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GREAT WORK RICHARD!!!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/episodes.html

show your support .....

;D

congrats....

i have spoke to Richard  on the fone b4 and he advised me to get a spectrum anyilizer....   ;)

richard was given 1 million  investment :o :o :o

cbc aired tonight 8pm!!!!

ist

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here is his webpage...

http://www.vorktex.ca/

i corrected myself 

Congratulations Richard on your Dragon's Den success!

Assuming Charlie Barbara is a real person, please make him eat his words for saying this:

QuoteI have just finished watching tonights episode and cant believe that Brad invested 1 Million in a technology that is frankly impossible. You cant get more energy out of a system than you put into it as was claimed. Only nuclear fusion can possibly accomplish this and currently scientists have achieved about equal input power to output power. What was claimed by the inventor that the test at the UWO produced 2500 x the energy input is incredible. There is no way according to modern day physics. That really was a big IF that Brad had stipulated. I m really curious to the outcome of this deal.
Sincerely
Charlie Barbara
Ontario Power Generation

Here's hoping you get all the proof you need to collect the promised investment.

tak

It'll be the end of him on this (or any other) forum. From now on, secrecy, I fear.
Paul.

@ Paul-R

Not sure where Charlie Barbara gets his information from but the dragon's name is W. Brett Wilson not Brad for starters (see http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/thedragons.html) for a short bio.

And as far as "It'll be the end of him on this" the deal that was made with Brett Wilson was only for power generation so Richard isn't giving up the rights to the technology :)

The episode hasn't gone online yet but it should be posted soon I hope.

Regards,
Paul

Quote from: Goat on December 09, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
@ Paul-R
Not sure where Charlie Barbara gets his information from but the dragon's name is W. Brett Wilson not Brad for starters (see http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/thedragons.html) for a short bio.

He's done a great job, but how much equity did he give away?
500,000 Canadian $ won't go far - particularly with the cost of
patents across the world, prototypes etc and possibly fees
to other patent holders.

He may attract the attention of unpleasant people, and should
consider, in advance, what he might do if this happens.

I nearly applied to the British version, but since they are so
obsessed with intellectual property, I decided against.
Paul.

Wow,

I'm always amazed at how easy people can be hoodwinked. This guy is obviously a fraud.

He had a battery in a box, and an inverter for output.

Dropping names is cheap and easy, yet he had not one iota of paperwork nor documentation for review. Wouldn't you bring these with you knowing most if not all the judges would be skeptical? He brought nothing.

Check out his website....what a joke!

It's probably just a matter of days before this fraudster is exposed.

.99

@ poynt99 & All

I'm as much a skeptic as anyone else but if it is a scam it will soon be apparent when the CBC does a follow up on the contestants (well maybe a year tops), the truth about the tech will be found out eventually  ;) 

Regards,
Paul

@ All

The video is available at http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html run the Season 3 episode 11 video, Richard's presentation starts at approximately 7:00 minutes into the show.

I sincerely hope that Richard proves his technology worthy to replace the nuclear, coal, gas, or whatever other options we have and start producing power in a clean safe manner.

I'll worry about the gas less generator to run my house on the cheap at wallymart later  ;)

Regards,
Paul
 

Shows like this have a non-disclosure agreement attached, which ends when the episode airs. After that it's fair game.

Considering these were taped months ago (September at the latest), there should be some word on progress by now. But there's not a peep.

And Richard didn't get a deal. He got an offer *IF* he can prove his claims. Wilson has an out, and why hasn't proof been given? Why hasn't the deal been inked?

Because it's a scam, that's why. Because he wants 50% up front by Western Union for a product that can't operate as he claims. Anywhere else on the 'net, that would be called a SCAM.

Why isn't there a plant open yet? He was advertising for staff months ago, yet all those postings disappeared.

Not long ago he was looking for a $60,000,000 investment so he could built a plant to start mass producing these units. Now he wants to build power plants with $1,000,000, but there's currently no mass production, no manufacturing plant, and no employees?

If you call the phone number, you can talk to Richard about this unit. And buy a magnetic fuel saver and a fat people t-shirt, get your computer fixed and talk to a children's book author. That seems real professional. He has a home office for multiple "businesses", a PO Box for a mail drop, and wants untraceable payments. And yet people still don't think it's a scam?

I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't WANT the technology to work. The whole point is to find better methods, isn't it? But then, I'm not an engineer (I'm just married to one)... and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)

Seriously. It's people like this, with their name-dropping and unverifiable claims and evasiveness who give legitimate inventors and entrepreneurs a bad name. And yet people still cheerlead for him.

3 years ago this concept wasn't even a twinkle in his eye. A guy with no degree, no background, no experience in the field decided to jump on the bandwagon when he saw that he could make some money off it in all liklihood. Yet people who've lived their lives working on this for ages have made little advancement. Why is that?

It's not because he's such a great inventor, or an ecological genius. It's because he's a master bullshitter.

A little skepticism is a healthy thing. If he's really what he says he is, and if he has what he says he does, it will simply inspire him to continue. If not, he'll abandon this pipe-dream as fast as he did this forum when people started questioning him. He wants fawning sycophants, not discussion or debate. Isn't it obvious?

Quote from: greengirl on December 12, 2008, 05:12:59 AM
Shows like this have a non-disclosure agreement attached, which ends when the episode airs. After that it's fair game.

Considering these were taped months ago (September at the latest), there should be some word on progress by now. But there's not a peep.

And Richard didn't get a deal. He got an offer *IF* he can prove his claims. Wilson has an out, and why hasn't proof been given? Why hasn't the deal been inked?

Because it's a scam, that's why. Because he wants 50% up front by Western Union for a product that can't operate as he claims. Anywhere else on the 'net, that would be called a SCAM.

Why isn't there a plant open yet? He was advertising for staff months ago, yet all those postings disappeared.

Not long ago he was looking for a $60,000,000 investment so he could built a plant to start mass producing these units. Now he wants to build power plants with $1,000,000, but there's currently no mass production, no manufacturing plant, and no employees?

If you call the phone number, you can talk to Richard about this unit. And buy a magnetic fuel saver and a fat people t-shirt, get your computer fixed and talk to a children's book author. That seems real professional. He has a home office for multiple "businesses", a PO Box for a mail drop, and wants untraceable payments. And yet people still don't think it's a scam?

I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't WANT the technology to work. The whole point is to find better methods, isn't it? But then, I'm not an engineer (I'm just married to one)... and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)

Seriously. It's people like this, with their name-dropping and unverifiable claims and evasiveness who give legitimate inventors and entrepreneurs a bad name. And yet people still cheerlead for him.

3 years ago this concept wasn't even a twinkle in his eye. A guy with no degree, no background, no experience in the field decided to jump on the bandwagon when he saw that he could make some money off it in all liklihood. Yet people who've lived their lives working on this for ages have made little advancement. Why is that?

It's not because he's such a great inventor, or an ecological genius. It's because he's a master bullshitter.

A little skepticism is a healthy thing. If he's really what he says he is, and if he has what he says he does, it will simply inspire him to continue. If not, he'll abandon this pipe-dream as fast as he did this forum when people started questioning him. He wants fawning sycophants, not discussion or debate. Isn't it obvious?

YOU ARE WRONG.... 


I KNOW THIS ....

how cuz i have done many similar things lol  8)

tell me you do not need proof lol..... 

i have melted ss with 12 vdc 1 amp  ;)  today  i caused a mot to smoke .....    ;D

agin do you need PROOF!!!!!! ;D

ist!

Quote from: greengirl on December 12, 2008, 05:12:59 AM
Shows like this have a non-disclosure agreement attached, which ends when the episode airs. After that it's fair game.

Considering these were taped months ago (September at the latest), there should be some word on progress by now. But there's not a peep.

And Richard didn't get a deal. He got an offer *IF* he can prove his claims. Wilson has an out, and why hasn't proof been given? Why hasn't the deal been inked?

Because it's a scam, that's why. Because he wants 50% up front by Western Union for a product that can't operate as he claims. Anywhere else on the 'net, that would be called a SCAM.

Why isn't there a plant open yet? He was advertising for staff months ago, yet all those postings disappeared.

Not long ago he was looking for a $60,000,000 investment so he could built a plant to start mass producing these units. Now he wants to build power plants with $1,000,000, but there's currently no mass production, no manufacturing plant, and no employees?

If you call the phone number, you can talk to Richard about this unit. And buy a magnetic fuel saver and a fat people t-shirt, get your computer fixed and talk to a children's book author. That seems real professional. He has a home office for multiple "businesses", a PO Box for a mail drop, and wants untraceable payments. And yet people still don't think it's a scam?

I don't think there's anyone here who doesn't WANT the technology to work. The whole point is to find better methods, isn't it? But then, I'm not an engineer (I'm just married to one)... and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)

Seriously. It's people like this, with their name-dropping and unverifiable claims and evasiveness who give legitimate inventors and entrepreneurs a bad name. And yet people still cheerlead for him.

3 years ago this concept wasn't even a twinkle in his eye. A guy with no degree, no background, no experience in the field decided to jump on the bandwagon when he saw that he could make some money off it in all liklihood. Yet people who've lived their lives working on this for ages have made little advancement. Why is that?

It's not because he's such a great inventor, or an ecological genius. It's because he's a master bullshitter.

A little skepticism is a healthy thing. If he's really what he says he is, and if he has what he says he does, it will simply inspire him to continue. If not, he'll abandon this pipe-dream as fast as he did this forum when people started questioning him. He wants fawning sycophants, not discussion or debate. Isn't it obvious?

I don't know enough about this fellow to say one way or the other but it does sound as if you have done your research and I have to say I like the way you think.  This does not mean that I agree or disagree with you, but, your thought processes remind me of what I do for a living.

Bill

@Bill,

Ditto.

Brad

Quote from: Goat on December 11, 2008, 10:22:19 PM
@ All

The video is available at http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html run the Season 3 episode 11 video, Richard's presentation starts at approximately 7:00 minutes into the show.

Too bad,
now it says:

Content currently not available...damn...

Did anybody download the videoclip and please can post it on Youtube ?

Would really like to see it.

Many thanks.

@ Stefan:

I got the same thing last night, several times.

Bill

It's probably not availble to folks outside USA.
The site can see which country a web browser originates from.
But the small "shows" is working though.
There is a program that can let you change "country/region" while surfing the web.
I have forgotten the name of the small program, but it would be handy to have in this case.
I might be this little sucker. I'll have to trie it to see for myself.
http://www.hotspotshield.com/

I am in the USA and it said this show is not available.

Bill

Ok, thank for the info.
Btw, don't use the program I thought was going to help shield the country origin.
I tested it. It's no good and your internet connection will become slow and useless.

Dragon's Den is a Canadian Show, and I live in Canada and it works fine for me.
I watched it several times just a few minutes ago.
So maybe it's only available to Canadians. To bad if that's the case.

The show was 50 min. long and I don't know a way to save just a section of it.
His presentation begins about 7:30

Hi All

Sorry about the video link, I wasn't aware that it was blocked to people outside of Canada  :P

I looked around on YouTube as I remembered someone posting Dargon's Den videos and after digging around I found that there was a user there named CBCDragonsDen at http://www.youtube.com/user/CBCDragonsDen that carries the title of Director. 

Not wanting to try and copy the video and posting it in case of copyright laws I sent him the following message:

Hi There;

I'm writing to you in regards to Magnacoaster in Dragon's Den Season Season 3, episode 11.

I belong to a forum on the web concerning alternative energy production at www.overunity.com and there have been ongoing discussions about Richard Willis' invention.  People there are interested in viewing the video  but unfortunately the link to the http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html does not function for people outside Canada.

If you could upload the season 3, episode 11 or just the segment with Richard Willis' pitch it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Gauthier

Hopefully I will hear back from him or see the video uploaded eventually.

Regards,
Paul

well since the show taped in the early weeks of May one has to ask themselves why havent we heard of any progress or factories opening up. I know there is a gag order on such things but its been out a week now and we still have yet to see anything. and what is with the website. do the owners of the site realize that the word vork is a swear word in another language and tex could be taken as a short form of texas,, major oil city there. are they trying to say f*%#@ texas with their product. wow a little in your face I think there. Ive been following this since it began and I have to say there is alot of holes in it. what ever happened to the other people he had contracts with. did he pay them back? they were all mentioned for awhile a year ago and then all of sudden nothing. did they find out that he was a fraud? I would love to hear what those people have to say about this. seems like there has been no progress with the motor in over a year. why has no one snapped this up and why did it take dragons to bring it to the forfront. I am confused by the holes in this project.

Quote from: innovation_station on December 12, 2008, 08:19:47 PM

YOU ARE WRONG.... 


I KNOW THIS ....

how cuz i have done many similar things lol  8)

tell me you do not need proof lol..... 

i have melted ss with 12 vdc 1 amp  ;)  today  i caused a mot to smoke .....    ;D

agin do you need PROOF!!!!!! ;D

ist!

