And its about time I might add...he even hinted witnesses have been killed.
More here...
'he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fd_1216911065&p=1
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on July 28, 2008, 09:08:24 PM
And its about time I might add...he even hinted witnesses have been killed.
More here...
'he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1fd_1216911065&p=1
.....>>>>>* repeatedly covered up by governments * <<<<< gee shucks ::).... we have these people in charge? .. why ? ???.
i think that benevolent aliens have been guiding me and influencing me, all through my life.
the reasons why i know, are mostly personal and unimpressive to others. but i am 90% certain that it is the case.
the pleiadians and other benevolent species, have been trying to make first contact with earth, since 1987. but the illuminati types have been sabotaging things the whole time.
the illuminati can do it, because the aliens want us to meet certain conditions, before they will deal with us.
open contact would mean the end of the illuminati's corrupter money system. and the exposure of a filthy piles of lies, crimes, and horrific atrocities as big as mount everest.
first contact means the death of everyone working for the illuminati. so of course they cannot have it! they must dig their holes even deeper, to prolong their fate. and letting our misery pile up higher.
You can only piss in a suitcase for so long before it starts to seep out...the seams may be ready to pop...soon I hope...for all our sakes.
I look forward to watching the public hangings of the deceivers on high definition TV..with freeze frame and slo-mo of course.
Regards...
Howdy Cap-Z-ro, Nitinnun,
It's about time those astronauts came clean. I read a story about Apollo 11 landing on the moon in the Sea of Tranquility. Around the rim of the crater were dozens of UFO's. Neil Armstrong had to be coaxed out of the Eagle because he was scared to go out there. With dozens of unknown ships hanging around I can imagine why. Turns out they were all benevolent.
The Pleiadians (Pleiades Cluster), Arcturians (Arcturus), Sirians (Sirius), and others all want to meet us. There is a first contact mission scheduled to happen, but you said it, the Illuminati is in the way, those evil bastards. Fortunately, the aliens have better technology and are working with Ascended Masters, Angels, and Archangels to eliminate the Illuminati completely. Within a couple of years we should see a First Contact Event. They have to accomplish this in a way that doesn't create mass hysteria. This is very important because they care for our well being, and an event such as this could be very traumatic for the non-initiated.
Here is a plus. The Illuminati have been hoarding the wealth of the world which they stole from us. The Forces of Light plan on returning all that wealth to the people of the world after the Illuminati have been eliminated. This is what is considered to be St. Germain's Trust. I think he is an Archangel. There is a awesome, bright future in store for everyone. Monies will be based on precious metals again. We will have governments that we can trust. There will be NO MORE WAR! And the technologies, my favorite part, the Forces of Light are going to release all of the suppressed technologies, and introduce us to new "alien" technologies, Whoo Hoo! Oil is dead!
So I plan on building a business to produce these suppressed and new technologies. There will be a need to replace all the polluting, current technologies with clean radiant power devices. The faster we replace the old technologies the faster we can get mother Earth cleaned up and ready for her ascension.
Blessed Be Brothers...
Z monkey.
the aliens harvest most of their on-planet electricity, from giant pyramids. like the ones we have in egypt.
they say that a large pyramid, is the easiest way to get electricity on a large scale, on a planet.
i can believe it. because that is what most of my "guidance" has focused on over the last year. it has been leading me to pyramids!
i posted most of what should be needed to harvest electricity from pyramids, in my other thread here in the news forum.
Howdy Nitinunn,
There is a pyramid power forum. I know about the special properties of pyramids, but never tried to extract power from them. Maybe that is something worth looking in to...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Mitchell has been pretty open for quite a while, if one searches around a little...
On a somewhat related note, there is an alleged US gov document (http://www.mininova.org/tor/433839) that could explain a little why people deny certain things.
Glad this is coming out and we know it is the truth, but I can't help but wonder why he's saying it now.
"One of the pivotal people I encountered early in my carreer was Edgar Mitchel the astronaut, Edgar J Mitchel an Appolo mission astranaut founded the Norectics institute in southern California, the institutes charter was supposedly to develop alternative energies inventors by attracting inventors from all over the country. Michel became extremely interested in DePalma's N machine.
He made an offer to buy out the machine, which DePalma refused. DePalma states 'he said to me if I ever tried any thing on my own in California I would get my head blown off'. So I was scared to death, the CIA operates through various fronts to find out people are thinking and what they are inventing. Now what's more innocent then the Benign institute founded on transcendental principles to help new age inventors bring free energy technology into the world."
that pyramid forum is dead, and my physics are several steps ahead of the slop job that thomas trawoger mocks us with.
i urge you to read my thread. though i'm still trying to force myself build a demonstration.
Now that the cat is out of the bag, so to speak...well part way at least...the next logical question would be - where's the alternate energy technology ?
I don't imagine the fake news media will be focusing on that issue any time soon though...their main focus will be to get the masses used to the idea that they need to submit DNA samples to "weed out" alien imposters/invaders...the ENEMY.
Its all about distraction...now where was I ?
Oh yeah...hand over the over unity...now !!
Regards...
See if you can find the two hour version of "Was it only a paper moon" Hosted by Jim Collier. This occasionally finds its way to the internet. Collier does a devastating job debunking the entire moon landing story. Another one, even more telling in some ways is: "Astronauts Gone Wild". Not as technical but will leave the anyone holding to the official story with a nasty headache.
There are so many ufo designs, it seems they at Area51 cannot agree on the design :P
I am starting to think it IS all a cover up or distraction from the real world problems and behind the scene politics.
Think about this, why is Fox showing so much ufo subjects? Fox, the disinfo network?
But then again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Zj_hrB_l8
And then there was another !
This stuff is starting to come out fast this year.
29th July Release Clark C. McClelland
http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/release_mitchell.html
Nice to see Clark C. McClelland backing up his friend Edgar Mitchell.
Cheers
Sean.
Howdy Y'all,
I know why they work so hard to cover their asses. Eisenhower let the Zetas (Grays) move into America in the 50's. BIG Mistake! They more or less did whatever the hell they wanted to do. Abductions, cattle mutilations, the Zeta population exploded in underground bases, and it was all a BIG, BIG problem for the US.Gov. There was a secret war fought over it. Our SFs against their alien ray guns. We actually had to solicit help from other benevolent aliens to eradicate the Zeta incursion. You wanted to know what is so damn secret out in Arizona, well, that's it. Dreamland, Area 51, Dulce, and a host of other "secret" bases all have extensive underground structures which were built by the Zetas using Human slave labor. This is what the US.Gov is so scared you will find out. They made a deal with evil aliens and civilian Americans paid the price with their lives. This war is over now but the information is still restricted.
