKE S.M I THING
WAY YOU ARE SAY TO GIVE THIS CIRCUIT WAY WAY
DID YOU WHILL GIVE PLEASE DID YOU WHILL SHOW AND PUT YOU LIVE IN DANGER
I JUST LIKE TO SHOW YOU ALL HERE LIKE S.M IS SHOW TO ALL WORLD
TO MAKE YOUr self tpu
i just to help whit some explane how is posible to meke setup and i see you all time hit me way and what i dont put sheme
i have to musch explane
reason is my live daneger and my famyly if i MAKE WORKING TPU
THAT IS ONLY START OF EXPLORE AND THIS IS MAY FIRST STEP AND I TELL IS VERY VERY GOOD STUFF I CANT IMAGEN IF IS SOME HOW POSIBLE SOON FIND WAY TO MAKE DC THEN THE DEVICES WHILL BE LIKE S.M
S.M IS DISCOVERY THIS AND IS GET IMPROVET WHIT DC V LONG TIME AGO
I HOPE TO MAKE FINSH
BUT PLEASE DON ASK ME FOR MY CIRCUIT <I HAVE FAMYLY AND I DONT SAY IS LIKE TPU HOW HAS POWER
I ONLY SEE HERE STRONGS AMPERS
THIS AMPERS I HAVE NO SEE I SEE NOW HOW IS STRONG AND I HAVE SHOW TO ALL TO SEE I SEE STRANG BANG AND FLAME HERE I DONT SAY THAT I HAVE LIKE S.M
S.M IS MADE COMPELTE I HAVE SMALL ROAD TO GO TO FINSH LIKE S.M
THATs i thing i have so mucsh say explane dont baning me please
only suport me to coninue experiments not babong me ok
and thank
@MAC
You have the right to keep it until the last day of your life, it is your own thing. But don't say any danger to you or your family. If the technology has been shared. The killer must kill all of us and will be impossible and fail to success. He need to go to all countries around the world and he will be tire. The don't use this reason. Remember internet is new in history.
Thank you.
MAC need not fear for his life. Here is a rudimentary circuit that will perform the same function.
Note: because of ringing in L3, the pulse burst will be a decaying sine wave of short duration...this is necessary to commutate Q1 back to the off state to allow the next cycle of charge.
Similar circuits can be found in cheap strobe lights and CD auto ignition systems such as manufactured by Delta in the 70's. As I said earlier, impulse welders use the same principle.
Now you can come forward, MAC no fear.
for MAC! and ALL ELSE STRUCK BY FEAR!!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aHU9dN0Itrk
its not my time.... im not going .... theres a fear in me its not showing .... this could be the end of me... everything i know ...
:) :) :)
THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN YOU AND ME .... THERE MIGHT BE MORE THAN YOU CAN SEE(http://;))
but its not my time im not going ....
cheer up world ;D
ist
@vortex1
Your circuit showed one of those method to produce the result by Step up to 1000V keep the energy in a Cap. then release the energy to a step down transformer may be 5:1, this will produce a unload 190V@0A or loaded 4V@40A just for a short pulse.
When shorting the output at 40A will react with the earth magnetic field for the vibration force. Only vibrates at short time.
But if it is so simple, everyone can do it. Why did MAC so happy about this device. MAC should be a senior researcher in this field. It is not easy to fool himself. I believe he is not making joke with us. MAC is needed to release more information.
now dump that 4v at 40 amp to a battery.... how fast will it charge..... lol is there more in the out put than in the in put ..... ;)
over time indeed.....
ist
JUST AS TESLA STATES TIME IS GAINED..... time travel anyone? :)
2 things:
Sparks are wrong color and wires are hidden in a pad or pillow. Unacceptable. Show everything or you have nothing.
--giantkiller. 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain'...
Quote from: innovation_station on November 16, 2008, 10:28:33 AM
for MAC! and ALL ELSE STRUCK BY FEAR!!!
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aHU9dN0Itrk
ist
Hi ist,
When I go to the link of your video, I receive the following message: "This video is not available in your country."
I am in Europe. Could you upload it to a youtube or google outside of your country? If you think it is worth...
rgds, Gyula
im sorry it was a song that is all a good one tho :)
ist
Quote from: ramset on November 15, 2008, 07:06:08 PM
Antimon your" WORDS" were quite a bit more condescending
Chet
Cannot remember what i have written which was condescending...
A.
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hi
ilke to say about vibration
you say is vrong thing<<MY DEVICES IS VIBRATING ALL TIME WHIT SCREWDRIVER AND WHIT OUT LOAD
VIBRATION IS THE REFLECTION OF ENERGY FORCE
NO LOAD IS STILL CONTINUE WHIT HIS SMALL VIBRATING FORCE
I HAVE NOTICE THAT IF I HAVE VIBRATING THEN MY DEVICES IS WORKING IF IS NOT VIBRATHING THEN MY SIMPLE DEVICE IS NOT WORKING
]
IM SO HAPY TO SEE PEOPLE HERE TALKING FOR MY DISCOVERY
BUT ALL THIS YEARS I HAVE HERE I HAVE NOTICES THAT I HAVE NOBODY HERE I HAVE EXPALNE ALL TIME MY THEORY HERE AND NOBODY HAS TAKE SERIOSLY <<<<WAY>>>
I HAVE SO GOOD THEORY BUT HMM NO WAY TO NOTICE ME HERE
I HAVE ANGRY LONG TIME HERE
I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FOR ATHERE LITLLE MANs HERE HO HAS NOT NOTICES FROM ATHERE BIG MAN HERE IN FORUM >>>>>>........ FOR ALL HERE WE MAST BE RESPEKT ALL HERE NOT IM GOOD NOBODY IS NOT LIKE ME NO THAT IS WRONG
I HAVE BEANG IN THIS LIST NOBODY LISTEN ME WAY
AND NOW WHAT I HAVE NOW TO SAY ALL THINGS HAS HAPEND NOBODY IS TAKE SERIOSLY
I LIKE TO SAY SIMEPLE WE MAST AND YOU BIG PEOPLE TO TAKE EVERY MAN SERIOSLY
AND IF WHILL BE A SIMPLE <THEORY>>
OK HAVE BEANG HERE NOTHING <<WHAT IM NOW >.PLEASE DONT ENYMORE TO DOING THIS TO ATHERE MAN I HAVE FRIEND HERE HO HAVE NOT LIKE ME AND HE IS THING THAT IM STUPID AND
AND I HAVE SAY TO HIM IM NOT STUPID IM JUST HAVE PURE MAN AND I HAVE NOT MONEY TO DOING TEST AND EXPERIMENT
HE DONT BEALEAVET ME
AND IHAVE WORK MORE TO HAVE MONEY ONLY TO MAKE EXPERIMENTS
AND I HAVE DOING THIS I MAKE SOMETHING NEW HERE
I NOT SAY THAT ALL HERE IS NO GOOD MAN THEREI HAVE WHEREGOOD REALY FRIENDS HOIS SOPORT ME AND ANDERSTEND ME
IM THANKS FOR HIM
IF IS HERE SO GREATED MINDS OF THIS FORUM WE WHILL MAKE ATHERE FANTASTICS THING WE MAST BE TOGETHER
NOT TO BANING AND SAY STUID WORDS FOR SOME PEOPLE HERE
I I MAST SAY THIS I HAVE READ ALL TIME HERE WHAT YOU ARE SAY
EVERY MAN HERE IS SAY SOMETHING FOR THIS
BUT ONE MAN HAS NOT
HERE WHERE IS
WAY DONT SAY SOMETHING MAKE SOME AND REPLY NOW
SAY NOW FOR ME WHAT YOU WHILL SAY THAT IM STUPID OR YOU WHILL SAY THAT IM PURE MAN HO LIVING IN PURE COUNTRY
YOU MAST LOOK THE PEOPLE LIKE MAN NOT LIKE DOGs AND MAKE OF HIM STUPID THINGS
FOR THIS MAN <,WHAT YOU THING WHEREIS TESLA BORN IN <PURE COUNTRY AND HAVE NOT MONEY FOR EXPERIMENT IS NOT IS LIKE THIS AND IS NOT MEANING THAT THE PURE PEOPLE HAS NO BRAIN FOR THAT
HEREIS YOU FIRST PROVE <,TESLA >
FOR MAN HERE INMY THEATHER <<I LIKE TO ASK YOU AND IF YOU KNOW TO TELL ME WHERE IS YOUr frind here <<marco>
if mannix hs something to say for me way then <marco has not>
OTTO STARI PRIJATELJU gde si da pricamo malo hocu da ti pitam nestojas znam da si
i tako mislim da si koa u mojoj situaciii
<<,mi nismo kao tih ljudi fda imamo malo vise pare za experimente
neli prijatelju
JAS SAM URADIO NESTO NO TREBAMI DA DOVRSIM OVAJ PROJEKT I DA KONACNO DOBIJEM TO STO ZELIM
ZNAM DA RADIS JA TE NEZNAM LICNO NO MISLIM DARADIS NAPORNO OK OVIH STVARI
AKO ZELIS DA PRICAMO JAS SAM TU
JA TEBE <,CENIM KAO DOBAR EXPERIMENTATOR >>I KAO DOBAR COVEK
ZATO TREBAMI NEKOKAO TEBE DA ZDRUZIMO SILE I TAKO DALJE
HVALA
THANKS FRIENDS HERE I HAVE TELL YOU SMALL DETALES BUT NOT EXPECT TO TELL MY DEVICES OR CIRCUITS OF THIS MY DEVICES
S.M HE WHANTS TO SHOW AND NOT TO GIVE CIRCUITS HE LIKES TO WE MAKE AND DISCOVERY ITSELF
IS GOOD TO EXPLORE AND SEARCH
i like to say from god words <<<GOD SAY IF YOU SEARCH YOU WHILL FIND IF YOU LOOK AND YOU WHILL SEE >
THAT IS TRUE
ok MAC,
thanks for the light show. it was fun ;)
at least you sparked some interest here again in the forum.
now that you've clearly stated that no circuits, drawings, or details will be given out, i guess we'll go back to where we were before, and carry on. if and when you ever do feel like getting SERIOUS, then come back again with some test results and numbers, or ask and there will be several that will offer their services and guidance in that regard should you need it..