Yes !!

Quote from: Goat on December 13, 2008, 07:33:57 AM
Hi All

Sorry about the video link, I wasn't aware that it was blocked to people outside of Canada  :P

I looked around on YouTube as I remembered someone posting Dargon's Den videos and after digging around I found that there was a user there named CBCDragonsDen at http://www.youtube.com/user/CBCDragonsDen that carries the title of Director. 

Not wanting to try and copy the video and posting it in case of copyright laws I sent him the following message:

Hi There;

I'm writing to you in regards to Magnacoaster in Dragon's Den Season Season 3, episode 11.

I belong to a forum on the web concerning alternative energy production at www.overunity.com and there have been ongoing discussions about Richard Willis' invention.  People there are interested in viewing the video  but unfortunately the link to the http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html does not function for people outside Canada.

If you could upload the season 3, episode 11 or just the segment with Richard Willis' pitch it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Gauthier

Hopefully I will hear back from him or see the video uploaded eventually.

Regards,
Paul

Use a canadian proxy server ;)

Quote from: Goat on December 13, 2008, 07:33:57 AM
Hi All

Sorry about the video link, I wasn't aware that it was blocked to people outside of Canada  :P

I looked around on YouTube as I remembered someone posting Dargon's Den videos and after digging around I found that there was a user there named CBCDragonsDen at http://www.youtube.com/user/CBCDragonsDen that carries the title of Director. 

Not wanting to try and copy the video and posting it in case of copyright laws I sent him the following message:

Hi There;

I'm writing to you in regards to Magnacoaster in Dragon's Den Season Season 3, episode 11.

I belong to a forum on the web concerning alternative energy production at www.overunity.com and there have been ongoing discussions about Richard Willis' invention.  People there are interested in viewing the video  but unfortunately the link to the http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html does not function for people outside Canada.

If you could upload the season 3, episode 11 or just the segment with Richard Willis' pitch it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Paul Gauthier

Hopefully I will hear back from him or see the video uploaded eventually.

Regards,
Paul

Hi,
maybe the ones, who can see this now
please try to save the video this way;
clear your cache of Internet Explorer.
Then browse to the page:
http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/video.html
and play the video from start to end and then
go to your cache directory
at
Extras/Internetoptions/Browser-history/Controls/Showfiles
and look for
an SWF or FLV file and store this to another
directory.

Then please post it here or upload
it to youtube or rapidshare.de
or simular sites.

Many thanks in advance.

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on December 13, 2008, 09:35:52 AM
Use a canadian proxy server ;)

Please let us know one, that works.
Please post IP Address and portnumber.
Many thanks.

This proxy server seems to work now , but only in IE:

72.55.191.6 port 3128


I am currently watching it
and have to wait to minute 7

Okay, now as I have watched it,
Richard just  went in with his case unit on a small waggon
and just powered it up, so some
incandescent bulb lamps lighted up.

But surely there was also a battery being seen
and an inverter.
So it was the same setup as in his youtube videos.

Then he claimed big overunity output before
an investment jury of a few rich investor type men.

Only one believed him and made an option with him.

Richard claimed to be in talks with GE and some
other big companies but wanted to have 50 % of 1 Million Dollars
for the rights to build factories with his technology,
when I have understood this correctly...

Regards, Stefan.

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on December 13, 2008, 09:34:35 AM
Yes !!

FINE SO BE IT !!!   THIS IS MY TECK  YOU ARE WELCOME..... 8)

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)MY IST NEO ZAP! TECK 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
                                       WAKE UP ALREADY

               http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBg-hVTIOM


                       THE INNOVATION STATION TEAM!

Quote from: innovation_station on December 13, 2008, 03:18:34 PM

FINE SO BE IT !!!   THIS IS MY TECK  YOU ARE WELCOME..... 8)

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)MY IST NEO ZAP! TECK 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
                                       WAKE UP ALREADY

               http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBg-hVTIOM


                       THE INNOVATION STATION TEAM!

Incredible, its a spark machine :P

And this would be proof of what exactly ?

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on December 13, 2008, 06:00:10 PM
Incredible, its a spark machine :P

And this would be proof of what exactly ?

hahahaha!!!

are you serious lol lol

i must  laugh

ok here is a test lol i dubble dare you to do this little test lol.... 

touch what is showen in the vid 19vdc 4 amps ....  no problem ....   now touch what is returned lol !!!!   see if it FEELS THE SAME LOL! ;) :D

DO NOT DO THE TEST...  LOL IT WAS A JOKE YOU WILL HATE ME FOR IT IF YOU DO TOUCH IT ... LOL  TRUST ME HERE ......

INSTED PUT A 120VAC BULB ON IT  ;) ;D

ist

This magnocoaster motor deal is rather interesting but... I dunno myself...

I will say while I know IST is no dummy I would sure like to see a way for his rig to be set up for continuous power and have it hooked up to a meter. Maybe solder the piss out of all the magnets and solder a wire in with it ... And meter power then measure the amount of amps as well clamp amp meters are a dime a dozen...

-infringer-

Quote from: innovation_station on December 13, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
hahahaha!!!

are you serious lol lol

i must  laugh

ok here is a test lol i dubble dare you to do this little test lol.... 

touch what is showen in the vid 19vdc 4 amps ....  no problem ....   now touch what is returned lol !!!!   see if it FEELS THE SAME LOL! ;) :D

DO NOT DO THE TEST...  LOL IT WAS A JOKE YOU WILL HATE ME FOR IT IF YOU DO TOUCH IT ... LOL  TRUST ME HERE ......

INSTED PUT A 120VAC BULB ON IT  ;) ;D

ist

I triple dare you to stick your tounge on the shelf in the freezer for 20 seconds.
No free energy there either :P

hehehe

@ Dean:

(Quote from Dean)  "I triple dare you to stick your tounge on the shelf in the freezer for 20 seconds.
No free energy there either Tongue

hehehe"

Dean, I did thith ath you thuggested and now my tongue hath no feelingth in it.

Bill

To get back on track here...LOL 

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 13, 2008, 10:56:38 AM
Okay, now as I have watched it,
Richard just  went in with his case unit on a small waggon
and just powered it up, so some
incandescent bulb lamps lighted up.

But surely there was also a battery being seen
and an inverter.
So it was the same setup as in his youtube videos.

Then he claimed big overunity output before
an investment jury of a few rich investor type men.

Only one believed him and made an option with him.

Richard claimed to be in talks with GE and some
other big companies but wanted to have 50 % of 1 Million Dollars
for the rights to build factories with his technology,
when I have understood this correctly...

Regards, Stefan.

@ hartiberlin...yes I believe you have it mostly right, although I can't speculate on which device he used in the presentation, the deal was "IF" the technology is proven then he gets investment from the deal with the investor.  The point I've been trying to make in my previous posts is that either this technology will pan out or not, eventually the CBC does a follow up in their "Where are they now" section so we'll see if it works or not.   

Regards,
Paul

Actually he asked the investor for 1 million dollars for 50% of the company end that will
build units to go on the grid here in Ontario, to help balance out the grid.

Like I said...

@ hartiberlin...yes I believe you have it mostly right  ;) 

If...and big if here (healthy skepticism)...is if the tech turns out to be workable then that could mean independent power on or off the grid as advertised on the products page at Richard's web site http://www.vorktex.ca/page/235610203 .  I just hope the products are still there if the technology proves to be true.

There's nothing more I'd like than to plug in the 7 KW 4 Output 12 Volts model in my house or in an EV car but I'll wait for independent tested results before spending $ 4200.00 USD on one of these devices.

No offense to anyone especially Richard if it works out in the end.

Regards,
Paul

Can someone from Canada (or someone with more computer skills than I have) please download the part with Richard and post it here or on youtube?

It just didn't work with a proxy server for me....I tried it with several IP addresses (also with Stefans proposal: 72.55.191.6 port 3128) - none worked.

Please!

Thanks

Quote from: Albert Johnson on December 15, 2008, 07:24:53 AM
Can someone from Canada (or someone with more computer skills than I have) please download the part with Richard and post it here or on youtube?

It just didn't work with a proxy server for me....I tried it with several IP addresses (also with Stefans proposal: 72.55.191.6 port 3128) - none worked.

Please!

Thanks

Hi,
I justwatched again the whole show 49 minutes to see,
if the browser will put a temporary Flash Video File *.FLV into the browser
cache, but it did not do this...
Normally you can then go in IE to the temperory Internet Filesfolder
and just copy it to a different location.

But with their method they probably use streaming Flash files which
are only stored for a few kBytes or so in the Flash cache or something like this...
So there was no temporary big file in any of my harddisk from today at this time..

So, as I don´t have much time right now,
maybe someone can take these notes on this page:

http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/recording-media-stream/faq-record-download-capture-save-flash-flv-video-http.htm

and work out a solution.

The trick for me to get to play it at all was,
just to go to the CBC video page without having enabled the proxy and
then it says: Content not available during play.
Then stop the video and enable the posted proxy in Internet Explorer LAN Proxy settings
and then Repress the video button of the first 49 min movie.
Then it played.

But it would be good,if we would have the segment with Richard alone,
cause you don´t want to watch the whole other boring show...

At least I can now not imagine, that Richard would be a fraud.

Would you go up there for a live public audience watching
millions of people and later get that punishment when it does not work ?

I could not imagine anybody doing this, if you would know, that it is a fake...

If it would come out later that it was a fraud your name would always being
associates with the fraud  in the public and that makes no sense to me.
So I really think that Richard is having something there..

Or he does not at all understand the technology himself and measures wrongly...
but I don´t hope this way...

Also his first video with the dead battery, if it was not faked, was pretty impressive...

Regards, Stefan.

As usual the saga continues. We'll have to wait and see how it develops.
I hope it's for real this time but there has just been to many inaccuracies in his reports
at the original thread to support anything but fraud or complete lack of metering skills.
I continue believe there's some wrong here and my guess is just as good as anyone else.

http://www.vorktex.ca/

I can see that he has spared no expense on the promotion site for this ground breaking technology.
The money must be just rolling in through the door for this one .. hehehe ..

Now let me see if I've got this straight.

I invent a technology that, using parts from a hardware store and Radio Shack, allows me to build a unit that will power my house off a dead golf-cart battery, and will fit in a little red wagon.

Then I ask a group of investors for a million bucks for 50 percent of some weird plan to "relieve the Ontario power grid"?

Why, if the device I invented does what I say, does the Ontario power grid, or any power grid for that matter, need to be "relieved"?

And more importantly, how does one stay rich enough to be a "dragon" if one is so gullible that one falls for this kind of silliness?

Fat people may be hard to kidnap, but believe me, if there was any substance to Richard's claims, the MIBs would just go get a bigger truck...

This is on his website >

looking to visit us ?

Due to the fact we are in the middle of putting in the plant we are not allowing visitors at this time.


In the next weeks there will be 2 units going on display !

When we get them up and running we will be giving out the locations

I hope someone from here will visit him soon  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfi9ZpXKOY

Here it is on you tube ..


My 2 cents worth .. he is never going to get the million !!

Cheers,

Dean

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 15, 2008, 09:37:51 AM

The trick for me to get to play it at all was,
just to go to the CBC video page without having enabled the proxy and
then it says: Content not available during play.
Then stop the video and enable the posted proxy in Internet Explorer LAN Proxy settings
and then Repress the video button of the first 49 min movie.
Then it played.

Thanks for the tip, Stefan - it worked!
But it's on Youtube now anyway.

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on December 15, 2008, 11:15:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvfi9ZpXKOY

Here it is on you tube ..

My 2 cents worth .. he is never going to get the million !!

Cheers,

Dean

I don't believe that Richard is a fraudster (why should he go to the show when he "knows" that his device is a "fraud"?) - but only time will tell...

Best regards

@ Dean:

Thanks for finding the link on youtube and posting it.  I was finally able to view it.  All I can say is i agree with Stefan, if this is a hoax/fraud, only an idiot would go on that show, or any show knowing he will be exposed in a short time afterward.
I am hoping he has something but I just don't know.

Bill

Thanks for the video...
After seeing it I must admit I still think he's either completely stupid or
has a very good plan on how to scam them for the money!
My answer is NO WAY!!!!!!
But I silently hope I'm wrong. We all wan't free energy (but not the scam).

What I would like to know is how you make an electromagnetic field "bounce" :) as he describes it.
In the video he says he feeds a signal to a coil wrapped around 6 magnets or 6 magnets wrapped around the coil? Then somehow it "bounces" back on a pickup coil(?) with a higher voltage, current and frequency. You would think if something has to bounce there is going to be energy lost on the rebound.

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 15, 2008, 10:54:59 AM
Now let me see if I've got this straight.

I invent a technology that, using parts from a hardware store and Radio Shack, allows me to build a unit that will power my house off a dead golf-cart battery, and will fit in a little red wagon.

Then I ask a group of investors for a million bucks for 50 percent of some weird plan to "relieve the Ontario power grid"?

