Overunity.com Archives

Hi all,  I recently stumbled across a romanian forum http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=234965&st=216 where a man nicknamed Gilldarida, who must have worked in the secret service disclosed A LOT of technical details about old romanian inventors and inventions, which were all of them secretised. He had access to the official files of those inventors and published a lot of original documents, but the esential information was censored by himself because he only wanted the public to know about the existence of these inventions and did not give essential data.

Short story long, he said enough for us to try to replicate those inventions. It is mainly about a PMM invented by a group of engineers lead by eng. Nicolae Moraru in the 1970-ies,  about a ciclonoidal compressor invented by Rudolf Liciar in the 1039-ies and about a geophysical weapon invented by the same eng. Nicolae Moraru.

About the PMM: he said that magnets must be placed ONLY on the stator, the rotor is just plain iron which reacts to the magnetic fields of the stator. If one puts magnets on the rotor there will allways be a sticky point. I will paste below the whole text in romanian with his explanations and please some ROMANIAN members translate the text. Please do NO computer translations, because romanian language is very difficult and it is important that the details are accurately translated. I will also post some images, taken from that romanian forum which prove that eng. Nicolae Moraru really existed and worked in a scientific institute in the time of communism. The PMM had an output of some 7 HP.

About the ciclonoidal compressor: The man Gilldarida said that it is mainly made of some propellers put in a row. Just one propeller is enough to make OU by this principle: on a cylinder there are many blades with cavities/chambers without roof, which rotate with more than 30.000 rpm. At that speed air is blown out of the chambers and inside remains VACUUM. That is on the face of the propeller. On the back remains the normal atmospheric pressure which is some 10.000 Kg per square meter. If one makes a propeller or a compressor with such a surface, that thing will be propelled forward with a 10.000 KGF (so, 10 tons of force.) Of course, one does NOT need 10 tons of force to make vacuum in the chambers of the blades, so the device is very much OU. This is the working principle of the german flying saucers, Gilldarida said that Liciar with Henri Coanda and with Schauberger worked for the nazi Germany but by the time they finished the flying saucers it was too late, germany lost the war.

This is valuable information, avaerything is in the realm of known physics. It would be best to pay professional translators to do the translations and then publish it here. Maybe teams can be made for replicating the devices. Here we go:

ROMANIAN ORIGINAL TEXT OF GILLDARIDA:

Sunt un cercetator roman specializat in tehnologii neconventionale; sunt unul dintre foarte putinii romani (3 sau 4 in total) care detine completa informatie tehnica privind sistemele de propulsie, sistemele energogeneratoare si de comunicatii - ale viitorului indepartat; paradoxal, multe dintre aceste inventii sunt foarte vechi, dar oranduirea sclavagista mondiala le-a blocat permanent accesul public.
Ar trebui sa scriu roman intreg ca sa explic acum ce-i aia ,,oranduire sclavagista"; mai grav, daca as spune o serie de lucruri apropos de cine sta in spatele acestei oranduiri, s-ar putea considera ca incalc statutul acestui forum si mi-ar fi interzis acccesul...Specialitatea mea o reprezinta defapt sistemele de propulsie aerospatiala dar cunosc multe si in alte domenii mai mult sau mai putin apropiate de ingineria aerospatiala. Voi discutati aici despre ,,motoarele magnetice"...Sa stiti ca in Romania a fost realizat un astfel de motor cu incepere din anul 1973, pentru ca in anul 1983-1984 sa fie motorizata o Dacie 1300 cu acest motor deosebit. Rezultatele au fost atat de spectaculoase incat toata documentatia si modelele experimentale au fost imediat confiscate de catre Securitate. Doar o parte din aceste materiale au mai putut fi recuperate cu incepere din anul 1992 si dupa moartea inventatorului, in 1993.
La ora actuala suntem in Romania trei persoane care detinem si conservam aceasta documentatie. Unul dintre acestia trei nu are decat date foarte generale si o serie de acte originale, un altul detine majoritatea documentatiei originale intocmite olograf de catre inventator si in fine, subsemnatul, detin si administrez documentatia oficiala din cadrul dosarului de cercetare.
N-as fi intrat pe acest forum daca in curand nu s-ar fi pregatit o intrare oficiala pe piata a lucrarii tehnice la care ma refer in aceste randuri...Este posibil ca in urmatoarele cateva luni sa avem in sfarsit accesul public, macar cu o anumita parte dintre lucrarile de tehnologie neconventionala din cadrul dosarelor de cercetare secreta. Motoarele magnetice pe care le vedeti pe internet (JNaudin.free.fr ; rex research.com ; peswiki.com etc) sunt in cea mai mare parte din cazuri nefunctionale sau de randament foarte slab; va asigur ca am urmarit cu atentie tot ceea ce circula pe internet si pe de alta parte cunosc adevarata tehnologie a acestor motoare - schema reala este foarte departe de ceea ce puteti gasi pe internet!
Deocamdata nu voi da niciun amanunt despre chestia asta - suntem in tratative pentru a obtine acordul de iesire pe piata cu asa-ceva; daca se va ajunge la asta, vom putea atunci discuta liber si am sa va dau toate amanuntele - ce materiale va sunt necesare, configuratia componentelor, principiul de functionare etc etc.
In ceea ce priveste motoarele magnetice cu scuturi sau deflectoare de camp - dragii mei, va amagiti: adevaratele motoare magnetice nu sunt facute pe baza de ,,scuturi" sau ,,ecranare de camp magnetic" ci printr-o anumita configurare a pieselor polare si dispunerea in postura de ,,intrefier" a unui element rotoric de reactie, a carui geometrie nu seamana cu nimic din ceea ce stiti in electrotehnica clasica; acesta este segmentat(golurile de aer dintre segmente provocand variatia reluctantei) si configurat de asa-natura incat fiecare segment sa formeze un vector care prin insumare sa genereze deplasarea circulara.
Va repet, schema adevarata nu o gasiti pe internet; internet-ul este plin de intoxicare informativa si tot felul de falsuri. In fine,daca va intereseaza totusi deflectoarele de camp magnetic si chisr credeti ca veti reusi ceva cu astea,va pun la dispozitie aici brevete recente pe tema ,,scuturilor magnetice" :

(nota : pentru a vedea si desenele atasate acestui brevet, cautati brevetul pe site-ul esp@cenet.com)

Cel care la inceputul anilor '70 a inventat acest motor magnetic,secretizat iata - de atata vreme deja,a pornit de la tehnica clasica si fara scopul de a obtine...ceea ce a obtinut pana la urma.El facuse studiile superioare in Paris(perioada interbelica) fiind pregatit taman in electrotehnica(L'Ecole Superieure d'Electrotecnique) iar in timpul unor conferinte internationale ale vremii,avusese in mai multe randuri ocazia de a discuta si a se consulta cu Nikola Tesla.Izbucnirea celui de-al doilea razboi mondial l-a adus inapoi in tara,unde a si ramas chiar si dupa venirea regimului comunist.
Pe la mijlocul anilor '60 el a pornit un program de cercetare pentru ameliorarea electrotehnicii clasice ; in acest scop el a luat fiecare element al electrotehnicii clasice si l-a analizat in briefing - principiul de functionare si dezavantaje.
In final,pe marginea studiului individual al fiecarui element,a stabilit cauzele generale care limiteaza performantele "motoarelor electrice"(aici luat termenul cu intelesul sau general) indiferent de categoria sau tipul acestora. In concluziile acestui scurt studiu analitic el a facut o lista cu marile impedimente tehnologice de care se izbeste toata gama motoarelor electrice,dupa care,pe rand a studiat fiecare imediment in parte si de-a lungul anilor a testat mai multe solutii.
Dupa un numar de ani de cercetare si experimentare practic permanenta,a ajuns sa puna la punct cate o solutie practica si simpla pentru fiecare problema cu care se confrunta tehnica clasica a motoarelor electrice.
Asadar,el a pornit de la incercarea de ameliorare a tehnicii existente,fara sa prevada rezultatele impresionante la care va ajunge...Tot ameliorand si aducand modificari la schema motorului electric de curent continuu,el a obtinut un motor ale carui componente au o configuratie complet atipica,modificand nu doar geometria componentelor motorului ci si principiul de functionare,dinamica ansamblului,modul de aplicare a campurilor magnetice,felul in care inchide liniile de camp in cadrul sistemului de forte magnetomotoare,etc,etc.
Initial,acest motor a fost realizat din piese polare excitate electric(electromagneti)dar ulterior,mergand pe noua schema obtinuta,el a reusit s-o aplice si cu magneti permanenti,acestia fiind STATORICI si neexistand in schema niciun fel de deflectoare de camp magnetic,scuturi,etc.
Defapt,el a inteles ca ideea sau principiul interactiunii dintre campuri magnetice adverse situate pe stator si rotor,este din start o grava greseala conceptuala care nu are cum sa scoata un randament bun indifierent de dispunerea magnetilor sau alte metode aplicate ,- si-a dat seama ca piesele polare sau magnetii,trebuiesc lasati intr-o pozitie statica,fixa,in cadrul unui dispozitiv care sa asigure o perfecta inchidere a liniilor de camp, iar intr-o anumita pozitie fata de acest dispozitiv magnetic sa fie dispus un fel de "turbina magnetica" adica un element de reactie fata de campul magnetic generat de ansamblul magnetilor ficsi,statorici.Rotorul devine deci un simplu element de reactie,care nu poarta pe el magneti,electromagneti si nici nu produce campuri (electro)magnetice de interactiune ; el nu interactioneaza ci REACTIONEAZA.
Asadar,din start toate problemele pe care le ridica astia de pe internet sunt niste ineptii...Componenta rotorica nu trebuie sa contina pe ea (electro)magneti iar dinamica masinii rotative nu trebuie sa aiba la baza sa INTERACTIUNEA dintre doua sau mai multe surse de camp magnetic,ci reactia unor elemente susceptibile magnetic fata de campul magnetic creat de surse statice,fixe.Faceti daca va place o similitudine cu turbina hidraulica sau eoliana,care este un element reactiv introdus in "liniiile de forta" ale curentului fluidic ,- turbina va transforma energia potentiala a fluidului in energie cinetica a elementului rotativ ; ar fi mai eficient daca asupra axului rotoric ar interactiona tangential un numar mare de jeturi fluidice ?! Evident ca nu ! Axul rotoric abia de s-ar putea misca iar cheltuiala de energie fluidica ar fi uriasa...Cam asta este cazul actualelor motoare electrice...,-pachete masive de miez magnetic si bobinaj pe stator si rotor,care cu mari cheltuieli de curent electric se caznesc sa interactioneze cinetic,dar cu mari pierderi datorate histerezei,curentilor Foucault,retardului de demagnetizare si fortelor contraelectromotoare care apar intre stator si rotor,momentelor de inertie de care sufera greoiul rotor clasic,etc,etc,etc...
Andreic este uimit de ce solutiile obtinute in cadrul activitatii secrete de cercetare nu sunt aplicate...
Exista un joc al intereselor aici.Din fericire(...)Romania contemporana este confruntata cu grave probleme economice iar acestea reclama solutii imediate si de mare eficienta,care totodata sa fie si ieftine,accesibile dpdv tehnologic,etc.
Am zis ,,din fericire",pentru ca de n-ar fi fost starea actuala de criza,nici nu s-ar fi pus in discutie scoaterea ,,de la naftalina" a acestor vechi inventii(unele din ele au deja respectabila varsta de...40-45 de ani !) care atata vreme au fost strict secretizate ; daca astazi pot sa mai dau drumul la gura este tocmai pentru ca s-a pus in mod serios problema utilizarii acestor inventii ; probabil ca la inceput aplicatiile vor fi restranse,in domeniul tehnicii militare sau aplicatii civile dar pentru categorii restranse de beneficiari,gen Presedintie,Senat,etc ,- dar indiferent daca la inceput aplicatiile se vor face intr-un cerc foarte restrans,va fi totusi un mare pas inainte ! De 35-40-45 de ani,inventiile din cadrul anumitor dosare de cercetare au fost adanc ingropate si numai cativa oameni dintr-o tara intreaga au avut acces direct la astfel de informatii.
Sper ca foarte curand,regimul juridic al acestor informatii sa sufere o modificare importanta,caci atunci voi putea in sfarsit iesi public fara nicio retinere - la TV,in presa,pe internet,etc.

