Hi all,
below is a link to a Youtube video I just did which shows what seems to be negative electricity. Is this correct? and what do you do with it?
Your comments would be appreciated.
Thanks for looking.
Luc
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bXMgsW7Hu4
@ Gotoluc
Nice video presentation, congratulations on your recent setup.
Have you tried separating it using a pickup coil or transformer yet? Not sure what else picks up negative electricity.
It'd be interesting if it can run ac lights or some load :o
Regards,
Paul
Thanks for looking Paul,
I have not tried to do anything more since I don' t even know if this is real negative electricity even if it's real, I have no ideal what to do with it. I'll wait till someone can confirm what is going on.
Thanks for looking.
Luc
@ Gotoluc
Have you tried measuring with an analog meter, no offense but I've been tricked with DVM's before while measuring near high frequency devices with spark gaps.
Regards,
Paul
Quote from: Goat on May 31, 2008, 05:29:21 PM
@ Gotoluc
Have you tried measuring with an analog meter, no offense but I've been tricked with DVM's before while measuring near high frequency devices with spark gaps.
Regards,
Paul
No, I don't have one, yet. On my things to get list. However my Fluke meter has been very reliable to date and has not done this yet with all the pulsing I have been doing.
Thanks
Luc
Hi Luc,
Could you place a resistor of 47-100 kOhm value in parallel with the output voltage and see the output voltage then?
The resistor would serve as a useful load and in case the voltage may decrease to less then 400-500V, then you could check it with an oscilloscope the amplitude and the waveform.
(I guess, there is also a possibilty that the EM fields of the spark may fool the inside electronics of your otherwise excellent Fluke meter)
rgds, Gyula
@ Gotoluc
Could you try to store the voltage across a capacitor bank also, I'd be curious to see if you couldn't gather it that way also. Then measure the cap once the system is down to avoid EM while it's running.
Regards,
Paul
This looks like a flyback transformer.
Thank you all for looking :D
I will do the recommended tests as well as I can and try to get to the bottom of this. I will post if I find anything new.
Luc
Hi all,
here is an updated video which has a much better result ;)
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsDccdEcPx4
Thanks for looking and if you think this is good share it with everyone you know.
Luc
Luc,
I'm curious as to what happens if you removed the Neo and just put the spark gap on the actual core. Does the current draw go up, go down or stay the same?
it works also with ferrite core?
Marzio
Quote from: gotoluc on June 01, 2008, 12:48:16 AM
Hi all,
here is an updated video which has a much better result ;)
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsDccdEcPx4
Thanks for looking and if you think this is good share it with everyone you know.
Luc
Hi Luc,
Could you provide a schematic of your setup?
I can't get videos with my connection - but I am puzzled by
thsi "negative energy" concept. surely, energy is energy. It
cannot be + or -.
Hi guys,
Can I just say that negative energy & radiant energy have never been proven to exist and there is not one experiment that can show them!
However, lets assume for a moment that they do exist. With negative energy all effects are reversed (due to convergent energy flow rather than divergent).
In this case reading heat from a resistor will not tell you anything. You cannot see it on a meter or a scope.
Lets say you connect up a bulb to a negative energy source, the bulb will be very bright and clearly (dissipating, if thats the right word with negative) energy, but when you read the meter and tells you only low current, and that is because the meter is only seeing the normal positive energy dissipation because a meter works on dissipation of energy not convergence and is infact a load in itself!
Resistors and other items likely to get hot will infact get cold because now the flow of photons is reversed, instead of photons being scattered away as energy to create heat in the surrounding space, photons act in reverse and are removed from the surrounding space and converge on the load (thus reducing heat in the surrounding area making it cold!).
You must look for these effects and do not do normal load tests as they will get you no where!
Regards,
Dave.
Quote from: CTG Labs on June 01, 2008, 12:00:53 PM
Hi guys,
Can I just say that negative energy & radiant energy have never been proven to exist and there is not one experiment that can show them!
However, lets assume for a moment that they do exist. With negative energy all effects are reversed (due to convergent energy flow rather than divergent).
In this case reading heat from a resistor will not tell you anything. You cannot see it on a meter or a scope.
Lets say you connect up a bulb to a negative energy source, the bulb will be very bright and clearly (dissipating, if thats the right word with negative) energy, but when you read the meter and tells you only low current, and that is because the meter is only seeing the normal positive energy dissipation because a meter works on dissipation of energy not convergence and is infact a load in itself!
Resistors and other items likely to get hot will infact get cold because now the flow of photons is reversed, instead of photons being scattered away as energy to create heat in the surrounding space, photons act in reverse and are removed from the surrounding space and converge on the load (thus reducing heat in the surrounding area making it cold!).
You must look for these effects and do not do normal load tests as they will get you no where!
Regards,
Dave.
Hi Dave and all,
first thing I can say is you should not get stuck on any words like negative electricity. I did not claim that I have that, look at the title of this tread. I only suggested it seems to be negative electricity since my volt meter was only displaying a - negative voltage when trying to measure voltage.
Dave has said many good things above. I believe that standard EE practice or equipment may not work here as you can see from my own dependable Fluke meter.
I will be doing more deductive tests to find out what combinations works best without killing the effect with EE stuff. If you want to replicate it I feel the videos have enough details in them if you have enough experience. I will not be using my time to do schematic at this time since I am sure some improvements can be made and will focus my time on that. So all your above suggestion will be tried and many more.
