9/11: Distinguishing The Propaganda From The Smoking Guns
By CB_Brooklyn
September 2008
(mirrored on checktheevidence.com (http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=60))
Seven years and the media still lies about 9/11. Disgraceful, isn’t it? A million leaflets, dozens of films, but continued silence. Why is this happening? Why hasn’t the truth movement’s work broken through the media’s lies? The answer relates to the material the â€Ã...“truth movementâ€Ã, promotes.
Vladimir Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." A look through the â€Ã...“Global Analysis - International Intelligenceâ€Ã, archives (http://worldreports.org/news) reveal many comparisons between Lenin and Bush.
Those in control of the world have top-secret exotic technologies. These technologies could replace oil and gas, but instead have been weaponized. 9/11 was orchestrated with these technologies. They plan a police state culture and don’t mind if a limited number of people are exposed to the 9/11 propaganda, as long as the advanced technologies remain secret. See â€Ã...“The 9/11 Truth Movement, Free Energy Suppression and the Global Elite’s Agendaâ€Ã, (http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=182&Itemid=60) for full information.
Who controls the horizontal? Who controls the vertical? We know the corporate media to be our culture’s main source of news. Unfortunately though, our trustworthy media is completely controlled. Observe the graph below (sourced here (http://www.corporations.org/media)) and note all this happened in just 20 years time. This chart (http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml) details the corporations involved.
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi87.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk126%2FCB_Brooklyn%2FDTPFTSM%2Fmedia-ownership.gif&hash=140d18be2bbb3932d46415e3cac52ccb997ca5dc)
Did you know (http://www.cjr.org/resources) the Washington Post owns Newsweek? Or that the New York Times owns the Boston Globe? Believe it or not, getting the news â€Ã...“changedâ€Ã, to suit one’s preference isn’t that difficult. As this Saudi Prince and Rupert Murdoch know (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47771), all it requires is shares of a news agency and the owner’s phone number!
Not only do the media censor information, they’re a propaganda-promotion tool:
This March 2000 WorldNetDaily (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17437) article gives some info on this. Note this quote: â€Ã...“â€Ã,¦"psyops" (psychological operations) personnel, soldiers and officers, have worked in the CNN headquarters in Atlanta.â€Ã, Why on earth would â€Ã...“PSYOPS soldiersâ€Ã, work at CNN? What possible purpose could they serve?
This April 2006 Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890.html) article concerning the Iraq war reveals something too: â€Ã...“The documents explicitly list the "U.S. Home Audience" as one of the targets of a broader propaganda campaign.â€Ã, Courtesy of the CNN PSYOPS Soldiers??
This June 2008 Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/04/ban-on-iraq-war-propaganda-faces-fight) article details Congress’ attempt to â€Ã...“ban Pentagon propaganda on the Iraq warâ€Ã,Â. What kind of system is this if Congress needs to create a bill to ban propaganda?
Tom Curley, President and CEO of the Associated Press, voiced his opinion: â€Ã...“9/11 attacks harm First Amendmentâ€Ã, (http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/9_11_attacks_harm_First_Amendment_03062008.html).
The perpetrators who orchestrated 9/11 are using these media-propaganda techniques to control the opposition.
The â€Ã...“truth movementâ€Ã, is the opposition.
Let’s start by sorting through some of the planted propaganda. Then we’ll examine the smoking gun evidence of exotic weapons, including a timeline of 9/11 events relevant to the technologies used. Following the timeline are some personal statements about a couple of individuals in the â€Ã...“truth movementâ€Ã,Â. In the final section, we’ll examine two non-9/11 â€Ã...“conspiracy theoriesâ€Ã,Â. These should help open up the mind to exotic weaponry should the reader still consider it science fiction. (Warning: The last section contains potentially upsetting material, and will permanently alter the average person’s perception of reality.)