ZPF (ZPM)

"Zero Point Energy" - este o notiune pe care indirect a lansat-o Nikola Tesla ; tot el a propus si chiar construit si primele "Zero Point Modules".sau "generatoare de punct zero",dupa ce experimentase convertizoare de energie atmosferica,telurica si amplificatoare de putere / frecventa de tip klystron(dispozitiv inventat de Tesla,de altfel...).
Dar adevaratele ZPM-uri aveau sa fie construite si experimentate abia la inceputul anilor'70,in Belgia.Personal am avut ocazia sa refac in laborator unul din primele modele experimentale testate in anul 1972 de belgieni ; a functionat.
Aceste ZPM-uri utilizeaza un material de extractie,care de obicei este un element chimic ultrapur,iar pentru a face extragerea de sarcina electrica se utilizeaza un fenomen de rezonanta precum si emisia de fond (cosmica) ce se gaseste pretutindeni in univers,fiind presupusa a reprezenta emisia remanenta provenita de la Big-Bang sau de la momentul creatiei materiale a universului.Ulterior,in 1975,experimentele privind ZPM s-au mutat in Franta unde s-au inregistrat pana in 1976 rezultate fulminante,fiind construite doua dispozitive experimentale diferite,cu mari performante.In presa vremii nu au aparut decat doua articole izolate si care contin foarte multe elemente de dezinformare introduse deliberat de catre autori,pentru ca amatorii sa nu poata face reproducerea cu succes a experimentelor.
Cu toate acestea,informatia tehnica respectiva a fost totusi transmisa si peste ,,cortina de fier" de la aceea data,astfel incat deja in 1982 chiar cel care a inventat ,,motorul magnetic" intocmea un memoriu tehnic pe aceasta tema,avand in vedere aceasta sursa de curent electric pentru alimentarea motorului sau...
Loock,ZPM-urile au fost demult inventate ; acestea se utilizeaza la ora actuala ca surse de energie electrica la bordul vehiculelor aerospatiale secrete ; prezinta dezavantajul generarii de tensiuni si frecvente inalte,care reclama echipamente auxiliare de transformare / convertire a energiei electrice ; in cazul puterilor mari,aceste dispozitive emit radiatii nocive fiind deci necesara adoptarea unor carcase speciale de ecranare.
Oricum,ZPM-urile nu sunt dispozitive motrice sau de conversie a unei energii oarecare in energie cinetica ; sunt surse de energie electrica.
Daca iti montezi la masina un asemenea ZPM,tot vei avea nevoie de un grup motopropulsor care sa fie alimentat electric si sa converteasca energia electrica in energie cinetica a elementului rotativ (axul-motor,arborele,rotile,etc).
Actualele motoare electrice nu sunt inca indeajuns de fiabile pentru a fi adoptate ca motoare de tractiune pe vehiculele terestre ; ele pot fi utilizate doar pe distante mici,au anduranta scazuta,consuma excesiv,sunt sensibile si cu grad mare de nesiguranta in functionare,neavand robustetea si rezistenta la eforturi a motorului de combustie interna...
Asadar,este necesar un nou tip de motor si abia ulterior noi tipuri de surse electrice pentru acesta.Motorul magnetic are un consum foarte redus de energie electrica,fapt care nu ridica probleme majore in alegerea sursei de curent ,- daca vrei neaparat sa punem un ZPM, OK ,se poate - atata doar ca si ZPM-urile sunt inca clasificate la ora actuala,ele fiind deocamdata doar de apanajul amatorilor SF,desi practic au fost inventate in urma cu aproape 100 de ani si experimentate cu succes acum cca.38 de ani.

------------------------------


1,- campul magnetic si energia pe care el o dezvolta,nu este ,,extrasa" ci convertita intr-o alta forma de energie ; termenul de ,,extragere" se refera de obicei la consumare ; pentru un bun randament de conversie sunt necesare doua conditii : existenta a cel putin doua piese polare,sau doi magneti interpozitionati astfel incat liniile lor de camp sa formeze un camp magnetic unitar(pentru asta fiind necesara o configuratie speciala a pieselor polare si o anumita directie a polarizarii lor) si in fine ,- liniile de camp sa fie perfect inchise in cadrul dispozitivului magnetic,asta inseamna ca daca trasam grafic liniile de camp,acestea vor trece cat mai putin prin zone deschise,aer,etc - ci se vor inchide in cadrul geometriei pieselor polare si jugurilor magnetice ale acestora ;
2,- singurul spatiu liber ramane asa-zisul ,,intrefier" situat intre piesele polare ; in acest spatiu de intrefier se va situa elementul rotoric de reactie ;
3,- conversia energiei magnetice in energie cinetica nu se face utilizand bobine,-asa cum am arata intr-un mesaj anterior,tocmai aceasta este marea greseala a tuturor categoriilor si tipurilor de motoare electrice clasice ; se utilizeaza cel mai bine miez magnetic,deci magnet nepermanent realizat din tole de Fier-Siliciu ; pe aceste pachete reactive de tole magnetice nu se pune niciun fel de bobinaj ; ele sunt doar taiate intr-o anumita geometrie cu totul si cu totul atipica fata de tot ceea ce se cunoaste la ora actuala in materie de electrotehnica,fiind dispuse pe un jug de forma speciala si care este integrat geometric jugurilor pieselor polare,-amplasarea acestor pachete magnetice reactive facandu-se in intrefierul pieselor polare care reprezinta sursa de camp magnetic ;
4,- felul in care liniile de camp comune ale celor minim doua piese polare strabat intrefierul,va genera magnetizarea pe o anumita directie de polarizare a elementelor de reactie situate in intrefier ; acestea fiind mai multe si independente una fata de cealalta,fiecare dintre ele va reactiona independent formand un anumit vector cinetic ; variatia reluctantei(datorata spatiului gol - aer - dintre elementele reactive)va participa la dinamica rotorului,in sensul amplificarii fortei sale cinetice ;
in final se face o insumare vectoriala a momentelor cinetice la care se adauga o forta magnetomotoare cauzata de variatia reluctantei in cadrul elementului rotoric ,- si iata,avem conversia energiei magnetice in energie cinetica a elementului de rotatie ;
5,- intretinerea miscarii...am precizat ca liniile de camp trebuie sa fie perfect inchise,deci dispozitivul magnetic este static, fix,fara piese in miscare ; elementul mobil - ce dupa dorinta poate descrie o miscare de translatie,de rotatie,etc - vine situat in intrefierul pieselor polare,fiind o componenta aparte a agregatului ; altminteri sursa de camp magnetic este statica si are asigurata inchiderea perfecta in juguri magnetice a liniilor de camp ; daca este vorba de electromagneti,functionarea este intretinuta de curentul electric de excitatie a pieselor polare ; daca este vorba de magneti permanenti,acestia vor functiona atata vreme cat materialul nu va fi "demagnetizat" - la magnetii de buna calitate ademagnetizarea se produce in multi ani de zile...Practic insa,miscarea nu va tine atat de mult datorita limitelor de uzura ale elementelor mecanice ,- arbore,lagare,piese alunecatoare,etc.Pe de alta parte,incalzirea componentelor motorului influenteaza negativ calitatile magnetice ale materialului si randamentul.
In ce priveste performantele motoarelor electrice actuale,testate de unele firme...Nu vreau sa repet ceea ce am spus in mesajul precedent.Daca aceste motoare nu sunt introduse in mare productie de serie,aceasta nu se datoreaza in primul rand lipsei unor surse electrice apte de a fi imbarcate(de bine,de rau-sursele electrice ar exista...)dar motoarele sunt inca de fiabilitate mult prea mica pentru a inlocui motorul de combustie interna.
Este necesar un motor robust,cu o buna fiabilitate,consum energetic foarte redus,randament bun,etc.Niciunul din motoarele electrice clasice nici macar nu se apropie de aceste criterii....


Mai mult decat orice alta persoana,sunt pe deplin constient de riscuri si de implicatii ; discutiile care se poarta la ora actuala au in vedere o serie de aplicatii restranse "la nivelul strategic" ,- grupuri energogene de interventie pentru suplinirea costurilor exorbitante ale termocentralelor clasice(alimentate cu gaz venit din Rusia / Ukraina via Transnistria si care pe zi ce trece devine tot mai scump,ca sa nu mai vorbim ca permanent a constituit un obiect in cadrul unor politici de santaj ale Transnistriei,Ukrainei sau Rusiei fata de Romania)fiind deci necesara dezvoltarea in paralel a unor tehnologii care sa permita in caz de necesitate interventia salvatoare in cadrul sistemului energetic national.
Un motor magnetic de genul celui despre care am vorbit este capabil de un randament minimal de 7 CP / kg de miez magnetic,ceea ce inseamna ca o tona de miez magnetic(deci un motor de gabarit industrial)ar putea dezvolta cca.40 Mw...
Sistemul energetic national si siguranta in fata santajului ruso-ukrainian,reprezinta interese strategice.Nu se pune deocamdata problema iesirii cu acest gen de motor la nivel de masa,dar mai poate avea si aplicatii militare cum ar fi de pilda - motorizarea tehnicii speciale de lupta,si ma refer aici la asa-zisele "arme strategice",care au o importanta covarsitoare in scena politico-militara si in obtinerea si asigurarea suprematiei.
Oricum,sa fie utilizat,asta vreau sa obtin in urma negocierilor de acum...La nivel restrans,fie...
Doar pentru aplicatii de nivel strategic,fie... Doar de catre militarii unor formatiuni speciale sau de catre serviciile secrete, fie...Nu ma aflu in postura de a conditiona sau de a dicta,de a impune...
Ma zbat sa scot aceasta lucrare din praful arhivelor pentru a-i da in sfarsit o utilitate publica,fie aceasta doar la nivelul restrans al unor servicii speciale,in regim militarizat,etc.
Ar fi totusi un pas inainte,chiar daca drumul de parcurs ar ramane inca atat de lung...


R: magneÅ£ii propriu-ziÅŸi sunt magneÅ£ii permanenÅ£i,care se obÅ£in prin aliere ÅŸi turnare în stare topită în cadrul unor matriÅ£e iar imediat dupa turnare dar după scăderea sub punctul Curie(temperatura la care substanÅ£ele feromagnetice îşi pierd proprietăţile magnetice),-fiind polarizate magnetic ; aceste aliaje fiind compuse în principal din magnetit(FeO si Fe2O3) dar ÅŸi din alte elemente ; Terra conÅ£ine foarte mult magnetit dar nu înseamnă ca s-ar fi stabilit cu certitudine că aceasta este cauza magnetismului natural - liniile de câmp magnetic terestru formează cu direcÅ£ia Nord un unghi numit declinaÅ£ie iar cu orizontala locului unghiul numit înclinaÅ£ie â€" vezi hărÅ£ile ataÅŸate ;
magneţi se pot crea şi utilizând fenomenul de inducţie şi ţinând cont de caracteristicile materialului supus procesului de magnetizare - este vorba de aşa-numita "permeabilitate magnetică" ; cea mai bună permeabilitate magnetică în cadrul electrotehnicii clasice o are fierul moale,dar substanţe feromagnetice sunt deopotrivă şi nichelul,cobaltul,gradoliniul,etc.
pentru magnetizare se respectă un anumit grafic - vezi ataşamentul,ţinând cont de aşa-numita curbă de magnetizare şi se merge potrivit cu proprietăţile magnetice ale materialului respectiv până aproape de saturarea magnetică a acestuia.
Deschide ataşamentul şi uită-te pe graficele de acolo - urmărind curba de magnetizare se poate constata că dacă intensitatea câmpului creşte,inducţia creşte din ce în ce mai încet.În partea sa superioară,această curbă devine o linie aproape dreaptă iar inducţia creşte şi mai încet deşi intensitatea câmpului continuă să crească.S-a atins deci aproape saturarea magnetică...Astfel,o bucată de oţel - de pildă - este magnetizată temporar,dar datorită fenomenului de remanenţă care are o valoare mare la materialele feromagnetice de calitate bună.
Da,pentru magnetizare sunt utilizate bobine alimentate în c.c. Procesele de magnetizare în funcţie de material,pot necesita un timp mai lung sau mai scurt,valoarea acestuia fiind constatată experimental şi întabelată.
Rectific :
"Astfel,o bucată de oţel - de pildă - este magnetizată temporar,dar datorită fenomenului de remanenţă care are o valoare mare la materialele feromagnetice de calitate bună - va rămâne magnetizat pentru o durată mare de timp,funcţie de calitatăţile sale magnetice.