Then the other aspect of why they don't want you to know about the benevolent aliens. The benevolent aliens want us to eliminate all nuclear weapons and quit using oil as an energy source. Well this destroys their main tool for blackmail, the nukes. Then it destroys their power base, the oil. The Illuminati, and other powers that be will loose their stranglehold on humanity if the benevolent aliens are allowed to talk to John Q. Public.
I am ready to talk to the Galactic Federation. I want to move forward, and not live in this filthy quagmired world. Radiant Energy is obviously the way to go, its free, its clean, its universally available. Plus we can build these with it...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Up to now our politicians have reacted to the overwhelming evidence and reports with ridicule or derision, and met serious questions with silence...or worse.
See prime example here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0aedNpZeOw
Regards...
Hahhahahhaaahahahhahhaahahaaaaaa!
Well...you know what they say...all work and no play.. :)
the alien saucer ships are positively charged on the top, and negatively charged on the bottom.
the narrow ridge on the side, keeps them electrically sepperate. because electrons do not like to turn sharp corners.
the bump on top of the ship, gives the ship more surface area. it allows the top of the ship to hold more positive charge, than the bottom can hold negative charge!
the result of this imbalance, is that the ship moves upwards. in the direction of the more powerfully charged top!
this sepperation of charges, is one of the things that inspired me to electrically sepperate the peak of the pyramid, from the base of the pyramid.
the aliens themselves most likely learned about the upwards lift, because once they accidentally made the peak of one of their pyramids, more powerfully charged than the base!
Quote from: nitinnun on July 31, 2008, 08:54:34 AMthe alien saucer ships are positively charged on the top, and negatively charged on the bottom
I guess you have to be a little more specific which model you mean. This one? (http://www.steelmarkonline.com/download_files/Billy_Meier_494.bmp) There are many different types, some (a lot) more, some less advanced.
alright.
"all" saucer shaped UFO's are positively charged on the top half, and negatively charged on the bottom half.
without the top half being more charged up than the bottom half, the ship will drop like a stone.
because the imbalance in the 2 charges, is what levitates the ship!
by the way. inside the ship are 2 spinning disks. one spinning clockwise, and the otehr spinning counter-clockwise.
the spinning of these 2 disks, prevents the ship from flipping over.
and the clockwise spin of one disk, prevent the other disk from making the ship spin like a top.
they also put magnetis on these 2 disks. so that electricity would be generated, when the magnet on one disk passes by the magnet on the other disk.
the conflicting of the magnets on these 2 disks, also produces a VERY powerful magnetic field. which shields the ship and its passengers form the radiation in space.
is that specific enough?
Its looks like a "Wimhurst" 2 wheels rotating opposite direction creating a pos/neg charge on each side.
What technologies they are using to powerup the main disk for the rotation? Also what is the RPM for the disk? :)
Ask the Pentagon. :)
Quote from: nitinnun on July 31, 2008, 03:14:10 PMis that specific enough?
Yes, thanks. However, I'm not sure that this is the way it's actually done most of the time.
Maybe people have noticed that there are almost no "sharp" pictures of the vehicles ? at least not ones that are in the air. The surface (only) often looks silvery (or metallic) blurred, somewhat like if you watch an object at a distance on the road on a hot summer day where the hot air is distorting the view.
One hypothesis for this is that the vehicle is not fully in "our" 3 dimensions, meaning it is partially in some other dimensions (which could be location
and/or time). So, basically, to get from one place to another, they move to some other set of dimensions where these two "places" are "very close" (dimensions can have different sizes or be compressed/expanded) and then move back to "our" 3 (or 4, if you add "our" time) dimensions.
Where am I going with this? Well, if you have this kind of technology then you don't worry too much about charges (on the outside), I guess.
Quote from: orbs on July 31, 2008, 05:47:07 PM
Yes, thanks. However, I'm not sure that this is the way it's actually done most of the time.
Maybe people have noticed that there are almost no "sharp" pictures of the vehicles ? at least not ones that are in the air. The surface (only) often looks silvery (or metallic) blurred, somewhat like if you watch an object at a distance on the road on a hot summer day where the hot air is distorting the view.
One hypothesis for this is that the vehicle is not fully in "our" 3 dimensions, meaning it is partially in some other dimensions (which could be location and/or time). So, basically, to get from one place to another, they move to some other set of dimensions where these two "places" are "very close" (dimensions can have different sizes or be compressed/expanded) and then move back to "our" 3 (or 4, if you add "our" time) dimensions.
Where am I going with this? Well, if you have this kind of technology then you don't worry too much about charges (on the outside), I guess.
Got to agree with this post but also I think the main thing is that they know how to manipulate matter and this includes the frequency it vibrates at.
We have ways in this dimension of ours to hide things from peoples eyes by changing the vibration and some people can master the art of training their mind and body to tune into stuff others cannot see.
Exciting stuff and would be great if more evidence gets produced in the years to come.
Cheers
Sean.
how is what i typed "not" valid??
the distortions you refer too, are because the ships are partly in the 4th density. where all energy and matter vibrate at a higher frequency.
in 4D, "all time is happening at once". or, "all time is singular".
either way, time flows differently in 4D.
so partially being in 4D, causes the ship to look distorted to us here in 3D.
because our time is not synchronized with their time.
Quote from: orbs on July 31, 2008, 05:47:07 PM
Yes, thanks. However, I'm not sure that this is the way it's actually done most of the time.
Maybe people have noticed that there are almost no "sharp" pictures of the vehicles ? at least not ones that are in the air. The surface (only) often looks silvery (or metallic) blurred, somewhat like if you watch an object at a distance on the road on a hot summer day where the hot air is distorting the view.
One hypothesis for this is that the vehicle is not fully in "our" 3 dimensions, meaning it is partially in some other dimensions (which could be location and/or time). So, basically, to get from one place to another, they move to some other set of dimensions where these two "places" are "very close" (dimensions can have different sizes or be compressed/expanded) and then move back to "our" 3 (or 4, if you add "our" time) dimensions.