Why, if the device I invented does what I say, does the Ontario power grid, or any power grid for that matter, need to be "relieved"?

And more importantly, how does one stay rich enough to be a "dragon" if one is so gullible that one falls for this kind of silliness?

Fat people may be hard to kidnap, but believe me, if there was any substance to Richard's claims, the MIBs would just go get a bigger truck...

Now that is the funniest thing I've heard in a long long time. (well maybe excluding IST's posts)

@TinselKoala

QuoteAnd more importantly, how does one stay rich enough to be a "dragon" if one is so gullible that one falls for this kind of silliness?

Well because these dragons are people who take chances and push their limits and that is why they have succeeded. They have a plan and even if their plan seems impossible to others they know the odds and the angles. This "dragon" will not pay a penny until the device is fully proven to his satisfaction which in itself should tell you something.
I imagine this really irritates the ignorant people who think they know it all---- you know the ones who have never succeeded at anything because they have never bothered to try, LOL.
For the record I have built his setup and recorded 120% efficiency hand pulsing it, LOL, touching the wires together -----you see what happens when you build and research instead of offering nothing but senseless criticism.
Regards
AC

@allcanadian

I'm curious to know how you got the information to replicate his setup?  How long ago did you build it and can you please post some details?

Cheers,
Ben.

allcanadian said:

"For the record I have built his setup and recorded 120% efficiency hand pulsing it, LOL, touching the wires together -----you see what happens when you build and research instead of offering nothing but senseless criticism."

And I say: For the record, if what you say is true and not a measurement error, you should be claiming the various free energy prizes that are available. For the record, I challenge you to prove your statement about 120 per cent efficiency. Surely readers of this thread know what 120 percent efficiency implies. Let's see what happens when you build and research, and let your results be known and criticized by others who may be able to find your errors.
Prove me wrong! Show us your "120 percent efficient" device, whether based on Magnacoaster's work, or not.

well knowing what we already know about this man it is safe to assume that allcanadian is likely a girlfriend or an aquantance of his who comes on here when he feels angered by our comments to put comments to try and prove his point. we applaud your dedication to him whom ever you are but realize this, that one day you too will wake up and smell the coffee.

why waste money on a patent,
when you can hire some creative inventor-artist to build simple, cheap versions of the device?

then start an underground movement, to distribute the device from the bottom up?
through the common men and women of the world.


all you need do is show average joe that this device can reduce his bills.
and how he himself can construct it.


this would best be done using some charismatic individual.
who knows how to win over average people.


free energy technology to the masses, must be a joint effort!
between many different disciplines.

even non-scientific disciplines!
such as the artist.
and the socializer.
and the con man, who knows how to dodge the corrupt authorities.


together, we can defeat the corrupt rich bastards!
who control both government and industry, with an iron fist.
(the very definition, of fascism)

Hasn't anyone atleast done a patent search or something, I still can't find the patent. This forum gets worse by the day.

Broli, I've been searching also. He says patent is pending but I haven't found a patent application on uspto.gov.

I've tried to look for:
Richard Willis
Richard Willis magnet
Richard Willis magnacoaster
Richard Willis magnetic
Richard Willis patent 2006
Richard Willis patent 2007
Richard Willis patent 2008
Richard Willis vorktex power multiplier (the way he has it spelt <-  ;D )
Richard Willis generator
Richard Willis generator patent
Richard Willis patent application

Nothing found yet. Will keep looking.

You are not going to find anything.
A patent is not publicized until it is granted. This is required by the patenting process.
It's kept secrect while the patent process is ongoing, aka patent pending. Elseway they
will not be able to determine how much of the "patent" has been exposed to the public.
It's not possible to apply for a patent if your babble about it's secrets before the application.

And your'e not guaranteed to find it when it's granted either.
Some administrations require payment for you to see a specific patent. It not all public.

Quote from: Ergo on December 17, 2008, 02:30:34 AM
You are not going to find anything.
A patent is not publicized until it is granted. This is required by the patenting process.
It's kept secrect while the patent process is ongoing, aka patent pending. Elseway they
will not be able to determine how much of the "patent" has been exposed to the public.
It's not possible to apply for a patent if your babble about it's secrets before the application.

And your'e not guaranteed to find it when it's granted either.
Some administrations require payment for you to see a specific patent. It not all public.

Not to be overy picky, but your statement is not entirely true.  US Patents are typically published after 18months, even if they are still pending.  There are some exceptions, and in fact an inventor can ask for it to be published sooner (this rarely happens) or attempt to have it delayed (requested but usually denied). 

The USPTO doesn't really "determine" how much an invention has been exposed.  They search publication databases and thats about it.  A smart inventor will keep an invention quiet however, because if later the invention is challenged the disclosures can be used against them to nullify the patent.

You CAN reveal your invention to non-public entities in the interest of developing the business around your patent.  It is smart to use a non-disclosure agreement with any third party you discuss it with.  Disclosures to third parties does not prevent you from getting a patent, but you still have to be careful not to show your invention in a public forum.  That being said, be prepared to pay lawyers if you show to a business person who copies your idea.

jeffc:

Exactly!  And also, as our patent attorney told us years ago, be prepared to defend any and ALL infringements.  If 5 people jump your patent and you can only afford to go after 1 of them (it costs about a million dollars to defend each instance) then the USPO decides that since you did not defend your patent, it is now null and void.  My attorney said that in reality, a great idea will be jumped by hundreds of folks.  No one individual can afford to defend against that so....I think patents are a big waste of time.  His advice was to produce the idea, and make as much use of the head start you have against the competition as you can.

We actually did just that.  5 years later, a division of a major glass and R&D corporation obtained a patent on our product and their lawyers visited my office and told us to cease and desist, but they offered to grant us a license to produce our product and pay a royalty to them. (yea right)  Our attorney gleefully told them that, since we had been making the product and selling it in the open market for 5 years, and were the original inventors of the product, their patent was null and void.  We never heard from them again.

Bill

Awfully quiet on the canadian front now that details have been requested .. non disclosure agreement ?

Is there any words from Dragons Den regarding the testing of Magnacoasters device?

Quote from: Ergo on December 17, 2008, 06:54:54 AM
Is there any words from Dragons Den regarding the testing of Magnacoasters device?

In the video, I think he said that Waterloo University tested the device.  He claimed 2600% overunity output.  It would be a rather large math mistake if it proved not overunity I would think.  Is there any statement from Waterloo University on the test that they made?

Quote from: Liberty on December 17, 2008, 07:17:17 AM
In the video, I think he said that Waterloo University tested the device.  He claimed 2600% overunity output.  It would be a rather large math mistake if it proved not overunity I would think.  Is there any statement from Waterloo University on the test that they made?

http://uwaterloo.ca/facultiesandcolleges/

Would that be the universities optometry department or the pharmacological department ???

Didn't see a physics department noted there .. but hey its a university right :P

His tshirt should read :

"Tis harder to kidnap bullshit artists"

Quote from: dean_mcgowan on December 17, 2008, 07:25:07 AM
http://uwaterloo.ca/facultiesandcolleges/

Would that be the universities optometry department or the pharmacological department ???

Didn't see a physics department noted there .. but hey its a university right :P

Just to be fair:
http://gradcalendar.uwaterloo.ca/default.aspx?groupID=1466
The university does have a PhD. program in physics, as well as ones in Electrical Engineering/Computer science.

Hey, RIchard, why not be more specific? What's the investigator's name, I'll give him (or her) a call and get the real story.

That being said, I still am feeling rather insulted by Richard's presentation. There's no real data, just some improbable claims, and that T-shirt!!

for the record i have had nothing to do with richard willis nor have i ever met him  i have spoke to richard on the fone ....

that is all      i have had for dealings with richard   i wanted to see if he was doing smilar things to what  i have been reserching

case and point is he  does not know of tesla much......  i beleave he actaually did stumble upon this.... as he says he did ...

and he has yet to perfect it  ::)

lol

cya in 10 years.... lol   richard is useing silicon ....   ::)  lol

ist

Hey Guy's

The University of Waterloo in Waterloo Ontario, is probably the best engineering university in Ontario, if not the country. I worked in the engineering department for a company that would hire Co-op students for summer work and we always tried to get a student from Waterloo. Anyone around here that wants to make a living in the engineering field knows that Waterloo is where to be trained. High school students require around an 85% average grade to be accepted into it (depending on which course, some courses require a higher grade).

Phone call to the department secretary at U. of W. :

"Hi there, I'm TinselKoala, maybe you've heard of me, the Evil Skeptic? I'd like to get some more information about the research your department did on behalf of Richard Willis, dba MagnaCoaster. This is in regard to due diligence wrt an investment I'm thinking about making. Could you please refer me to the researcher who did the work for Magnacoaster?"
"What's that? You've been getting calls all week, and you haven't any idea what it's about?"
"I see. I'll try the engineering department, then. Thanks--cheery-bye."

Perhaps I'll make the call this afternoon...

For the DragDen investors, when your tax situation is bigger then your net returns, giving a million dollars for 50% of a corporation is great because if it works, it will return tremendously, and if it does not, the investors will have 1 million dollars of capital in the corporation that when closed will allow them to write it off in tax credits of 50%, or, they can always use the company in another business model to generate enough profit to pay themselves back completely. So they gave a million, but it actually cost them 500,000$. And this capital that they will put in will not be registered under magnacoaster's personal name but in the investors name (lol). So if it fails, Mag loses all and these guys lose 1/2. But they would have paid that much I taxes anyways. But that is only the financial side for investors and does not really worry me.

What worries me is the fact that for anyone to have ONE working OU device would already be a definite one in a million event, as he showed and claimed with his motor/alternator set-ups, then to junk that and make an about face and develop a totally solid state device that is also OU. Typical fraud tactics if you ask me. Just wait, once the heat starts building on him, he will come up with another device. He is asking 50% down payment. That's the money model. Pay half now and wait for life. lol

But what kills me is his "claim" of UofW doing tests and showing the device consumes 18 watts and puts out 50kwatts. What is he talking about? Does he think people are that stupid? So how was the 50kwatts served. 120 volts @ 416 amps, 240 volts @ 208 amps, 460 volts @ 108 amps, 1000 volts at 50 amps, 5000 volts @ 10 amps. How the hell was it served on the output side. Now let me ask this next question. Do you realize that at any of the above servings, the circuits involved just to switch the unit off would be twice as big as his unit. Can you imagine the infrastructure on the output side required. That box and all its wires would have fried a chicken is two seconds flat.

Then the next question to ask is, OK, what was the load. What did you plug into this device to measure 50kwatts output. Let me guess. A fully loaded 76hp electric motor. Yeh sure.

There was nothing there then, there is nothing here now, there will be nothing there tomorrow. This is the slogan he should use for his company. The only thing I can see from this is he is a totally delusional and pathological liar. End of story. Hmmmmmm. No where did I see this before?????????

My most puzzling and last question is, why the hell did I waste 10 minutes writing this? lol
Back to work......the show is over.
Let's make it real.

Best statement ever.....you rule wattsup. ;D

Another things is....2600% on 18W = 468W output, not 50KW
His lie about 18W in and 50KW output should compute to 277777% overunity.
This nails it. He can't count and his numbers are just to crazy.

Quote from: wattsup on December 17, 2008, 12:16:42 PM
Do you realize that at any of the above servings, the circuits involved just to switch the unit off would be twice as big as his unit. Can you imagine the infrastructure on the output side required. That box and all its wires would have fried a chicken is two seconds flat.

I agree with most of what you say but don't let the above make you lean either way.
Controlling power to a load is as simple as controlling the field in the generator.

Example: I've worked with 750kW Kato generators that only required field power of less than 500 watts. Switch the field off and nothing goes to the load. Vary that field and control the voltage, therefore the power, going to that same load. (Residual field magnetism is usually too weak to drive a sizable load. Voltage can drop to zero without field drive. Then you need to flash the field or bump it with a magnet to get it going again.)

About like I see Tesla's electric car. Two carbon contact rods vary grid bias on two of three beam power tetrodes (one is left biased for full output while idling) and the three half-wave rectifiers were there to provide the DC drive voltage from the three phase output of the generator portion.

If the 'motor' in that car was a combination motor-generator (40 inches long? Jeez!) AND that motor portion's field voltage was controlled by these tubes AND the generator portion was configured to avoid the bad aspects of Lenz's law.... Well, lets just leave it there. All Tesla or this guy would need to do is give it an initial spin.

If this guy has something real then it is a repeat find of Tesla's electric jalopy.

I'm waiting for him to disappear completely. Then I'll know he was no fake.

Interesting article:

http://www.financialpost.com/small_business/story.html?id=1076840

@Ergo
Thanks - here is a correction to your calculation.
50,000 watts divided by 18 watts = 2777.77777% OU (OK his 2600 OU is conservative - yahooo). lol

@BEP

Yes, I get what you are saying but he is claiming a net output of 50kw or 76hp output. This is not relative to running a generator that has a field winding that gets excited at XXXX rpm to then produce 50kw output. This is equal to brute force 76hp output on a drive motor.