REST OF THE TEXT

"Motoarele electrice" clasice,deşi se numesc "electrice" - nu transformă (direct) energia electrică în lucru mecanic ; o asemenea transformare nu o fac decât motoarele electrostatice,al căror element rotoric(sau element..."cinetic",indiferent de felul de mişcare pe care îl realizează) este acţionat de către câmpul electric propiu-zis.
Motoarele aşa-zis "electrice" sunt defapt "electromagnetice" - acestea utilizând (cel mai adesea) interacţiunea dintre câmpurile magnetice generate de electromagneţii statorici şi rotorici,indiferent dacă sunt inductori sau induşi ; aşadar interacţiunea câmpurilor magnetice şi eventual realizarea unui aşa-zis "câmp magnetic călător",constituie izvorul de forţă care este convertit în energie cinetică.
Sunt cunoscute sub numele de "motoare magnetice",acele sisteme de forţă care utilizează magneţii permanenţi bazându-se pe interacţiunea câmpurilor magnetice generate,sau pe variaţia "rezistenţei magnetice"(reluctanţei),cum este cazul motoarelor prezentate în postarea anterioară.Cel mai adesea,aceste motoare utilizează şi alimentare cu curent electric însă doar pentru excitarea anumitor porţiuni ale circuitului finamic sau pentru alimentarea aparaturii de comutaţie.
În concluzie,denumirea de "motor magnetic"(care se bazează pe conversia câmpului magnetic) este corectă chiar şi pentru motoarele clasice,acestea fiind mai improriu denumite "electrice",decât ar fi denumite-"magnetice"...

Da,unele modele utiliează curentul electric sub forma unor impulsuri secvenţiale şi în rest,câmpul magnetic generat de magneţii permanenţi ; dintre modelele publice de motoare cu magneţi pemanenţi,niciunul nu este "supraunitar" şi nici măcar "unitar" în materie de randament...
De pildă,un motor cu reluctanţă variabilă de genul aceluia construit de fraţii Jarret,pentru o putere mecanică dezvoltată în axul-motor,având valoarea echivalentului electric de 1 Kw,va cheltui cca.1,25-1,4 Kw putere electrică propriu-zisă ; avantajele constau în compactizare,simplitate tehnologică,viteză dezvoltată,masă redusă(un bun raport de greutate per cal-putere) şi altele.
Există şi motoare magnetice supraunitare,dar acelea nu sunt publice şi nu le poţi găsi pe internet sau în alte baze publice de date ; principiul de funcţionare este destul de simplu - două piese polare statorice configurate astfel încât să închidă perfect liniile de câmp,generează un câmp magnetic care este închis în jugurile acestor piese polare ; în întrefier este dispus un element reactiv (care reacţionează la acţiunea câmpului magnetic) de o configuraţie complet ieşită din comun şi ale cărui segmente dau naştere unor momente (de forţă) care se pot exprima vectorial.
Însumarea vectorială a acestor forţe conduce la obţinerea unei forţe rezultante pe aceiaşi direcţie de apliicaţie şi care din punct de vedere valoric poate fi întradevăr superioară energiei electrice consumate pentru excitarea pieselor polare ;
dacă se utilizează magneţi permanenţi în loc de electromagneţi,atunci motorul chiar nu consumă nimic...Însă,repet,aceste scheme nu au fost şi nu sunt aprobate pentru publicare deocamdată.
Nu-i bai,-cine vrea să facă o maşină cu motor magnetic poate deocamdată utiliza motorul cu reluctanţă variabilă al fraţilor Jarret,urmând ca pentru alimentarea electrică să utilizeze surse electrochimice speciale ,- şi mă refer la sursa electrochimică secundară plumb-acid bipolară,cu electrozi granulaţi şi electrolit gelations ; un acumulator nesulfatabil,ieftin şi care are o capacitate mult mai mare decât acea a acumulatorilor clasici,deci va putea stoca o cantitate mare de energie electrică într-un volum mult mai compact,oferind o rezervă suficientă pentru minim 6-7 ore de funcţionare a motorului.

R: "energia magnetică" ,- dar hai să şi lămurim noţiunea asta,pentru că am văzut că este controversată...Ca şi cazul câmpului electric,câmpul magnetic este însoţit de o energie ; potrivit legilor fizicii,pentru producerea unui câmp de forţă trebuie să se producă un lucru mecanic ; la magneţii permanenţi lucrul mecanic este produs intim,în structura atomică şi moleculară a materialului prin polarizarea acestuia ; la electromagnet lucrul mecanic este produs de curentul electric de intensitate I,care crează cel puţin o selfinducţie a circuitului pe care îl parcurge ,- tocmai de aceea formula simplificată a energiei magnetice este Wm = [(L) x (I)^2] / 2,deci produsul dintre inductanţa L şi patratul intensităţii curentului electric, supra 2.Mai departe,introducând în relaţia de mai sus formula de calcul a inductanţei vom afla că :
-energia magnetică este conţinută de volumul materialului magnetic ;
-purtătorul energiei magnetice este câmpul magnetic ;
în domeniul transformării cinetice a acestei energii magnetice,formula generală,estimativă utilizată în practică,este :
F = [( B / 5000 )^2] x S ,adică produsul dintre patratul raportului B/5000 şi valoarea suprafeţei străbătute de liniile de câmp
Am făcut aceste precizări pentru că am observat tendinţa unora de a nega noţiunea de "energie magnetică"...deşi aceasta este recunoscută şi consacrată chiar de către fizica clasică...!
Nu poate fi vorba de nicio analogie între câmpul gravitaţional şi cel magnetic - dacă ne referim strict la aplicaţia acestor câmpuri de forţă în cadrul unui sistem de convertire în energie mecanică.

R: nu vreau să spun altceva decât...ceea ce am mai spus şi în alte rânduri ,- că acest motor a fost construit în România (nu revendic vreo exclusivitate românească,ci mă limitez doar la documentaţia la care am avut personal acces...)încă din anul 1972-1973 în baza unor cercetări şi experimente care s-au întins pe mai mulţi ani ; a fost testat în 1983-1984 utilizându-se o Dacie 1300 şi un TV ; după care materialul a fost confiscat şi dus departe de accesul publicului.Nu am avut şi nu am personal niciun nerit în activitatea de cercetare carea condus la inventarea şi realizarea acestui motor ; nu am avut decât privilegiul de a fi unul dintre puţinii care a putut lectura dosarul de cercetare privitor la această laborioasă lucrare tehnică ;
mai mult,ce-ar mai trebui să comentez...? am mai vorbit despre asta...

1,- concluzia este falsă ori cel puţin nu poate fi considerată axiomă ; aşa cum principial am descris mai devreme motorul magnetic realizat în 1973,acesta dispunea de două piese polare fixe(statorice) realizate după dorinţă din electromagneţi sau magneţi permanenţi.Nu exista niciun mecanism de apropiere/îndepărtare a polilor magnetici..."Motoare magnetice" bazate pe "principiul" acesta se găsesc din plin pe internet şi nu funcţionează de nicio culoare,deoarece cel mai adesea energia cheltuită pentru realizarea acestor deplasări alternative a pieselor polare,fiind mult prea mare.Un alt principiu de funcţionare aplicat la motoarele magnetice,este acela al realizării unei variaţii periodice a "rezistenţei magnetice" (reluctanţei) prin aceasta putându-se obţine o energie cinetică aplicată pe o anumită direcţie ;
pentru a avea energie gravitaţională nu este neapărat necesară condiţia prevăzută de Dvs. - ci este necesar doar atât : să existe un punct material caracterizat prin masă...

R:Aşadar acest motor magnetic nu consumă nimic altceva decât energia înmagazinată în nişte magneţi permanenţi, aceştia în timp demagnetizându-se (sau nu?); am înţeles bine?
2,- Da.Teoretic...Practic,apar o serie întreagă de limitări mecanice care ţin de lagăre,de etanşare,lubrifiere,încălzire,uzură şi limitările aduse de alte organe de maşini care intră în schemă...


Inteligenţa mea reprezintă o chestiune pe care nici nu o pun în discuţie,nefiind în măsură să o măsor şi cuantific în vreun fel - deşi am văzut că s-au făcut de către unii tot felul de încercări de stabilire a unor metode în acest sens...
Părerea dumitale nu o înţeleg - nu am pretins niciodată că aş fi "savant" ; celor care în cadrul corespondenţei personale mi-au cerut să le prezint pregătirea mea oficială,le-am răspuns ceea voi reitera şi aici cu această ocazie :
- am absolvit Facultatea de Drept şi m-am specializat în criminalistică (balistică judiciară) ;
- iniţial am lucrat în Aviaţie,dar din raţiuni de sănătate am fost nevoit să abandonez la un moment dat acest domeniu de activitate ;
- încă de acum cca.20 de ani,în împrejurări pe care nu le menţionez,am ajuns să fiu tangenţial implicat în activităţi cu caracter special - la început doar la experimentare,apoi şi în cercetare ; nu am făcut niciodată parte din aceste colective care erau formate exclusiv din ingineri specializaţi pe anumite domenii ; dar am văzut ce făceau şi încet-încet am avut acces la documentaţia lor ;
- cea mai mare parte a persoanelor care au format aceste colective de ceretare au decedat între timp ori s-au retras definitiv din activitate,iar alte asemenea colective nu au mai fost formate după decembrie 1989 ; au mai rămas doar câţiva dintre aceia care într-un fel sau altul au avut acces la aceste dosare şi au avut deci ocazia să cunoască o serie de informaţii tehnice,detalii,etc.
Personal,nu am inventat nimic şi n-aş îndrăzni vreodată să mă dau drept inventator şi să-mi revendic patrimoniul intelectual asupra lucrărilor realizate în zeci de ani de cercetare de către alţii...Am pretins eu aşa-ceva până acum ? Nu sunt "savant", "inventator" sau altceva de felul acesta - şi nici nu am pretins asta ; sunt doar unul dintre puţinii care a putut avea acces la anumite dosare de cercetare care au fost şi sunt încă ţinute foarte departe de public.
Am citit,am comparat,m-am documentat,am recitit,m-am uitat pe rezultatele experimentelor,în anumite cazuri am şi refăcut unele dintre aceste experimente - în final,am înţeles ce şi cum au făcut ; în toată această activitate am avut suportul mai multor ingineri din diverse domenii,inclusiv ingineri militari,a căror consultanţă s-a dovedit de multe ori necesară.


Aşa cum am mai spus şi altora care mi-au îmmpărtăşit astfel de opinii (gen de opinii foarte des întâlnite,de altfel...) ,- voi aveţi acces la ceea ce se găseşte "pe piaţă" şi...pe piaţă se găseşte tehnologia convenţională care vă mănâncă de bani şi vă face strict dependenţi faţă de un cerc restrâns de potentaţi - iar pe lângă aceasta,o puzderie de aiureli şi escrocherii care împânzesc internet-ul şi despre care am mai vorbit,nu vreau să mă repet...
Eu am avut acces la alte informaţii şi mă bizui pe alt tip de "surse" ; colectivele de cercetare la care m-am referit cu mai multe ocazii nu făceau doar cercetare teoretică ci şi experimentală - dar acestea toate sunt informaţiile mele şi lucrurile pe care eu le cunosc.
Ce aş putea să-ţi fac dumitale sau altora care au opinii asemănătoare cu a dumitale...? "Muncă de convingere" ? Activitate de propagandă ? Cum aş putea eu să vă fac să credeţi ceea ce nu vreţi să credeţi şi în definitiv - de ce să fac asta !? Mi-ar servi la ceva...? Am intrat pe un forum şi am prezentat ceea ce ştiu şi nu am vreo interdicţie categorică...
Alaltăieri am primit un avertisment destul de dur din partea unui anumit individ,care mi-a invocat nişte articole de lege pe care mi le-a şi trimis în ataşament la e-mail...Asta este - pe unii îi deranjează anumite lucruri.
Pe dumneata nu are de ce să te deranjeze - după cum spuneai "deocamdată nu avem soluţii" ; păi însăşi acest verdict este o soluţie...