regards.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 16, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
hi
ilke to say about vibration
you say is vrong thing<<MY DEVICES IS VIBRATING ALL TIME WHIT SCREWDRIVER AND WHIT OUT LOAD
VIBRATION IS THE REFLECTION OF ENERGY FORCE
NO LOAD IS STILL CONTINUE WHIT HIS SMALL VIBRATING FORCE
I HAVE NOTICE THAT IF I HAVE VIBRATING THEN MY DEVICES IS WORKING IF IS NOT VIBRATHING THEN MY SIMPLE DEVICE IS NOT WORKING
]
IM SO HAPY TO SEE PEOPLE HERE TALKING FOR MY DISCOVERY
BUT ALL THIS YEARS I HAVE HERE I HAVE NOTICES THAT I HAVE NOBODY HERE I HAVE EXPALNE ALL TIME MY THEORY HERE AND NOBODY HAS TAKE SERIOSLY <<<<WAY>>>
I HAVE SO GOOD THEORY BUT HMM NO WAY TO NOTICE ME HERE
I HAVE ANGRY LONG TIME HERE
I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FOR ATHERE LITLLE MANs HERE HO HAS NOT NOTICES FROM ATHERE BIG MAN HERE IN FORUM >>>>>>........ FOR ALL HERE WE MAST BE RESPEKT ALL HERE NOT IM GOOD NOBODY IS NOT LIKE ME NO THAT IS WRONG
I HAVE BEANG IN THIS LIST NOBODY LISTEN ME WAY
AND NOW WHAT I HAVE NOW TO SAY ALL THINGS HAS HAPEND NOBODY IS TAKE SERIOSLY
I LIKE TO SAY SIMEPLE WE MAST AND YOU BIG PEOPLE TO TAKE EVERY MAN SERIOSLY
AND IF WHILL BE A SIMPLE <THEORY>>
OK HAVE BEANG HERE NOTHING <<WHAT IM NOW >.PLEASE DONT ENYMORE TO DOING THIS TO ATHERE MAN I HAVE FRIEND HERE HO HAVE NOT LIKE ME AND HE IS THING THAT IM STUPID AND
AND I HAVE SAY TO HIM IM NOT STUPID IM JUST HAVE PURE MAN AND I HAVE NOT MONEY TO DOING TEST AND EXPERIMENT
HE DONT BEALEAVET ME
AND IHAVE WORK MORE TO HAVE MONEY ONLY TO MAKE EXPERIMENTS
AND I HAVE DOING THIS I MAKE SOMETHING NEW HERE
I NOT SAY THAT ALL HERE IS NO GOOD MAN THEREI HAVE WHEREGOOD REALY FRIENDS HOIS SOPORT ME AND ANDERSTEND ME
IM THANKS FOR HIM
IF IS HERE SO GREATED MINDS OF THIS FORUM WE WHILL MAKE ATHERE FANTASTICS THING WE MAST BE TOGETHER
NOT TO BANING AND SAY STUID WORDS FOR SOME PEOPLE HERE
I I MAST SAY THIS I HAVE READ ALL TIME HERE WHAT YOU ARE SAY
EVERY MAN HERE IS SAY SOMETHING FOR THIS
BUT ONE MAN HAS NOT
HERE WHERE IS
WAY DONT SAY SOMETHING MAKE SOME AND REPLY NOW
SAY NOW FOR ME WHAT YOU WHILL SAY THAT IM STUPID OR YOU WHILL SAY THAT IM PURE MAN HO LIVING IN PURE COUNTRY
YOU MAST LOOK THE PEOPLE LIKE MAN NOT LIKE DOGs AND MAKE OF HIM STUPID THINGS
FOR THIS MAN <,WHAT YOU THING WHEREIS TESLA BORN IN <PURE COUNTRY AND HAVE NOT MONEY FOR EXPERIMENT IS NOT IS LIKE THIS AND IS NOT MEANING THAT THE PURE PEOPLE HAS NO BRAIN FOR THAT
HEREIS YOU FIRST PROVE <,TESLA >
FOR MAN HERE INMY THEATHER <<I LIKE TO ASK YOU AND IF YOU KNOW TO TELL ME WHERE IS YOUr frind here <<marco>
if mannix hs something to say for me way then <marco has not>
OTTO STARI PRIJATELJU gde si da pricamo malo hocu da ti pitam nestojas znam da si
i tako mislim da si koa u mojoj situaciii
<<,mi nismo kao tih ljudi fda imamo malo vise pare za experimente
neli prijatelju
JAS SAM URADIO NESTO NO TREBAMI DA DOVRSIM OVAJ PROJEKT I DA KONACNO DOBIJEM TO STO ZELIM
ZNAM DA RADIS JA TE NEZNAM LICNO NO MISLIM DARADIS NAPORNO OK OVIH STVARI
AKO ZELIS DA PRICAMO JAS SAM TU
JA TEBE <,CENIM KAO DOBAR EXPERIMENTATOR >>I KAO DOBAR COVEK
ZATO TREBAMI NEKOKAO TEBE DA ZDRUZIMO SILE I TAKO DALJE
HVALA
THANKS FRIENDS HERE I HAVE TELL YOU SMALL DETALES BUT NOT EXPECT TO TELL MY DEVICES OR CIRCUITS OF THIS MY DEVICES
S.M HE WHANTS TO SHOW AND NOT TO GIVE CIRCUITS HE LIKES TO WE MAKE AND DISCOVERY ITSELF
IS GOOD TO EXPLORE AND SEARCH
i like to say from god words <<<GOD SAY IF YOU SEARCH YOU WHILL FIND IF YOU LOOK AND YOU WHILL SEE >
THAT IS TRUE
I understand what you are generally saying and if i was in your shoes i would not want my inspiration to be quickly turned to anger as i certainly feel it from you and it is strong but then just because your mother tongue is different does not mean you sound stupid but then you know your english is not perfect and i do know how you feel wanting the knowledge of what you discovered to be shared as quickly as possible but then if you feel the need for me to help you with your english communication then thats fine with me i'll teach you only what you need to say, now i am a forthcoming kind of guy and...i really don't want you to take it very personally but that can be avoided anyways people here take good english for granted i'm afraid but then that does not stop your general meaning, and yes as it says in the bible seek and you shall find well like that with all your heart.
Anyhow useing my thoughts of certaincy if he is haveing a difficult experiance i will personally help him overcome to keep seeking the answer as we all know something curious happened to steven mark and he 'certainly' hit the nail with his tpu to have that happened to him anyways i will convince him to to keep seeking and tell him he will have the last laugh and has shown you what he is made of but then like listening to music that does not help in a angry mood i will gently ask him to be gentle there and in anycase people not signed in or studying this needs people with sincere thoughts like Macedonia anycase what he shows will help you see the bigger picture more and more with the like which is theorys.
@MAC
You are being ignored not because your English or where country you from. It is because you never release your theory in detail , you said the effect is not caused by the strong magnetic field, so what is it? How could anyone here know what you mean. How to discuss your theory, even great scientist here still no use. We could only guess, after one or two guessing will come to nothing. You only gave ideas no theory at all, check all your posts. What is your theory please tell? We are tire to guess.
Mac's posting translated by emdevices:
Hi
I'd like to talk about vibration:
You say it's the wrong thing (or insignificant), but my device is vibrating all the time, with the screwdriver (as a load) and without this load !! Vibration is the reflection of the energy force!
With no load, it still continues with this small vibrating force.
I have noticed that if I have this vibration, then my device is working, but if it's not vibrating, then my simple device is not working.
I'm so happy to see people here talking about my discovery!
But all these years that I have been here, I have noticed that I have nobody here (to appreciate me) ! I have to explain my theory all the time here, and nobody has taken them seriously.
Why?
I have such good theory, but there is not way user HMM can notice me here. (user HMM left the forum at gn0sis.com)
I have been angry a long time here !
I would like to say something for another little man here, who, just like me, has not been noticed by another big man here on the forum....
For all here I say, we must respect all people here on this forum!
Don't think, I'm good and nobody is like me, that is wrong!!!
When I began this list (or thread) nobody listened to me, Why?
And now, when I have lots of things to say, it happens that nobody takes me seriously !!
I would like to simply say: We must, and you big people here, take every man seriously, even if it's a simple theory!
Ok, I have began here nothing ! What am I now? Please, don't do this anymore to another man.
I have a friend here who does not like me, and he is thinking that I am stupid, and I have to say to him, I'm not stupid !! I'm just a poor man and I have no money to do tests and experiments, but he doesn't believe me, and I have to work more to have money only to make experiments, and I have been doing this, and I made something new here.
I'm not saying that all here are not good men, because, I have a very good real friend, who supports me and understands me, and I'm thankful for him.
If we have here, on this forum, such great minds, we will make another fantastic thing, but we must be (working) together !!!, not banning and saying stupid words to some people here.
I must say this, I have read all the time what you all have said, every man here has said something about this, but one man has not, where is he? Why don't you say something now? Make some reply now, say now to me what you will, say that I'm stupid, or maybe that I'm a poor man who's living in a poor country! You must look at people like man, not like dogs who you make fun of.
For this man (only),
What do you think? Where was TESLA born? In a poor country and had no money for experiments, isn't that so? And doesn't this mean that poor people have a brain, there is your proof, TESLA !!!!
For the men here in my thread,
I would like to ask you, and if you know tell me. Where is your friend, MARCO?
If MANNIX had something to say to me, why not MARCO?
...
Thank you my friends that are here, I have told you small details, but do not expect me to tell (or reveal) my devices or circuits.
S.M wants to show and not to give circuits away, he wants us to experiment and discover for ourselves. It's good to explore and search !
I would like to say Gods words: If you search you will find, if you look you will see !!
That is true !!
Thanks for the translation EM,
Most of us do not get his eplanations well at all. IT IS JUST A LANGUAGE PROBLEM fro most of it
For my part I think he has something unusual and needs help but does not want people to hurt themselves.
Lindsay
Hello all,
@MAC
Im online every day from 6AM to 2PM. You can contact me with PMs, mail....
Yes, its nice when you charge a big capacitor and then you cant discharge it because the charging is faster then the discharging!! Crazy! Already done a month ago.
Now I can finally say that Im working together vith a very nice man. He wants to stay in the background. I mean he is sooooo kind and sometimes when I start to wright him s..t I get a little kick in my ass ..ha,ha....he is really good and his knowledge about coils is .....never seen before.