But, you should develop your ideas on the Tesla car. That sounds very interesting although I must admit it is somewhat above my understanding. There is a thread on it on the recent posts located here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6319.msg144069#msg144069

Oh, I just finished my set-up to wind a @handyguy1 coil to try his setup but non-moving. Can't wait to get it finished tonight. More fun. So many projects.

Quote from: wattsup on December 17, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
@Ergo
Thanks - here is a correction to your calculation.
50,000 watts divided by 18 watts = 2777.77777% OU (OK his 2600 OU is conservative - yahooo). lol

(snip)

50,000 divided by 18 = 2777.8, yes, that's true. But to get to percent from that you need to multiply by another 100.  For example, 50,000 is 100 percent of 50,000, even though 50,000 divided by 50,000 is one.

Don't feel badly, it's a common mistake. But mistake it is.

Quote from: wattsup on December 17, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
@BEP

Yes, I get what you are saying but he is claiming a net output of 50kw or 76hp output.

Actually it comes out to 67hp ( do u have slicksdexia like me?  ;D

Quote
This is not relative to running a generator that has a field winding that gets excited at XXXX rpm to then produce 50kw output. This is equal to brute force 76hp output on a drive motor.

It certainly is IF he is circumventing Lenz.

Quote
But, you should develop your ideas on the Tesla car. That sounds very interesting although I must admit it is somewhat above my understanding.

Thanks for the link. Most folks think that tube box was some kind of magic. I had a discussion with some of those types in the past. Waste of time. They need to understand what was under the hood and stop worrying about what was in the dashboard.

My point is: I think this guy may actually have something. Don't sweep him under the rug for being a renegade. Most of the folks researching this stuff are exactly that. Hell, I have one rug that is my favorite  :D

I'll not dump on him just yet. If he is doing what I think then, yes. It is very possible there is no BS in his statements.

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 17, 2008, 09:54:41 AM
Phone call to the department secretary at U. of W. :

"Hi there, I'm TinselKoala, maybe you've heard of me, the Evil Skeptic? I'd like to get some more information about the research your department did on behalf of Richard Willis, dba MagnaCoaster. This is in regard to due diligence wrt an investment I'm thinking about making. Could you please refer me to the researcher who did the work for Magnacoaster?"
"What's that? You've been getting calls all week, and you haven't any idea what it's about?"
"I see. I'll try the engineering department, then. Thanks--cheery-bye."

Perhaps I'll make the call this afternoon...

To whom did you speak ( please post names) and what did they say ?

Please people, especially the skeptics, don´t post here as if Richard would be a convicted fraud.
Otherwise  I will delete your postings.

Regards, Stefan. ( admin)

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 17, 2008, 06:11:41 PM
To whom did you speak ( please post names) and what did they say ?

Please people, especially the skeptics, don´t post here as if Richard would be a convicted fraud.
Otherwise  I will delete your postings.

Regards, Stefan. ( admin)

Perhaps.
If I knew some names, like for example if Richard would tell us some names, I would indeed make the call.
However, I do have some inquiries under way with "people who know people" in Engineering and Physics at U. of Waterloo. So we shall see if I can find out anything.

Meanwhile, I agree with Stefan, and I apologize if I seemed to accuse Richard of being a convicted fraud. It's too soon for that.

But seriously, Stefan, it sounds like you might need to change the batteries in your BS detector.

@ TinselKoala @ Albert Johnson has posted relevant information with names of people who are doing tests on the device. Have you had a chance to look at this information yet?

Quote from: Albert Johnson on December 17, 2008, 03:19:05 PM
Interesting article:

http://www.financialpost.com/small_business/story.html?id=1076840

Maybe they will thoroughly investigate this device and prove it true or false.

Regards,
Paul 

Reminder...The deal in the television show with Brett was "IF" the technology proves to be viable in generating power to the grid then Richard gets the deal.

Who is paying for the tests? 
Who are the people performing the tests?
Can the results be trusted?
Will we see more power out than in?

These questions need to be answered before Richard see's "Dime One" of Brett's investment.

I'm just waiting for the answer, is it True or False  ???

Regards,
Paul

Quote from: Goat on December 17, 2008, 11:50:42 PM
@ TinselKoala @ Albert Johnson has posted relevant information with names of people who are doing tests on the device. Have you had a chance to look at this information yet?

Maybe they will thoroughly investigate this device and prove it true or false.

Regards,
Paul 

I look now, I see a lot of names like Tesla, Willis, Faraday, etc. but the only thing I see relevant to the testing issue is this:

"However, Mr. Wilson has had difficulty matching schedules with Mr. Willis and a few University of Saskatchewan PhD students who will help test the energy multiplier. As a result, there is no deal yet. And there won't be, Mr. Wilson says, until he's satisfied the device works."

So I just have to wonder, why not go back to U. of Waterloo? It's in the same province, practically local, and Saskatchewan is kind of a long way away...

@TinselKoala

"a few University of Saskatchewan PhD students who will help test the energy multiplier."

That should be all we need, whether the results come from an Ontario or Saskatchewan University all that matters is "Dime One" from the investor if it proves to be correct.

I'm still waiting for the answer, no disregard to believers or non-believers alike.

Regards,
Paul

Sure, mee too.
I'd say more but I'm not allowed.

@TinselKoala

"I'd say more but I'm not allowed"

Please let us know when you do find out how this device works, when you're allowed.

Regards,
Paul

Quote from: wattsup on December 17, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
@Ergo
Thanks - here is a correction to your calculation.
50,000 watts divided by 18 watts = 2777.77777% OU (OK his 2600 OU is conservative - yahooo). lol

Sorry, but I'm right and your are wrong. And so is Magnacoaster.....LOL
You have to multiply your number by 100 to get the percentage.

I don't think a university will be testing this unit. If Bret Wilson has shares of a power company, I am sure he already has some people lined up to test it. We will just have to wait and see. I hope it's true but..........

Stefan I have to say that the skeptics really are ruining your forum. It has become less about "how certain thing can work" and more about "how things never will work".

At energetic at least rickoff provided some useful information that might pretty much explain the tech behind it.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3382-unexpected-magnacoaster.html#post38707

Of course the sceptics will thrive when Richard shouts 2600% overunity from a very unlikely device that
suddenly shifts apperance from a motor-generator based design into a static non-moving device....!!!!!??
It's just like saying that I have a magnetic wankel motor (sprain device) that delivers 5000W output and then
a month after that I anounce having redesigned the rotary wankel into solid state mode without any explanation
whatsoever on how that was performed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! R&D just doesn't work like that in real life.
When Richard was going to explain any of the technical questions he was babbling his own imaginary
compositions that was missing all logic or continuum. Nothing he ever said made any sense at all.

[Admin: The last sentence was deleted, as we don´t know yet the accuracy of this  statement]

Quote from: broli on December 18, 2008, 10:32:50 AM
Stefan I have to say that the skeptics really are ruining your forum. It has become less about "how certain thing can work" and more about "how things never will work".

At energetic at least rickoff provided some useful information that might pretty much explain the tech behind it.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3382-unexpected-magnacoaster.html#post38707

@Broli

I agree about the skeptics statement and also your statement that "rickoff provided some useful information that might pretty much explain the tech behind it".

But I think that boguslaw at energeticforum actually makes the more relevant post of "how certain thing can work" by making a comparison to  the Hilden-Brand electro magnetic valve with a link to http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Hilden-Brand_Electromagnet_Motor . 

I find his comparison very relevant to Richard's device, perhaps by using a method similar to the Hilden-Brand electro magnetic valve to switch the neo magnet's flux on and off to induce a current in the coils there is a method that would seem logical don't you think?

Regards,
Paul

Also using a solid state method is very possible. Look at the MEG for instance. All you have to do is have an active imagination to come up with a smart way to redirect the flux paths.

Yes, we Evil Skeptics sure ruin everything, don't we. But it's sooo easy when we are given all this ammunition:

"Vorktex Home Unit 12 KW             $ 15,000.00 USD

looking for the latest in home power units this is the first from Magnacoaster. The 12 KW offgrid unit will allow you to have power 24 hours a day without the hydro company and all the charges thet tend to add on your bill every month. this unit needs to be hooked into the fuse box and we recomend a electrician to do this as power can kill. Comes with 14 KW Vorktex head and the new Aims 12 KW inverter. 

Looking to place a order ?
We plan to cut out the middle man we have gone with online sales only.
We accept  Bank Wire, Western Union and Cash only.
50 % down with order and the balance is due before unit is shippped. "

AND

"We offer a 30 day money back guarantee from date of purchase.
The unit must be deemed in good working order by our staff before the return will be processed.
Any unit that was damaged from improper installation will not be accepted as a return unless there has been a repair made on the unit to replace any and all parts that may be damaged. Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair.  "

From the Vorktex website.

So, if you want to return a defective unit, it must be deemed in good working order by Richard's staff before you can return it. So, if it didn't work when you got it, you have to fix it and make it work before you can return it.

I wonder how many units he's sold under these conditions, and where they are located.

Wait--the answer is coming to me---I think I've got it....

--ZERO--.

Broli, on the energetic forum when Richard states he is bending the lines of flux then the idea of bounce makes sense if the flux lines bounce back. It made me think of this device http://www.google.com/patents?id=_jCYAAAAEBAJ which has a similar concept.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magnetic_Power_Inc

To bend flux lines you need an electromagnet.
No electromagnet exist or can be made in such a way to bend any permanent magnet
fluxlines without spending more energy than what is gained.
I have designed and tested several configurations. But it all comes down to amp-turns.
And copper wire have to high losses to even come close to any high efficiency levels
when creating flux from high amp-turns. To match the flux lines from a neodymium magnet
you need to make the electromagnet suerconducting. And this takes even more energy.
The flux from a N35 neo is comparable to an EM winded and run at 11000 amp-turns/cm.
The best possible electromagnet you can make and run aircooled only reaches 1000 amp-turns.
Using watercooling it's possible to reach 3000 amps-turns/cm but it will take approx 700 watts
to reach 3000 amps-turns due to the resistive losses. And this is still far away from the
neodymium flux field strenght at 11000 AT/cm. Forcing an EM to 11000 AT/cm takes 10000W.
Bending flux lines must be something he just made up and threw to the information hungry crowd.

Quote from: Honk on December 19, 2008, 01:10:08 AM
To bend flux lines you need an electromagnet.
No electromagnet exist or can be made in such a way to bend any permanent magnet
fluxlines without spending more energy than what is gained.
I have designed and tested several configurations. But it all comes down to amp-turns.
And copper wire have to high losses to even come close to any high efficiency levels
when creating flux from high amp-turns. To match the flux lines from a neodymium magnet
you need to make the electromagnet suerconducting. And this takes even more energy.
The flux from a N35 neo is comparable to an EM winded and run at 11000 amp-turns/cm.
The best possible electromagnet you can make and run aircooled only reaches 1000 amp-turns.
Using watercooling it's possible to reach 3000 amps-turns/cm but it will take approx 700 watts
to reach 3000 amps-turns due to the resistive losses. And this is still far away from the
neodymium flux field strenght at 11000 AT/cm. Forcing an EM to 11000 AT/cm takes 10000W.
Bending flux lines must be something he just made up and threw to the information hungry crowd.

Wow. Seriously dude what's your agenda on this forum. It's certainly not to inform people...more like disinform them. Because you either know squat what you're talking about or your deliberately trying to offtrack people with your blatant lies...are you paid to do this? I'm not going to show you material that proves you wrong because that's not what you're here for. All I want to say is that you're fooling no one, the real veterans are seeing through your blatant crap spreading.

Quote from: Honk on December 19, 2008, 01:10:08 AM
To bend flux lines you need an electromagnet.
No electromagnet exist or can be made in such a way to bend any permanent magnet
fluxlines without spending more energy than what is gained.
I have designed and tested several configurations. But it all comes down to amp-turns.
And copper wire have to high losses to even come close to any high efficiency levels
when creating flux from high amp-turns. To match the flux lines from a neodymium magnet
you need to make the electromagnet suerconducting. And this takes even more energy.
The flux from a N35 neo is comparable to an EM winded and run at 11000 amp-turns/cm.
The best possible electromagnet you can make and run aircooled only reaches 1000 amp-turns.
Using watercooling it's possible to reach 3000 amps-turns/cm but it will take approx 700 watts
to reach 3000 amps-turns due to the resistive losses. And this is still far away from the
neodymium flux field strenght at 11000 AT/cm. Forcing an EM to 11000 AT/cm takes 10000W.
Bending flux lines must be something he just made up and threw to the information hungry crowd.

Well,
Honk your statement must be read this way, that YOU YOURSELF did not find
a way to do it.

But what for instance when using the Hilden-Brandt magnet valve.
What does happen if one use this device for a transformer ?