Atât cât am putut descrie - am descris deja ; lecturaţi atent toate postările de pe acest topic.
Pe scurt - este vorba minimal de două perechi de 2 + 2 piese polare statorice,prinse de juguri magnetice care asigură o perfectă închidere a liniilor de câmp ; acestea sunt de configuraţie circulară şi dacă este vorba de electromagneţi,sunt bobinate într-un mod complet atipic,faţă de ceea ce se cunoaşte la motoarele electrice clasice ; în regiunea de întrefier se amplasează elementul rotoric (dacă mişcarea dorită este cea de rotaţie...) care este parcurs de liniile de câmp formate între cele patru elemente (două perechi) statorice - se poate face o analogie cu turbinele hidraulice sau eoliene care sunt dispuse în cadrul "liniilor de forţă" generate de curgerea unui jet fluidic...
Rotorul este un element de reacţie şi conversie a energiei magnetice în energie cinetică (ca şi clasica turbină din sistemele clasice,pentru conversia energiei fluidice sau termodinamice) ; el va produce mişcarea,lucrul mecanic util...
De unde vine energia suplimentară în sistem...!?! Este energia magnetică despre care am mai vorbit şi care depinde de volumul materialului magnetic,de suprafaţa străbătută de liniile de câmp în regiunea de întrefier, de calităţile magnetice ale materialului,de temperatura sa(cu cât e mai rece,cu atât mai bine...),etc.
Dacă este vorba de electromagneţi,curentul electric poate fi utilizat însă doar pentru excitaţie secvenţială,sub formă de impulsuri de curent continuu - alimentarea electrică nu este deci chemată să asigure puterea necesară de acţionare a elementului rotoric la parametrii doriţi.
Motorul experimentat în anul 1983 avea capacitatea de a genera 7 CP per Kg de miez magnetic - deci energia unui Kg de material magnetic putea fi convertită în energie cinetică utilă,la această valoare a raportului de conversie...
În 1984,Direcţia a IV-a de Securitate,mai precis serviciul CI - a confiscat toate dispozitivele experimentale şi astfel am ajuns câţiva ani mai târziu eu să le cunosc ; am cercetat aceste "obiecte" şi dosarele de documentaţie care le însoţeau.
Am văzut şi am înţeles despre ce este vorba ; mai mult de atât..,ce să mai spun ? Sunt o sumedenie de lucruri pe care le tot repet...


cunosc foarte bine legislaţia referitoare la protecţia intelectuală în general şi în particular la protecţia invenţiilor prin brevet aşa cum apare aceasta în cadrul Legii nr.64 din 1991,Legii nr.32/1996 şi toate celelalte acte normative conexe...
Oricum,mulţumesc pentru sugestie !
Invenţia nu a fost brevetată de către adevăratul ei autor - dar nu aspectul juridic patrimonial-intelectual este acum cel mai important ci aspectul impactului asupra intereselor anumitor grupuri...Până în momentul de faţă nu am reuşit să conving pe cei în măsură să-mi dea autorizaţiile necesare,asupra aspectului benefic al unei astfel de iniţiative ; ei îşi au interesele lor care sunt legate de afaceri de mare anvergură aflate actualmente în plină desfăşurare,iar intrarea pe piaţă a unui astfel de motor este considerată deranjantă.
Dpdv juridic,trebuie obţinută o hotărâre judecătorească (de competenţa după materie a Tribunalului Bucureşti) prin care să mi se dea dreptul brevetării şi utilizării invenţiei conţinute în cadrul dosarului secret de cercetare pentru care instituţia care îl înarhivează în momentul de faţă,va trebui să aprobe mai întâi declasificarea acestuia pentru a putea fi prezentat într-o instanţă ; potrivit legii,tribunalul poate autoriza brevetarea şi utilizarea industrială/comercială a invenţiei altui autor,dacă a trecut un anumit termen şi se face dovada că autorul nu a mai acordat interesul necesar în tot acest timp,pentru protecţia juridică a invenţiei sale ; de asemenea,se mai face şi dovada existenţei capacităţii certe de a pune în valoare invenţia cu pricina.Se rezolvă această formalitate juridică - dar mai întâi va trebui declasificat dosarul,pentru a fi invocat în faţa unei instanţe civile,şi nu mă refer aici la publicarea informaţiei tehnice conţinute în acest dosar,ci la recunoaşterea oficială a existenţei acestuia de către instituţia care îl arhivează !
Atâta vreme cât mi se tot aruncă în obraz că le încurc afacerile,ba unii mă mai şi ameninţă - evident că nu voi avea altceva de făcut decât să vorbesc în gol pe forumuri şi eventual să mai trec şi drept mincinos ori impostor...
Asta este... Sunt o serie de probleme care mă depăşesc.


Aşa cum am mai arătat,chiar şi în scurta expunere de mai devreme...referitoare la noţiunea de "energie magnetică" şi la principiul general al motorului de care vorbesc ,- în cazul "energiei magnetice" dacă luăm cazul electromagnetului,lucrul mecanic este produs de curentul de intensitate I care produce în circuitul străbătut o selfinducţie.
Vom avea energia aceasta (magnetică) egală deci cu produsul dintre inductanţă şi patratul intensităţii curentului electric împărţit la 2 iar mai departe,dacă introducem în formulă şi expresia de calcul a inductanţei vedem că energia câmpului magnetic este proporţională cu volumul miezului magnetic.
Purtătorul energiei magnetice este câmpul magnetic ; acesta se configurează potrivit liniilor de câmp, "deplasarea" acestora prin materialul magnetic şi jugurile de închidere a câmpului,fiind cea care dă naştere energiei potenţiale - aşa cum deplasarea "liniilor de forţă" ale apei sau vântului formează tot o energie potenţială.
Dispunerea în cadrul acestor linii de câmp a unui element de reacţie (cum este prin analogie turbina hidraulică sau eoliană...) va conduce la conversia energiei potenţiale respective în energie cinetică a elementului rotativ - dacă despre mişcare de rotaţie este vorba.
Nu e vorba de nicio "ecranare magnetică"(dacă ai fi citit prima mea postare pe acest topic ai fi văzut cum combat din start această ",etodă"...) şi nici de vreo deplasare a pieselor polare (a magneţilor...) în diverse poziţii diferenţiate pe parcursul rotaţiei de 360 grade.


Mă ocup deja de problema asta ; a fost realizat un mic motor demonstrativ cu trei perechi de piese polare iar acum aştept venirea din străinătate a componentelor pentru un motor serios - de minim 250 CP ; cu tristeţe a trebuit să constat imposibilitatea de a face acest motor în România - majoritatea fabricilor s-au desfiinţat şi nu mai merge să-ţi facă un maistru câte-ceva "la ciubuc" ; acum au mai rămas doar câteva ateliere corespunzător dotate,dar pun condiţia unor producţii de mare serie iar pentru serii mici sau unicate,solicită nişte preţuri exorbitante...
În plus,se lucrează cu materiale şi configuraţii speciale - pentru care este necesară prelucrarea prin electroeroziune şi tăierea cu laser.Doar în străinătate aş putea reuşii să găsesc parteneri de afaceri care fără a şti ce lucrează anume,ar fi în măsură să realizeze piese în regim de unicat la preţuri acceptabile,corespunzătoare cantităţii de material şi dificultăţii prelucrării realizate.


Vă învârtiţi în chestiuni de teorie generală şi abstractă ; eu vorbesc despre aplicaţiii practice.
Inventatorul cu pricina a realizat un circuit conţinând câte patru piese polare între care a intercalat juguri potrivit unei anumite configuraţii de închidere a liniilor de câmp.Elementul de reacţie şi conversie a "energiei magnetice" este aşa-fel configurat încât se află dispus în toate porţiunile de întrefier pe care le au între ele piesele polare.
Potrivit direcţiei de deplasare a liniilor de câmp,energia magnetică acţionează pe altă direcţie în cadrul fiecărei zone de întrefier,iar mişcarea unitară pe o singură direcţie de deplasare este realizată prin însumare vectorială.
Soluţia motorului magnetic este una geometrică ; trebuie să ştii cum să configurezi şi cum să interpoziţionezi componentele unui astfel de sistem pentru a avea o conversie a energiei în mişcare continuă de rotaţie.
Câmpul magnetic ar putea fi considerat "static",dar în schema clasică a magnetului singular ; "tot şpilul" a fost până la urmă acela de a lua patru magneţi statorici de o formă specială cu o direcţie de polarizare atipică (faţă de ceea ce este acum pe piaţă apropiat de geometria menţionată) şi i-a introdus în cadrul unui circuit magnetic unitar prin intermediul unor juguri lăsând mai multe regiuni de întrefier în care este dispus unul şi acelaşi element rotoric reactiv - vectorial,asupra lui acţionează concomitent forţe care se însumează pe aceiaşi direcţie de rotaţie.
Chestia cu vântul şi apa...au fost nişte simple analogii abstracte,nu încercarea de a susţine că liniile de câmp magnetic s-ar mişca precum nişte curele de transmisie sau fileuri fluide sub presiune...
Evident că pilitura nu începe să se mişte pe hârtia sub care este amplasat un magnet,dar un element rotoric asupra căruia acţionează concomitent câmpul magnetic în mai multe regiuni diferite dar care se însumează pe aceiaşi direcţie de rotaţie - ei bine,DA,acest element mecanic se va roti ! Şi asta fără ca liniile de câmp magnetic să devină mobile ca nişte unde de aer sau apă...


În legătură cu situaţia lui Vuia (reprezentanţii Academiei franceze i-au spus că"realizarea unui aparat de zbor mai greu decât aerul este o himeră",în situaţia în care chiar prin curtea academiei zburau păsări - "aparate" naturale - fatalmente mai grele decât aerul...) sau a lui Vlaicu, ş.a.m.d - există din păcate o mare diferenţă : ei erau consideraţi excentrici sau chiar nebuni,dar pe nimeni nu deranja ca atare realizarea unui aparat de zbor.
Tocmai de aceea,când au adus aparatul de zbor demonstrativ,realizat cu finanţare privată - au primit recunoaşterea de rigoare şi Vlaicu - chiar finanţarea pentru continuarea activităţii sale.
În cazul meu,deranjează - nu este vorba că aceia care menţin regimul de clasificare al informaţiei ar crede că lucrarea asta este o prostie,ci dimpotrivă.
Ea a fost sustrasă inventatorului prin forţă (în situaţia şi legislaţia anului 1984,se făcea aşa-ceva,decesul autorului intervenind în anul 1993...) cam în felul în care li s-au luat oamenilor şi alte bunuri - şi aceasta nu pentru că invenţia sa ar fi fost o prostie,o inepţie,etc - ci dimpotrivă.
Situaţia juridică actuală se poate clarifica şi se va clarifica la momentul oportun.Este necesară realizarea unei variante de motor de putere mare (sute CP) pentru a face pasul următor ; şi mă ocup de asta.


Nu ; la ora actuală nu am decât un model rudimentar aproximativ de mărimea unei cutii de conserve de 1 litru şi care este făcut potrivit unei scheme iniţiale din anul 1973,pentru că mi-a fost mai uşor,mai accesibil ; dar cu acesta nu fac nimic practic - nu ar putea fi decât cel mult un soi de "motoraş de vitrină" ca şi motorul cu apă al lui Ruşeţel.
Nu vreau să merg pe calea lui Ruşeţel ; aş vrea să ies în faţa publicului direct cu un model practic,aplicabil la automobile ; costurile sunt însă importante şi nu pot înainta decât pas-cu-pas,pe măsură ce fac rost de bani.


Alimentată cu curent electric,se învârte... Ca orice motor electric.
Nu sunt eu genul care postează pe You Tube sau care trimite materiale senzaţionale către site-uri care tratează tehnologii neconvenţionale sau free-energy şi alte chestii dinastea.
Treaba asta este concretă şi se pune cam în felul următor :

1,- realizarea unui motor de aplicaţie practică,complet pus la punct şi adaptat comercial ;
2,- formarea unui consorţiu care să cuprindă persoane fizice şi juridice,inclusiv instituţii de stat ;
3,- obţinerea protecţiei juridice printr-o hotărâre judecătorească pronunţată de către Tribunalul Bucureşti ; nu se mai poate ridica problema protecţiei juridice prin brevet,deoarece aceasta nu o putea cere decât inventatorul - acum situaţia juridică este cu totul alta ;
4,- aprobarea proiectului şi obţinerea finanţării din fondurile UE special destinate unor astfel de activităţi,fonduri care pentru România la ora actuală zac neutilizate şi cu riscul de a ne fi retrase la un moment dat ;
5,- încheierea unui contract între consorţiu şi firma/firmele producătoare de motoare/maşini - care să producă şi comercializeze variantele stabilite în final ca fiind comerciabile.