Where am I going with this? Well, if you have this kind of technology then you don't worry too much about charges (on the outside), I guess.
Howdy Y'all,
Nitinnun, I have read that Galactic Federation ships exist on the Etheric Plane (6th Density I think) primarily, but they can lower their frequency so that they manifest as low as the primary Physical Plane (3rd Density). My understanding is that the Physical Plane holds the 3rd, 4th and 5th Densities. Is this your understanding? I understand the Planes of Existence well. I have had many years to contemplate them. The Densities are rather new (this year) to me. From what I understand most everything on Earth is 3rd Density right now. But there are advanced humans in the 4th and 5th Densities that are around us yet invisible and intangible to us. In order to perceive the 4th and 5th Densities one must raise his own consciousness to that level. Also when the majority of mankind is able to perceive the 4th density it will cause a planetary shift in consciousness and the entire Earth will ascend to the 4th Density. So tell me what you think...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 02:57:27 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Nitinnun, I have read that Galactic Federation ships exist on the Etheric Plane (6th Density I think) primarily, but they can lower their frequency so that they manifest as low as the primary Physical Plane (3rd Density). My understanding is that the Physical Plane holds the 3rd, 4th and 5th Densities. Is this your understanding? I understand the Planes of Existence well. I have had many years to contemplate them. The Densities are rather new (this year) to me. From what I understand most everything on Earth is 3rd Density right now. But there are advanced humans in the 4th and 5th Densities that are around us yet invisible and intangible to us. In order to perceive the 4th and 5th Densities one must raise his own consciousness to that level. Also when the majority of mankind is able to perceive the 4th density it will cause a planetary shift in consciousness and the entire Earth will ascend to the 4th Density. So tell me what you think...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Sound like you read the book "The GAIA Project" :)
I read this book too, its a good book!
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 02:57:27 PM
Howdy Y'all,
Nitinnun, I have read that Galactic Federation ships exist on the Etheric Plane (6th Density I think) primarily, but they can lower their frequency so that they manifest as low as the primary Physical Plane (3rd Density). My understanding is that the Physical Plane holds the 3rd, 4th and 5th Densities. Is this your understanding? I understand the Planes of Existence well. I have had many years to contemplate them. The Densities are rather new (this year) to me. From what I understand most everything on Earth is 3rd Density right now. But there are advanced humans in the 4th and 5th Densities that are around us yet invisible and intangible to us. In order to perceive the 4th and 5th Densities one must raise his own consciousness to that level. Also when the majority of mankind is able to perceive the 4th density it will cause a planetary shift in consciousness and the entire Earth will ascend to the 4th Density. So tell me what you think...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Just my opinion and nothing to do with religion by the way :)
You need to learn about why you are here in the 3rd dimension first and why you have been here many times before also.
Also learn what dimension your energy(Soul) goes to, before returning for the next round of experiences!
Once you understand this then the other dimensions fall into place as such.
Natures laws of the 3rd dimension are there for a very valid reason including Physics as we know it.
But this is not set in stone and hence when the time is right the OU/FE dream will hopefully come out!
Cheers
Sean.
the universe is made of light and sound.
it is just a hologram. it is a computer program. like the holo-deck on star trek.
and the purpose of the universe, is to train the people in it, to create and run their own universe.
so that they can one day graduate from this universe, and go off to make their own universe.
matter is just "frozen" energy.
matter is compressed energy. and can be expanded.
high frequency energy, unfreezes matter.
it unlocks matter.
the more matter is unlocked, the more it is energy, and the less it is matter.
the more matter is unlocked, the higher the density.
my understanding is that most of the pleiadians live in 5D. and that some spiritual issue is preventing them from graduating to 6D.
i think this social issue, is that they are too biased towards goody two-shoed-ness.
that they do not appreciate the balance between the light and the darkness, as much as a wiser person does.
the balance between light and darkness, makes the universe possible.
it also makes spiritual evolution possible.
and the 5D pleiadians are so stuck in fluff-land, where everything is disney, that they are spiritually evolving at the speed of jack-booted-snail.
i'm 90% certain that i was a pleiadian in my last life.
i used to be in my childhood, like i see pleiadians now.
with all that soft brained fluffiness. and the inability to call someone an asshole to their face.
it is comfortable to be fluffy. but it lacks the substance needed, to evolve.
i'm sick of being stuck in the lower densities. i want to graduate to the higher densities..
Quote from: nitinnun on August 01, 2008, 02:29:04 PMhow is what i typed "not" valid??
Generalizing too much, in my opinion.
Just take a deep breath. :)
Howdy TheOne, CLaNZeR,
If I understand this right, originally I am from the 12th Density. The I am that I am is a tiny little piece of the Celestial Host. I am one of Gods creations here to experience creation. Supposedly the best place to experience creation is the 3rd Density because the matter is the most dense here and has the best learning curve associated with it. But, eventually we learn all that we can from the 3rd density and it is time to move up the ladder and learn about what is in the 4th Density. I think that Earth is a being also, like we are. She has been in the 3rd density for billions of years, and is ready to ascend to the 4th Density. We are all a part of her and will ascend with her.
I haven't read "The GAIA Project" but I will look for it. Is Gaia Mother Earths name?
OK, thanks for the info...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: nitinnun on August 01, 2008, 03:45:57 PM
my understanding is that most of the pleiadians live in 5D. and that some spiritual issue is preventing them from graduating to 6D.
i think this social issue, is that they are too biased towards goody two-shoed-ness.
that they do not appreciate the balance between the light and the darkness, as much as a wiser person does.
and the 5D pleiadians are so stuck in fluff-land, where everything is disney, that they are spiritually evolving at the speed of jack-booted-snail.
You are making it very clear cut in your 3rd dimension logical mind.
I wonder if they judge you as you judge them? umm no I dought if it even enters their minds.
Ego is one of the hardest things to grasp in other frequencies, because Ego is one of the 3rd density challenges that others got over a long, long time ago :)
Let go of EGO and your half way there, wish I easly could, but I am human and doing this experience from my choice, so it is something I have to adjust to.
Cheers
Sean.
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
Howdy TheOne, CLaNZeR,
If I understand this right, originally I am from the 12th Density. The I am that I am is a tiny little piece of the Celestial Host. I am one of Gods creations here to experience creation.
Again EGO kicking in, which is cool and part of your makeup for this experience.