What to say? In the last few months I made so many tests, wound a lot of coils...
Edit: I forgot:
Have you ever pulsed your coils and used 12V from your power supply? Of course!!
Have you ever pulsed your coils and used 12V from a car battery??
Im talking about the difference when you use 12V from a battery or from a power supply.
But you all know this already.
Otto
I just finished reading this entire thread, took me 5 hours but it was worth it.
Because I have the entire thread fresh in my mind all at the same time.
Macedonia doesn't want to give us the schematic but I think he gave us a large clue.
Take another look at his post: Reply #134 on: March 22, 2008 (Page 4)
He shows a thick copper wire with smaller copper coils wrapped around it.
Is he saying this is how it is done?
Take that copper wire and wind it into a single winding coil.
Then wrap windings around it.
You have a toroid with a copper core.
Only instead of tapping energy from the outer coils, you tap energy from the core.
He keeps saying that the Tesla primaries are not used to tap or generate the energy.
He mentioned pushing the electrons through the conductor using magnetic fields.
He showed 4 coils pulsed with a PIC micro controller. And a 5th pickup coil.
Is that 5th pickup coil the core of the toroid?
Has anyone, anybody knows about ever tried doing something like this?
Winding a large air core coil and then placing windings around it like it was a toroidal core?
In theory I can see how the outer coils would act as accelerators causing a magnetic field
to spin around the copper coil center. This would increase the power and the frequency.
His circuit resembles a Betatron Accelerator.
I find this very interesting!!
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 16, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
you say is vrong thing<<MY DEVICES IS VIBRATING ALL TIME WHIT SCREWDRIVER AND WHIT OUT LOAD
VIBRATION IS THE REFLECTION OF ENERGY FORCE
NO LOAD IS STILL CONTINUE WHIT HIS SMALL VIBRATING FORCE
I HAVE NOTICE THAT IF I HAVE VIBRATING THEN MY DEVICES IS WORKING IF IS NOT VIBRATHING THEN MY SIMPLE DEVICE IS NOT WORKING
You will notice that a normal transformer will "vibrate" even with the secondary leads open. This does not mean anything is not normal.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 16, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
IM SO HAPY TO SEE PEOPLE HERE TALKING FOR MY DISCOVERY
BUT ALL THIS YEARS I HAVE HERE I HAVE NOTICES THAT I HAVE NOBODY HERE I HAVE EXPALNE ALL TIME MY THEORY HERE AND NOBODY HAS TAKE SERIOSLY <<<<WAY>>>
I HAVE SO GOOD THEORY BUT HMM NO WAY TO NOTICE ME HERE
I HAVE ANGRY LONG TIME HERE
I LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING FOR ATHERE LITLLE MANs HERE HO HAS NOT NOTICES FROM ATHERE BIG MAN HERE IN FORUM >>>>>>........ FOR ALL HERE WE MAST BE RESPEKT ALL HERE NOT IM GOOD NOBODY IS NOT LIKE ME NO THAT IS WRONG
I HAVE BEANG IN THIS LIST NOBODY LISTEN ME WAY
...
You complain about not being heard and respected, but you will not even attempt simple test that cost no money. Your results are like results of fast switching, not high current, but you do not even consider this possible. I think you want to live in a dream, and you do not want to know truth.
I happened to have Skype turned on last week and MAC, who I have communicated with priorly, contacted me and told me that he had a video he wanted to post, but he asked if I could help him remove the sound. The video in question was the sparking transformer seen and speculated upon by many. I supplied him with a program, and he gave me the video with sound. He made me promise never to post the video with sound on Overunity site. I will honor my word to him and not post the video with sound. I believe MAC is very fearful and does not wish to have his voice recognized, therefore asked for the sound removal tool.
I can tell you that for every spark you see, and even when there is no sparking there is a light ticking noise in the backround that sounds exactly like a capacitor being discharged into a coil. When MAC speaks of "vacuum coil" he means a coil or transformer with an air core, no ferrite or magnetic material utilized.
I asked MAC if he was using a semiconductor drive or a spark gap. He did not seem to understand my question. I further queried him if it was a thyristor or transistor and he replied "thyristor".
MAC should post a sound file segment of just the ticking to satisfy the curiosity of others here.
The circuit I supplied in an earlier post is my best guess as a seasoned researcher. Thyristors are very effective at dumping capacitors into a load such as a coil or transformer. Air core transformers or autotransformers would have no problem concentrating the discharge into a very high current ringing pulse.
Strobe lights have all the circuitry to dump a highly charged capacitor into a Xenon tube at a few hertz rate . Substitute an air core transformer or autotransformer for the Xenon tube and you have a nice sparking secondary. It will nicely pit a screwdriver as it vaporizes tiny chunks of metal.
There would not be so much hoopla surrounding this if MAC were to fully disclose, however that would open him up to peer revue, something to be avoided if you are enjoying the warmth of the spotlight and the adoration of the uninformed and uninitiated.
Scientific Method persists in petitioning MAC to open his work up to peer revue, or stop teasing people with cushions over "secret" circuits or videos with sound removed or other lack of disclosure.
Does make for lots of intrigue though, and the "hit counter" is running.......
........V
Quote from: giantkiller on November 16, 2008, 12:47:24 PM
2 things:
Sparks are wrong color and wires are hidden in a pad or pillow. Unacceptable. Show everything or you have nothing.
--giantkiller. 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain'...
I think GiantKiller is EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!!.
so what is the result if you fire a strobe curcuit to a primary of a mot ... and put a bulb on the other side..
also is the voltage over 1000v in the flash tube in a strobe curcuit...?
ist
Intrigue, secrecy, danger, magic pillow?
We have all made presentations to elicit the facts to no avail.
He has gotten pretty far. Lets continue down this road. He has two paths from here. 1.) Disclosure. That would mean there is valid knowledge or! and this is the best part. 2.) He blows something up, burns himself, or electrocution! The last area would definately prove this design out.
There has to be more attempts to add something proof positive to this design. Well if that doesn't happen then game over. This pillow demo is old now and OBTW been done before.
"Does not Dionysius seem to have made it sufficiently clear that there can be nothing happy for the person over whom some fear always looms?"
@MAC, if you truly have something then Yes you are a dead man. You play with others then you will get your just rewards. Instead of the small shows and secrecy then hideout, stop the show, get it done and think about how you are going to get this out there. I don't want anything from you on this. There a 12 million children around the world with no food, Everyday. How satisfied are you? Your job qualifies you as a king on this planet. Serve.
@all,
In other words what I am telling everyone is that since there is so much energy and secrecy in a small step, he is maxed out in his abilities. Which I am having a hard time believing because he has been on board for close to 2 years.
There is a camera, draw something on paper. That way we can do handwriting analysis and figure you out real quick. You have no clue how you are being watched. You have already shown us your hands, clothing, weave, cuts, callouses, grime, caucasian. What hand did you grab that screwdriver with? As your tests get bigger you would be tempted to go outside. We would then see fauna, weather, surrounding environment. Be careful. Let's add fear into the mix. I can tell by the video you are sitting duck. 8)
--giantkiller. Macedonia Identity or CSI:Overunity
Quote from: Vortex1 on November 17, 2008, 12:36:15 PM
I happened to have Skype turned on last week and MAC, who I have communicated with priorly, contacted me and told me that he had a video he wanted to post, but he asked if I could help him remove the sound. The video in question was the sparking transformer seen and speculated upon by many. I supplied him with a program, and he gave me the video with sound. He made me promise never to post the video with sound on Overunity site. I will honor my word to him and not post the video with sound. I believe MAC is very fearful and does not wish to have his voice recognized, therefore asked for the sound removal tool.
I can tell you that for every spark you see, and even when there is no sparking there is a light ticking noise in the backround that sounds exactly like a capacitor being discharged into a coil. When MAC speaks of "vacuum coil" he means a coil or transformer with an air core, no ferrite or magnetic material utilized.
I asked MAC if he was using a semiconductor drive or a spark gap. He did not seem to understand my question. I further queried him if it was a thyristor or transistor and he replied "thyristor".
MAC should post a sound file segment of just the ticking to satisfy the curiosity of others here.
The circuit I supplied in an earlier post is my best guess as a seasoned researcher. Thyristors are very effective at dumping capacitors into a load such as a coil or transformer. Air core transformers or autotransformers would have no problem concentrating the discharge into a very high current ringing pulse.
Strobe lights have all the circuitry to dump a highly charged capacitor into a Xenon tube at a few hertz rate . Substitute an air core transformer or autotransformer for the Xenon tube and you have a nice sparking secondary. It will nicely pit a screwdriver as it vaporizes tiny chunks of metal.
There would not be so much hoopla surrounding this if MAC were to fully disclose, however that would open him up to peer revue, something to be avoided if you are enjoying the warmth of the spotlight and the adoration of the uninformed and uninitiated.
Scientific Method persists in petitioning MAC to open his work up to peer revue, or stop teasing people with cushions over "secret" circuits or videos with sound removed or other lack of disclosure.
Does make for lots of intrigue though, and the "hit counter" is running.......
........V
So, MAC just have impulse pulse circuit. Possible he could pulse high impedence load with good result like Tesla.
(added: Stop conspiracy talk. It does not make for good results. Take Mac-CD's impulse circuit and use it.)
If we take a transformer and attach it to a battery and close the switch once we get one pulse on the secondary as the current results in a change in the transformer core flux. The core saturates and a whole shit load of current flows resulting in heat. Now if we turn the switch on and off real quick we get two pulses on the secondary. The secondary gains because we stopped the current. There is your overunity for ya. It doesn't and won't get any simpler. Why do we get the second pulse? Because mother nature changes the core flux for us.
Perhaps we should approach this device in a different way.
Take a look at the "Young Effect".
It transfers energy from one cap to another, gets work done, and produces excess energy.
That is a capacitor phenomenon.
Shouldn't we be able to do the same thing with inductors?
Shouldn't it be possible to transfer energy from one coil to the other and in the
process of doing so have work done and produce excess energy?
Capacitors and Inductors both store energy.
One stores it as amperage and the other stores it as voltage.
At least that's the way I like to think of them.
So how do we do the same thing with inductors that the "Young Effect" does with capacitors?