Să le luăm pe rând :

(1) - pentru acest motor,ajutat de câţiva ingineri specialişti şi utilizând documentaţia originală inventatorului şi a dosarului de cercetare pe care acesta l-a condus începând cu 1973,-am realizat desenele şi calculaţia de proiect pentru un motor de câteva sute CP,cu regimul de tracţiune reglabil ; încă de acum mai bine de o lună de zile am compartimentat şi înaintat această documentaţie către nişte parteneri aflaţi în străinătate şi prin intermedierea cărora lucrările să fie trimise către o serie de prestatori aleşi din timp de către noi,încă de-aici din România.Până la ora actuală,o parte din comenzile înaintate nici măcar nu au primit răspuns,altele da - dar presupun preţuri piperate şi suntem în curs de a obţine banii ; cele mai simple lucrări - dar şi neesenţiale - s-au putut deja face ; pentru inventator în 1983-1984 a fost simplu - lucra în cercetare şi nu trebuia decât să facă o listă cu cele necesare ; statul român - aşa socialist cum era...- suporta toate cheltuielile necesare şi finanţa integral munca de cercetare ; pentru noi..,nici nu mai intră în discuţie aşa-ceva ... ;
(2) - membrii acestui consorţiu sunt deja cunoscuţi la ora actuală şi am vorbit separat cu fiecare dintre ei ; au acceptat trei firme private,o catedră din politehnică şi vreo două instituţii de cercetare - până acum ; poate mai câştigăm şi pe alţii după ce vom veni şi cu ceva mai concret... ;
(3) - dacă implic şi statul român în afacerea asta (şi aici lupta este una de culise - pentru convingerea unoir granguri care să fie părtaşi neoficial în chestia asta) voi obţine fără doar şi poate hotărârea judecătorească necesară ;
(4) - cam aceleaşi observaţii generale şi pentru deblocarea banilor UE destinaţi finanţării activităţii de cercetare ; aceşti bani nu ar fi daţi pe producţie comercială (nici nu ar fi legalmente permis...) ci pentru cercetare în vederea stabilirii unui model comerciabil pentru acest motor ; "comerciabil" înseamnă - să ofere siguranţă şi uşurinţă în exploatare,să nu fie chiar de un randament excesiv de bun,să aibă subansamble şi piese de schimb care să poată fi uşor produse industrial şi schimbate de către utilizator ; exploatarea lui să fie de aşa natură încât să presupună uzura unora dintre piese ori subansamble şi deci,înlocuirea lor după un interval rezonabil de timp,etc,etc ;
(5) - după ce există modelul comerciabil,el mai trebuie şi preluat ca atare de către un mare producător de maşini sau motoare,pentru a fi introdus în producţie de serie şi comercializat prin reţeaua de desfacere...

Imediat după trecerea de etapa protecţiei juridice,vom putea să publicăm (reviste,ziare,cărţi,broşuri publicitare,internet) datele tehnico-ştiinţifice de bază privind acest motor : schema de principiu,bazele teoretice,analize comparative faţă de toate celelalte "motoare electrice" construite până acum,etc,etc. Motoraşul care este la mine pe birou - lângă calculator - poate fi orice într-un filmuleţ You Tube : o cutie cu un ax care se învârte şi se vede că are fir electric de alimentare
Hodoronc-tronc ,- o astfel de imagine nu ar spune nimănui nimic... Nutresc speranţa că încet-încet voi reuşi să ies din situaţia asta şi să parcurg etapele susmenţionate


Problema a fost şi este una...politică ; motorul magnetic românesc a fost realizat şi experimentat în perioada 1983-1984 lucrarea de cercetare fiind finanţată integral de către Stat,via ICPE-Bucureşti şi ICEMENERG (unde lucra defel inventatorul);
de ce după constatarea performanţelor deosebite ale acestui sistem de propulsie,au fost imediat confiscate toate dispozitivele experimentale,documentaţia şi orice alte dovezi iar programul de cercetare a fost imediat oprit şi cercetătorii din componenţa colectivului respectiv au fost în mod deliberat detaşaţi cu serviciul în toate colţurile României,deşi iniţial toţi erau din Bucureşti !?!!
Pentru că lucrarea a fost predată la ICE Dunărea pentru a fi vândută în occident ca secret industrial,fapt care s-a şi realizat dar finalmente de către ICE Felix,care se ocupa de contracte şi negocieri de acest gen ,- a făcut RSR nişte bani grei de tot din afacerea asta... Ce s-a ales din aceşti bani ?! Aş putea să răspund..,dar mai bine nu mă amestec în acest subiect.
Şi actualmente problema este una politică... Eu nu sunt un tip oarecare,"venit cu pluta" - am avut şi încă mai am unele relaţii de rudenie şi alt gen de relaţii până "la nivel înalt" ; anul trecut am insistat în mod deosebit pentru (re)lansarea publică a acestei lucrări tehnico-ştiinţifice care a fost bine îngropată,dar m-am trezit cu nişte reacţii virulente din partea unora - mi s-au trântit nişte uşi în nas,mi s-a tăiat finanţarea pe care o aveam,m-am trezit şi cu mesaje dubioase din partea anumitor cercuri de interese - care au început să mă ameninţe mai mult sau mai puţin voalat.Şi uite aşa...
Problema nu este în primul rând aceea a banilor - banii vor veni..,mai mult sau mai puţin ; problema de bază este aceea a acceptului unor sus-puşi de a permite lansarea publică a acestei invenţii cu un deosebit impact economic,social şi...moral.


Energia magnetică se consumă - dar lent ; la magneţii permanenţi de foarte bună calitate sunt necesari ani de zile pentru diminuarea acestei energii.
În privinţa preţului de comercializare - uite ce e... Dacă voi reuşi să scot la lumină şi să lansez public această veche invenţie românească,-aceasta nu se va putea face în definitiv decât cu participarea unor sus-puşi care vor vrea evident să câştige din asta mai mult decât câştigă actualmente din afacerile lor cu gaze naturale,petrol şi mă rog,ce mai învârt ei în prezent... Mă tem că EI vor aranja lucrurile de aşa-natură încât să nu fie prea ieftin.Eu...!?! Eu măcar de-aş reuşi să parcurg etapele menţionate în postările anterioare - să fac din treaba asta o chestiune publică,de aplicare generală în cadrul economiei naţionale : un motor magnetic de acest tip reuşeşte o conversie eficientă a energiei magnetice în energie cinetică,pentru 1 metru-cub de miez magnetic (adică cca.8 tone) realizând 40 MW putere utilă !
Dacă măcar partea juridică o voi rezolva,din acel moment îmi voi putea permite să postez informaţii tehnice detaliate nu doar...susţineri,care pot fi crezute sau nu de către cei ce le citesc.
Oricum,nu-mi serveşte absolut la nimic să mint oamenii pe această temă - mai ales că şi-aşa este internetul deja plin de minciuni şi tot felul de escrocherii... Nu cer bani de la nimeni,chiar dacă avem întradevăr dificultăţi şi din acest punct de vedere - asta este treaba noastră,în cercul restrâns de acum.
O cădere internaţională a pieţei petroliere,vreun nou atentat de mari proporţii sau o lovitură serioasă în interesele companiilor petroliere multinaţionale - ar funcţiona ca un context excelent pentru lansarea acestei afaceri iar grangurii autohtoni s-ar putea arăta brusc mult mai receptivi la aşa-ceva...


Când s-a deschis programul de cercetare colectivul ICEMENERG(de unde era şi inventatorul şi conducătorul programului) şi ICPE,tocmai asta au bătut tam-tam şi pe tema asta au obţinut iniţial aprobările : independenţa energetică a RSR faţă de URSS,de unde importam masiv - ca şi acum de altfel - gaze naturale,etc ; aşa s-a pornit la drum,tocmai în această idee...!
CINE din PCR a intervenit atât de agresiv pentru a zădărnici acest program de asigurare a independenţei totale faţă de URSS !?! Probabil tot aceia care au intervenit câţiva ani mai târziu pentru îndepărtarea lui N.Ceauşescu de la conducerea PCR... Aceia care ne conduc astăzi..,c'est a dire.


Dacă admitem că densitatea unui magnet permanent pe bază de pământuri rare este de 11,5 grame/cmc,şi cum 1 metru-cub are 1.000.000 cmc,rezultă o masă de 11.500 Kg / metru-cub dar 100 Kg înseamnă doar masa unui volum de circa 0,008695652 dintr-un metru-cub ; admiţând valoarea energiei magnetice de 200000 joule/metru-cub,obţinem o valoare de 1739,130435 Joule pentru 0,00869 metri-cubi - cca.178 Kgf . m dar aceasa este o valoare pur teoretică ţinând de puterea intrinsecă a magnetului ; pentru calculul portanţei magnetului se utilizează şi alte elemente de calcul printre care şi suprafaţa străbătută de liniile de câmp ; în cazul unui motor cu magneţi permanenţi această suprafaţă poate fi foarte mare şi aceasta printr-o anumită configurare a pieselor polare şi componentei rotorice străbătute de liniile de câmp.
La magneţii permanenţi pe bază de pământuri rare,inducţia depăşeşte adesea valoarea 15.000 Gauss iar suprafaţa pe care acţionează liniile de câmp depinde de dimensiunea motorului şi felul în care a fost configurat acesta ; în cazul motorului pe care îl am eu în vedere,din capul locului s-a urmărit obţinerea unei valori maxime pentru S,deci geometria componentelor motorului este de aşa-natură.
Dacă avem B=15000 Gs şi S= 300 cmp,forţa dezvoltată este de ordinul 2700 Kgf.

NEXT PART OF THE TEXT

Attached are files as proof that Nicolae Moraru really existed and made PMMs

eu am avut şi am acces la surse de documentare la care dumneata nici să visezi nu ai voie...
Magneţii permanenţi pe bază de pământuri rare au energia specifică (capacitatea de stocare energetică) de cca.200 Kj / metru-cub adică 200.000 Joule / metru-cub,cu intensităţi ale câmplui magnetic generat cuprinse între 9000 şi 15000 Gs.
AceÅŸtia sunt „parametrii de material” â€" stabiliÅ£i convenÅ£ional tocmai pentru a se putea compara între ele proprietăţile magnetice ale diverselor materiale magnetice.
Dacă vrei să calculezi forÅ£a de tracÅ£iune dezvoltată de un magnet sau „forÅ£a portantă” a acestuia â€" aplici formula generală pe care am postat-o deja,ÅŸi care depinde de valoarea câmpului magnetic generat dar ÅŸi suprafaÅ£a pe care acÅ£ionează liniile de câmp (fluxul magnetic,în speţă...) ; valoarea de 200 KiloJoule (...nu 200 Joule) nu reprezintă decât un parametru de calitate magnetică al magneÅ£ilor din pământuri rare,nu o valvoare de calcul pe baza căreia stabileÅŸti forÅ£a portantă sau de tracÅ£iune în cadrul unei aplicaÅ£ii concrete.

1 Kgf.m = 9,80665 Joule = 9,80665 x 10 ^ 7 erg â€" pentru conformitate…


Nota : “ ^ ” â€"semnifică „la puterea...” iar „ x ” este simbolul matematic al operaÅ£iunii de înmulÅ£ire.

Nelămuriri privind relaţia F = ( B / 5000 ) ^ 2 x S !?!

Simplu :
Întrefierul are volumul V = l x S (unde l = distanţa de la polii magnetului la piesa acţionată de acesta ; iar S = suprafaţa străbătută de liniile de câmp)
ÅŸi

energia magnetică utilă este
W = (B^2 x l x S) / (2 x permeabilitatea magnetică)

echivalentul energiei magnetice în lucru mecanic este W = F x l iar 1 Joule = 1 N x m de unde

F = ( B^2 x S ) / ( 2 x permeabilitatea magnetică) în Sistemul Intrnaţional

Dacă trecem în Sistemul Mecanic ,-

F = ( B^2 x 10^-8 x S x 10^-4 ) / ( 2 x 1,256 x 10^-6 x 9,80665 ) adică aproximativ â€"

F = [( B / 5000 ) ^2] x S în (Kgf) cu B în gauss şi S în centimetri-pătraţi.