As I said before, you are jumping a head to understand other dimensions, yet you need to understand where you are and why you are, before even trying to analyse other dimensions.
Understand your position first and then explore the rest, with a very open mind.
Cheers
Sean.
z.monkey
There is no ladder.
Couldn't resist...
You are God, manifesting as z.monkey.
Ego the focusing illusion here and now.
A tool to creating unique experience.
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Well, I not saying I started at the top. What I am saying is that each of our spirits were created by the Celestial Host in the 12th Density. We start our journey in the 3rd Density as humans. I am trying not to let the EGO play with this and be as rational as I can. After spending several thousand incarnations in the 3rd density we reach a point where there are no new experiences for us in the Third Density and move up to the 4th Density.
So is anyone going to answer my question about how the Planes of Existence relate to the Densities?
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: JoinTheFun on August 01, 2008, 04:32:31 PM
z.monkey
There is no ladder.
Couldn't resist...
You are God, manifesting as z.monkey.
Ego the focusing illusion here and now.
A tool to creating unique experience.
Could not agree more, everyone is from the same source, call it GOD if you want.
But it is from the same source either way.
There is no moving up.
Or down, for that matter.
We are as complete as we'll ever be, since the present life is the accepted illusion and with it, the passing of time.
Being is its own meaning, experiencing.
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 04:32:57 PM
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Well, I not saying I started at the top. What I am saying is that each of our spirits were created by the Celestial Host in the 12th Density. We start our journey in the 3rd Density as humans. I am trying not to let the EGO play with this and be as rational as I can. After spending several thousand incarnations in the 3rd density we reach a point where there are no new experiences for us in the Third Density and move up to the 4th Density.
So is anyone going to answer my question about how the Planes of Existence relate to the Densities?
Blessed Be Brothers...
My opinion again, so trying to not to preach.
No you are correct, we all started from the top in a round about way, because we are all from that big fat energy source. Some call it GOD, some call it alot of other names.
You aim for the 4th Dimension, but where do you think you exist between your 3rd dimension experiences?
The 4th Dimension?
I think not. (again just my opinion)
Cheers
Sean.
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 03:49:24 PM
Howdy TheOne, CLaNZeR,
If I understand this right, originally I am from the 12th Density. The I am that I am is a tiny little piece of the Celestial Host. I am one of Gods creations here to experience creation. Supposedly the best place to experience creation is the 3rd Density because the matter is the most dense here and has the best learning curve associated with it. But, eventually we learn all that we can from the 3rd density and it is time to move up the ladder and learn about what is in the 4th Density. I think that Earth is a being also, like we are. She has been in the 3rd density for billions of years, and is ready to ascend to the 4th Density. We are all a part of her and will ascend with her.
I haven't read "The GAIA Project" but I will look for it. Is Gaia Mother Earths name?
OK, thanks for the info...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Cheap but good book
http://www.amazon.com/Gaia-Project-Earths-Coming-Changes/dp/0738710423
Quote from: JoinTheFun on August 01, 2008, 04:39:24 PM
There is no moving up.
Or down, for that matter.
We are as complete as we'll ever be, since the present life is the accepted illusion and with it, the passing of time.
Being is its own meaning, experiencing.
Exactly
Each one of us is in the dimension that suits the experiences needed (notice I do not say lessons) that we need to experience at this time.
You may be more spiritually advanced in some area's but again in my opinion, if you need to experience something, you go where ya got to go, no matter what level you may of achieved on other subjects.
This is a unique time on this planet and at this dimension at this time and you cannot blame most experienced souls for returning for the events ahead!!!
the problem with 5D-stuck pleiadians, is that they have demonized "ego".
"ego" is really "individuality". it is a required part of all souls above 2D.
demonizing a neccessary part of the soul, is not understanding. it is not mastery.
and mastery is what is required, to graduate.
but when people on this planet demonize "ego", they are not thinking of "individuality.
instead, they are thinking of a steriotype.
a steriotype of a person who has an extreme amount of confidence and self worth, yet who is severely lacking in the awareness given by the upper chakra's.
that is, a steriotype of an obnoxious fool.
an obnoxious fool like that, has likely already mastered 3D. or is on the bullet train to doing so.
what is holding this fool back, is that they deny their heart chakra. which is required to go to 4D.
their heart chakra, and the rudimentary wisdom that comes with it.
the people who NEED to complete 3D, are the very people who deny the importance of "ego"!
these people must admit that individuality is important. that it deserves a place in the universe.
they must develop the capacity to hold personal opinions.
personal opinions, which do not break like glass the moment that one person does not agree with them!
yet at the same time, these ego-deniers must never let their new found solar plexus chakra, become stronger than their heart chakra.
because one chakra must ALWAYS be stronger, than the chakra below it. or else there is spiritual stagnation. and very possibly disaster.
deleted
Howdy CLaNZeR,
I know it as the Mental Plane of Existance, I don't know which Density that is. I have been trying to relate the Planes to the Densities but there is no quick reference for that. Here is what I have extrapolated so far.
3rd Density is the Lower Physical Plane
4th Density is the Upper Physical Plane also called the Etheric Plane
5th Density is the Lower Astral Plane
6th Density is the Upper Astral Plane
7th Density is the Lower Mental Plane
8th Density is the Upper Mental Plane
9th Density is the Lower Angelic Plane
10th Density is the Upper Angelic Plane
11th Density is the Lower Archangelic Plane
12th Density is the Upper Archangelic Plane, or what we would consider the Godhead.
The Celestial Host (God) exists in realms above the 12th Density.
Like I said this is my extrapolation and I am not sure if it is correct. No one seems to be able to verify or deny its validity...
Blessed Be Brothers...
This thread is getting interesting
:)
I am suprised to see this many people here actually understand that life is not JUST physical .
One way to know that you are on the right path is that you no longer have as much need to complain or find fault with others .
We are all MUCH more than we have been taught we are .
We are infinite spiritual beings that have chosen to incarnate into the physical realm simply to experience being physical .
Little progress can be made as long as we still choose to see ourselves as ONLY physical .
The more we understand that we are truly INFINITE beings ...........the more we can achieve
gary
@resonance
I totally resonate with what you wrote.
Quote from: nitinnun on August 01, 2008, 04:53:09 PM
the problem with 5D-stuck pleiadians, is that they have demonized "ego".