* Lenin-inspired Propaganda *
Let’s look at four examples of this propaganda and how the media promote it. The reader will note that â€Ã...“prominent figuresâ€Ã, within the â€Ã...“truth movementâ€Ã, who support the propaganda have affiliations with exotic weaponry and the Global Elite. See the â€Ã...“Global Elite Agendaâ€Ã, article (linked above) for a list of people who lost their lives as part of the cover-up.
Continued...
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So Paul McCartney really is dead!? :o
You can't really be serious can you? This is a joke of some kind.....right? IF I really believed this crap, which I don't, I would leave this country in a heartbeat. So, my question is...why are you still here?
Bill PS My main source of news is talk radio. There, I get the facts and real soundbites, not spin and editorializing of the drive-by media. As a graduate of journalism school, I can tell you that not one major "news" source would have passed my first class, journalism 101.
Alaskan magnetometers went BONKERS with every 9/11 "event", including the planes-shaped holes in the towers. HAARP was involved.
No one in New York reported the deafening sound of wide-body commercial airliners hitting the towers at full throttle. In 1999, the Washington Post reported on the military's psychological operation hologram project.
See here for source information for everything in the comment:
9/11: Distinguishing The Propaganda From The Smoking Guns
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=60
So, what are you saying? I am not arguing, I would just really like to know. I don't think the Gov. tells us everything and this is good, for the most part. For example, if it turns out in later years that flight 93 was shot down, I would not call that a cover-up. It was something they had to do given the information they had at the time. Some think this is true, others no. I am trying to keep an open mind and always ask myself what I would have done if I were the President at that time. Can you imagine being the one to give the order to shoot down a passenger jet knowing that if you didn't, it would take out more lives on the ground? This is why I would not ever want to be the President.
I have seen a lot of this stuff before and that is why I asked my original question. I have a friend that says Bush himself planted the explosives that took down the towers. I don't find this credible. I also asked him why, if he really thinks this, is he still in this country. I would like to think I have an open mind. My profession is being a professional investigator. (Private)
I have seen some things you would not believe if I told you. I would love to discuss this but I will not argue. It is kind of like arguing religion. Unless one has died and came back and said.."Man, if you are not a Hindu, you are going to hell." No one really knows the truth. I have no problem with seeking the truth.
What are your thought on flight 93? I am about 50/50 on the published story and the needed shoot down story.
Bill
Bill, I have to say I know very little about Flight 93, but am certain there were no hijackings on 9/11 at all. The whole thing is a lie from beginning to end.
Quote from: CB_Brooklyn's site
There were no plane crashes at any 9/11 site.
What happened to the people who were supposed to be passengers on the flights?
Quote from: CB_Brooklyn's site
See the â€Ã...“9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline for the Mineta-directed energy weapon connection.
Do you subscribe to Dr Judy Wood's theories concerning directed energy weapons? [ETA: After checking you site more carefully, obviously the answer is "yes"] She certainly looks like a kook in
this video. I know truthers accuse Dr Greg Jenkins of setting her up, and of being an NSA shill, but how could she not have been prepared to answer his very obvious and reasonable questions?
ETA2: The way you also mention Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, and the Paul McCartney stuff makes me wonder seriously if your site is a parody. If so, I guess I've been pwned :D
QuoteWhat happened to the people who were supposed to be passengers on the flights?
i saw a video , long ago, the missing planes have been landed, the passenger have been relocated elswhere in the underground basement i think, or elsewhere, they show us the airport where the missing plane has landed
i am not sure, it is possibly in the loose change one or two, someone else may find this, airport agents are in the plot, heu military airport
all those passenger are alive elsewhere
keep an open mind, the truth is a long way to reach, each time you got a shock, take the time to look at some evidences
here an example of the gun they have use against the WTC towers
military helicopters with implosion weapons
Quote from: Drannom on September 12, 2008, 02:19:43 PM
i saw a video , long ago, the missing planes have been landed, the passenger have been relocated elswhere in the underground basement i think, or elsewhere, they show us the airport where the missing plane has landed
i am not sure, it is possibly in the loose change one or two, someone else may find this, airport agents are in the plot, heu military airport
all those passenger are alive elsewhere
Are the relocated passengers in touch with their families and friends? If so, are they all ok with this whole scheme? No one is going to leak the story to the media?