Lets get this thing working too, and then maybe we can combine the two effects together to really rock. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: sparks on November 17, 2008, 02:40:26 PM
If we take a transformer and attach it to a battery and close the switch once we get one pulse on the secondary as the current results in a change in the transformer core flux. The core saturates and a whole shit load of current flows resulting in heat. Now if we turn the switch on and off real quick we get two pulses on the secondary. The secondary gains because we stopped the current. There is your overunity for ya. It doesn't and won't get any simpler. Why do we get the second pulse? Because mother nature changes the core flux for us.
yep my simple video from long ago shows this..
@abba now your in the groove.... ;D 8)
ist!
HI
IM
so@GK YOU HAD ME MAKE ME SO NERVOOSE WHIT THIS IM STILL IN DANGER IF I HAVE OU BUT IM NOT HAS FINISH THIS DEVICE
I HADE TO WORKING JUST 20% TO FINISH BUT I DONT KNOW WHEN I WHILL BE FINISH I HOPE TO FINISH
YOU SAY THINGS AND NOW Im thing did to put athere video here im asking my self did to put or not
is easy for you to say put sheme but im not man how whil do this beacouse im not finish this and i dont like to show this
and you see sparks strong but there is power but is no finish i need maybe ,ore time to finish
I JUST SAY TO MUCHS EXPLANE EXERE AUROND AND I DONT LIKE TO TAL FOR SHEME I WHILL ONLY SAYS NOT IN CENTER BUT AOUROUND NOTHING PRICISIOSE
IM NOT SAY THAT I HAVE MAKE <<OU>>BUT THER IS STRONG SPARKS
NOW I LIKE TO ASK ALL HERE PEOPLE A HAVE ASK YOU MANY TIMES <<WHEREIS OUR FRIEND << @tao>> i like to ask him something i is posible
thanks
@All,
question about pulsing circuits such as Telsa primary and secondary (aka Tesla coils): Can anyone here explain the amount of energy manifested on the secondary based on the input energy of the system on the primary?
And does anyone here knows why it works? if possible I would like an answer as much as possible in EE terms. Tx.
Fausto.
@Mac,
Put your schematics on FLICKER and Photobucket and call them something like 'horse farm' or 'tractor parts'.
Then PM about 5 to 10 people here (do not include me) and have them download and post them to OU, peswiki, keelynet all at the same time like on one day.
Have the others duplicate the test and show that on all the sites.
You are free and clear and around the world it goes. In one day!. As long as you hold on you have no proof and are a single point of failure which can be easily targeted.
With all this talk of bad English you sure understand what we say, eh?
So the ball is in your court. Fess up or pay the piper. But no one single person is capable of getting anywhere on their own.
@Fausto,
Google it.
--giantkiller. How's that for honesty?
Quote from: giantkiller on November 18, 2008, 12:42:27 PM
@Mac,
Put your schematics on FLICKER and Photobucket and call them something like 'horse farm' or 'tractor parts'.
Then PM about 5 to 10 people here (do not include me) and have them download and post them to OU, peswiki, keelynet all at the same time like on one day.
Have the others duplicate the test and show that on all the sites.
You are free and clear and around the world it goes. In one day!. As long as you hold on you have no proof and are a single point of failure which can be easily targeted.
So the ball is in your court. Fess up or pay the piper. But no one single person is capable of getting anywhere on their own.
@Fausto,
Google it.
--giantkiller. How's that for honesty?
thanks giantkiller, I am not looking for a fight or anything like that. It is just that I was watching a video last night with Dr. Peter Lindemann and he was explaining some of the Tesla's patents in conjuction with EV Gray and I was very surprised by one of Tesla's statements in how his transformer really works and it was nothing like I have heard before not even what you've said (which was how i thought worked too).
So I am still wondering what the community here thinks.
Fausto.
@giantkiller
ops, I just read your comment about how it worked but as soon as I replied it seams that you changed ??? ??? ???
Fausto.
Hi Plengo
Try this link http://www.uncletaz.com/library/scimath/tesla/teslainv.html it might answer some of your questions (I hope) :)
Regards,
Paul
@Plengo
The best source I've found for mathematically describing the actions of Tesla coils is 'The Ultimate Tesla Coil Design and Construction Guide' by Mitch Tilbury. I haven't found a reference with this level of detail online anywhere.
- Neo
Fausto,
I looked for a descent explanation for many years and never found a single one, except for the work of Eric Dollard. Others try to force explanations out of Maxwell's equations, or conjure up ionosphere cavity resonators, all BS. All the talk of the "magic" of "resonance" and how the earth is conductive, all BS. Tesla's Colorado Springs Notes are also informative.
You can look up earth with "dielectric flux" and quickly find that the earth is a dielectric, as is the air around it. Tesla stated that the earth is conductive and is absolutely correct - highly conductive to dielectric flux, not nearly so for electromagnetic waves or currents. In essence the transmitter and reciever are just capacitatively coupled via the earth and the atmosphere - nothing fancy after all. When Tesla tuned the coils for resonance, what type of "resonance" was he refering to? Perhaps a longitudinal resonance mode.
If you've ever seen Dollard's video, he explains it pretty well using a two-coil Tesla transformer and shows the radiant electric (dielectric flux) effects as well.
hi i
LIKE TO STOP THIS NOW
I JUST LIKE TO SEE HERE TO GIVE HOPE BUT THIS IS THE BIG
<<<<JOKE AND FAKE >>>>
I HAVE SOME IN MY MIND TO MAKE THIS FAKE TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE TO CONTINUE WHIT EXPERIMENTS
YOU HAVE ASK ME ALL TIME BUT I MAST STOP NOW WHIT MY JOKE HERE
THERE IS ALL TRICK HAS BEANG IN MY ADAPTER <, INSAID ADAPTER HAS NO TRANSFORMER ONLY BRIGE OF 220V AC DIRECKT TO MY COVER BLANKET THERE IS RELAY AND CAP HO IS DIRECTLY CONECTED WHIT 220 V
220V FROM ADAPTER IS GOING TO DIODE 4 TO MAKE A 320V DC AND THEN TO MULTIVIBRATOR TO RELAY AND THIS VOLTAGE IS GOING TO TPU ;D ;D ;D ;D AND THER IS MAKE CONECTED THIS WIRE TO THIS TWO ENDS AND THERE I HAVE MAKEING SHORT
I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO MUCSH LONG TIME HERE I MAST STOP THIS JOKE
I WHILL SHOW YOU THE ADAPTER AND STUFF HOW IS MAKE FAKE
DONT BE A MAD TO ME IM JUST HAVE LIKE TO FUN
Well MAC.
That was pretty darn LOW of you, and you have killed any credibility you had on this forum, if what you are saying above is not a joke in itself.
It's not amusing at all, and it only hurts others who genuinely DO try to present their results as real. It's nothing to be proud of, you should be ashamed.
Maybe the "blind believers" have learned something from this...I do hope so.
Poynt99
I rest my case...
--giantkiller. Macedonia Identity or CSI:Overunity
YOU HAVE FORGET YOUR
FRIEND @ EMDEVICE
HE MAKE FAKE WHIT HIS 10 BATERY OF 9 VOLTS AND HE MAKE TPU WHIT 90 VOLTS AND HIS BULB HAS LIGHT JUST LITLE TIME
IM NOT ONLY MANHO HAS JOKE IN THIS WAY <DO YOU REMEMBER HIS VIDEO WHIT HIS 9 VOLTS BATERY IN SERIAL CONECT
WAY YOU ARE MAD TO ME PLEASE I HAVE LIKE TO MAKE JOKE AND I HAVE MAKE GOOG FAKE
ASK WAY IS NOT THER MY VOICES
IM STILL FRIEND TO ALL HERE
AND ATHER ASK THE @ marco how many time gives the fake video
ask him
ask him @marco how is the man whit videos whit name << turbo .wmv file >
find and search in your hard and see the fake whit 100 watt bulb and and 9 volts batery
way you are dont mad to this people just search old stuff and see that im not only how like to make joke and fake
ask @em devices and his tpu and @ marco whit his videos whit <<turbo name files>>
BY
MAC.
That is precisely the reason many are going to be pissed at you here. The escapades of Mr.X, Turbo, et al were not appreciated then, and certainly are not now either. You should have learned from that experience.
What good did it do??? nadda.
Don't worry I read the threads, many were pissed at them for their fakes too. I would be too.
From MAC
quote]
Quote<<<<JOKE AND FAKE >>>>
I HAVE SOME IN MY MIND TO MAKE THIS FAKE TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE TO CONTINUE WHIT EXPERIMENTS
[/quote]
Well haven't we seen this before. Shades of "Turbo" and "Mr.X" and others.
Not to worry MAC, even though you have fessed up, you will live on in Overunity history and legend, of actually having created a real working FE device. There are still many here that believe in the Turbo fake long after Marco fessed up. Same with David Clarke. Need I mention the ECD
So you will be an urban legend around here, your fate is sealed.
"Oh what a tangled web you weave
When first you practice to deceive"
In some places and for some reasons, occasionally, "shit happens". Around here it's despairingly more often. >:(
tak
And I did believe you MAC.
Well, at least NONE of my videos were fake or misrepresentation of my claims and experiments. I do laugh but it is really disheartening to see the theather here. It only denegrates the site and makes people waist their time, precious little time.
Remember this my friend: It takes a long time to build relationships, good relationships, but it only takes seconds to destroy it!
Fausto.
ok
i thing you are dont remember the <<@em.devices nick name <ASK HIM AND YOU WHILLSEND A PIC FROM HIS FAKE DEVICES WHIT 10 BATERY OF 9 VOLT in serial conecting and <@emdevices is show to all hoqw is light his bulb whit 90 volts
PLEASE DONT HIT ME THAT IM ONLY HERE HOW MAKE THIS PLEASE I LIKE TO BE FRIEND HERE II JUST LIKE I MAKE JOKE
I DONT ANDERSTEND WAY YOU ARE NOT MAD TO @EMDEVICE HE MAKE FIRST FAKE HERE HMMMMMMM
HOW DONT YOU REMEBER THE <,turbo. wmv file >please ask ho i know this videos clips
PLEASE WHAT IS THIS NOW FIND AND ASK HO IS KNOW THIS OLD VIDEO CLIPS
FIND AND SEE AGAIN
@poynt99
"Blind believers". Those sparks were not normal for 7.5v. That I believed and new it right away. I have done enough sparking to know that much. lol
I was close. I said the adapter had the bridge removed, but it was the transformer that was removed. lol
@Mac
That was in fact a low blow but it was a good low blow. It has forced everyone here to re-evaluate their real intentions. What would you do if you had an OU device in your hand. Right now, What would you do?