"ego" is really "individuality". it is a required part of all souls above 2D.
demonizing a neccessary part of the soul, is not understanding. it is not mastery.
and mastery is what is required, to graduate.
but when people on this planet demonize "ego", they are not thinking of "individuality.
instead, they are thinking of a steriotype.
a steriotype of a person who has an extreme amount of confidence and self worth, yet who is severely lacking in the awareness given by the upper chakra's.
that is, a steriotype of an obnoxious fool.
an obnoxious fool like that, has likely already mastered 3D. or is on the bullet train to doing so.
what is holding this fool back, is that they deny their heart chakra. which is required to go to 4D.
their heart chakra, and the rudimentary wisdom that comes with it.
the people who NEED to complete 3D, are the very people who deny the importance of "ego"!
these people must admit that individuality is important. that it deserves a place in the universe.
they must develop the capacity to hold personal opinions.
personal opinions, which do not break like glass the moment that one person does not agree with them!
yet at the same time, these ego-deniers must never let their new found solar plexus chakra, become stronger than their heart chakra.
because one chakra must ALWAYS be stronger, than the chakra below it. or else there is spiritual stagnation. and very possibly disaster.
I think there is one thing you have not found in life mate and that is BALANCE.
You are even dividing the Chakra's into indivdual elements.Would you treat one child better than another?
I have spent many years Balancing my Chakra's to get the information that I needed at the given time.
It is not about priority, it is about balance and flow.
You have valid insight, but you are adding confusion by your logical thinking and explanations.
You can conentrate on each Chakra and that is good, but if they are not in tune/balanced then you are again aiming for one area.
This is fine, if it is your path to travel along and I will listen to your opinion, mine was probably the same at one time.
It's good and you go for it, it is your experience.
Cheers
Sean.
Quote from: resonanceman on August 01, 2008, 04:56:37 PM
We are all MUCH more than we have been taught we are .
We are infinite spiritual beings that have chosen to incarnate into the physical realm simply to experience being physical .
Well put Gary
Howdy Resonanceman,
I think everyone understands at a unconscious, fundamental level that they are more than an animal. Some people choose to ignore that just for the fun of it.
I have animals that are on the threshold of human consciousness. One Black Lab is so intelligent that she frequently out thinks my wife. This is an animal that is ready to incarnate as a human. She is moving up from 2nd Density to 3rd Density. I expect her to talk to me in English soon.
Blessed Be Brothers...
@z.monkey
All is Divine, all is one, God is in every plane, every dimension, every universe, in every atom, everywhere. Everything we perceive and that includes ourself, is the Divine manifesting itself.
So I don't agree with the Divine being on some 12th plane, unless you see those planes as interlocked, intertwined, joined.
Joined Fun, haha.
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
Howdy CLaNZeR,
I know it as the Mental Plane of Existance, I don't know which Density that is. I have been trying to relate the Planes to the Densities but there is no quick reference for that. Here is what I have extrapolated so far.
3rd Density is the Lower Physical Plane
4th Density is the Upper Physical Plane also called the Etheric Plane
5th Density is the Lower Astral Plane
6th Density is the Upper Astral Plane
7th Density is the Lower Mental Plane
8th Density is the Upper Mental Plane
9th Density is the Lower Angelic Plane
10th Density is the Upper Angelic Plane
11th Density is the Lower Archangelic Plane
12th Density is the Upper Archangelic Plane, or what we would consider the Godhead.
The Celestial Host (God) exists in realms above the 12th Density.
Like I said this is my extrapolation and I am not sure if it is correct. No one seems to be able to verify or deny its validity...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Again where do the 12 dimensions come from?
If you reach the 12th level, do you think there is not a 13th?, maybe you hit the 12th and then are told there are another 1000 to go.
But seriously, why even worry about anything so above that it can not be understood at the level that our human brain filters stuff out at?
We need to do the level we are at, surley?
My opinion again, but when your body has expired in this dimension, your energy/soul will go to another dimension. In this dimension there are many. many different realms/dimensions where you will end up being where you are meant to be as I believe one of the universal rules is that Like Attracts Like.
So when you arrive at this dimension after you have had a rough ride of life here, you will be in the company of people that suit your energy and also suit where you are in your spiritual path.
In this Realm you will be around energies that suit you, it will not be like the experience you have just done, but also remember just this one dimension is split into millions or maybe more realms.
You are jumping across dimensions without thinking about the vast amount of realms between these dimensions.
Hence my initial opinion that people should explore their position more before exploring more.
Cheers
Sean.
Howdy JoinTheFun,
Absolutely, everything is interconnected, albeit nutating at different rates...
Goodwill to All, for All is One...
Blessed Be Brother...
z.monkey
Could well be that your Lab is a fragment of an entity also experiencing human life, no need for an upgrade, then.
Maybe even your own entity.
Or your wife's.
We experiencers, perceivers are essentially all the same.
Only our bodies differ.
I remember wanting to be in the 5th Dimension next to Marilyn McCoo...(without Billy Davis Junior of course). :)
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on August 01, 2008, 05:23:59 PM
I remember wanting to be in the 5th Dimension next to Marilyn McCoo...(without Billy Davis Junior of course). :)
Regards...
hehehe
I knew there was a valid reason for dreams ;D ;D ;D
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Well, we need to know our place in the grand scheme. So we can plan our future, and know how to interact with our neighbors. Plus there are Physical Plane problems to address that require knowledge of at least the one plane above us. Tesla used to say that he drew power from the Ethers, to me this means the Etheric Plane. We are physically aware of the Planes of Existence beneath our level but the Planes of Existence above our level are intangible and invisible. That makes me curious. It makes me want to find out what is there just for the sake of finding out. I'm going to use my Black Lab as an analogy again. I completely understand her world. Everything that she knows I know. But she doesn't understand my world. "What is that you are doing on that funny beige box, Dad?" "When are you going to feed me, Dad?" "Where is the dog bone, Dad?" She looks at the simple things that I do with mystery. I look at the things Angels do with mystery. This is all abut me understanding my universe. I am exploring my current existence by trying to understand where we sit in the grand scheme. I hope all that made some sort of sense...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
Howdy CLaNZeR,
I know it as the Mental Plane of Existance, I don't know which Density that is. I have been trying to relate the Planes to the Densities but there is no quick reference for that. Here is what I have extrapolated so far.