Presumably the people who did the DNA testing to identify remains are also in on the plot.
QuoteAre the relocated passengers in touch with their families and friends?
not at all, they are missing, may be still alive or not...
the Pentagon have not been hit by a plane so the passengers are gone somewhere else , so the people are probably in underground basement against their will...
:(
Quote from: Drannom on September 12, 2008, 07:04:08 PM
not at all, they are missing, may be still alive or not...
the Pentagon have not been hit by a plane so the passengers are gone somewhere else , so the people are probably in underground basement against their will...
:(
I'll repeat a question that was asked earlier by utilitarian, IIRC: Why did the perps then involve airplanes in this operation
at all? Now they have passengers to hold in underground basements in perpetuity.
in the projectcamelot website we know that the governement have build many enormous underground basements for the 2012 doomsday, all the rich will be safe an the ordinary people are forget, no place for us there, as usual we are on our own
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
Quote from: Drannom on September 12, 2008, 07:29:41 PM
in the projectcamelot website we know that the governement have build many enormous underground basements for the 2012 doomsday, all the rich will be safe an the ordinary people are forget, no place for us there, as usual we are on our own
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
So you are saying the airplane passengers are being held in these doomsday basements? What happens when 2012 comes, will the passengers be kicked out and the elites move in? Why are they being kept alive at all for these 11 years? Finally, what was the whole point of 9/11 if doomsday is coming only 11 years later?
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Being open minded now, Who said there were passengers on the planes to begin with? The media? Oh well, it's got to be true then. All the information we have was given us by the media. You kind of have think here.
Quote from: EvilToeKnee on September 12, 2008, 09:08:18 PM
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. Being open minded now, Who said there were passengers on the planes to begin with? The media? Oh well, it's got to be true then. All the information we have was given us by the media. You kind of have think here.
Well, that would solve some problems, but create others. For example, Todd Beamer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Beamer) (the guy who supposedly said "Let's roll"). Did he ever exist? Is he dead now? Or is Lisa Beamer (his alleged wife) just an actor hired by the perps?
Quote from: Drannom on September 12, 2008, 07:29:41 PM
in the projectcamelot website we know that the governement have build many enormous underground basements for the 2012 doomsday, all the rich will be safe an the ordinary people are forget, no place for us there, as usual we are on our own
http://projectcamelot.org/index.html
Do you believe
everything that you see on the Internet? Well, unless it's conventional wisdom and then it must just be lies and propaganda. I don't think I have run across anyone on the web, until I started reading your posts, who seems to base all his knowledge on web sites and youtube videos (none of those lizard videos are faked I guess. All those newscasters and Republicans really are lizards whose true selves come out on camera (unless you go and view the original videos then they just look like normal people)..) I think you said in one thread that what got you started was seeing one of those lizard videos.
You just seem to be a little gullible, to me. Of course what do I know -- they may all really be lizards and the government may have huge basements built to protect themselves. But -- which "government" is it? Is it a Republican Congress, a Democrat President, or is it the career, non-political, career government types who have built all these places?? Or, do they really all work together and just act like they don't when we are looking? Do you know anything about "the government"? I spent 20 years in the Navy intelligence community and the last 18 working for the government is some very unpublicized places/organizations. I have never heard anything about these basements. I hope they aren't leaving me out....
No offense meant -- everyone has their own ideas and thoughts.....