If you decide not to go open source, then what we need to do from now on is simply ban the member.
This site is for OPEN SOURCE works. YES or NO. The question is simple and easy to understand. You are either with us or you are against us. No. That was someone else who said that. Hmmm, I wonder who?????? But really, you guys have to get all your acts together and make a choice.
For me it is an easy answer because I will always post anything major photos, diagrams, info on anything I am doing on the board just in case I croak during the night. You never know.
What we need is a plan for worldwide dissemination (Hmmmm domination too).
Mac congratulations you win the Overunity.Com Best Punker Award.
But something you did not realize. You just invented the worlds first plug-in bridge rectifier. Need line voltage DC, here's the new and unique MacBridgeRectifier. Only 9.99$. Buy now!!!!!!!!
But seriously. I don't know if there will be any consequences for you on the Forum. Technically you should be banned, but maybe we can make this one exception and put out a warning to anyone who tries this again, that if they do, they are banned.
Think about it.
Glad I did not waste too much time on this. Back to experiments for me.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 18, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
2 wrongs don't make a right. I'm thinking maybe you do have something, but you seem to be scared so in order to divert the attention away you call it a hoax. Maybe it is a hoax like you say, which is just pointless..oh well...nothing to see here I guess.. ::) You can only cry wolf once..
Either the whole thing was a joke, or MAC does in fact believe he has something, but got freaked out at the prospects of it. Either way, it's irrelevant now. Show's over folks, let's move on & get back to the search.
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 18, 2008, 05:52:39 PM
hi i
LIKE TO STOP THIS NOW
I JUST LIKE TO SEE HERE TO GIVE HOPE BUT THIS IS THE BIG
<<<<JOKE AND FAKE >>>>
....
@MCD
I don't understand why you would do this? There are a number of people who honestly thought you're onto something worthy of investigation but alas, you chose to waste their time! Would be better if you used this 'fooling' time to improve your English?
There seemed to be no shortage of jokers in this Forum. But then there are persons (as in masquerading in multiple personalities) in the Lee-Tseung thread shamelessly selling snake oil like it was real medicine. Strange lot!
cheers
chrisC
@ Mac & All
@ Mac - You're punishment for this hoax is to post in plain English and using Caps only when necessary from now on... I'm letting you off easy here ;)....LMAO...I only posted once on this thread because I seen an "anomaly I've never seen before"...sparks of that size are crazy :o are you?...RFLMAO
Shine on you crazy diamond ;D
@wattsup You really summed it up for me...Thanks....maybe that should be a lesson to all in the future on ou.com....no hidden agenda's, lots of diagrams and video's or else we call BS and vote to ignore or ban someone for not being open ;D
@All - Don't ban this poor soul....if you were living in Macedonia and eager to connect with others in exchange of knowledge using the only thing possible (The Internet) would you do it....even as a joke ;D
Regards,
Paul
Hello all,
@heydude
so you think my ECD is a fake?
Otto
Quote@heydude
so you think my ECD is a fake?
Yes. I'm confident enough to call you on this. On another forum (Gn0sis) you're device is a claimed TPU replication, probably for nearly a year now. You have not demonstrated a self running TPU replication to anyone, nor have you printed a retraction to these claims. Your ECD requires
huge power input from external power supplies to light a small lamp. Yet you bask in some kind of glory as a hero replicator.
Otto, show us your self running TPU replication or join the ranks of the jokers and fakers. You are already IMHO a cryptic carrot dangler, like so many others on the Overunity forum.
Where is your power input vs power output data. The devil is in the details. You don't go there.
Maybe you should read a few good books on Switchmode power supply design and at very least make an efficient DC-DC converter.
Crypto-pseudo-scientific method don't fly here anymore.
A lot of us are tired of the time wasting BS. The gloves are off, the challenge is made. Put up or shut up.
HD
Otto,
dudie enjoys conflict ....it best to be quiet when shit happens..Im already brown so...
Your ecd , as every body knows was not a fake.
It was very well documented and a fine example of how it could be done.
I still take my hat off to you and Roberto for all the work you put into that and...you shared it with everybody.
A document that we will look back on that had a few things right
Not quite what mac was doing but perhaps he has learned something.
I dont know what it is that makes people want to fake it but they do, and I doubt that there is any thing usefull to be learned form what must be some latent childhood issue for them.
They always say that it makes people take notice....BUT IT IS THE WRONG NOTICE
This thread has done its deed .....and is over I think.....
now please can we get back to pulsing or singing fields... dilectric ,electric,and or magnetic....and argue about those points
great work everbody...even Mac
Lindsay
QuoteOtto,
dudie enjoys conflict ....it best to be quiet when shit happens..Im already brown so...
Your ecd , as every body knows was not a fake.
It was very well documented and a fine example of how it could be done.
No, Mannix I don't enjoy conflict, don't speak for me.
I enjoy truth in advertising.If Otto's ECD was not a fake and was a well documented FE device then the game is over. Where are all the replications. Why are you, Otto, Roberto, and others still searching for the answers when if what you say is true it has been given?I respect Roberto Notte's work and don't believe he is endorsing this device as a FE device. He (Roberto) is still also constantly searching for the answer.
What I and others see in the ECD document is a very
inefficient DC-AC converter. I've half a lifetime of switchmode.converter design experience and know how to interpret a spec sheet or product document.
The ECD is a
well documented (I'll give you that) very
inefficient DC-AC converter.
Mannix, I respect you for not making bold claims about your own work with tubes in TPU
attempts at replication. I also have worked with tubes in TPU
attempts at replication. I believe you to be a sincere searcher for truth.
Why you would endorse this ECD as a working FE device is beyond me and makes me lose a little respect for you. It also takes away some of your public credibility.
No one can be so rich with credibility to afford that.
HD
Hello all,
@Mannix
thanks.
@All
its better for me to be quiet.
Otto
Quote from: HEYDUDE on November 19, 2008, 01:03:41 AM
No, Mannix I don't enjoy conflict, don't speak for me. I enjoy truth in advertising.
If Otto's ECD was not a fake and was a well documented FE device then the game is over. Where are all the replications. Why are you, Otto, Roberto, and others still searching for the answers when if what you say is true it has been given?
I respect Roberto Notte's work and don't believe he is endorsing this device as a FE device. He (Roberto) is still also constantly searching for the answer.
What I and others see in the ECD document is a very inefficient DC-AC converter. I've half a lifetime of switchmode.converter design experience and know how to interpret a spec sheet or product document.
The ECD is a well documented (I'll give you that) very inefficient DC-AC converter.
Mannix, I respect you for not making bold claims about your own work with tubes in TPU attempts at replication. I also have worked with tubes in TPU attempts at replication. I believe you to be a sincere searcher for truth.
Why you would endorse this ECD as a working FE device is beyond me and makes me lose a little respect. It also takes away some of your credibility.
No one can be so rich with credibility to afford that.
HD
dudie .... you did not disapoint.
The ecd was a well documented device. I dont know why you think I said it was a fully working unit.
In the context of this failed thread it was a fantastic device I hope that you can see the difference and the relevance.
Otto's aproach is left field for sure btu he does get effects...he does document them..much better than I.
you see no body has all the tools here but its my bet that we have them between us...now can we use them for each other?
I encourage you to keep working with those bottles ... I hope that if you strike a chord you will let us know your numbers.
Steven was made a prisioner by his own discovery ...that's the point of this whole exercise
working with 15" is important in my view.
Tubes dont blow up so easily do they?
Tubes dont need feedback do they
Tubes like high voltage dont they
now go and build some more talbetop particle accelerators.
MAC would do well to save a little face and redeem himself by fully disclosing his trick with a follow up video.
Also I think we all would like to see his first video explained in detail i.e. where he demonstrated the 50 Hz to 200 Hz conversion....now that was also interesting.
MAC can you do this...we all would appreciate it. :o
Thanks....HD
Hey Gents,
I am not sure if MAC had something really working and now turned it into joke for stopping everybody asking him for circuit details, or it was a fake from the beginning.
Anyway I am really disappointed.
I see this forum leads to NOWHERE.
In my opinion the reason being at this forum is: if You have something interesting in field of a new energy solution SHARE it with others.If not- f...k off and dont play like kid.
If ones don't want to share, just stay low profile and patent your invention,there is no any dammn reason to be on this forum and fool around.
Regards,
pix
Hello all,
maybe we should figure out how Mac converted 50Hz into 200Hz??
Otto
Wait a minute, think about it. Who would so fool himself wasted material and time just to make joke. He should have something intended to do, the setup should lost him at least one day. Think, we enjoy the show, but he lost one day. At last we have not lost anything. Is it reasonable?
@Otto
You are right, I am still interested in the SIMPLE way to convert from 50HZ to 200HZ, and when it happened with a magnet close to it.
@MAC
Could you tell, how to do it?
Thank you.
Quote from: otto on November 19, 2008, 02:50:34 AM
Hello all,
maybe we should figure out how Mac converted 50Hz into 200Hz??
Otto
YES!!! MAC, SHOW US YOUR FREQUENCY MULTIPLIER
foward
As i said, a scam, but I was the bad man in the forum...I have described the circuit and no one believed me....
The forum gets lame, nobody is building, everybody goes the wrong away. You may not wonder if some users don't post any more.
You are not really interested in the TPU otherwise you all will use your brains and experiment. I haven't seen a good experiment with results (bad or good) for a long time.
Very sad
A.
mac secondary coil is inside of toroid coil or let say there maybe more then one coil inside?
like tao setup but secondary coils are Tesla flat coils
Hello all,
whats the frequency of a full rectified 50Hz AC??
Otto
Mac a one year joke ?
Well thats a new record !!
Your punch line
50 htz to 200htz I don't always get jokes could you explain this part ?
Thanks, Chet
Quote from: otto on November 19, 2008, 07:45:42 AM
Hello all,
whats the frequency of a full rectified 50Hz AC??