3rd Density is the Lower Physical Plane
4th Density is the Upper Physical Plane also called the Etheric Plane
5th Density is the Lower Astral Plane
6th Density is the Upper Astral Plane
7th Density is the Lower Mental Plane
8th Density is the Upper Mental Plane
9th Density is the Lower Angelic Plane
10th Density is the Upper Angelic Plane
11th Density is the Lower Archangelic Plane
12th Density is the Upper Archangelic Plane, or what we would consider the Godhead.
The Celestial Host (God) exists in realms above the 12th Density.
Like I said this is my extrapolation and I am not sure if it is correct. No one seems to be able to verify or deny its validity...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Zmonkey
I have never thought to much of the different densities or dimensions for that matter .
I have never found anyone that can really explain them
I find that passing from one dimension is much like passing between 2 states in the USA .. If there is a sign you might be aware of leaving one state and entering another .............but nothing around you really changes .
gary
Quote from: JoinTheFun on August 01, 2008, 05:14:41 PM
@z.monkey
All is Divine, all is one, God is in every plane, every dimension, every universe, in every atom, everywhere. Everything we perceive and that includes ourself, is the Divine manifesting itself.
So I don't agree with the Divine being on some 12th plane, unless you see those planes as interlocked, intertwined, joined.
Joined Fun, haha.
I agree
The bottom line is there is only ONE life
That ONE life manifests as all that is ........ALL things physical as well as all things non physical .
Our choice is to strive to live as part of the ONE ......... Or struggle along as someone that thinks life is physical and we are all seperate and alone .
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 05:29:50 PM
Howdy CLaNZeR,
Well, we need to know our place in the grand scheme. So we can plan our future, and know how to interact with our neighbors. Plus there are Physical Plane problems to address that require knowledge of at least the one plane above us. Tesla used to say that he drew power from the Ethers, to me this means the Etheric Plane. We are physically aware of the Planes of Existence beneath our level but the Planes of Existence above our level are intangible and invisible. That makes me curious. It makes me want to find out what is there just for the sake of finding out. I'm going to use my Black Lab as an analogy again. I completely understand her world. Everything that she knows I know. But she doesn't understand my world. "What is that you are doing on that funny beige box, Dad?" "When are you going to feed me, Dad?" "Where is the dog bone, Dad?" She looks at the simple things that I do with mystery. I look at the things Angels do with mystery. This is all abut me understanding my universe. I am exploring my current existence by trying to understand where we sit in the grand scheme. I hope all that made some sort of sense...
Blessed Be Brothers...
It does make sense what you have written mate, and good on you for looking deeper, rather than just doing your 9-5 existence. On the back of that sentence, some people are here to do their 9-5 life and they will do that till it is their time to move on and it is not my place to intefere with their path as such.
It is really difficult trying to take into every consideration of all people doing their own thing, but that is what they are doing and good on them.
You obviously need to know your place in the Grand Scheme and good on you for realising that. I have been where you are at and the only way you are going to get through it, is by feeding your need to know.
My only advice is to keep going the way you are going and of all the information you gain, take what fits and leave what does not. Do not dismiss that information that does not fit, keep it on the back burner as you do not know a few years down the line, where that information may just make sense.
Cheers
Sean
I'm sure many here will have seen this video interview before, but a lot of what Alex Collier says resonates with the sentiments expressed here - and after watching it, you will probably agree that he certainly believes it! It's actually pretty dated now and quite a few of the predictions he made didn't come to pass, but it's still good stuff imo...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/andromedacom_12.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/andromedacom_12.htm)
Well, this is getting interesting and I totally agree with CLaNZeR.
I do have a question. How many of you enlighten people can feel their spiritual body the same as their physical body at all times, not just when meditating? Also, can you move that spiritual body with your will the same as a physical body muscle. Those fortunate few that can honestly answer yes have going beyond the irrelevant theories and truly know there is no death.
Regards, Larry
Quote from: LarryC on August 01, 2008, 06:56:37 PM
Well, this is getting interesting and I totally agree with CLaNZeR.
I do have a question. How many of you enlighten people can feel their spiritual body the same as their physical body at all times, not just when meditating?
Most of the time ..........not ALL the time .
Quote
Also, can you move that spiritual body with your will the same as a physical body muscle.
The same as ?
How do you define moving the nonphysical ?
I would say it is more like moving in harmony with your higher self ..........when in harmony you tend to move more as one ........ I was going to say your whole self moves as one ..........but I don't believe that we can have any real idea of our whole selves from the level we are now on .
Quote
Those fortunate few that can honestly answer yes have going beyond the irrelevant theories and truly know there is no death.
Regards, Larry
Yes ........the fear of death vanishes when you become aware enough of your higher self .
The process we see as death from the physical realm appears different from the higher realms .
From the higher relams it could be described more like awakening from a physical experiennce
Awakening to full awareness of who you really are is something to look forward to .
:)
gary
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 04:32:57 PM
So is anyone going to answer my question about how the Planes of Existence relate to the Densities?
Note that the definitions are somewhat arbitrary (meaning that there are many different definitions that might not always map to each other 1:1).
I guess the ones you were referring to (http://www.salrachele.com/lifeonthecuttingedge.htm) are:
| density | # | dimension |
| mineral kingdom | 1 | existence |
| planet kingdom | 2 | magnitude |
| animal kingdom | 3 | depth |
| higher human | 4 | time |
| light body | 5 | love |
| soul body | 6 | soul plane |
| oversoul | 7 | lower celestial heavens |
| angels | 8 | angelic worlds |
| archangels | 9 | god worlds |
| creator gods | 10 | paradise worlds |
| universal gods | 11 | godhead |
| godhead | 12 | great mistery |
So, density is a state of vibration [can only be in one at a time, or more precisely, there is a dominant frequency], dimension is a realm/plane of existence [can be in multiple; can be nested].
Howdy Orbs,
Thank You ! That is helpful. I hate to pick nits but my query was the relationship between Planes of Existence and Densities. What I understand as the Planes of Existence are;
1. Physical
2. Etheric
3. Astral
4. Mental
5. Angelic
6. Archangelic
7. Celestial
Thanks again, very helpful...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Howdy Y'all,
I had to edit that last post. I screwed it up really good.
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: z.monkey on August 01, 2008, 08:36:59 PMI hate to pick nits but my query was the relationship between Planes of Existence and Densities.