Încă de la debutul activităţii de cercetare pe această temă - în 1973 - s-a lucrat în paralel pe ambele scheme : cu magneţi permanenţi şi cu electromagneţi ; în final a câştigat "partida" modelul cu electromagneţi deoarece pentru o anumită forţă dezvoltată este mult mai compact şi cu masă totală mai redusă ; se poate merge şi pe schema cu magneţi permanenţi dar pentru o putere dată va fi necesară o cantitate şi un volum mult mai mare de magnet ; doar dacă se lucrează cu cele mai bune aliaje de pământuri rare (materiale foarte scumpe...) situaţia s-ar mai putea echilibra într-o anumită măsură. Electromagneţii,deşi necesită surse de cc pentru excitare secvenţială,dezvoltă puteri mari şi sunt cu mult mai ieftini decât magneţii permanenţi ; mai grav,în schema inventatorului român la care m-am referit,piesele polare ale motorului sunt polarizate pe o direcţie atipică magneţilor care se produc acum la ROFEP-Urziceni ; pentru a produce în România magneţii necesari acestui motor,ar trebui mai întâi realizate în fabrică matriţele de turnare a aliajului şi polarizare magnetică...

Deci,pe scurt - răspunsul este DA,se poate doar cu magneţi permanenţi dar în definitiv,nu este avantajos.


După modelul forţei electrostatice şi a celei gravitaţionale,considerate ca "forţă centrală" ,- forţa conservativă acţionează asupra unui punct material aflat într-un câmp de forţe şi depinde numai de poziţia acestui punct material,nu şi de masa sau acceleraţia lui ;
or,valoarea forţei (electro)magnetice depinde şi de viteza şi masa (ori sarcina electrică) a punctului material...
Iată de ce,în opinia mea,forţa magnetică nu poate fi considerată ca "forţă conservativă"...

De pildă,forţa (electro)magnetică ce acţionează asupra unui purtător de sarcină este dată de produsul vestorial dintre viteza particulei şi valoarea inducţiei magnetice aplicate,dar şi sarcina electrică a acestei particule (care depinde de masa sa) - iată deci o forţă magnetică (Lorentz) a cărei valoare este direct dependentă de viteza şi masa punctului material asupra căreia acţionează...
Addenda :
forţa (electro)magnetică este dependentă de valoarea câmpului şi inducţiei magnetice,iar aceasta din urma depinde totodată de sursa de câmp magnetic şi de proprietăţile mediului înconjurător - o altă caracteristică antagonistă definiţiei teoretice a forţei conservative.
Energia magnetică este un parametru de material - specific fiecărui material magnetic - şi care se exprimă funcţie de unitatea de volum a (electro)magnetului ; câmpul magnetic este determinat tot de calitatea magnetului şi ar putea fi considerat ca format din forţe conservative (liniile de câmp având o geometrie închisă,determinată spaţial iar valoarea câmpului generat de un magnet nedepunzând de punctul material asupra căruia acţionează ci de distanţa la care acesta se află ; inducţia magnetică este însă dependentă de mediul ambiant şi de proprietăţile punctului magnetic iar forţa magnetică generată în niciun caz nu poate fi considerată conservativă.
Câmpul magnetic - da ;
inducţia magnetică - nu ;
forţa (electromagnetică) - nu.


ca şi în cazul câmpului electric sau gravitaţional,câmpul magnetic este vectorial dar este şi determinat de intensitatea sursei sale ; o forţă conservativă acţionează asupra unui punct material aflat într-un câmp de forţe şi depinde numai de poziţia acestuia,nu de masa şi acceleraţia sa.Din punct de vedere al configuraţiei,este o forţă centrală - deci este caracterizată printr-un centru de forţă.Totuşi,câmpul magnetic are o geometrie aparte - liniile de câmp se distribuie în cercuri concentrice în jurul unui conductor electric,tot în cercuri şi faţă de centrul magnetului(ieşind prin polii acestuia)geometrie care desparte în mod clar forţele ce generează câmpul magnetic de modelul "forţelor centrale" care acţionează drept ,suportul forţei acţionând permanent printr-un punct fix şi depinzând doar de distanţa până la acel punct care este centrul de forţă ; or în cazul câmpului magnetic,acţiunea liniilor de forţă nu este dreaptă şi nu depinde doar de distanţa punctului material ci şi de poziţia polilor,de natura punctului material,a mediul ambiant,etc.
Forţe centrale care în mod clar sunt conservative,ar fi forţa gravitaţională sau cea electrică. Câmpul magnetic este format din linii de forţă dar care sunt curbe concentrice cu ieşirea pe la polul sud şi intrarea pe la nord - deci nu se poate spune că un câmp magnetic ar fi o "forţă centrală" - cum este cea a câmpului electric,gravitaţional,etc.
Forţa conservativă acţionează asupra unui punct material aflat într-un câmp de forţe depinzând numai de poziţia acestuia şi are acelaşi modul şi direcţie cu potenţialul scalar,dar sens invers,iar în cazul deplasării punctului material lucrul mecanic efectuat va depinde numai de poziţia iniţială şi finală a punctului,nu şi de forma traiectoriei sale.
Potenţialul scalar în cazul câmpului magnetic este chiar potenţialul magnetic,acesta depinzând de poziţia punctului material şi deci de punctul în care se aplică vectorul ; direcţia forţei este aceiaşi cu a vectorului .
Lucrul mecanic este întradevăr legat de poziţia iniţială şi cea finală a punctului material asupra căruia se acţionează...

Deci,câmpul magnetic ar trebui totuşi să poată fi considerat ca format dintr-o sumă de forţe conservative,cu toate că există mai multe neregularităţi relativ la modelul teoretic al forţei conservative şi faţă de "forţele centrale",care în mod clar sunt conservative.

Aşadar,după cum vedeţi din raţionamentul de mai sus - există argumente pro şi contra.Am încercat să vă răspund utilizând cunoştinţele mele generale şi...logica. Pentru astfel de probleme de teorie abstractă vă recomand să vă adresaţi totuşi unui teoretician de meserie,dosarele de cercetare privind motorul magnetic - pe care eu le deţin - neconţinând astfel de teorie ci...aspecte mult mai practice ; configurarea geometrică a pieselor polare,relaţiile de calcul,tabelare cu parametrii înregistraţi,etc.
iată şi părerea celor de la wikipedia :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_force
Dar nu băga mâna în foc... Dacă ai cercetat atent raţionamentul meu - există argumente pro şi contra. Câmpul magnetic are o geometrie cu totul şi cu totul aparte,chiar dacă seamănă în unele privinţe cu alte câmpuri fizice...
Mai mult,nu trebuie să confunzi ideea de "conservare a energiei" cu incapacitatea acelei energii de a produce lucru mecanic asupra unui punct material pe care acţionează...
Vezi dumneata,Soarele îşi păstrează energia gravitaţională - dar cu acest câmp gravitaţional învârte atâtea corpuri cereşti în jurul său,dezvoltând un lucru mecanic foarte mare.
Atât forţa gravitaţională,cât şi cea electrică sau magnetica,pot fi considerate forţe conservative - cu toate acestea ele dezvoltă lucru mecanic asupra unor corpuri,fără ca asta să presupună consumarea forţei electrice sau gravitaţionale sau magnetice...


Pentru toţi aceia care doresc să-şi construiască un vehicul tractat magnetic (electric) dar fără ca pentru aceasta să aibă pretenţa de a accede la documentaţie nepublică ,- continui să recomand "motorul cu reluctanţă variabilă" şi în special varianta ameliorată a acestui tip de motor (electro)magnetic,realizată încă de la finele anilor'60 de către fraţii Jean şi Jaques Jarret.Pentru aceasta,o valoroasă lucrare de documentare care oferă formulele şi metodele de calcul inclusiv exemple de calcul şi proiectare,este "Motoare sincrone cu magneţi permanenţi şi reluctanţă variabilă" întocmită de conf.dr.ing.Răzvan Măgureanu şi ing.Nicolae Vasile,lucrare apărută în Editura Tehnică 1982.
Faţă de informaţiile din cadrul acestei lucrări,puteţi adăuga pe acelea venite din partea brevetelor fraţilor Jarret (pe care din câte ştiu le-am postat chiar eu pe acest topic) pentru a obţine o variantă perfecţionată a motorului magnetic cu reluctanţă variabilă. Aceste motoare pot fi compacte şi puternice,fiind destul de fiabile pentru a-şi găsi aplicaţii în domeniul propulsiei, pentru motociclete,vehicule electrocinetice uşoare pe care amatorii le pot proiecta după nivelul lor de imaginaţie şi de cunoştinţe tehnice.
Evident,pentru o anumită putere generată,astfel de motoare trebuiesc alimentate de la o sursă de curent capabilă se ofere cu cca.15-20% mai multă putere,sursă capabilă a fi îmbarcată de către vehicolul respectiv.
Recomand acumulatorul plumb-acid de tip bipolar (nesulfatabil) cu electrozi granulaţi şi electrolit gelatinat , acumulator care poate fi cu uşurinţă construit artizanal folosind materii prime şi materiale recuperate de la bateriile acumulator Pb-acid clasice,degradate.Nu le aruncaţi ! Recuperaţi din ele măcar grătarele de Plumb (chiar dacă acestea dunt degradate...) pentru că veţi putea granula aceste grătare şi face din ele un alt acumulator Pb-acid,mult mai performant decât cel clasic şi pe deasupra nesulfatabil...
Acest tip perfecţionat de acumulator Pb-acid de tip bipolar,are proprietatea de a avea o mare capacitate de stocare raportată la masă (Kwh/Kg sau mai des se exprimă în Ah/Kg) deci pentru o anumită greutate are putere mult mai mare decât un acumulator clasic ; mai mult - nu necesită acele masive şi foarte grele "bac"-uri de plumb turnat,la acesta electrozii şi electrolitul (gelatinos) putând fi amplasate în recipiente uşoare din materiale plastice sau aluminiu (aluminiul fiind singurul metal comun şi larg utilizat,care nu este atacat de acidul sulfuric de slabă concentraţie) deci mai mult de 90% din masa unui acumulator dinacesta este reprezentată de către sistemul electrozi-electrolit,adică generatorul electrochimic propriu-zis...
Menţionez că acest tip de acumulator a fost inventat şi experimentat încă din anul 1969,în România,de către acelaşi inginer şi inventator care a făcut şi "motorul magnetic" despre care am vorbit eu pe acest topic,atât cât mi-am permis să vorbesc.
Dacă vă construiţi acasă un vehicul cu motor magnetic de reluctanţă variabilă de tip Jarret,îl veţi putea alimenta cu un astfel de acumulator - al are să vă ofere o autonomie de câteva ore şi motorul poate dezvolta 100-130 Km/h ; în plus,un acumulator Pb-acid de tip bipolar cu electrozi granulaţi şi electrolit gelatinos se poate reîncărca într-un interval de timp cu mult mai scurt decât acumulatorii clasici.


Te referi probabil la aşa-numitele "magnetic shields"... Am văzut numeroase scheme bazate pe intercalarea de magnetic shields între piesele polare statorice şi rotorice ; niciuna cu adevărat funcţională...
Cunosc cel puţin doi ingineri din Bucureşti care de ani de zile se zbat să pună la punct o schemă funcţională de asemenea motor cu scuturi magnetice,şi este vorba de persoane...bine puse în temă,care lucrează la OSIM şi sunt la curent cu tot ceea ce apare nou pe piaţa internaţională ; cel puţin unul dintre ei a cheltuit până acum sume mari de bani în încercarea de a găsi o astfel de soluţie,încercând toate schemele posibile,inclusiv cele de pe net,oferite de către aceia care se laudă că au găsit secretul.Cât despre mine,-nu am fost de acord să le dau nimic din informaţia pe care o deţin ; cel puţin câtă vreme nu îmi oferă un statut bine determinat în cadrul afacerilor pe care le învârt ei...
Aşa cum am arătat încă din prima mea postare pe acest topic - vă pierdeţi timpul şi banii cu acele "magnetic shields" ; nu aici stă ascuns secretul motorului magnetic... Cred că am mai precizat faptul că în veritabilul motor magnetic liniile de câmp sunt perfect închise în cadrul unui jug (deci nu sunt deflectate sau împiedicate să parcurgă traseul lor normal...) care conţine piesele polare statorice considerate componenta activă a motorului iar elementul rotoric ce nu are niciun fel de magnet pe el este componenta reactivă.Chestia asta descrisă aici de mine în câteva cuvinte este complet în afara oricărei scheme clasice şi nici nu o găseşti în noianul de brevete şi alte "minunăţii" care sunt pe internet.
În ultimii trei ani am fost ba ademenit cu tot felul de promisiuni,ba ameninţat,ba insultat,etc - în speranţa că voi da pe gratis ceea ce nu este şi nici nu poate fi gratis ; dacă se va scoate într-un final la suprafaţă chestia asta,se va face doar în mod cinstit,prin forme contractuale şi evident,pe bani grei...
Am mai postat aici ultimul brevet în materie de "magnetic shield" - Ok,îl mai postez încă odată dacă tot se mai crede în formula asta ; dar,vă asigur că aceia care au încercat pe banii lor să reproducă asemenea scheme,n-au reuşit să scoată de la rotor mai mult de o rotaţie şi jumătate.Cel mult...