Can it go overunity in the dynamic case by being pulsed  ?

And the output currents would
only  be allowed to flow via diodes when the exciter field was already switched off.
This way there would be no drag back.

Think about it.

Will this be then an overunity transformer ?

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 19, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
But what for instance when using the Hilden-Brandt magnet valve.
What does happen if one use this device for a transformer ?

No, it won't increase performance because the flux lines does not want to leave the surface
like it does from a neo magnet. It has to do with the magnetic alignment of the electrons
when not being super cooled. This is why a solenoid electromagnet doesn't reach any high
flux fields at the faces, even at high amp-turns. Most flux return through the core and pass
easily through the windings along the sides of the EM.
This not the case when using super cooling. The will affect the molecular structure and prevent
flux lines to pass out through the windings. It is forced out from on the end faces.
This doesn't matter whether you use a hilden-brand type of valve or just a regular solenoid.
The flux won't stretch out like it does from a neodymium magnet.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 19, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
Can it go overunity in the dynamic case by being pulsed  ?

Pulsing won't help. You can only "bend" while active and this requires energy, a lot of it.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 19, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
And the output currents would only be allowed to flow via diodes when the exciter field
was already switched off. This way there would be no drag back.
Think about it.

Ok, If the investigation show proof, not words of proof, I mean duplicable proof, then I'll reconsider.

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 19, 2008, 06:21:53 AM
Will this be then an overunity transformer ?

I have a hard time accepting the idea of an overunity transformer due to the fact of B/H losses.
Inserting a magnet into a magnetic loop will only deteriorate performance. I have tried out several Hilden
and Flynn transformers a while back but it had always worse efficiency than a plain transformer.
Some investigation told me why. Simply B/H.

What happens if you pulse a coil such as in this picture?  If you pulse in attraction to the magnets, will the Lenz magnetic field collapse cause a disruption in the magnet flux flow to cause a change in magnetic field in the output coil to generate power output?  Or would it take a repulse input to the small coil?

Quote from: broli on December 19, 2008, 06:20:56 AM
Wow. Seriously dude what's your agenda on this forum. It's certainly not to inform people...more like disinform them.
Because you either know squat what you're talking about or your deliberately trying to offtrack people with your blatant lies...are you paid to do this?
I'm not going to show you material that proves you wrong because that's not what you're here for.
All I want to say is that you're fooling no one, the real veterans are seeing through your blatant crap spreading.

I'm not here to debate or to misinform you. If you knew my story you should know that I'm involved
in a very big and extensive overunity project myself. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3456.0
I have gained lot's of experience of making electromagnets and there is no secret way to make them.
It all comes down to amp-turns. And it takes very much power to generate external fields that stretch out.
Using high permeability materials mostly affect closed loop systems with no airgaps. As soon as the EM is an
regular two faced solenoid it will increase the necessary power levels by many times in order to reach a certain field.
This is due to the very large introduced airgap between poles into the magnetic circuit. I'm not here to discourage you.
I'm just telling you what I have found out while developing my own OU motor. I really hope we find the grail, no matter
whether it is Richards device or some other machine. And I want it to be open sourced and replicable by anyone.
My comment was just about how solenoids work and how weakly they affect any nearby fields.

Btw, I never said anything about Richards machine being a fake. I just mentioned the electromagnets not being the key.
There could be other "secrets" he's not going to tell anyone. Tell to much and any smart guy will figure it out.

Quote from: Liberty on December 19, 2008, 07:41:03 AM
What happens if you pulse a coil such as in this picture?  If you pulse in attraction to the magnets, will the Lenz magnetic field collapse cause a disruption in the magnet flux flow to cause a change in magnetic field in the output coil to generate power output?  Or would it take a repulse input to the small coil?

Hi Liberty,

Good questions.  I think the pulsed field collapse will cause a disruption in the (mainly) homogen pm flux flow and there will be induction in the output coil. 
Is this a sudden idea or you managed to test it already, I wonder.

rgds,  Gyula

If you're a truely honest person Honk then I apologize for my out lash. But I don't think you're on the same boat here. There's enough proof done online that shows that the magnetic flux prefers the path of least resistance like electric current. You won't need kilo amperes  ::) as you suggested. A watch battery can even achieve this as you can see here for example...

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nlspw1HY-w
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aUxQHkkRSoc

So I don't know what you're thinking but you can severely distort the path of the flux with a tiny impulse of current. The same person in the video has showed OU btw.

Quote from: broli on December 19, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nlspw1HY-w
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aUxQHkkRSoc
You can severely distort the path of the flux with a tiny impulse of current. The same person in the video has showed OU btw.

Yes you are right but only in static mode. When introducing repetitions it will face B/H losses and the inductance demands more
power to switch flux path as frequency increases. I hope I'm wrong in this but I have not yet seen any OU effect from a magnet
boosted transformer, and I've seen a few. Btw, the videos does not show OU. There is only static force and no work is being performed. 
You should know that Energy = Force times Distance. No Movement = No Energy, no matter how much weight the setup can carry.

Quote from: Honk on December 19, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
Yes you are right but only in static mode. When introducing repetitions it will face B/H losses and the inductance demands more
power to switch flux path as frequency increases. I hope I'm wrong in this but so I have not seen any OU effect from a magnet
boosted transformer setup. Btw, the videos does not show OU. There is only static force and no work is being performed. 
You should know that Energy = Force times Distance. No Movement = No Energy, no matter how much weight the setup can carry.

I said the same person in the video, not the same video that, shows overunity. Check out his other videos. And yes there will always be loses like that. But what you claimed earlier was far more outrageous then a some iron losses which could even be reduced significantly if the proper research is done.

Quote from: broli on December 19, 2008, 10:07:17 AM
I said the same person in the video, not the same video that, shows overunity. Check out his other videos. And yes there will always be loses like that. But what you claimed earlier was far more outrageous then a some iron losses which could even be reduced significantly if the proper research is done.

I agree, it is completely possible to build good motors using the valve or flynn device but there is still no hard proof on OU of any kind, just words and beliefs.
Iv'e checked out his other videos but there is no evidence on OU. And the videos are simply so badly made that you really can't tell what's is going on except
speeding motors and their input. He is showing no self runners or proven COP:s. I'm finished debating this, let's return to Richards device.

I have no idea if this will work but after reading some more, this is what I came up with on modifying the flux path using external magnets. The input coil is driven with a sine wave source which cause the poles 1 & 2 to be alternate between N/S. But there are magnets which pull/push the flux field as the poles alternate. So if pole one is going north it will be repelled by the top magnet but attracted to the south magnet causing a bounce, same goes for pole 2. The dark green arms that hold the magnet is mounted to a flexible rod. I may have the magnets all wrong maybe they should be perfectly centered to the side of the poles so it swings up and down next to the output coil(last pic).

Quote from: gyulasun on December 19, 2008, 08:38:01 AM
Hi Liberty,

Good questions.  I think the pulsed field collapse will cause a disruption in the (mainly) homogen pm flux flow and there will be induction in the output coil. 
Is this a sudden idea or you managed to test it already, I wonder.

rgds,  Gyula

I would say that it is from an idea that I have been considering.  I was thinking what Magnacoaster might be doing with one coil, but then thought of this way using two coils.  I was thinking about this setup (and how it might function better) but I have not tried it yet.  I think it might be interesting to try out.  Maybe 8-12 watts pulsed would be enough to run it?  Just have to see if coil output is more than input.  A thick metal bracket should also connect the open ends of the magnets together to complete the flux path.

Quote from: Liberty on December 19, 2008, 04:04:10 PM
I would say that it is from an idea that I have been considering.  I was thinking what Magnacoaster might be doing with one coil, but then thought of this way using two coils.  I was thinking about this setup (and how it might function better) but I have not tried it yet.  I think it might be interesting to try out.  Maybe 8-12 watts pulsed would be enough to run it?  Just have to see if coil output is more than input.  A thick metal bracket should also connect the open ends of the magnets together to complete the flux path.

Well, the 8-10 W pulsed input surely will already cause flux disturbance inside the field, (it is good if the input power is controllable.)  I do not think any core other than air core for all the coils would be needed, though the effect would be probably more pronounced, the mutual coupling, hence input appearing in the output,  would also crop up stronger.
Yes, a yoke of correct cross section coupling together the outside of the now not used magnet poles would also serve for impovement.  Flat (pancake-like) coils especially for the input coils are good candidates for a test.

Very interesting setup!

rgds,  Gyula

I watched the Dragons Den video, Richard is missing his meds or is delusional . As for Brett he's smart enough to say "If this technology works you've got a deal". He'll never spend a dime of that on Richard's company.

From Richards site...

QuoteIn 2008 Richard was able to produce power in a small format with no movment 12 Volts @ 1 amp input and outputs of 12 â€" 24 â€" 48 Volts @ 100 Amps with 4 â€" 8 â€" 12 outputs.57 KW of power from a 12 volt 1 amp feed. This has never been done before. The world again has changed and now local grid power can be made anywhere!   

Bull, why not just hook the output back to the input? Makes no sense.

Why do people buy into this sillyness?

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3365-another-lutec.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3365-another-lutec.html)

Also from Richard's site:

"We offer a 30 day money back guarantee from date of purchase.

The unit must be deemed in good working order by our staff before the return will be processed.

Any unit that was damaged from improper installation will not be accepted as a return unless there has been a repair made on the unit to replace any and all parts that may be damaged. Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair.

1 year guarantee against manufacturer defects Vorktex power unit.

This does not cover units that have been changed or modified. We are not responsible for units that are damaged due to improper hookup. We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper hookup. We are not liable for any damage to batteries or inverters due to improper sized units and batteries. We are not liable for any damage in shipping.  We are not liable for any loss due to loss of power or operation of the unit. Tampering and or altering the unit in any way void’s the guarantee. Buyer to pay any and all shipping and or duty charges back to our plant of any unit in need of repair. "

So, if it doesn't work when you get it, you have to ask for approval before you can return it, and in addition, you have to fix it so it does work, before the return will be approved so you can get your money back.

I wish I'd thought of that.

For $15,000US I'd want to see the unit working before I gave them a dime. Cambridge Ontario is only a 45minute drive from my place.

Sure, you can see one anytime.

Just call ahead to make sure there's no schedule conflict.

What's that? This week? Well, the holidays, and all...you know....

Next week? New year's, visit to the cottage, sorry...How about early February? Call in late January and we'll see what we can arrange...

Want to bet that it will be extremely difficult to arrange for a site visit and demo?

Just some food for thought.  If this guy was in the US I could do it, someone needs to get a PI in Canada to get a copy of this guy's electric bill.  This would tell all.  First, if he even HAS an electric bill, that would say something.  If I had all these devices just sitting around waiting to sell, surely I would hook one or two of them to my own home and have no electric bill, or a minus bill where they owe me.....right?  As I said, just an idea.

Bill

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 23, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
Just some food for thought.  If this guy was in the US I could do it, someone needs to get a PI in Canada to get a copy of this guy's electric bill.  This would tell all.  First, if he even HAS an electric bill, that would say something.  If I had all these devices just sitting around waiting to sell, surely I would hook one or two of them to my own home and have no electric bill, or a minus bill where they owe me.....right?  As I said, just an idea.

Bill

Now there's a good idea. Richard was after all demonstrating a "working" unit that he "accidentally" discovered. The video claims 18W in and 50,000W out. Amazing! If you had two you could power a small town.

A little bird told me they contacted the Dragon, Bret Wilson, who offered to fund Richard. Guess what? The dragon reports that no deal has been reached, nor will there be one. Richard couldn't get it together to provide a unit for 3rd party testing, and the various universities didn't confirm his power claims, they just confirmed that he did have some measurement readings and calculations. So the backer backed away before cutting a check--"Extremely suspicious" were the words the little bird used.
Wisely, I think.
The Dragon also said that the program segment was edited beyond recognition, and there were some real questions about Richard and his device, that weren't shown on the program.

Now, who's eating crow?

TBF he probably would eat crow.

It would be nice if the CBC released the full transcript of the episode.

Hmm so deal is off now? An oil man funding a FE claim  ::). But the guy won't go on tv to scam some rich guy and think he'll get away with it. I still think he has a working device, only is his brain filled with Canadian ;D dollar signs.

Just came across this and from their website, a few things that haven't been mentioned but some might have missed.
- He has a YouTube channel at http://www.youtube.com/magnacoastermotors
  (great radio station on the "run on logi cam" video :-))
- There's a Photo Gallery page at http://www.vorktex.ca/page/230944205
- On his Helpers page he mentions overunity.com so he's been here
  http://www.vorktex.ca/page/230898205
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Yep, he's got it all. Plus a pile of those "fat people are in your face" T-shirts, or whatever.

What he doesn't have is a device that will perform as he claims.

Just try to buy one and install it. You only need to pay half up front when you order, and the other half before it's shipped to you. Then, when it arrives and doesn't work, no worries! It's guaranteed. Just get their permission to return it--but you have to return it IN WORKING ORDER to get your money back.