Hello
it's all about the power of the testimony, if you got many people saying the same things then it could be right, not sure, if you got plenty of disinformation on something with plenty of testimony, i put the testimony first
so i am not sure at all, with the mind alone no one can go throught this
there are more then testimony, in fact there are many facts to examine, those facts are often testimony too
but i am not in the logic mental anymore, i am at the level of knowing by intuition if something is true or false
youtube reptilians videos has been very schocking for me, somehow i know it's real
WTC collapsing more rapidly than a steel ball in the air, that is a fact, this fact has been catched by almost 200 cameras, all thos video shows WTC second towers falling more rapidly than the Newton law, it's a fact !!!
i know it will be a great shock for the beginner in this study, i suggest you to listen testimony and look somes facts
i prefer talking with sceptic, cause it's there that we can makes things go forward
yes there are governement over the governement, just hear Richard Hoagland for example and the secret nasa program
But who is providing the testimony? And how do you know what is disinformation? I think everyone should be skeptical about any fantastic claim that anyone makes. And just because a lot of people say something, does not make it true. At one time, when information was slow getting from person to person, that was one thing. Now all that has to happen is for a whacko to PhotoShop a picture, edit a video or create a web site with their amazing story and it is available for the world instantly. You can't just happen across a youtube video and take it got granted that it was not faked. You can't just read someone's testimony and know for sure that they are telling the truth. People are absolutely willing to believe that Jenna Bush is actually a reptile because someone faked a news cast and put it on youtube (go find the original video -- no indication of anything wrong with Ms. Bush). But --- let someone come on this site with a video showing they have created a FE or PM machine and he is ripped 7-ways-to-Sunday because he didn't do a good enough job with lighting, or his filming process, to convince people that he has in fact discovered the Holy Grail. He MUST be faking. But it's easy to believe that "the government" rigged three huge skyscrapers with explosives -- without anyone knowing about it and done precisely enough so it's not obvious when it explodes -- builds some underground caverns to hide the kidnapped survivors from the planes and one and on and on. And that's easier to believe than 20 fanatics hell bent on damaging the Great Satan highjacked 4 planes and crashed them??
For every NASA scientist who claims we are hiding aliens there are hundreds who will say differently. And, because someone is a NASA scientist (or in whatever field you consider to be reliable and authoratative) does not mean he can't have mental problems or just want some attention or has some other agenda.
And so many of these stories are "self-proving". Joe Bob invents a perpetual motion machine that will save the world. Only problem is it really doesn't work. So, he puts up some plausible looking theory (based on 400 year old technology) but no one can replicate it. Oh, well he didn't give you ALL the details because he doesn't want some MIBs to come in and kill him in the night. Then, suddenly he quits posting or writing or putting up videos and it is a FACT that the MIBs did get him and kill/kidnap/brainwash (or whatever else they do will ALL these FE inventors) so no one will have his information/machine. And they do this because the government needs the tax money/big oil won't put up with it/it provides too much freedom for individuals/etc. (fill in your own blanks). But his loyal followers/believers carry on his life's work trying to guess what that information was that he purposefully kept from them that prevents them from replicating a machine to save the world. Or they show you a doctored video/photo of the Twin Towers with some proof of their facts (not even a theory any longer) and swear that every other copy of that video is the one that was doctored....
I don't claim to know everything -- very little actually. But, I don't think a lot of people are necessarily that much 'smarter' than me -- not talking about education or book learning. I have looked at lots of these stories and it seems to me that there are a handful or 'original thinkers' in most of these areas. They are the ones who do the original 'research' or make the initial 'discoveries' and then begin writing about it. Then it spreads from site to site, book to book, being regurgitated with no additional proof -- just more claims.
I would only encourage you to research, not just read. Be skeptical of everything unless it is proven beyond your doubt. I saw the mini-series "V" and enjoyed it but didn't think it was a documentary. Same with Independence Day, etc. And that stuff was done with 'old' technology. Now anyone with a modern home PC and some software can make things that look more real than a movie set with a huge budget. And lots of people have imaginations and can make up fantastic stories. And -- maybe the real conspiracy is the conspiracy theory.... How do you know it not some group of people outside the government who have conspired to make up these things in order to smear the actual government?? Most of these folks have an agenda -- it's best to try and figure out what that is before even trying to figure out if they are lying or faking videos. I don't know -- but I am skeptical of most everything I see no matter who is making the claim....