Otto
Single phase system -> 100Hz
A.
I think the ECD just showed what at the time was thought to be the "kick", referred to as a "seed". A lot of times, seemingly anomolous effects are explanable outside the experience of the observer.
The only purported OU device that has been detailed on this forum to a sufficient degree that it could be reproduced is Spheric's tetrahedral device - no word on that one yet. Fits non-mainstream theories fairly well though.
Now comes the real intrigue. Sceanario unrecognized yet: Men in black are now posting for Mac. WHIT HI ELEKTRONS SPINNING In TPU I JOKE ETC,eTC...
Either way it's kinda sad, I think Mac's heart was in the right place.
It is interesting that Mac was/is a CRT technician. It is also interesting that SM referred to an accident with a CRT. SM also talks about what happens to a cathode or filament in a tube. What would happen if the focus coils on the outside of a crt focus the electron beam to create a rotating electron cloud that never makes it to the screen? I would imagine there would be alot of energy build up in this electron flow especially if it is increasing in density and velocity each pulse from the flyback. Enough of a flow to create a bigold magnetic field? Didn't the accident involve nails or something like that being drawn towards the tv set?
If the electron cloud acceleration and seperation is accomplished from the Earth generated magnetic field or a permanent magnet field then we are getting gain from this magnetic field as this weird inertial capacitor charges.
The following is SM's description of the TV event:
QuotePerhaps a story which had impact on me at that time was told to me by my boss way back in 1970 I believe it was.
He told me that around 1965 or 66 there was an explosion in an apartment in Chicago. the authorities had concluded that for some unknown reason, a General Electric color television receiver had been the source of an explosion that killed a young black child in the apartment. My boss went on to relate that he was involved in the investigation because he was in Chicago at the time and he was invaluably experienced with television circuits and etc.
He told us that what they found was, the TV had exploded with some quick furry. The explosion did in fact kill the poor child who was sitting directly in front but sparred his mother who was some distance away in the kitchen.
The explosion was strange because of the absence of expected chemicals necessary to create the explosion. It appeared that the TV was the exact center of the explosion, however no one could find a reason for the explosion occurring. Also consider that there is not really much inside a TV to explode with enough force to kill people and destroy the living room a large apartment. Yes a CRT can explode and kill someone, however this was not the kind of explosion we are talking about. The most interesting part of the story is that according to our boss, metallic objects especially those containing large amounts of iron were dramatically displaced. He mentioned that some nails were actually removed from the walls and pulled toward the TV set. When they found them they were bent and shaped like cork screws! Everything in the room appeared to have moved or was moving toward the TV as it exploded, or imploded as the case may be. The child was apparently killed by way of these metallic objects traveling through his body on their way toward the center of the TV set.
As far as my boss knew, there was never a good explanation for the occurrence. We found out that this was not the only unexplained explosion of TV sets worldwide. However, the fact that all the sets exploded while in operation may bear some light. Also most of the TV sets were made by the GE company or were TV sets made using GE circuits and of similar design.
However, this man who had been my mentor for so many years had his own theory which he never told anyone as far as i know, except me. His theory was that the TV while in operation, somehow managed to become a receiver of more then just television waves and so for a millisecond in time became a receiver and the discharger of a huge amount of electrical and magnetic energy. This discharge of magnetic energy is vary similar to the discharge of magnetic energy during an atomic explosion. . . Now that is something I have thought about a great deal. I suggest you read about the tremendous magnetic energy discharged during an atomic explosion and the reasons for it. It may be of interest to you.
Notice that "metallic objects" - not just "magnetic" objects were pulled toward the TV set. Some nails (steel) were twisted like a corkscrew.
So, what sort of energy or effect could cause this to occur? An aether vortex? A black hole?
I appogize for the double reply, but the wheels are still turning about the exploding TV:
If the aether in a region of space were to move toward common center point, this could manifest as an unusual implosion - pulling metallic objects toward a center that either is conductive and highly charged or a region of space that was rotating very fast. Favoring the fast rotation of aether as the center, how in hell did TV circuits create this effect? How might we create a rotating field of aether?
If I was going to do a tabletop accelerator I'd copy one of the first accelerators that was made with a circular filament inside a torroidal vacuum tube. Then wack the anode cathode with some highvoltage spikes to pull the electrons out of the filament. Then control the electron drift to insure that the drift picksup a little inertia to keep em out of the filament. If there are two filaments in the same torroid and the second filament donates to the electron spin field at a different rate would a current appear between the two filaments trying to stabilize the different surface charge of the two filaments?
The ECD is real.
I have one of those built by spec. Guess how many there are publicy on this sodden planet? 3. I repeat 3. Correct?
This device is 3 sub harmonic Tesla coils layed down horizontally in a circle at 120degree increments. When the multiple freqs are brought in close phase or 'Bang on!' the huge electrostatic build is detonated and the Scalar, Radiant Energy, Longitudinal potential and is able to collapse onto the copper, at 90 degrees!, then the force is shot through the filament which is designed to produce a thermionic emmisions in the visbile range. The frequency production range is far greater.
So? Are there any others who built this? Who built the FET drivers? Who ran the tests?
I posted 90degree coupling on my GK4. Oooh, lots of flack for that, no? But did it produce? You Betcha! How and why? There is generated and returning energy in more than one vector.
And where did I get the wiring from? Otto! Thats right! The ECD team member! Gee what a great surprise.
The GK4 and the ECD have similar topologies. If one can not see that then exit now.
It is not about lighting a light bulb but creating an electrostatic field. Tesla.
--giantkiller. Too complex?
QuoteFavoring the fast rotation of aether as the center, how in hell did TV circuits create this effect? How might we create a rotating field of aether?
A while back I wrote this up but never posted it. Enjoy
Speculation on the imploding TV:
Very interesting, the preferred attraction of the TV set for objects containing some iron, the twisting of nails pulled from the walls and all objects being pulled to some extent towards the TV.
Also of note is the statement that other GE sets, or sets using GE circuits may have had similar problems. Not all the sets but perhaps a small fraction of a percent. Seems like a combination failure of several parts would be required to cause such an obscure effect. But what could the effect be?
I have seen photographs of TV's that imploded from failure of the glass envelope of the CRT (cathode ray tube). Usually the most severe are when the front face of the CRT caves in. This will cause sudden acceleration of glass shrapnel into the CRT which can rebound back into the room and is dangerous
Modern TV's use a safety glass construction technique which prevents this danger. I have imploded many CRT's, a pastime of youth spent at the dump of the little town I grew up in by throwing rocks at the face of discarded TV's, always, however, at a safe distance. It makes a bit of a "boom" but not much to get excited about. This was in the pre-safety glass era of the mid 50's.
I can state for certain from experience that the vacuum implosion alone would never suck any nearby objects into the tube and therefore could not by itself account for the observed effect in the TV story.
Could a mini-blackhole or other magneto-aetheric vortex have formed for an instant, pulling everything towards it?
I would suspect that in order to create such a vortex several things might be required, these being electrostatic charge, rotating magnetic fields and a gaseous plasma to work on.
TV sets have pairs of opposed coils at 90 degrees for vertical and horizontal beam deflection. They also have a large CRT upon which a high voltage of 20 to 30 kV or higher electrostatic charge is maintained. The high voltage section on early tube TV's had a shielded high voltage rectifier tube because of the X-ray production. This was referred to as the "cage" and housed all the high voltage generating components. Warnings of "Danger High voltage" and " Caution X-rays-do not operate with cover open" usually were placed on the "cage".
Additionally we have an electron beam generating "gun" at the neck of the CRT. We might also find some weak permanent magnets for focusing and beam alignment.
Modern TV's use raster scan, whereby the beam traverses a fixed course sweeping left to right at the rate of 15,750 Hz and vertically at about 30 Hz. to paint the screen. The electron beam never wanders from a known sweep pattern unless there is a failure of deflection circuits.
Vector scan, as used in some early display systems allows complete user control of the beam position to paint the desired image on the screen and is usually but not limited to text or numeric characters.
Consider for a moment a scenario where a cascade of failures occurred in the TV causing the beam to trace out a circle, a spiral or series of expanding rings or a deflection failure that magnetically rotated a gaseous plasma.
I will list some possible failures that could severely affect the ability to scan normally:
1) A failure of the power supply filter capacitors (opening) causing 60 Hz to modulate normal sweep frequencies.
2) A short in the deflection yoke or HV flyback transformer.
3) Loss of sync circuitry and interference of vertical scan by horizontal scan frequencies or the reverse.
Other considerations:
1) Impurities in the CRT causing the vacuum to contain an gas which could be ionized by the electron beam acceleration and impact on the gas molecules.. This could, in combination with the HV electrostatic energy, create a momentary plasma that is acted upon by the magnetic deflection.
2) Partial loss of vacuum allowing air molecules to enter the CRT. Again possible plasma effects.
In summary, it is probably possible, with a few modifications, to turn an ordinary TV set into a mini particle accelerator or plasma rotator. Wether or not this is the answer remains to be discovered.
I'm sure the above speculations are merely scratching the surface of what really happened.HD
Quote from: HEYDUDE on November 19, 2008, 01:10:55 PM
I would suspect that in order to create such a vortex several things might be required, these being electrostatic charge, rotating magnetic fields and a gaseous plasma to work on.
Yes, that could be the right combination. In old TV sets, is the electrostatic field and the magnetic field from the yokes perpendicular to each other?
Was not the flyback transformer preceded by a multiple transformer configuration?
--giantkiller.
I know many of you guys have gone round and round in circles tying to fathom this, but for those who still have an open mind ,I ask you to consider this information. I have talked at length over this TPU business with the physicist, whose paper I have included here . Please read in to the workings of Dr Aspdens work ,then relate that to the COOK patent. What you may have here are two concentric toroids working in parallel that help drive the aether through exerting a potential across the coils. Please Read and then comment
patent GB 2390941
patent119825
Quote from: braden on November 19, 2008, 03:08:54 PM
I know many of you guys have gone round and round in circles tying to fathom this, but for those who still have an open mind ,I ask you to consider this information. I have talked at length over this TPU business with the physicist, whose paper I have included here . Please read in to the workings of Dr Aspdens work ,then relate that to the COOK patent. What you may have here are two concentric toroids working in parallel that help drive the aether through exerting a potential across the coils. Please Read and then comment
patent GB 2390941
patent119825
well now that is intresting....
heres the pattend..... well
he's from concord ontatio as well hummm...