Funcţionează prin interacţiunea de câmpuri magnetice şi respectiv prin variaţia reluctanţei magnetice,utilizând curentul electric pentru excitaţia miezului magnetic şi schimbarea alternativă de polaritate la cel puţin una din piesele polare ale motorului - schimbare necesară căci altfel nu s-ar putea roti partea rotorică.
Nu mă interesează "invenţiile" prezentate pe internet - în repetate rânduri,în toate afirmaţiile mele (inclusiv din postările de pe acest forum) am contestat aceste lucrări,ca fiind realmente nefuncţionale ; în acest sens,nu trebuiesc decât citite atent postările subsemnatului,nu este nevoie de călătoria transdimensională în vreun alt univers.
"Motoarele magnetice" ( - am pus ghilimele pentru că această noţiune nici măcar nu a fost şi nu este bine precizată până în momentul de faţă...) pe care le am eu în vedere şi dintre care unul este deja realizat,sunt acestea două :
- varianta de motor realizată în anul 1973 de către un colectiv de specialişti români sub numele de "motor electric pe pernă magnetică" - dosarul de cercetare 00.78406/12.04.1974 şi în varianta perfecţionată ,- dosar nr.00.83463/26.09.1975 sub denumirea de "procedeu şi agregat pentru propulsarea vehiculelor mototerestre cu energie electrică" şi nr.00.99510 / 12.12.1979 cu titlul "motor electric cu pernă magnetică" ; varianta aceasta reprezintă un motor electric mult înbunătăţit,la care a fost modificată geometria aplicării liniilor de câmp şi s-a redus mult masa bobinajului de excitaţie necesar,inclusiv energia electrică cheltuită pentru excitarea secvenţială a pieselor rotorice ; am un singur exemplar de asemenea motor,de dimensiuni reduse ; este o variantă mult ameliorată a "motorului electric" clasic ; pentru excitarea pieselor polare ale motorului se utilizează acumulatoare Plumb-acid cu electrozi granulaţi şi electrolit gelations,surse compacte de cc de mare capacitate,masă foarte redusă (comparativ cu acumulatoarele Pb-acid clasice care sunt foarte grele) şi autonomie bună ;
- varianta de motor realizată cu începere din anul 1983 în cadrul dosarului cu titlul "maşina cu mişcare rotativă acţionată cu energie pur magnetică",dar şi dosarul 00.148.800/22.11.1991 privind "maşina rotativă de curent continuu fără colector" ;

toate aceste motoare ,fie că au reprezentat ameliorări ale schemelor clasice ,fie că au aplicat scheme cu totul noi,au reprezentat rezultatul muncii de cercetare a unui colectiv format din oameni bine pregătiţi în acest domeniu şi ale căror lucrări au stat şi stau în cea mai mare parte sub regim clasificat ; sunt motoare care merg potrivit legilor cunoscute ale fizicii şi aplicând în mare parte relaţiile de calcul cunoscute,atâta doar că rezultatele obţinute sunt mult mai bune în acest caz...
Funcţionarea unui astfel de motor se face în cadrul universului tridimensional specific dimensiunii materiale,nefiind deci nevoie de vreo "tranziţie dimensională" sau "trecerea în hiperspaţiu",etc,etc.

Singura problemă este că nu pot discuta acum despre aceste lucruri,pentru că ar însemna să dau cu şutul în propriile mele interese (materiale) , în plus fiind necesar să mă asigur că nu deranjez pe nimeni din mai-marii zilei ; ah,am uitat să fac o precizare - offtopic- : orice afacere de mare anvergură ai vrea să începi în România,trebuie acceptată de către un anumit cerc de potentaţi,care încârt afaceri de proporţie naţională şi internaţională - în special acelea cu petrol şi gaze naturale,dar şi cu alcool şi tutun,importuri alimentare, "privatizări cu cântec", afaceri imobiliare,etc,etc.
Ä,ÅŸtia sunt cei care zic DA sau NU.


Dosarele având codificările pe care le-am trecut în cadrul unei postări precedente,nu sunt de pe net sau alte baze publice de date.
de pildă dosarul nr.00 - 46150 din 1963 cu titlul "Procedeu şi instalaţie electronică de apărare antiaeriană şi anticosmică", are explicată până în cel mai mic amănunt tehnica războiului climateric şi geofizic, inclusiv tabelarele conţinând observaţiile experimentale


1,- Nu.În 1983-1984 eu nu eram implicat sub nicio formă în aşa-ceva fiind la acea vreme şi mult prea tânăr pentru a mi se permite un astfel de amestec ; abia după 1993 (după decesul inventatorului care era şi conducătorul echipei de cercetare) am primit accesul la acest dosar şi abia după anul 2003 mi-am putut permite să încerc punerea în practică a lucrării respective - în anul 2004 am participat la o sesiune de comunicări ştiinţifice organizată de OSIM prilej cu care am ţinut o alocuţiune referitoare la acest inventator şi lucrările sale deosebite,complet necunoscute publicului larg ; ulterior am lucrat în plan strict privat pentru realizarea unei replici experimentale de mici dimensiuni,care s-a şi realizat prin 2006.Lucrarea aceasta s-a făcut în două variante - una din 1973,cealaltă din 1983.Varianta simplă (1973) am putut-o replica,la cealaltă încă lucrez.
2,-Despre testările pe Dacia şi TV din 1983-1984,nu ştiu decât din cadrul documentaţiei pe care am parcurs-o şi care conţine totalitatea observaţiilor ce s-au făcut pe tot timpul experimentării,note de mână ale inginerilor din echipa respectivă,câteva fotografii alb-negru,etc. Ştiu că toate mijloacele experimentale au fost ridicate de către Direcţia a IV-a dar nu cunosc soarta finală a acestor obiecte şi unde se află ele în momentul de faţă,dacă mai există.
3,- Da.Ştiu că invenţia a fost vândută prin intermediul ICE Crescent care a negociat şi încheiat contractul,banii fiind trecuţi în contul ICE Dunărea ulterior. Cumpărătorul a fost o firmă fictivă din SUA iar banii cu care s-a plătit proveneau din conturi guvernamentale.Este treaba cumpărătorului de ce a cumpărat aşa-ceva şi ce are de gând să facă...
Nu mă deranjează această situaţie pentru că brevetul s-a eliberat mai târziu de către România,iar vânzarea respectivă este din mai multe direcţii lovită de nulitate absolută - proprietatea intelectuală şi recunoaşterea juridică a acesteia au apărut mai târziu iar documentele oficiale nu au făcut obiectul vreunei alte tranzacţii ; s-au vândut aşadar nişte informaţii tehniceca atare,nu un patent sau o licenţă de fabricaţie... Dacă s-ar fi procedat la vânzarea unui brevet existent sau la cedarea unei licenţe - atunci dpdv juridic,n-aş avea niciun drept în faţa americanilor.Dar nu este cazul.


Acum,puţină istorie...ilustrată ; aşa cum am mai spus,încă de la finele anilor '60,un colectiv de ingineri-cercetători români sub conducerea lui N.Moraru a pus la punct o sursă electrochimică posibil atât primară cât şi secundară (acumulator) care deşi era bazată tot pe clasicele reacţii electrochimice plumb - acid sulfuric - sulfat de plumb,era nesulfatabilă,uşoară,de putere mult mai mare raportată la masa activă (electrozi-electrolit) şi nici nu necesita acel clasic bac de plumb al bateriilor Pb-Acid clasice (aşa cum sunt acestea şi în clipa de faţă...) : este vorba de "sursa electrochimică bipolară cu electrozi granulaţi şi electrolit gelatinos" - lucrare de cercetare-dezvoltare care s-a desfăşurat cu acordul şi deplinul suport al autorităţilor de atunci,pentru care s-a decis "scoaterea din producţie" a inginerilor angrenaţi în această activitate şi totodată li s-a pus la dispoziţie uzina Acumulatorul,pentru construcţie şi testări - postez aici o serie de documente referitoare la evenimentele descrise mai sus.
Deja în 1970 aveam o sursă electrochimică secundară de mare putere,uşoară şi fiabilă,nesulfatabilă,prevăzută cu electrozi bipolari sub formă granulată şi electrolit gelations,capabilă de a funcţiona în regim de descărcare fără niciun pericol ; imediat după aceasta,deci începând cu 1971,acelaşi colectiv care se ocupase cu ducerea la bun sfârşit a programului de cercetare pentru îmbunătăţirea acumulatorului Pb-Acid,a trecut la un alt program de cercetare privind remotorizarea Daciei 1300 (creaţie din 1969 a industriei româneşti constructoare de maşini) astfel încât motorul sub licenţă Renault (de la care se păstra şi adapta cutia de viteze)să fie în mare parte înlocuit cu un motor neconvenţional de producţie integral românească,alimentat cu energie electrică provenită de la acumulatorii perfecţionaţi de care am amintit mai înainte.
La început s-a venit cu ideea utilizării unui motor electric preluat de la un motostivuitor electric,şi adaptat ; la început s-a mers pe această soluţie,dar au fost necesare 30-40 baterii-acumulator de tipul celuor amintite mai sus,care,deşi erau foarte uşoare în comparaţie cu acelea clasice,totuşi ocupau volum mare,făcând portbagajul inpracticabil... În plus,după descărcare necesitau circa 6 ore pentru o reîncărcare completă - mult mai puţin decât la o baterie-acumulator clasică,dar încă prea mult pentru un vehicul care să poată înlocui cu succes vehiculele clasice cu motoare termice...
Situaţia de mai sus era cea de la nivelul lui 1971 ; după ce s-a constatat că soluţia iniţială nu este mulţumitoare,s-a încercat aplicarea motorului cu reluctanţă variabilă de tip Jarret,care pe atunci era o apariţie relativ recentă în lumea ştiinţifică.
Calculaţia pentru motorul cu reluctanţă variabilă a fost realizată şi s-a concluzionat că deşi acest tip de motor este mult mai compact şi mai fiabil decât alte motoare electrice,el nu rezolvă problema pe fond - fiind încă necesar un număr mare de acumulatori care ocipă un volum mare şi nu se pot reîncărca foarte repede.
Astfel,încă din 1972 activitatea de cercetare s-a reorientat către perfecţionarea motorului electric clasic,în sensul reducerii masive a consumului de energie electrică. Pentru aceasta logica spune că trebuie înbunătăţit randamentul transformării în lucru mecanic a forţei electromagnetice dezvoltate prin interacţiunea câmpurilor învârtitoare dezvoltate de către stator (cel mai adesea) cu câmpul indus în rotor.
Până în 1973,cercetarea a condus la obţinerea unui motor electric la care felul şi configuraţia interacţiunii câmpurilor magnetice de pe stator şi rotor nu mai semăna cu nicio schemă clasică a niciunui tip de motor electric realizat public până atunci sau de-atunci şi până astăzi : a fost numit "motorul electric cu pernă magnetică" ; acest motor nu mai era propriu-zis "alimentat" cu energie electrică,ci doar excitat secvenţial,curentul electric alimentând aparatura auxiliară a motorului,nu piesele polare propriu-zise.Aceasta a condus imediat la uşurarea deosebită a pieselor polare care s-au văzut eliberate de masivele bobinaje pe care le cunoaştem din tehnica motoarelor electrice clasice.
În acest fel,curentul electric alimentând doar aparatura de comutaţie secvenţială,cantitatea de curent electric absorbită, a scăzut foarte mult şi motorul de cca.42 CP a putut fi "alimentat" cu doar 3-4 baterii-acumulator (varianta perfecţionată de acumulator,de care am vorbit mai sus) ; "motorul pe pernă magnetică" a echipat Dacia 1300 încă din 1973 iar rezultatele au fost impresionante ! Cu titlu general,menţionez că motorul pe pernă magnetică nu utilizează clasică pereche inductor- indus ci pereche inductor-inductor (element inductor pe stator dar şi pe rotor la fel)cele două piese polare având tendinţa de a se induce reciproc,fapt care nu se poate petrece,formându-se astfel "perna magnetică".
Ulterior,începând cu 1981 şi până în 1984,a fost realizată o variantă perfecţionată a acestui motor electric cu pernă magnetică,variantă la care curentul electric de excitaţie putea fi asigurat de un singur acumulator,"perna magnetică" fiind cea care realiza lucrul mecanic şi deci,tracţiunea.
Ulterior,activitatea de cercetare din cadrul acestui dosar a culminat cu lucrarea ce a purtat denumirea "Maşină rotativă (motor) cu energie pur magnetică" - varianta cea mai avansată a acestui motor.
În ataşement sunt nişte extrase din cadrul maculatorului personal al şefului de echipă ; sorry,dar nu mi-am putut permite să scanez nimic din documentaţia "oficială",pentru că în aceasta apar prea multe amănunte deranjante - denumiri de persoane,ştampile,numere de înregistrare,numele unor ofiţeri,etc - ar fi trebuit să cenzurez foile până ajungeau ilizibile...
În maculator,şeful de echipă şi-a făcut o serie de notiţe privind planificările din cadrul acestei activităţi,ordinea operaţiunilor, câteva desene privind carcasa,capacele sau alte elemente "auxiliare" ale motorului,etc,etc.