I guess I'll be proven wrong with that huge spaceship shows up next month.....
hello Mbramble
everything you said can be true as well with a probability of 1% may be
just begin to look at a simple fact
QuoteWTC collapsing more rapidly than a steel ball in the air, that is a fact, this fact has been catched by almost 200 cameras, all thos video shows WTC second towers falling more rapidly than the Newton law, it's a fact !!!
if you go to the 911eyewitness movie ()1.5 hours) you'll probably understand that more than 200 cameras can proove that WTC had break Newton Law
just begin with that most proovable fact, check the falling time, find the distance, and calcul by yourself, then you'll see by yourself !!! yeahhhhh and then you will continu studying for a long time then
i respect those skeptics, i was so astonish at the beginning of my own research
I thought that Newton's Laws didn't apply in this forum. Why only in this instance??
Anyway, if you are really going to study, I hope you are studying all points of view. Here for example:
http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
Thank you
facts are better than point of view according to your point of view, so i show you the main fact, the speed of the collapsing, and you can test it by youself with as videos showing the collapse as you need to verify this fact, i am too busy to begin to study again 911, i am looking at projectcamelot and divinecosmos.com to be aware of the news
mbramble, if you can verify this fact, then many skeptics will change their mind too, so please test this main fact, with the 200 videos of the collapsing
in fact Newton was not perfect
gravity is the result of the super light coming from all around us, many theory on that on the net
mbramble, until you will test the MAIN proovable fact i will not comply to your proposal
WTC falling down more rapidly than an metal bullet, it is not suppose to be
this proof will remain forever, yeahhh
Quote from: Drannom on September 13, 2008, 06:12:38 AM
WTC collapsing more rapidly than a steel ball in the air, that is a fact, this fact has been catched by almost 200 cameras, all thos video shows WTC second towers falling more rapidly than the Newton law, it's a fact !!!
Hi Drannom,
I would also point out a video cameras in the USA has a format called NTSC it shoots 29.97 frames per second, European video cameras use a format called PAL it shoots at 25.00 frames per second. Depending on which format is played on which type of video player a video can appear faster ....... the video time codes are diffrent ........ wasn't BBC News there .....
Regards,
Fuzzy
thank you, it will help
anyway we may have just to count the total time of the collapsing, take many videos, try to find the real time of the collapsing, it has been done in the movie 911eyewitness, and anyone can do it again
if there is some difference, an advise man can find the true collapse time from many videos and find out if the frame/second is ok
Quote from: madsen on September 12, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
I'll repeat a question that was asked earlier by utilitarian, IIRC: Why did the perps then involve airplanes in this operation at all? Now they have passengers to hold in underground basements in perpetuity.
The perps needed "evil terrorists" (from the Middle East, of course) to hijack planes so they could invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
Quote from: CB_Brooklyn on September 13, 2008, 11:14:43 PM
The perps needed "evil terrorists" (from the Middle East, of course) to hijack planes so they could invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
Why did they claim the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Lebanon, and Egypt rather than Afghanistan or Iraq, then?
So, because Bush planted the explosives and/or ordered the towers to be blown up, this caused them to fall faster than the acceleration due to gravity? (9.8 meters/sec/sec) I fail to see the connection here unless you are still going on about some alien "death ray" fired from helicopters. If the aliens wanted to use their "death ray" I figure they would just use their own flying saucers as the delivery device/weapons platform instead of using a helicopter. Seriously, think about what you are saying here. It is one thing to have an idea, or possible explanation for something and quite another to call it a "theory" without scientific experimentation of some kind. And still quite another to call it fact. Then, since Bush is always the culprit here, you actually argue your way in circles from saying he did it, ordered it or, no wait, the aliens did it but Bush made a deal with them, or the aliens gave Bush the technology which is so high tech, he had to use a regular helicopter in broad daylight in front of I don't know how many TV cameras and witnesses. There is no chain of common sense being used with these arguments, yet, you call them your theory. To be a theory, it has to have been vetted and tested and not proven, but proven to be plausible. This idea of yours, I am sorry to say, does none of them. (In my opinion, and I am sure I am not alone)
Just please think it through and at least come up with something that is plausible and also gives us some kind of motive besides "Bush did it." As mbramble said, way too many folks had to be in on it, killed, or stored in underground bunkers, etc.