I swear, you couldn't make this stuff up, so it's got to be real.

Doesn't it??

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 09, 2009, 07:09:15 PM
I swear, you couldn't make this stuff up, so it's got to be real.

Doesn't it??

Without more details about his device I couldn't say one way or the other. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on January 10, 2009, 09:51:03 AM
Without more details about his device I couldn't say one way or the other. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Can't you apply strict rules of logical inference, based on the facts you do have, and that are publicly available?
The story is inconsistent in several ways; the claims are in conflict with known science; some of the claims about university testing and contact with Ontario Hydro are, shall we say, grossly inflated; nobody can visit his factory site; the guarantee terms and disclaimers are right out of "Cons and Frauds for Dummies"; and the Dragon turned him down. QED, as far as I can see.

You wait and see. I'll be looking elsewhere.

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 10, 2009, 03:21:24 PM
Can't you apply strict rules of logical inference, based on the facts you do have, and that are publicly available?
The story is inconsistent in several ways; the claims are in conflict with known science; some of the claims about university testing and contact with Ontario Hydro are, shall we say, grossly inflated; nobody can visit his factory site; the guarantee terms and disclaimers are right out of "Cons and Frauds for Dummies"; and the Dragon turned him down. QED, as far as I can see.

You wait and see. I'll be looking elsewhere.

The only facts I consider relevant are details about how his device works and ultimately, getting my hands on one. As there are next to no details available and as having one isn't likely to happen today, it costs nothing to wait.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

I have been following up Richard for a while, I think I found his invention 8 months ago.

At first I thought he really found the invention of the century. I saw some videos that didn't prove anything but I kept believing.

After a month I lost any hope, his videos were proving nothing, he didn't have any scientific testing.

I'm still following up where he goes because I still want his invention to work, but I really don't think it does.

At least it is moving, maybe we will be able to close his case once and for all. I think that in the TV show, it's the first time we can say the unit is not powered by grid, we can see around finally! But there is enough volume in the "Vorktex" unit to store a battery to power the bulbs. So no proof yet.

If CBC follows that and proves it is not working, I want to know!

But going to a TV show tends to prove again he just want to get money from anywhere. I don't know, if his invention works, why he needs money? He just has to make money selling power to the grid.

Anyway I thought it was important to inform you all of the information I have gathered on him.

"I don't know, if his invention works, why he needs money? He just has to make money selling power to the grid."

And continue with that thought:
IF his invention works, then:

(Fill in some blanks)

-The various military agencies will be VERY interested
-The "dragon" would not have let Richard out of his sight
-Richard himself would need bodyguards--the Big Oil assassins, remember?
-He would not be still buying power for his home, lab, etc. from the grid

And so on and so forth.

Since these things, and many others, are not happening, the inference is (or should be) very clear.

" -Richard himself would need bodyguards--the Big Oil assassins, remember? "


Hey...what if he's just laying in the weeds to save his skin...and then he'll pull out the real deal at the end ?

If it were me, I'd leave a dud unit laying around the lab for the spooks to find, and hide the good one in a port-a-potty out back...or some other unpalatable place. :)

Regards...

New video from Richard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5SE9ebJs8

http://news.therecord.com/Business/article/476404

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on January 12, 2009, 04:44:35 PM

If it were me, I'd leave a dud unit laying around the lab for the spooks to find, and hide the good one in a port-a-potty out back...or some other unpalatable place. :)

Nah....  Leave it out in the open with clear and correct labeling. They'll never find it. If they do they'll never figure out how to turn it on. It will be obviously impossible so they'll tear it apart and never get it back together again.

BTW: They grow and breed in the unpalatable places.

Doh!!

You're right...that's their element...how could I have overlooked that ?

And you're right, leaving it in plain sight would probably work. ;D

Or maybe just hook it up to a bicycle. :)

I do hope works as advertised though.

Regards...

Good news indeed. But I rather build it myself then pay such astronomical price for it.

Quote from: broli on January 25, 2009, 08:41:49 AM
Good news indeed. But I rather build it myself then pay such astronomical price for it.

That depends on what your needs are. My last electricity bill said I used 252kWh over 52 days. That's 252/52/24=0.2kW per hour and cost me $46.19CDN (roughly the same amount US.) His current smallest and cheapest unit puts out 4.8kW. So 4.8/0.2=24 times what I need. So that would cover a bill of 24x$46.19=$1108.56 for 52 days. So if your needs are really for 4.8kW all the time then you'd get your money back in around 6 months ($4200 (cheapest unit) / 1108.56 x 52 days / 31 days). After that, your power is free. It's even better if you're in an area that allows you to sell excess power to the grid. Otherwise, wait until he comes out with a smaller unit to suit your needs, I imagine the price will likewise be less.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

wate till you get it home lol

and you find out he used diodes that blow the first time you get a surge ...  maybe a THUNDER STORM LOL

YOU CAN NOT USE DIODES!!!!!!


you will have problems

any one got some money ??  so we can do it right ...   PATTEND MY TRANSFORMER .....   diodes are NOT NEEDED...

IST!

369 ;)

Just got my new bill.

Payoff would be in THREE months.

If I see it proven I'll be buying it. With my current schedule it would take me that long to build it.

However, I am still in the 'wait and see' stage.

I hope the output is compatible with my loads. Even if you have free electricity it still costs a bundle to convert the loads.

Quote
If I see it proven I'll be buying it. With my current schedule it would take me that long to build it.

Only a fool would do this.

Quote

However, I am still in the 'wait and see' stage.

Sage advice, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Quote from: blueroomelectronics on January 25, 2009, 01:16:39 PM
Only a fool would do this.Sage advice, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

If you see a proven device of this type you would not consider buying one?

Keyword: proven, meaning working as advertised without a doubt.

I have many doubts about this thing but if it works as said then I would be a fool to not purchase it. Or, I had no need for it.

A payoff period of under a year is generally a bargain in the business world. Technically at $4200, it would be considered underpriced, so once word hits the street that they work (if they work), expect them to sell out vey quicky. So depending when you buy, you are trading risk of scam against lack of availability. Some choice.  But if $4200 isn't that much money to you, and you want it badly enough, why not?

Of course any overunity device would pay for itself, problem is there are zero actual overunity devices available now or ever. Even the universe is on borrowed time.

Quote from: blueroomelectronics on January 26, 2009, 12:18:03 AM
Of course any overunity device would pay for itself, problem is there are zero actual overunity devices available now or ever.

I'm of the same opinion (though I'd be happy to be wrong.) That's why I think that if this one works, given the few details we have, it would likely be tapping zero point energy. If it's real, I'll buy one.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Quote from: BEP on January 25, 2009, 11:46:28 PM
If you see a proven device of this type you would not consider buying one?

Keyword: proven, meaning working as advertised without a doubt.

I have many doubts about this thing but if it works as said then I would be a fool to not purchase it. Or, I had no need for it.

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on January 26, 2009, 09:00:23 AM
I'm of the same opinion (though I'd be happy to be wrong.) That's why I think that if this one works, given the few details we have, it would likely be tapping zero point energy. If it's real, I'll buy one.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Don't buy it, replicate it.

Quote from: jadaro2600 on February 01, 2009, 06:25:16 PM
Don't buy it, replicate it.

Let's see... Since 2005 I've been trying to replicate the testatika... but not enough info
makes it iffy that I'll ever succeed... now I'm also working on the Hyde generator with only
a patent and a few 2nd hand notes to go on so that'll likely be unsuccessful too...
I think if someone has a device for sale all built and ready to go out the showroom,
I'll just buy it. My goal here is to have the device, not the building of it.  :)
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Quote from: Steven Dufresne on February 01, 2009, 07:20:24 PM
Let's see... Since 2005 I've been trying to replicate the testatika... but not enough info
makes it iffy that I'll ever succeed... now I'm also working on the Hyde generator with only
a patent and a few 2nd hand notes to go on so that'll likely be unsuccessful too...
I think if someone has a device for sale all built and ready to go out the showroom,
I'll just buy it. My goal here is to have the device, not the building of it.  :)
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

SO WHAT IS IT YOU WANT ???

LOL

MY TEAM WILL BE LISTING SMALL DEVICES ON isteam.ca   ;D ;D 8)


WILLIAM

I have to laugh personally at the "assembly line" that he has going from his , what looks to be, kitchen tables. Where is his factory ?? in his bff's garage I suppose. and while I am on the topic of the Vorktex, it looks quite unnatural. it looks like my 5 yr olds scrabook book with all the stickers.  Just a little note if you want something taken seriously present it to the world seriously. dont present it looking like a kindergarteners scrabook project. and as far as financing goes I am well aware that his company has had funding in the past from a very wealthy group of people and he stiffed them when it came down to the crunch time to produce the so called "motor".  he more than likely has his family building these units because they are likely the only people left on the planet that actually believe his pipe dream ,in actuallity  it is ( mr willis ) more likely the rantings of a Schizophreniac with the abiltiy to listen well to smart people and mimic something somewhat intelligent. good luck with that Mr Willis go do your arts and crafts and leave the work upto the real men in the world. and the fat people are harder to kidnap shirts,,, are so yesterday. and from the pictures we see we are all quite aware that you have beaten anorexia no need to announce it on your chubby chest. 

it is too bad some people did not want the real truth when it was given free of charge ..... 

i made a youtube video ....


ist

here is the link.... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpXXvgYrYU

I have emailed this guy and am waiting on any information in regards to my buisness proposal as a Reseller. I will be sending my mediafriends to his door very soon to get some real information. As I am connected with the media I will keep you all in the loop, those of you that have A channel keep an eye out.

           Sypherios,

I am currently involved in the start-up production of these units.

While it is true this idea has taken more time to get off the ground as hoped, progress is being made.  There is a manufacturing company in Georgetown Ontario, that has just started building a couple of these units for more sound testing as prototypes.

That being said, the skepticism is not unjustified.  I myself have a hard time believing that this will work, but there is a knowledgeable group of individuals working on them so hopefully all goes well.

Thanks for the update Tonysf. Good to have you with us. I think most, if not all, of us here are hoping it'll work too.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Thanks Steve.

Like I said, I have my doubts. Right now they do have an order from Essex County and they are currently doing the large commercial prototypes.  They are built inside of shipping containers and the process just seems a little too good to be true.  I believe the commercial models consist of 300+ batteries alone, along with the generator, etc.  Pretty crazy to see, even if it doesn't pan out.

There is also a snag in terms of laws/permits which they are currently trying to 'work around'.  This has inevitably slowed the process down as well.

As for Richard, he's a good guy.  Don't judge a book by his cover.  Clearly he lacks some professionalism, but so have many great thinkers and innovators.

if you refer to the TORONTO STAR saturday february 28 2009 A14 there is an article on electric motor polarizes opinion. this man by the name of Thane Heins has apparently already accomplished what willis is trying to stake claims to now. perhaps he has gained information from this Thane Heins and made his own unit and is trying to sell it out there as his idea .( highly unlikely) if you read this article which im sure you can find online in their archives you will be brought up to speed that this Heins fella is light years ahead of willis and is has also himself been contacted by nasa. im sure willis has no such claims other than he is in talks with GE. sorry mr willis but calling up GE and asking the head manager if he would be interested in a megnetic motor saving him money (which im sure he gets crazy calls all the time and is taught to humor them and then let them go on their merry way) he probably said yes, listened to your rants and then let you go never to give it another thought.  i have but one question. whats the world like in your delusional head? is it fun or empty.

The Aforementioned article from the Toronto Star, February 29, 2009:

QuoteBYLINE: Tyler Hamilton, Toronto Star

Thane Heins, tired and a little grumpy after a long flight from California, walks onto the stage in an Ottawa conference room and begins a sales pitch that usually raises more eyebrows than money.

One of three entrepreneurs chosen this month to present at a "Pitch The Dragons" contest, a spin on the CBC show Dragons' Den, Heins has invented a technology he says will put out more energy than it consumes. His invention, he boldly claims, offers a way to make electric cars that can travel hundreds of kilometres on a small, inexpensive battery.

It's a tough crowd. One of the contest judges is TV-show judge Robert Herjavec, a multi-millionaire who minutes earlier had shared his own story of success and the life it funds - the fancy gas-guzzling cars, the mansion, the luxurious yacht.

The two men are oil and water. Heins, who wants to help the world kick its fossil-fuel addiction, immediately gets Herjavec's back up. The judge is dismissive from the get-go.

"It turned into a shouting match in front of 300 people," Heins later says.

It was just another day for this underdog entrepreneur, a man trying to convince mainstream society he has discovered something real, that has broken a major law of physics.

The Star first profiled Heins and his controversial invention a year ago. In a nutshell, he had figured out a way to eliminate the electromagnetic friction that typically limits the performance of an electrical generator - an effect known as "Back EMF."

Not only that, but he also redirected magnetic energy so that, instead of causing resistance, it gave an electrical motor connected to the generator a significant boost.