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/Archive/CorreasUSPAbstracts.html#anchor197565
well
ist
lost for words ....
I think MCD will mostly be remembered for his colorfull use of the CAPS LOCK Key ;D
THE SMART MEN HAVE LEFT THE BUILDING... 8)
SpiDer
Harold Aspden is a physicist from the Uk and the patent is a uk only patent
QuoteYes, that could be the right combination. In old TV sets, is the electrostatic field and the magnetic field from the yokes perpendicular to each other?
Yes, the electrostatic charge gradient is cone shaped and extends from the shadow mask of the pic tube (+) to the neck (-). The yoke magnetic fields act at right angles to the electron beam, and also the gradient.
Present day CRT based TV's work the same way.
QuoteWas not the flyback transformer preceded by a multiple transformer configuration?
There was usually a large mains transformer that supplied many voltages to various parts of the sets including filaments of the tubes. The flyback circuit, besides supplying the high voltage was part of the horizontal sweep that fed the horizontal control windings on the yoke.
Correction to my earlier post about the imploding TV. Vertical frequency used to be 60 Hz, but was changed to 59.94 Hz when color was introduced.
HD
@Gobaga
All Crt's have a problem with imperfect evacuation. They utilize ion traps. They also use a trick wherby they bend the beams so that they can get a wider screen out of a shorter tube. Now if this signal bends the beam too much it gets to the ion trap and sets them flying. What could be constructed from that is a cone with the ions trapped in the interior of the cone and a high velocity electron field surrounding them. I had two little ones of these going one day out of the ends of a rusted iron wire. The ion field loses all atomic brownian motion as it creates a magnetically dictated lattice of neuclei. Meanwhile the electrons are getting wisked away into the anode. The positive electrostatic field from the plasma core is very disruptive to air molecules and ionization progresses outside the cone of the plasma.
This is real powerful stuff and will only happen when you have ionizing radiation wavelengths in play. There is a bunch of xrays and ultraviolet light coming out of these benign looking cones.
HELO TO ALL
HEREIS MY PIC FROM FAKE TPU ;D
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Quote from: HEYDUDE on November 19, 2008, 05:44:12 PM
Yes, the electrostatic charge gradient is cone shaped and extends from the shadow mask of the pic tube (+) to the neck (-). The yoke magnetic fields act at right angles to the electron beam, and also the gradient.
Staying with this for a minute:
The charge gradiant is cone-shaped, magnetic field across it at sides - now what would make it rotate like a vortex?
QuoteThe charge gradiant is cone-shaped, magnetic field across it at sides - now what would make it rotate like a vortex?
I touched on that in the earlier post. Normal sweep is very square, left to right at horizontal frequency, up and down at vertical frequency.
Failure of sweep circuits could cause spiral or circular trace of electron beam. If yoke elements were oscillating close in frequency you would get a rotation of the gas.
Or perhaps coriolis force acting on the gas. But I think nature prefers a spiral vortex motion to transfer energy across a gradient e.g. hurricanes. It is less chaotic than turbulence therefore more efficient.
Quote from: HEYDUDE on November 19, 2008, 06:24:15 PM
I touched on that in the earlier post. Normal sweep is very square, left to right at horizontal frequency, up and down at vertical frequency.
Failure of sweep circuits could cause spiral or circular trace of electron beam. If yoke elements were oscillating close in frequency you would get a rotation of the gas.
Or perhaps coriolis force acting on the gas. But I think nature prefers a spiral vortex motion to transfer energy across a gradient e.g. hurricanes. It is less chaotic than turbulence therefore more efficient.
Spiralling or rotating electric field in a magntic field - depending on parameters - runaway aether vortex in a TV set.
Man, that's gotta hurt... :o
Funny how no one else here, but for the handful dicussing it, even give's a rat's ass about this.
Bunch of damn posers.
The imploding TV story is one of the most intriguing to come out of the whole SM story.
Thanks to Lindsay Mannix for posting it.
I personally think if true, it holds the keys to TPU like operation.
Perhaps a new thread should be started "Speculation on the Imploding TV"
A lot of detective work is still needed. This is where PC Heroes would be really helpful e.g. there must be some newspaper articles or reports that were filed on this case. I'm sure a lot could be dredged up.
Marco has done some good work in this area researching TV's and circuitry of the period. He created a pdf on that subject.
HD
Maybe this will help...from Harold Aspden
As shown on page 167 of my book Physics without Einstein the action of a radial electric field set up by a concentrated body of electric charge will, in its reaction with the underlying aether, induce rotation of the aether medium in that body, a state of spin that is powered by energy inflow owing to a phase-lock as between the quantum jitter motion of aether within and aether external to that body.
Watch this space--I have a very interesting video having to do with possible rotating magnetic field lines, or at least rotation of a plasma induced by field lines from a permanent magnet--I'll be uploading it to YouTube in a few hours...
--TK
And here it is: rotation of a plasma under the influence of a permanent magnet, thanks to my colleague and friend JK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grPo81fBrA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3grPo81fBrA)
@TinselKoala
Saw your u2'b. Really nice to see the field effect. During the video I was hoping you would put the magnet vertically next to the plasma to see if both the CW and CCW could be seen at the same time. I am wondering if it also works with eletro-magnets.
It works with electromagnets too :)
A.
so now what we want to build a plsma spinner ;D
i cant wait... :D
ist
sounds like we need a place or 2 to tap the plasma ;)
Quote from: sparks on November 19, 2008, 11:52:34 AM
If I was going to do a tabletop accelerator I'd copy one of the first accelerators that was made with a circular filament inside a torroidal vacuum tube. Then wack the anode cathode with some highvoltage spikes to pull the electrons out of the filament. Then control the electron drift to insure that the drift picksup a little inertia to keep em out of the filament. If there are two filaments in the same torroid and the second filament donates to the electron spin field at a different rate would a current appear between the two filaments trying to stabilize the different surface charge of the two filaments?
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D3564.0%3Battach%3D27792%3Bimage&hash=e1462f35c5362a272308f4a86b25fd22471b8dc7)
@Sparks,
I find the particle accelerator image you attached to the above post very interesting. Do you or anyone else here know where I can find more information about it? I have done some reading about the development of the toroidal accelerators but i have not been able to find any information about a version that uses a filament and HV coil like you described in your post. Any pointers would be appreciated :).
God Bless,
Jason O
still waiting to hear what the out put of a strobe light flasher curcuit would be in volts at the flash tube.... perhaps add that to sparks table top accelerator .... pulseing from the inside out with high voltage lower freq...
i dunno know... ::)
ist
@Jdo300
Original device was a particle accelerator called a Betatron. It was a torroidal shaped vacuum tube with a filament in the core of the torroid. The periphery of the tube was wound with "control windings" that acted as an anode. There were other windings used to accelerate the freed electrons magnetically around the torroid and out tangentially into a target. The target was able to be changed and was the first of the particle accelerators. Invented back in 1941 and scooped up by GE. Now if we put two filaments in there and measure the voltage between the two it should be interesting. Perhaps enough voltage to feed back the anode spiker and use the mag field of the Earth or a permanent magnet to make the electron hang time increase. To hell with bombing a piece of copper or something unless you want to make it radioactive which was one of the original claims of this device. I remember SM putting a wedge that looked like lead to me at the split of his little particle accelerator looking deal.
@Spark
You said many times about this Betatron. Are you going to make it out, when?
WEAK UP PEOPLE IS NOT TIME TO SLEEP NOW
THE TIME IS GOING AWAY <IS AGAIN IS LOST ONE YEAR WHIT NO ENY KIND RESOLT FOR BREAKING THE TRUE OF THIS <<T.P.U generator>>
sory for my <<<caps lock >> ;D ;D ;D ;)
@Mac,
I have just read all this thread and watched the video you posted. The sparks comming from your screw driver/TPU are not consistant with 220 V house electricity. I think you are hiding something
@ahura mazda
WHAT YOU SAYING IM HIDING SOMETHING HMMM :o
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on November 03, 2007, 08:50:41 PM
OK
HOW I WHIIL START I HAVE NO TIME TO BE IN THE FORUM BUT I LIKE TO SAY SOME THINGS
FIRST
1 THE TPU S.M IS NOT NEED TRANSIS . OR SOME TUBES ONLY KICK OF WIRES THAT IS THAT
2 EVRETHING IS YOU NEED IS TO SEE VIDEO READ SOME PDF AND LEARN SOME STUFF AND IN THE END YOU FIND THE WAY 3 SM SAY HIS TPU NEED MAGNET TO START AND IS TRUE PEOPLE MAKE ANTHER STEP UP DONT LOOK BACK
I HAVE SEND SOME WRD OS SM VIDEO CLIP AND IS SAY <<< WIRES IS IMPORTANT AND COILS IN THE OPERATIONS >>THIS IS TELL THE TRUE HOW IS POSIBLE
ONLY WIRE AND MAG. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I KNOW WHILL SEND TO ALL VIDEO TO SEE BUT WIT SECRET
I HAVE SEND MANY EXPLANATIONS IN <<<<<< DAYS AND I DONT EXPLANE NOTHING HOW YOU DON T ANDERSTEND AND SM ISAID FIND THE WAY TO MOVE ELETRONES IN WIRE IS SIMPLE NO ELEKTRONICS ONLY WIRE I TEELING THE TRUE SEE MAKE EXPERMENTS AND SEE
THE LITLE HELP YES THE TPU MUST BE SINUS WAVE ONLY SINUS WAVE IS GET TRUE POWER SM IS TELL SOME GOOD THINGS TO FIND THE WAY BUT YOU ARE ATELL LOSE THE WAY YOU LOOK FOR PDF FOR VIDEO OR SOMETHING PIC WHIT 3 MEGA PIXEL TO ZOOM WHAT IS INSAID
LOOK IS SO SIMPLE IS LIKE TR . BUT ANTHER TR .
Hi,
sorry, but i dont want to study another thread with no result at the end.
what is your point?