This is just not plausible.
Trust me, I like way out ideas and thoughts and "what if" scenarios but, they have to have some kind of roots in reality or I find them boring and non-interesting and, in this case, obviously politically motivated.
Bill
Hello Pirate88179
i like your post, you have just to go a step further and test the fact that WTC towers were collapsing more rapidly than the Newton Law with a metal ball from the same high
the governement get aliens technology, helicopters were hiding in the smoke over the towers
you'll have to see the movie 911eyewitness to get the shock of the reality
underground basements are so big, they intend to pursuit the civilisation underground, it's means underground cities with all it suppose to be, many underground cities
i got this from the testimony on projectcamalot
all electronics cameras will give the exact time of the collapsing, every skeptic can then calcul by himself
it means that the governement over the governement had decided to start a world war in the way to stop humanity to be what we are meant to be
see the JFK asking everyone to stop secret society, and be killed 10 days later
Pirate take the time to look at the simple fact, Newton Law has been broken, then terrorists are too cheap to create implosion devices, then it must come from an alien technology
this proof will still remain forever, a proof that what we see is impossible in the normal gravity field
Hi All,
I just gathered myself after watching the "History Channels" 102 Minutes that Changed America / Witness to 9/11: ........."again" .......
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?mini_id=60026
(Quote History Channel)
Discover rarely seen and heard archives that document the 102 minutes between the first attack on the World Trade Center to the collapse of the second tower. This commercial-free special uses unique material from sources ranging from amateur photography and video to FDNY, NYPD, Port Authority and emergency dispatch radio recordings, photography and video. Also seen is footage broadcast outside the US, electronic messages and voicemails and "outtakes" culled from raw network footage. Then, watch interviews with
individuals who provided videos of the events of that day. The interviews with the filmmakers will provide context for the circumstances they were in, why they shot video, what the footage means to them, and where they were on that day.
This is a real deal no monkey business DVD video, showing fire ...... destruction of the buildings ...... faces of ladder # 288 fireman that all died ................. building corner shots buckling ...... eye whitnesses .......... all USA stuff NTSC 29.97 frames per second, 1:41 min long with no added BS.
Available @ history channel -
http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=144630&name=102+Minutes+That+Changed+America+DVD&giftfinder=
OR find it at a P2P torrent site and download it ( purchased DVD is the best quality )
Best Regards,
Fuzzy
here the little video i was talking about from 911 eyewitness
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5560.0/topicseen.html
i believe that video is true, cause it come from someone suppose to work at WTC this day, see the whole movie everywhere on the net, i put it on my own account at youtube
all we need is the total time of collapsing and put it in the Newton gravity law and see that it is falling just too rapidly according with normal gravity
Quote from: Drannom on September 15, 2008, 04:45:05 AM
here the little video i was talking about from 911 eyewitness
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5560.0/topicseen.html
i believe that video is true, cause it come from someone suppose to work at WTC this day, see the whole movie everywhere on the net, i put it on my own account at youtube
Hi Drannom,
I never make any judgements on any "YouTube" quality video, it's a good starting place to seek out a copy from the author or videographer that actually took the video footage. The "YouTube" video quality is so bad especially in long distance shots 1-4 miles from a object, that anything can be something or nothing, and its way to easy to monkey around with the video before its published in a "YouTube" video format.
Do you know who the author or videographer is of this "YouTube" snippit ?
Regards,
Fuzzy