The result, as far as Heins was concerned, violated Lenz's Law or what's often called the law of diminishing returns.

In no time, the story spread globally across the Internet, became chatter on blogs and triggered a flood of email to this reporter's inbox - some praising Heins for his determination, others calling the Star irresponsible for giving credibility to his claim. Love it or hate it, it was the second-most read article on TheStar.com in 2008.

Much has happened in 12 months. Heins still operates out of a lab at the University of Ottawa, he continues to evolve his invention, and he routinely demonstrates those improvements in YouTube videos.

"The last video I watched still showed evidence of some fundamental misunderstandings of physics, combined with wishful thinking," said electrical engineer Seanna Watson, a member of Ottawa Skeptics.

Heins demonstrated his technology to the group shortly after the Star's story was published. Two months later, Watson posted a critique titled "In This Town We Obey The Law of Thermodynamics." Yes, she admitted, the motor does speed up without more input power, but increased speed does not mean an increase in mechanical work.

"Heins appears earnest and basically honest, but persistently self-deluded," Watson wrote. "While the speed-up behaviour of the generator currently lacks an established explanation, there is no reason to think that it represents any challenge to currently known laws of physics."

Heins has heard that before: You haven't proved you're right, so you must be wrong. But nobody has proved he's wrong.

Some want to believe, or have kept an inquiring mind. Heins has been contacted by NASA and had several investors, engineers and academics show up for a demonstration. He always obliges.

Last spring, rock legend Neil Young wanted to adapt Heins' invention to power a 1959 Lincoln Continental, to enter the $10-million automotive X Prize - a contest in search of the world's most efficient automobile.

Heins and Young had much dialogue by email and telephone about the rock star's "Linc Volt" project.

The relationship eventually fizzled. Still, in an email to the Star, Young was gracious about Heins' work. "I am impressed ... it is on our list of things to watch."

Day by day, bit by bit, Heins is gaining supporters.

Heins has been in serious talks with a designer of small wind turbines in Montreal, a senior engineer from a large utility in Turkey, and a manufacturer of electrical equipment in Toronto. He has altered the prototype design.

"We can use it to accelerate (the motor shaft) from 100 revolutions per minute to 3,500 without adding an ounce of power," he says.

His most promising partnership is with California Diesel & Power, a $10-million company that sells backup generators for cellphone towers across the state.

Owen Charles, head of technology at California D&P, was intrigued by Heins' demonstration on YouTube last year. He flew to Ottawa for a demonstration and was convinced the technology worked, at least enough to pursue it further.

During a demonstration, the motor used only 75 watts to spin at its full rated capacity, which normally takes 250 watts. "To me, that makes the motor a hell of a lot more efficient," Charles said.

But is it perpetual motion? "It has the potential to be that," Heins said. "But there are many hoops we have to jump through before we get there."

He plans to pay the U.S. Department of Energy's Oak Ridge National Laboratory to evaluate the technology.

But Heins often undermines his own credibility. He's written emails to former U.S. vice-presidents Dick Cheney and Al Gore claiming he's got a way to eliminate global dependence on oil and bring the troops home from Iraq.

Still, all the skepticism could vanish if California D&P makes a more efficient generator. The company has also entered the automotive X Prize with plans, like Neil Young once had, to use Heins' generator.

"Within a month or two months, we should have that generator in a car," said Heins. "All we're going to try to do is run the car in the conventional mode ... then put our generator in and see if we can get more miles out."

If it does what Heins expects, maybe Al Gore will pay attention.

From Feb 4, 2008:

QuoteIt all began back in 1985, when Thane Heins, having studied electronics at California State University, started thinking about how magnets could be used to improve power generators.

But it wasn't until after the 9/11 attacks that he started seriously experimenting in his basement, motivated by the desire to reduce our dependence on oil and the countries that back terrorism.

Heins tinkered away, making what seemed like good progress, until one day in early 2006 he stumbled on to something strange. As part of a test, he had connected the driveshaft of an electric motor to a steel rotor with small round magnets lining its outer edges. The idea was that as the rotor spun, the magnets would pass by a wire coil placed just in front of them to generate electrical energy - in other words, it would operate like a simple generator.

The voltage was there, but to get current he had to attach an electrical load to the coil - like a light bulb - or simply overload it, which would cause it to slow down and eventually stop. Heins did the latter, but instead of stopping, the rotor started to rapidly accelerate.

"The magnets started flying off and hitting the wall, and I had to duck for cover," says Heins, surprised because he was using a weak motor. "It was like, holy crap, this is really scary."

By overloading the generator, the current should have caused the coil to build up a large electromagnetic field. This field typically creates an effect called "Back EMF," described as Lenz's law in physics, which would act to repel the approaching magnets on the rotor and slow down the motor until it stopped. Some call it the law of diminishing returns, or a law of conservation.

"Lenz's law is essentially magnetic friction, which is a form of resistance not unlike the wind resistance your car experiences when driving down the highway," explains Heins. More friction means more power is necessary to maintain a constant speed.

Instead, the opposite happened. Somehow the magnetic friction had turned into a magnetic boost. Back to the car analogy, it's like the wind moving from the front to the back of the vehicle.

Days later, Heins realized what had happened: The steel rotor and driveshaft had conducted the magnetic resistance away from the coil and back into the heart of the electric motor. Since such motors work on the principle of converting electrical energy into motion by creating rotating magnetic fields, he figured the Back EMF was boosting those fields, causing acceleration.

But how could this be? It would create a positive feedback loop. As the motor accelerated faster it would create a larger electromagnetic field on the generator coil, causing the motor to go faster, and so on and so on. Heins confirmed his theory by replacing part of the driveshaft with plastic pipe that wouldn't conduct the magnetic field. There was no acceleration.

"What I can say with full confidence is that our system violates the law of conservation of energy," he says.

"Now, is that perpetual motion? Will it end up being that?"

Inventor Thane Heins is 46 years old and he studied electronics at Heritage College in Gatineau, Que. His age and education were incorrectly stated in a Feb. 4 article about his invention dubbed the Perepiteia. The Star regrets the errors.

Also Feb 4, 2008:

QuoteThane Heins is nervous and hopeful. It's Jan. 24, a Thursday afternoon, and in four days the Ottawa-area native will travel to Boston where he'll demonstrate an invention that appears - though he doesn't dare say it - to operate as a perpetual motion machine.

The audience, esteemed Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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professor Markus Zahn, could either deflate Heins' heretical claims or add momentum to a 20-year obsession that has broken up his marriage and lost him custody of his two young daughters.

Zahn is a leading expert on electromagnetic and electronic systems. In a rare move for any reputable academic, he has agreed to give Heins' creation an open-minded look rather than greet it with outright dismissal.

It's a pivotal moment. The invention, at its very least, could moderately improve the efficiency of induction motors, used in everything from electric cars to ceiling fans. At best it means a way of tapping the mysterious powers of electromagnetic fields to produce more work out of less effort, seemingly creating electricity from nothing.

Such an unbelievable invention would challenge the laws of physics, a no-no in the rigid world of serious science. Imagine a battery system in an all-electric car that can be recharged almost exclusively by braking and accelerating, or what Heins calls "regenerative acceleration."

No charging from the grid. No assistance from gasoline. No cost of fuelling up. No way, say the skeptics.

"It sounds too good to be true," concedes Heins, who formed a company in 2005 called Potential Difference Inc. to develop and market his invention. "We get dismissed pretty quickly sometimes."

It's for this reason the 42-year-old inventor has learned to walk on thin ice when dealing with academics and engineers, who he must win over to be taken seriously. Credibility, after all, can't be invented. It must be earned. "I have to be humble. If you say the wrong thing at the wrong time, you can lose support."

The creation in question is a new kind of generator called the Perepiteia (see "Holy crap," page B3), which in Greek theatre means an action that has the opposite effect of what its doer intended. Heins torques up the definition to mean "a sudden reversal of fortune that's a windfall for humanity."

Deep down, Heins has high hopes. But he also realizes that merely using those controversial words - "perpetual motion" - usually brands a person as batty. In 2006, an Irish company called Steorn placed an advertisement in The Economist calling on all the world's scientists to validate its magnet-based "free energy" technology.

Steorn was met with intense skepticism and accused of being a scam or hoax. Seventeen months later the company has failed, despite worldwide attention, to prove anything under scrutiny. Well-educated people, from Leonardo da Vinci to Harvard-trained engineer Bruce De Palma (older brother of film director Brian De Palma), have made similar claims of perpetual motion only to be slammed down by the mainstream scientific community.

Heins has an even greater uphill battle. He isn't an engineer. He doesn't have a graduate degrees in physics. He never even finished his electronics program at California State University. "I have mild dyslexia and don't do well in math, so I didn't do very well in school," he says.

What he does have is a chef's diploma, and spent time as chef at the Canadian Museum of Civilization before launching his own restaurant in Renfrew called the Old Town Hall Tea Room. He has also had political ambitions. In 1999 he ran unsuccessfully as a candidate for the Green Party of Ontario, deciding a year later to run as an independent in the federal election.

Today, Heins is focused on showing his invention to anybody willing to see it, in hopes that somebody smarter than him will give it credibility. His long-time friend, Kim Cunningham, manager of communications and government relations at the Ottawa Centre for Research and Innovation (OCRI) is working part-time with Potential Difference to help get the message out.

Together, they have demonstrated the Perepiteia to a number of labs and universities across North America, including the University of Virginia, Michigan State University, the University of Toronto and Queens University.

"It's generally always the same reaction," says Heins. "There's a bit of a scramble on the part of the observer to put what they're seeing into some sort of context with what they know. They can't explain it. They don't know what it is."

He'd be happy if somebody did, even if the news was bad. His wife has kicked him out. He doesn't earn an income. He can't pay child support. The certainty would be welcome. "I've tried to quit many times, and thought if I could just be a normal guy I would have a normal life ... But I had this idea and I believe it works."

Others want to believe - or at least help out. Cunningham, whose brother is general manager at Angus Glen Golf Club, introduced Heins to the club's president, Kevin Thistle. For two years Thistle has acted as angel investor, providing start-up capital needed to incorporate Potential Difference, file patents and continue research.

Cunningham's boss, OCRI president Jeffrey Dale, helped open doors at the University of Ottawa and make introductions to its dean of engineering. As a result, Heins teamed up last fall with Riadh Habash, a professor at the university's school of information technology and engineering.

"Dr. Habash has essentially rolled out the red carpet," says Heins, explaining that he now has access to a university lab and all the equipment he needs to test and simulate his generator.

In an interview with the Toronto Star, Habash was cautious but matter-of-fact with what he's seen so far. "It accelerates, but when it comes to an explanation, there is no backing theory for it. That's why we're consulting MIT. But at this time we can't support any claim."

In the meantime, Heins has been on a letter-writing campaign to raise money for his mission. He's written former U.S. vice-president Al Gore, Virgin Group founder and billionaire Richard Branson and John Doerr at venture capital powerhouse Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers. He's also tried to contact entrepreneur Elon Musk, chairman of electric car upstart Tesla Motors, and the "ReCharge IT" project run by Google's philanthropic arm.

So far no bites, though there have been nibbles. Heins has had discussions with a well-known investor in Oregon, known to many as the "godfather of start-ups," who is apparently flirting with the idea of investing in Potential Difference. "We got the impression ... he's not necessarily interested in making a tonne of money, he just wants to see us succeed."

Just before the big day at MIT, the Star spoke with professor Markus Zahn about what he expected to observe.

"It's hard for me to give an opinion," said Zahn, who admitted he was excited to see the demonstration. "I don't believe it will violate the laws of physics. You're not going to get more energy out than you put in."

He said it's easy for people to set up their tests wrong and misinterpret what they see. "You've got to look closely."

It's now Jan. 28 - D Day. Heins has modified his test so the effects observed are difficult to deny. He holds a permanent magnet a few centimetres away from the driveshaft of an electric motor, and the magnetic field it creates causes the motor to accelerate. It went well.

Contacted by phone a few hours after the test, Zahn is genuinely stumped - and surprised. He said the magnet shouldn't cause acceleration. "It's an unusual phenomena I wouldn't have predicted in advance. But I saw it. It's real. Now I'm just trying to figure it out."

There's no talk of perpetual motion. No whisper of broken scientific laws or free energy. Zahn would never go there - at least not yet. But he does see the potential for making electric motors more efficient, and this itself is no small feat.

"To my mind this is unexpected and new, and it's worth exploring all the possible advantages once you're convinced it's a real effect," he added. "There are an infinite number of induction machines in people's homes and everywhere around the world. If you could make them more efficient, cumulatively, it could make a big difference."

Driving home - he can't afford to fly - Heins is exhausted but encouraged. He says Zahn will, and must, evaluate what he saw on his own terms and time. What's preventing the engineer from grasping it right away, he says, is his education, his scientific training.

Step by step, Heins is making progress, but where it will all lead remains uncertain.