A being or object can be of a particular density and find itself in one or more planes. So there is not a binding relationship between them but there are some "practical" limitations as to how far they can be apart (for example, a 12th density being could get "pulled" into 3rd dimension, thus lowering density to 3rd or 4th, if focusing too closely).
Howdy Orbs,
Yes I agree that we can exist in multiple planes of existence simultaneously. As a human it is our nature to exist in the physical plane with a body made from physical atoms. But our Spirit, or Soul is seated on the Mental Place. There is a gulf there and as you said our different bodies cannot be far apart. I agree and there is an interface which is setup on the Planes between the Physical and the Mental Planes of existence. The Physical body interfaces to an Etheric Body, which interfaces to an Astral body which interfaces to the Mental body. So as a "normal" human you are actually occupying four Planes of Existence simultaneously. Now before anyone goes to start questioning this I have been studying this for a long time. There are groups of Ascended Masters all over the globe. They watch us, and record everything. They study mankind as a profession. These many groups make their findings known to mankind, albeit there are very few incarnate humans who actually look for this information. These Ascended Masters of Humanity care a great deal about Humanity and our Mother Earth. They guide the world in a manner which is beneficial for all of mankind. You may have heard of or have been associated with one of the groups and not even know about it. Those of you that have know who they are. These groups of Ascended Masters hold the repository of knowledge which has been accumulated for all time. They literally know everything. The groups that I have studied under are the Adelphi Organization, The Great White Brotherhood, and The Great School of Natural Science. You can look up any of these organizations on the internet. Everything that has been know is still known, and we can access it in the Akashic Record on the Etheric Plane of existence. So despite all the fear mongering in the world we are really all going to be all right. The future is going to be awesome, and from where we sit now, thoroughly mind boggling...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Now SG-1 took care of the Ori I think it's safe enough so I'll ascend, steal the secrets and come back and blab everything.
Oh wait, damn, now it won't work. Ok so that's what I'm not going to do, in case anyone is interested.
Me and my big mouth.
Quote from: resonanceman on August 01, 2008, 07:30:50 PM
How do you define moving the nonphysical ?
gary
Thanks Gary, for your honest response.
So only one of the many spiritual theorist here can somewhat feel their spiritual body.
Can any of the other spiritual theorist here answer Gary's question without more of their non-experienced theory?
@A22,
Great pickup on the Ori's standard comment, also love SG-1.
Regards, Larry
I'm getting a message from McKay right now, apparently some developments in Atlantis, say tuned.
Well my ex girl friend Samanta Carter and the cousin of my cousin McKay tell me that they only have 10 dimensions. Also apparently McKay found a new way to powerup Atlantis by using a toroid coil, apparently he worked with Steven Mark for a while the last month.
Rest easy there Loner...all opinions are welcome as long as done respectfully.
I see no problem with your words.
Regards...
Quote from: Loner on August 02, 2008, 02:25:38 AM
Wow, re-reading what I just typed puts me in the "Arrogant A*****e" catagory, and I apologize to all
in advance of your indignation. I deserve any comments you wish to make, and I'll read them, just
so it can put me in my place, but I'll never have the courage to post in this thread again.
Loner
I think you are being a little to hard on yourself here .
You have as much right to express your thoughts as anyone else here.
Expressing your thoughts well takes practice . ......
It is not easy for me.
My thoughts just don't flow in normal sentence structure . .
I find that going back and changing the spacing makes it more readable .
An example
You wrote
Quote
why are people "drooling"
over the desert. Enjoy the meal. I honestly feel sorrow for those who have spent so much time checking
out what it will be like, when we're already so fortunate to be HERE! From personal experience, enjoy NOW
same words spaced a little different
why are people "drooling"over the desert.
Enjoy the meal.
I honestly feel sorrow for those who have spent so much time checkingout what it will be like, when we're already so fortunate to be HERE!
From personal experience, enjoy NOW
Isn't the version that is has a little space in between the sentences a little easier to read ?
I do agree with you .
Most people now are to busy to enjoy the moment .
It seems to take a certain level of spiritual awareness to be able to stop and smell the roses as you go through the motions of living .
gary
I recall reading decades ago about a Frederic Myers who, as head of the Society for Phychical research, England, was deeply invloved in the question of life-after-death. When he himself died, a series of "cross-corrospondence" between many spirit mediums from all over the world, took place, each receiving a piece of a message (apparently from Myers) that in itself was meaningless, but when all the received messages were put together, they offered pretty conclusive proof that they were indeed coming from Myers. The reason for the lengthy introduction is that Myers also stated "from the other-side" that there were 7 levels of existence, not the 12 that are being talked about.
Just thought it worth a mention...
Quote from: Sprocket on August 02, 2008, 08:21:00 PMMyers also stated "from the other-side" that there were 7 levels of existence, not the 12 that are being talked about.
My understanding is that after level/density/dimension 4 it's not straight forward (linear) anymore. So it becomes kind of infinite, something most of us have difficulty to comprehend. So they introduces some more or less arbitrary levels so our minds can at least partially follow. A simplification. And not every being uses the same kind of simplification, and this results in different numbers. But the overall idea should be about the same (and again, depending on level of awareness and "perspective", doesn't
have to be). It's pretty flexible ? that makes it so difficult to fit it into our fixed rules for what science (currently) is.
To me, I believe our perception of reality may be determined by the limit of our imagination.
Regards...
Quote from: Sprocket on August 01, 2008, 06:37:26 PM
I'm sure many here will have seen this video interview before, but a lot of what Alex Collier says resonates with the sentiments expressed here - and after watching it, you will probably agree that he certainly believes it! It's actually pretty dated now and quite a few of the predictions he made didn't come to pass, but it's still good stuff imo...
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/andromedacom_12.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/andromeda/andromedacom_12.htm)
I had seen ALEX COLLIER & HIS CONTACT WITH LIFE FROM ANDROMEDA before, but not seen the lectures below until now.
Interesting stuff.
Alex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture
Part 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ
Part 2
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ADAuZ082y-4
Part 3
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WkEsR5Id3gU
Part 4
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bkxOzsVk6bU
Part 5
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovk7sdjsxuk
Cheers
Sean.