Could you please resume the technical facts clearly and without talking around it?
best regards
sushimoto.
i dont resume nothing if you whant i whill make anthere FAKE VIDEO ;)
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on April 11, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
i dont resume nothing if you whant i whill make anthere FAKE VIDEO ;)
No thanx, I have seen plenty of them. :D
HELOOOOO TO ALL
FOR SOMETHING WHAT IS THE KICK THE IS EE HERE AGAIN SEE KICK AND....
KICK OR IS SOMETHING NOT LIKE ONE PULSE OR ONE HZ OR ...
KICK IS COMPLICATED FORM OF TO MUCH CAREING NOISE OF FREKFENCY
IS LIKE A ,ONE BIG BUS .... HO HAS INSAID MANY PEOPLE.....
AND KICK LIKE A BUS WHIT TO MUCH FREK INSAID HIM <LIKE A S.M SAYS NOISE OF FREK.
AND NOW IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CONCENTRATED TO HOW TO MAKE GOOD RECIVERS COILS TO THAT KICK
..................................................................................
AND ATHERE FOR SPINING VORTEX TPU .........
THAT IS OLD STUF FROM ,TESLA>
IF YOU HAVE SOME SETUP HO WHILL MAKE COMPRESED FILD IN TO RING FORM AND IF YOU AVE MAKE SETUP HO WHILL HAVE SPEED OF ROTATION
OF 300000 SPINING IN ONE MIN.
THAT WHILL BE THE FIRST STEPP TO HAVE DC VOLTAGE FROM HIM
BUT THAT WHILL BE PRODUCED THE HEAT OFF MELTING THE INSAD COILS
IF THE SPEED IS BIGER THEN 300000 LETS SAY 600000 THEN THE TPU OR ..WHILL BE CREATED POWER SO MUCH ,BUT WHILL BE BURNING AND MELTING THE REASON WAY IS BURNING AND PRODUCED THAT POWER
IS BEACOUSE HAS TO MUCH SPINING COMPRESED FILD IN TO THE RING FORM OF TPU
.........................................................................for the small tpu whit small magnet
the magnte is give to the setup to spinfast and you whill see <,when magnet is out from tpu the voltage is droping slow and whill be droping to the voltage of 12 volts i thing
you whill see when is up said down the voltage is 12 volts
magnet is give and produced to spin fast that elktromagnet fild
you ask how is spin in one directiontis MAIN PROBLEM
AND I DONT LIKE TO EXPLANE HOW IS MAD THAT
>.BUT I ONLY SAY FOR THE SPINIG YOU MAY FIND IN THE BOOKS
that old very good books
is simple and easy
like s.m has made
i know that the s.m has problem whit heating and melting <beacouse he dont have ,,,< SUPER LOW RESISIT COPER WIRE OR SILVER WIRE>>
if the wire has low resisit then the tpu whill be working more longer time
and in the end of this my ... tpu whit magnte small is like DINAMO GENERATOR ho has fast spining magnet fild
for that tpu way is slow down the voltage when is up said down ....
beacouse the this tpu hase very low elktromagnet fild how is not strong and that fild is able to corespond whit earth and is easy to disturb the spining
is like you have small <compass>
BUT FOR THEBIGERS TPU
THERE HAS MUCH BIGER ELKTROMAGNET FILD HO HAS SPININGARTH IS NOT ABLE TO REACKTING TO HIM
i have read that s.m has some video whit compass and i know way <jack durban is not show that video> beacouse whit this whill show the principe of working
I LIKE TO ASK ENY ONE HO HAS THAT VIDEO TO SHOW HERE TO SEE NOTHING MORE
I KNOW THE TPU IS SPINING VORTEX
HM
IM STILLL WAITHING FOR YOUR MEANING FOR THE <<<<<<<
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<RED BIFILAR COILS IN TO THE OPEN TPU >>>
WAY IS NOT CONECTED ENYWHERE >>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
RED IRON WIRES COILS IS TRUE THAT OR <,STORY>
WHERE ARE YOU ALL WHAT IS HAPEND
IS NOBODY AT HOME HMMMMMMMMMMMM
Hello all,
@MAC
the people are working on TPUs with cores, are testing, discovering new properties of a TPU, collecting new knowledge....
They have no time to wirght!
Im on vacation and have also NO TIME to wright.
Otto
hey otto please tell me what kind of setup is makeing our friends hire
MAYBE IS HAPEND SOME STRANGE EXPERIMENTS BEACOUSE IS NOBODY HERE
I HOPE I WHILL BE ABLE TO SHOW MY SETUP SOON HERE
BUT TO HO I WHILL SHOW IF IS NOBODY HERE ..........
I HOPE I WHILL FINISH MY BRAKING SYSTEM TO MY SETUP
SOON <IS HARD TO MAKE GOOD BRAKEING SYSTEM > IS NEED SOO MUCH ....>
Hi @Mac and @otto.
I too will be off soon for a week with some time for real fishing.
Something to think about for the tpu.
I was trying to do some visualizations of a working tpu. Kind of like trying to do like Tesla could see his inventions working in his mind from stop to full rpm. As if it was in front of me working and I could see the function in my mind. As I was doing this, then one question came up. Why am I always seeing two stages or levels. As if Level 1 is the low level. Level 2 is the high level. If a tpu is to work, start up, then produce output, without any added input from batteries or other, how can it just go from nothing to full output. How can you expect the robustness necessary to produce and sustain the shown outputs, but first be sensitive enough to start with a first mV. It just seems logical that there has to be two levels.
Something like this. Level 1 will fill the drive cap. Once the drive cap is filled to a certain level, it discharges (maybe zenor diode) into level 2. Level two then refills a portion of the drive cap while Level 1 still fills up the drive cap. This builds with gain and you need less and less Level 1 because the drive cap will fill faster and faster and discharge faster and faster.
Right now, Level 1 energy is coming from our power supplies, batteries, frequency generators, etc. We then drive whatever as Level 2. But Level 2 will only work if there is a Level 1 that it can talk back to and grow with. Just driving Level 2 is linear process. Level 1 driving Level 2 that repowers Level 1 is not linear but Looooooop. lol
Level 1 could include the collector that feeds the toroid(s) as level 1, and the toroids that feeds the control coil that refeeds the collector as level 2. As the Level 2 grows, it does not stop the smaller Level 1, which still pulses when the drive cap is full enough. This is where the 5 vac is being seen.
Maybe this is the way to really working on TPU. If you expect a TPU to start from nothing as I think many feel it truly should. Or do you? lol
I mean one would say who cares how you drive it, as long as its OU. But what if it is how you drive both Levels and back that can only make a workig TPU.
Anyways, Happy TPUing.
verry nice post wattsup as per usual ;D
i think you nailed it ...
ist..
there must be a buffer or time delay .. the jt and the coil ..... ;D
ist time diffrencial tpu ;D then imagine after you got a wee bit of power from it you used the magic feed back ... aircore tpu to feroite core jt ...
Quote from: wattsup on July 31, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
Hi @Mac and @otto.
I too will be off soon for a week with some time for real fishing.
Something to think about for the tpu.
I was trying to do some visualizations of a working tpu. Kind of like trying to do like Tesla could see his inventions working in his mind from stop to full rpm. As if it was in front of me working and I could see the function in my mind. As I was doing this, then one question came up. Why am I always seeing two stages or levels. As if Level 1 is the low level. Level 2 is the high level. If a tpu is to work, start up, then produce output, without any added input from batteries or other, how can it just go from nothing to full output. How can you expect the robustness necessary to produce and sustain the shown outputs, but first be sensitive enough to start with a first mV. It just seems logical that there has to be two levels.
Something like this. Level 1 will fill the drive cap. Once the drive cap is filled to a certain level, it discharges (maybe zenor diode) into level 2. Level two then refills a portion of the drive cap while Level 1 still fills up the drive cap. This builds with gain and you need less and less Level 1 because the drive cap will fill faster and faster and discharge faster and faster.
Right now, Level 1 energy is coming from our power supplies, batteries, frequency generators, etc. We then drive whatever as Level 2. But Level 2 will only work if there is a Level 1 that it can talk back to and grow with. Just driving Level 2 is linear process. Level 1 driving Level 2 that repowers Level 1 is not linear but Looooooop. lol
Level 1 could include the collector that feeds the toroid(s) as level 1, and the toroids that feeds the control coil that refeeds the collector as level 2. As the Level 2 grows, it does not stop the smaller Level 1, which still pulses when the drive cap is full enough. This is where the 5 vac is being seen.
Maybe this is the way to really working on TPU. If you expect a TPU to start from nothing as I think many feel it truly should. Or do you? lol
I mean one would say who cares how you drive it, as long as its OU. But what if it is how you drive both Levels and back that can only make a workig TPU.
Anyways, Happy TPUing.
Hi sir wattsup
I think you got it!
very good post! :)
heloo all
i like to say somthing simple and very< MAIN problem for bylding eny kind of tpu or ....>
first step
every coil before to start to winding mast to take <CALCUTAING HOW MANY TURNS AND ....>
FOR THAT MAST YOU HAVE THE<OLD ,,, VERY GOOD FORMULES TO HAVE SOMETHING YOU WHANT TO MAKE>
AND YOU WHILL MAKE PRECISIOS COIL WHIT TUNE FREK. TO HIM
WHEN YOU WHILL DONE THAT
YOU WHILL BE READY TO TAKE MESURING AND MAKES EXPERIMENTS
SOMETHING NOT IMPORTANT......<IN MY OWN LANGUEGE
I LIKE TO TRAED TO TRANSLATE THIS BEACOUSE ??? Im traing all time to write in english ;)
ekstra struite mozat da bidat i da dostignat i povise od 1000 pati poveke energija nego sto vnesuvas
KAKO NA PRIMER <<1 ... 1000>
SAMO VO MAL DEL OD EDNA SEKUNDA>
1000 POVEKE
ZAR NEE OVA <<<<0verunity >
zar sme slepi do tolku da ne mozeme da vidime kade se krie << EXTRA ENERGY>
AND NOW I LIKE TO FINISH WHIT THIS
<EVERY SWICHING PARTS IS GET AND PRODUCED MORE ENERGY WHEN IS <off> is simple ist
bey
<<Cedomir >
:)
http://pesn.com/2006/07/28/9500292_Magnetic_Power_Inc_Patent_Application/MagneticPowerInc-patentapplication_US_2006_0163971.pdf
http://rapidshare.com/files/285761749/P1050104.rar.html