So we're supposed to believe that Richard has made more progress than this guy - who actually attended university (!!!) - did in the past 23 years?

Compare to the recent article on Richard, that he actually brags about:

QuoteThe curious case of Richard Willis

Robert Wilson, Record staff 
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Kitchener, Ontario - Thursday Jan 15, 2009 - Richard Willis of Magnacoaster Motor Co. has high hopes for his green power unit, which he says multiplies power through the use of magnets. Willis's skeptics aren't so sure. Robert Wilson, Record staff 1 
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January 24, 2009
Michael Hammond
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KITCHENER

Richard Willis has heard it all before.

He's crazy. Out to lunch. Nuts. Those are some of the milder criticisms you can read about him on internet message boards.

"I get that on a daily basis," he readily admits during an interview in his laboratory, a storage locker in the old Burns meat packing plant on Guelph Street in Kitchener.

If there is one thing Willis's critics and backers agree on, it's that he's working on something way outside the mainstream.

On the surface, the concept his company, Magnacoaster Motor Co., is working on holds great promise. It's an energy generating unit that he says multiplies electrical current with the use of a battery and magnets. He promotes it as a source of continuous green electricity without any connection to the electrical grid.

Willis says the unit will produce more power than it takes in. On the season finale of Dragons' Den, the CBC Television show in which aspiring entrepreneurs pitch business ideas to venture capitalists, known as dragons, Willis showed the dragons a unit that was fed with 18 watts of electricity from a battery. From that, he said it was able to produce 50 kilowatts. He used the unit to power a row of light bulbs.

If Willis is right, his Vorktex power units could revolutionize how we think about energy.

If he's wrong, well, he's wrong.

"If it doesn't challenge me, I won't do it," he says. "I couldn't do an assembly line job."

Of course, there are a number of skeptics online and in the science world who don't believe Willis has discovered anything. Since he managed to win over billionaire westerner Brett Wilson on the December season finale of Dragons' Den, Willis's business has stirred furious debate online.

Willis says he is able to send an electrical pulse into the coils of his power devices. The electricity will break down the magnetic fields of two magnets in the units.

When those fields recombine, the result is a multiplication of the electrical current. That's the theory that Willis says he has proven, but the scientific community has yet to embrace.

Willis says his unit is based on the theory first championed by English physicist Michael Faraday, who is credited with making the discoveries that led to the electric motor.

The electric dynamo Faraday developed in the 1830s was able to produce electricity by moving magnets around an electrified wire. The principle behind the concept was changing magnetic fields produced an electric field. Willis' power unit is different in that the magnets don't move. It flips Faraday's principle on its head since it reasons that moving electric currents are able to collapse and change magnetic fields, which in turn produce more electricity.

During his session on Dragons' Den, dragon Kevin O'Leary was Willis's most vocal critic. "I think you're either completely nuts or you're very rich," O'Leary told Willis in his typical brash style.

During the televised grilling, Wilson remained quiet until finally telling Willis he would invest $1 million in Willis's business if the units do what Willis claims they can do. "If the technology works, we'll do the deal," Wilson said. "There's a big if at the front, and you heard it."

Wilson could not be reached for comment for this story.

Willis says Magnacoaster is ready to begin producing its first power units in the coming months. He says he has advance orders from people willing to put up a 50-per-cent down payment. The units displayed on Magnacoaster's website range in price from $4,200 US to $15,000 US.

Willis says he has been in touch with an employment agency to find staff for his manufacturing facility, which he plans to set up in Cambridge. He says Magnacoaster could employ thousands of people if the product takes off and requires mass production.

Bo Densmore, director of Cambridge's economic development department, says the city spoke to Willis recently, but is not aware of what he's doing right now.

At the moment, there are too many questions for skeptics to accept Willis's idea or his plans. A Toronto native, Willis, 47, has lived in the region for 10 years and formerly owned his own computer repair business.

He says he has talked to automotive executives and other companies, but online critics wonder why he hasn't announced a deal with a company.

Others wonder who is backing him financially. Willis says he has funded the business on his own with help from private investors.

He says his idea has been proven at the University of Waterloo and that he is still working with university researchers. However, UW spokesperson John Morris says the institution has no formal connection with Willis and has not sanctioned any tests.

Willis says he understands the university's reluctance to comment since his idea is groundbreaking and poses a major threat to the status quo.

In a story published in a national newspaper, Willis said he has a deal with Essex County, near Windsor, to supply the municipality with 17 megawatts of electricity.

Officials with the province's Renewable Energy Standard Offer Program say no such project is on the books, but they stressed that doesn't mean there aren't plans for such a deal. Rob Masonville, the county's treasurer, says he is not aware of any deal with Magnacoaster, but adds that it's possible he's doing something with one of the county's smaller municipalities.

Willis has been working on the Vorktex power unit for two years. It began as his entry in the $10-million US X Prize automotive contest, which encourages people to develop the world's most fuel-efficient car. The contest's backers will stage a race later this year for cars that have a fuel consumption rate of 100 miles per gallon or more.

Over the last two years, Willis has been tinkering with the power unit to develop applications beyond the auto industry. The research and development has not been easy, he says. He readily admits there were many accidents along the way. "There were a lot of fires, a lot of electrical shocks."

Willis brushes off the skepticism around his idea and company. "People don't like change," he said.

"People really don't like change."

This reporter exposes him for working in a "warehouse" that is a storage locker, exposes his lies about the supposed 'contracts' and connections he has.. this is not a flattering article - get a clue Dick: Not all press is good press.

Also, I heard from someone (several people who want to post here anonymously seem to come to me with the dirt now! lol) who claims that Richard is spending investor money buying gifts for his kids (trampoline I think?) but not making progress on the investor's return. I guess if the police come calling for fraud, he'll have a lot of 'splaining to do. Apparently he's also going to be at the Green Living Show in Toronto (not sure if that's the real Green Living Show, or the Green festival he was supposed to attend last year but backed out AFTER the city had printed brochures and everythin!) displaying a unit, but he won't have a booth. Um, Dick? Showing up on private property and attempting to circumvent booth and vendor fees by strolling around and harrassing people is going to get you kicked out by security. And with any luck they'll confiscate your property and press charges for trespassing. 

The Magnacoaster patent is WO2009065219(A1) and is available
free from (don't put the (A1)):
http://free.patentfetcher.com/Patent-Fetcher-Form.php
-Steve
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PS. Thanks for Smoky in another group for pointing this out.

just my 2cents ...  lol

if he knew what he had .....  he would know how to build it

lol

and make it work properly lol

it is plainly ovbious he does not know ... 

sorry richard if you read this and take offence .. 

i FULLY KNOW WHAT I HAVE  ;D :D :D

i dont need a pattend i have a YOU TUBE VIDEO EXPLAINING ...  lol

non the less here is the thred for my latest thing UTIALIZING MY RESERCH!!  ;)

and thane's motor ...  lol  read the thred ..  ;) :D ;D

i know what thane has ...  ;D  and know why it does what it does ...

here is the thred for my latest gift ...   ;D

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7971.0

I had to create an account... just to post my mind... (Forgive me if I am over noob bounds.)

First, this device supposedly creates X over-unity, so it does not need a battery once started, just a load. The abundance of power would be enough to sustain the operation and a load too. However, he never removes the battery and never shows any documentation of the device running beyond the life of the charge within the battery.

Second, any inverter can convert 12v DC to 120v AC, and operate a drill and a few hundred watts of power from the power of only the battery. They just won't operate it for long. Inverters also have a low-voltage cut-off, which a simple "joule thief" will effectively raise, at the cost of higher amps. That is all I saw in his devices. He raised the voltage, which in turn, raises the amperage consumed on the battery but lowers the amperage on the output from the inverter. (He used two separate 500w inverters to power two devices which only drain 100w each. He needed two inverters, because at that higher amperage draw, one single inverter, being over-driven with voltage, would have blown-up. Which is also why he uses a 1000w inverter to power 500w of lights.)

Third, he may have invented the most efficient "joule thief", but that is ancient technology, which can never be patented. Nor can any of his devices. Once a device has been "in the public eye", or "on the market" for more than a year, it can not be patented... such as a spoon or a fork or a wheel. Applying for a patent or "patent pending" is nothing. That only says he has filed paperwork, and if it fails within a year, and he is still selling it, he will never get a patent.

Fourth, with all his wisdom, which I believe is superb back-yard electrician knowledge... He fails to see that the "waves" produce "spikes" of higher volts, and higher amps, and higher frequencies, but not all at the same time. The average is still less than the input of total power. When the wave falls to near zero, there is a high amp spike, and when the voltage is at high voltage, the amps are low. That is the function of a joule thief. The average power is still equal to the wattage consumed. That 12v rises to 120v and the amps drop from 1A at 12v to 0.1A at 120v, followed by the bottom, where the voltage drops to 1.2v at 10A, output and input are still both 12w. Frequency is not only irrelevant to power, but it is also something that has to be filtered out, at the cost of lost power as heat.

His own math does not add up, and that is just the data he actually shows you. What he doesn't show you, is the reports from the universities and research centers, which, I am sure, say everything I just said above.

Epic fail.

He is trying to convince everyone that he has created a magnetic force that is focused into a point, and that he uses almost no power to push it away, allowing it to collapse back onto itself, creating massive power in the process. He stole that from the discovery channel and you-tube, from the magnetic levitation core video's and from the water cavitation video's... magnetic force without poles is nullified to zero gauss. There is no focus, that is what creates the levitation, there is no spoon in the center.

If that was possible, you would not need a frequency generator, you could just place a coil between two magnets of the same polarity, and the induction would create its own resonance as it consumed and resisted the force. Magnetic vibration and earth-gauss would be the vibraphone creating the flux required to move electrons. That is like expecting earth to power us, by wrapping it in wires... Um, doesn't work, the power company already has wires all over, and losses are still greater than any gains. You generate more power from RF antennas, and that is freely distributed all over the world, day and night, like thermal heat. Unfortunately, heat is resistance to electrons, like sandstorms are to a fly.

Ok, my $0.02 is up...

The best potential for endless renewable power is bacteria. (That is what created coal and oils in the first place.) Stop playing with magic rocks and praying to sun-gods for the answers. Hehe, but keep trying... I am sure the millions of watts consumed looking, is making the electric company laugh all the way to the bank.

If you had endless power, you wouldn't be selling it to anyone, you would be selling the power to the grid, and getting infinite funding.

Quote from: JasonD on August 27, 2010, 03:37:29 PM
I had to create an account... just to post my mind... (Forgive me if I am over noob bounds.)

First, this device supposedly creates X over-unity, so it does not need a battery once started, just a load. The abundance of power would be enough to sustain the operation and a load too. However, he never removes the battery and never shows any documentation of the device running beyond the life of the charge within the battery.

Hi Jason,
FWIW...
I emailed him a while ago about why he always outputs to a battery. He said it's because the output was high frequency spikes and it was difficult to convert to a form that was usable. So instead he uses the spikes to charge a battery. At that point it's in a usable form, either DC from the battery or use an inverter to convert to usable AC.

However, since then, based on scant information on his website it looks like he might have been trying to use a large bank of capacitors to get around the above battery issue. I'm not certain of that, that's just my guess.

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Quote from: JasonD on August 27, 2010, 03:37:29 PM
If you had endless power, you wouldn't be selling it to anyone, you would be selling the power to the grid, and getting infinite funding.

Provided the grid is willing to take your power. Here in Ontario, the Ontario Power Authority has a list of power sources it will take power from. In terms of solar, for example, the solar panels, inverter, ... must have CSA or UL certification. Can you imagine Magnacoaster taking their device to the OPA and saying this is the device we're using to generate power? Richard at Magnacoaster did say they did and got the okay in the solar category. I'm guessing that means they'd charge batteries and then an inverter would take from the batteries and feed the grid. But I don't know if that was dependent on certification first. I can't imagine it wouldn't be. From his tweets and updates it looks like he is working away at improvements and refinements toward making his device certifiable. For example, some recent work seemed to involve his finding that he has an RF shielding issue that he previously didn't think he had.

Let's say that I got my testatika to work. It's basically a rotating wheel with a bunch of custom made parts, all of it quite flimsy, nothing off-the-shelf, and the part that produces excess power is something standard physics can't explain. That's a far cry from a reliable consumer product or anything that can be certified. The process of making is so takes a while and that's what Richard seems to be going through right now. Sure you could sell it to friends, locals and on ebay but that's not the path Richard seems to be taking. He's going for consumer product and the grid.

However, at the same time, he hasn't given any proof that I've found that it works, so he could be stalling or just deluding himself. I'm hoping it does work.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org   http://wsminfo.org

Read the following thread about the self-proclaimed savior Richard Willis: http://www.overunity.com/13919/magnacoaster-hero-or-villain/

Little Dickie has been hiring workers for his manufacturing plant for many years now. Now he is downsizing because he can't afford the rent.

Obviously no one wants free energy. Right.