Please stay tuned for updates
Thanks for looking
Luc
@gotoluc
In your first video, what function did the "house ground" wire perform? Was there any difference when disconnected?
Hi Luc,
I was at work earlier and could not listen to your videos. I just got home and watched them again.
So if I am correct, the voltage meter is not actually connected to the circuit, not even the ground lead? So the entire connection is capacitive.
I would say the reason you are seeing negative voltage on the AC setting is because the sine wave will have a higher negative peak value than the highest positive peak value. So it will not be a true sine wave, the two halves will not average out to zero and your meter is telling you then that the negative half is higher in voltage, this is supported by the fact that the DC setting also reads negative.
I think you need a scope to be sure of anything but because something has a negative sign next to it doesnt mean its negative energy, it just means the voltage on the termainal of the meter is the other way round or averaged higher in the negative portion!
The reason for this could well be because you have placed a magnet on the end of the core material and thus have biased it in the one direction!
Regards,
Dave.
@gotoluc,
Connect the high voltage terminals of a Neon transformer to your circuit.
Then you can use the low voltage end of that transformer as a output to a load.
So if you use a 8kV / 110 VAC Neon transformer and you output is somewhere
close to say 2000 volt, then the output will be approx. 28 volt.
Groundloop.
@CTG Labs,
I would like to thank you Dave to take the time and explain what could be happening with my voltage meter. I did connect the leads at one point in the test 1 video and the voltage goes over the meter limits. In test 2 video I have the leads connected all the time but it is uncapable of giving any real reading.
@Groundloop,
thanks for looking ;) good ideal, I will try it with a microwave oven transformer since I have a few of them around.
Luc
Hi Luc,
I had simular glowing of the 25 Watts bulbs with a sparkgap and
my Newman coil !
The bulb glowed due the big RF burst current spikes on the line
of the coil flowing also through the bulb in series...
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check out:
http://overunity.com/newman
These are the big negative current spikes ( RF current bursts from the sparking)
that flow on the line also through the
bulb and make it glow:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2Fnewman%2Farcing2.JPG&hash=686a97a22078c5fc313afc2ecc21d96bd49c941d)
(Scopeshot done on a shunt to see the input current into the coil.
during the sparking the input current is very big NEGATIVE ! )
These also recharge batteries as they flow back to the batteries.
Quote from: hartiberlin on June 01, 2008, 07:29:08 PM
These are the big negative current spikes ( RF current bursts from the sparking)
that flow on the line also through the
bulb and make it glow:
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2Fnewman%2Farcing2.JPG&hash=686a97a22078c5fc313afc2ecc21d96bd49c941d)
(Scopeshot done on a shunt to see the input current into the coil.
during the sparking the input current is very big NEGATIVE ! )
These also recharge batteries as they flow back to the batteries.
Hi Stefan,
thank you for sharing your tests, this is good information. I have been working now for 5 hours on my circuit and taking one piece away at a time to try and find what is going on. It maybe nothing usefull in the end since I have found a ground related problems. I think if I am to do more of these kind of tests I will need a separate ground and not use the home electrical ground.
I will report more later on.
Thanks for your help and support
Luc
@gotoluc,
If you live in USA then there is a good reason NOT to use the electrical ground.
The electrical ground is the middle pin of a utility transformer. If the utility transformer
is not 100% equal made on both sides (Eg. same turns of wire etc.) then there will
be a small potential voltage on the ground line. Also if there is a ground fault then
your ground point may inject energy into you device. I had the same problem when
using a o-scope connected to one of my devices. The ground lead on the scope
was injecting a very small AC current into my circuit. This little AC current was enough
to increase the energy so much that my circuit appeared to be o/u. It was not.
BTW, my o-scope was not grounded so the energy came from a "leaky" power supply
inside the o-scope. Because of that I now never use any outside connections when I
try to make a circuit o/u. I design the circuit to use ONE rechargeable battery.
Then I measure the battery with my volt meters at intervals to see if the voltage
in the battery has gained or dropped. Also, I always run my tests over a long period of
time. That to ensure that I'm not fooled by battery recover or the "Jeesus battery effect".
The "Jeesus battery effect" is when you connect a load to a battery the voltage will first
climb before the battery goes down in voltage. The climbing CAN take several hours based
on the current draw of you battery.
Groundloop.
Hi everyone,
this message is to confirm that my test had a grounding problem, so I have removed the youtube videos. Thank you to all who have looked and mostly to those who have taken the time to replied with suggestion as to help understand what could be happening.
The lesson here is not to use the home electrical ground on these kind of tests. I will have my own grounding rod for future tests.
Thanks again.
Luc
Hi everyone,
this message is to confirm that my test had a grounding problem, so I have removed the youtube videos. Thank you to all who have looked and mostly to those who have taken the time to replied with suggestion as to help understand what could be happening.
The lesson here is not to use the home electrical ground on these kind of tests. I will have my own grounding rod for future tests.
Thanks again. Luc
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These are the big negative current spikes ( RF current bursts from the sparking)
that flow on the line also through the
bulb and make it glow:
(Scopeshot done on a shunt to see the input current into the coil.
during the sparking the input current is very big NEGATIVE ! )
These also recharge batteries as they flow back to the batteries.
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