Quote from: CLaNZeR on August 06, 2008, 08:19:08 AMAlex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture
Apparently recorded about 12? years ago. Posted parts: 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Ls7lcturUQ) 2 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADAuZ082y-4) 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkEsR5Id3gU) 4 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bkxOzsVk6bU) 5 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ovk7sdjsxuk) 6 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYwr3-4Xtjo) 7 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3f_0fV-xA) 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6uIKMTMkYNs) 9 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSIzAE3lWOw) 10 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=w2hV5-XB2bw) 11 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YHC8InRZqKI)
Isn't he the brother of Jordan Collier? (Yes, another TV show reference)
Quote from: CLaNZeR on August 06, 2008, 08:19:08 AMAlex Collier - Moon & Mars Lecture
Apparently recorded in 1996. Links to all parts: 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=x4js4Tykc8o) 2 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADAuZ082y-4) 3 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WkEsR5Id3gU) 4 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bkxOzsVk6bU) 5 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ovk7sdjsxuk) 6 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dYwr3-4Xtjo) 7 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3f_0fV-xA) 8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6uIKMTMkYNs) 9 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=iSIzAE3lWOw) 10 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=w2hV5-XB2bw) 11 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YHC8InRZqKI) 12 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=38qOaVCo0PU)
I watched it going 'perhaps perhaps perhaps' until he said the moon is a spare ship built around a PLANET? from another solar system and it made it's way here in the tail of a comet.
The issue I have is pretty obvious, other solar systems are light years away and as such it would just plain take far far far tooooo damn long even if it was our closest neighbour.
He may have been telling the truth I suppose but if so his blue man group rejects are feeding him a tall tale.
Quote from: aether22 on August 07, 2008, 04:11:55 AM
I watched it going 'perhaps perhaps perhaps' until he said the moon is a spare ship built around a PLANET? from another solar system and it made it's way here in the tail of a comet.
The issue I have is pretty obvious, other solar systems are light years away and as such it would just plain take far far far tooooo damn long even if it was our closest neighbour.
He may have been telling the truth I suppose but if so his blue man group rejects are feeding him a tall tale.
Got to admit there is a few things he says that did not ring true also with me, but alot of other stuff I have heard from other sources that sort of back it up.
Like anything else you should take what fits and leave the rest !
Would love to get hold of the pictures he used on the slides in colour and good resolution as in the video they are hard to make out.
Interesting stuff as usual!
Now back to the real world for me today hehe
Cheers
Sean.
The moon making the trip on the tail of a comet seemed a little to hard to accept for me also...at first.
But then what about the decades it took for the chosen people to reach the promised land in the bible.
In a time of desperation a man will grasp at a straw to keep from drowning.
And just by the way things are looking right now, I would be aboard a an escape pod the size of the moon if the opportunity presented itself...and there is no immediate emergency...yet.
If the living conditions are right, it wouldn't be a bad option.
When you consider how long ago it was, it is possible...and Collier as far as I know hasn't been filling his pockets with his account, and seems quite sincere.
Absent is the faux sincerity of the people covering up alien activity on the planet.
Regards...
Howdy Y'all,
I have read a lot of Alex Colliers information, I like it. I have also read about the same topics from other sources. Several times I have read about moons and planets converted to ships. Seems like that would be a gigantic undertaking. Nibiru is supposed to be a ship...
Blessed Be Brothers...
"Several times I have read about moons and planets converted to ships. Seems like that would be a gigantic undertaking. "
Don't forget, we are in the newest part of creation...and there are reports of the presence of giants on the planet...smart giants can do a lot. :)
And who knows where we are located on the size scale...we pretty much know how we measure up on the intellectual chart.
I also suspect that matter is easily altered in mass and structure as demontrrated by Leedskalin and Hutchinson...whether by technology or thought.
And since we all know nothing is impossible...then anything is.
Does that sound possible ? :)
Regards...
Howdy Y'all,
Tomorrow is 08/08/08, Galactic Freedom Day!
Join the movement to release all information about alien contact!
http://www.galacticfreedomday.com/
Blessed Be Brothers...
Now Alex Collier in 2008 conference
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=5491317390185173645&hl=es
Apart from some familiar diamonds, rather disappointing in the sense of no new information.
Not that we really need that, but, but, we like it so much.
And he still has issues, sad to say.
Forgot to bless his computer, too, he did.
Maybe he'll come forward with new info in the years to come, now that he has resumed contact.
Ah well, actually it's up to ourselves, isn't it ?
Bless him, bless you and bless me, too.
(Oh, and bless the telecom salesguy who tricked us into an undesired contract.
Felt like Basil Fawlty dealing with that, bless him, too, JC)
the entire universe is made of light and sound.
exactly like a hologram in star trek.
since the universe is just a hologram, ANYTHING in it can be altered.
if you know how to manipulate the rules, inhibit the rules, or flat out change the rules.
the universe is a training ground.
designed to teach us all how to create and manage our own universes.
there is no virtue, in thinking to the contrary.
if you do, you will go nowhere in life. for as many lifetimes as it takes you, to accept that.
Anyone here joined in Galactic Freedom Day Focusing ?
As for Collier's talk, I realized that one point he brought up, I wasn't aware of. That ETs had given up on our governments and that those who are in bed with them (possibly literally LOL), you don't want anything have to do with.
the positive parts of the society we have been developing for the last few decades, are similar to what pleiadians have had, for hundreds of thousands of years.
the pleidians have played a huge part, in giving us the societal developments since the 1950's.
the society that we had before the 1950's, was similar to what the reptilians have had, for hundreds of millions of years!
the old society sucked. and when ever i observe the behavior and philosophies of some 80 year old fossile who was formed by those decades, i cringe.
Do a search on "John Lenard Walson"
example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y_PCEo9c04
(it appears to be a hoax, so n/m)
THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OVERUNITY!!! Go talk about this tin foil hat crap elsewhere - these kind of subjects detract from the credibility of overunity research when they are on such websites!
Howdy Protien_Man,
Yeah, the alien ships have everything to do with overunity. Those ships are powered by radiant free energy generators which also just happen to produce antigravity effects. Those alien ships are the future of energy production here on Earth. Tin foil hats are cool, mine is a baseball cap...
Blessed Be Brothers...
Quote from: protein_man on August 09, 2008, 08:11:02 AM
THIS HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH OVERUNITY!!! Go talk about this tin foil hat crap elsewhere - these kind of subjects detract from the credibility of overunity research when they are on such websites!
LOL
Not only this;
What have you added to the credibility of OU research?
And it has everything to do with _this_ topic, if it was no hoax.