"motorul electric pe pernă magnetică" din 1973,varianta modernizată a acestuia realizată în 1983 şi ulterior,"motorul cu energie pur magnetică",sunt opera unui colectiv de cercetare format din ingineri specializaţi şi care a pornit practic de la motorul electric clasic - s-au pus pe hârtie toate caracteristicile negative sau limitative ale acestui motor şi rând pe rând, pentru fiecare impediment s-a venit cu soluţii ; această muncă a durat ani buni şi a însemnat mii de încercări şi modificări ale schemelor,combinaţii între soluţiile propuse,etc ; nicio clipă acestor cercetători nu le-a trecut prin minte să...încalce legile fizicii ; ei şi-au dat seama că -
a,- trebuie modificată schema clasică inductor-indus cu o schemă de tip inductor-inductor,în întrefierul acestora formându-se ceea ce ei au denumit "perna magnetică" ;
b,- trebuie eliberat rotorul de masivele încărcături de bobinaj specifice tahnicii clasice a motorului electric ;
c,- alternanţa interacţiunilor de câmp magnetic dintre stator şi rotor,comutaţia şi comanda mişcării de rotaţie trebuie să vină de la un aparat auxiliar motorului propriu-zis,neimplicând direct piesele polare,deci au eliberat piesele polare de bobinaj lăsându-le să formeze doar "perna magnetică",iar alternanţa polarităţilor magnetice au trimis-o către un auxiliar al motorului,acesta fiind cel care necesita alimentare cu curent electric de excitaţie secvenţială,nu unul care să fie utilizat "în tracţiune",ca la "motoarele electrice" clasice ;
d,- în acest fel au uşurat foarte mult masa pieselor polare raportat la puterea motorului,prin eliberarea acestora de masivele şi costisitoarele bobinaje pe care le cunoaştem din tehnica clasică ; au format o interacţiune magnetică permanentă între stator şi rotor,dar fără ca aceasta să presupună apariţia unor forţe contraelectromotoare,aplicarea vreunei scheme de tip inductor-indus (cu toate marile dezavantaje pe care aceasta le aduce...) ; au repartizat problema alternanţei de polaritate,a comutaţiei secvenţiale,etc - către un auxiliar al motorului,deci practic au despărţit tracţiunea de alternanţa polarităţii magnetice, ş.a.m.d.
e,- nicio clipă şi sub nicio formă,inginerii din componenţa acestui colectiv de cercetare nu a încălcat vreo lege a fizicii,vreun principiu elementar sau mai-ştiu-eu-ce de felul ăsta ; ei au plecat de la schema motorului electric clasic pe care progresiv l-au tot perfecţionat până ce au ajuns după aproape 20 de ani... la cu totul altceva decât motorul iniţial.


am absolvit într-adevăr Facultatea de Drept după care m-am îndreptat către Ingineria Aerospaţială ; în domeniul sistemelor de propulsie am lucrat în plan neoficial încă de prin 1988-1989 şi cu timpul am acumulat multe cunoştinţe în acest domeniu.



- pentru magnetizarea sa nu s-a cheltuit energia care se poate scoate - dacă este vorba de un magnet permanent ; în privinţa modului în care sunt fabricaţi magneţii permanenţi cu remanenţă de să zicem 10 ani,de menţionat că nu este necesară pe timpul fabricaţiei introducerea în ei a echivalentului puterii electrice corespunzătoare teoretic forţei dezvoltate de magnet timp de 10 ani şi a cărei valoare să fie transformată în unităţi electrice ; valoarea aceea de 40 Mw/mc este transformarea în unităţi electrice a forţei pe care o poate dezvolta o anumită masă de material magnetic la motorul lui N.Moraru ; dacă vorbim de magnet permanent,fabricarea sa constă în realizarea şi topirea aliajului urmată de supunerea acestuia la un câmp (coercitiv) de magnetizare ; pentru aliajele de pământuri rare valoarea acestuia este de 256 Kj / metru-cub ; odată obţinut acest metru-cub de magnet,prin utilizarea lui timp de o oră în cadrul motorului Moraru,el nu urmează "să-şi cheltuie" energia magnetică iar dacă am admite că funcţionează timp de 10 ani,asta nu înseamnă că în procesul de fabricare trebuie introdusă energia electrică de valoarea corespunzătoare celor 10 ani cât avem remanenţa presupusă a magnetului ; energia magnetică nu se cheltuie,dar ea întradevăr scade în timp potrivit cu calitatea materialului ori supunerea acestuia unor factori de demagnetizare ;

magnetismul este un fenomen produs de un concurs de forţe subatomice care acţionează la nivelul electronilor şi nucleului atomic - respectiv de către momentele magnetice care la rându-le corespund momentelor de spin şi momentelor cinetice orbitale ; temperatura şi deci agitaţia termică,influenţează evident acest fenomen - vezi "punctul Curie" ; explicarea fenomenului magnetismului natural ca rezultat pur "al energiei electrice" este hazardată şi inadmisibilă într-o analiză serioasă ; faptul că fenomenul magnetismului (natural) îşi are originea la nivel electronic (purtătorii elementari de sarcină electrică) precum şi numeroasele interdependenţe dintre electricitate şi magnetism,ca fenomene practic complementare,nu dă magnetismului ca fenomen fizic,o origine pur electrică - aşa cum am arătat mai sus,la producerea magnetismului (ca fenomen) concură o sumă de forţe deosebite,printre care este adevărat,şi momentul magnetic orbital al electronului,care printr-o convenţie de calcul este considerat echivalent cu momentul magnetic al unui curent circular de intensitate I care circulă pe o spiră circulară de suprafaţă S ;

denumirea de "motor electric" este întradevăr improprie cu toate că alimentarea acestor motoare este întradevăr electrică ; câmpurile dezvoltate de pachetele polare statorice şi rotorice sunt totuşi magnetice,astfel de motoare funcţionând pe principiul "câmpului magnetic învârtitor" ;
- mai sunt cel puţin două categorii de energii care se pun "în valoare" - energia cinetică a electronului şi energia nucleară de legătură dintre nucleul atomic şi electronul considerat ; alături de ceea ce se cheamă momentul magnetic orbital al electronului,toate acestea participă la crearea fenomenului de magnetism ;

Magnetismul este un fenomen ca ia naştere încă din structura intimă a atomului şi care este legat de momentul magnetic orbital al electronului,de spinul(moment cinetic asociat mişcării de rotaţie) electronului şi de anizotropia materialului respectiv,felul reţelei cristaline,etc.
Până la ora actuală doar în epoca modernă s-au încercat mai multe teorii în vedere explicării complete a fenomenului intim (subatomic) denumit magnetism,dar toate aceste teorii în gene-ral sunt incomplete sau inexacte,şi aceasta deoarece presupun şi participarea unor fenomene generatoare complexe care au loc la nivelul subnuclear şi care formează momentul magnetic nuclear.Nu este nicio îndoială asupra faptului că fenomenele de electricitate şi magnetism sunt complementare,dar naşterea magnetismului ca fenomen intim subatomic nu poate fi totuşi considerat de origine strict,exclusiv electrică.
ÃŽn ce priveÅŸte forÅ£a de legătură care uneÅŸte electronii de nucleul atomic,aceasta chiar ÅŸi la ora actuală face obiectul unor discuÅ£ii aprinse la nivelul lumii ÅŸtiinÅ£ifice,în ultimii ani apărând ÅŸi noÅ£iunea de « energie liberă » precum ÅŸi o serie de teorii mai mult sau mai puÅ£in contestabile.
Aşa cum am mai arătat,nu poate nimeni la ora actuală să afirme categoric,dogmatic,originea clară şi definitivă a fenomenului magnetismului,cum nici fenomenul gravitaţiei nu a fost com-plet explicat,ci doar conexiunile sale,modul de manifestare,etc.
Aşadar,toate aceste teorii sunt ipoteze,care sunt admise şi pe care se merge la un moment dat, dar fără ca explicaţiile sau argumentele din cuprinsul acestor ipoteze teoretice să fie complete ori în măsură de a explica întreg fenomenul studiat.
Ştim despre interdependenţa dintre curent electric şi magnetism,dintre masă şi gravitaţie,dar dacă vorbim despre originea acestor fenomene şi ceea ce stă la baza naşterii lor,teoriile cu mai sunt complete şi nu au reuşit până acum să cadă de acord asupra unei formule definitive şi ca-re să asigure toate explicaţiile necesare,sub toate aspectele.


MATERIALE magnetice -Memoriu justificativ Pentru ca lumea in care traim este un “camp magnetic” dar pentru ca nu exista o definitie clara ,pentru a intelege mai bine acest termen incepem prin a explica prin ochii energetici,electrotehnici si tehnologiei avansate tehnicile prin care campul magnetic este produs de magneti permanenti si de conductoare care sunt parcurse de curent electric. Motivul alegerii acestei teme consta in faptul ca exista multe situatii in care diferite actiunii nu pot fi explicate,in cazul acesta studiind acesta stiinta vom afla ca de exemplu campul magnetic poseda energie si exercita forte asupra altor magneti. (Eh...) Campul magnetic depinde in functie de compozitia magnetica a acestor materiale, iar compozitia lor se urmareste la rolul ei in functie de ce anume se doreste a se obtine. Fierul constituie materialul,baza, celor mai multe campuri magnetice, acesta fiind la randul lor diversificate. Generalitati : De o deosebita importanta si strans legata de intelegerea proprietatilor magnetice ale materialelor este notiunea de camp magnetic. Campul magnetic este produs de magnetii permanenti si de conductoare parcurse de curent electric. Campul magnetic posedea energie si exercita forte asupra altor magneti sau conductoare parcurse de curentul electric. Pentru determinarea starii de magnetizare a corpurilor sunt necesare doua marimi: -intensitatea campului magnetic H,masurat in A/m; -inductia magnetica B produsa de campul magnetic,masurat in tesla (T)=weber/metro patrat (Wb/m&sup2;). Raportul dintre inductia magnetica B si intensitatea campului magnetic H se numeste permeabilitate magnetica absoluta si se noteaza cu μ .Ea are valori diferite pentru diferite materiale,la acelasi camp magnetic: μ =B/H sau B= μH. Permeabiliatea magnetica absoluta se exprima in weber/ampermetru (Wb A*m) sau henry/metru (H/m). Pentru aceeasi intensitate a campului magnetic,raportul dintre permeabilitatea absoluta μ a unui mediu material oarecare si permeabiliatea absoluta a vidului μ0 (practice egala cu a aerului) si se numeste permaeabilitate magnetica relative a materialului si se noteaza cu μr : μr = μ/ μâ,€, Permeabilitatea absoluta μâ,€ a vidului este o marime constanta egala cu 4 Ï€ * 10 Ö¿ ⁷ H/m Permeabilitaea magnetica relativa לr este o constanta de material,fara unitate de masura. Clasificarea materialelor electrotehnice din punct de vedere magnetic In functie de valoarea permeabilitatii magnetice relative לr .materialele electrotehnice se clasifica in MATERIALE : -diamagnetice (ל<1); -paramagnetice(ל~1); -feromagnetice(ל>1); Materialele diamagnetice sunt:hidrogenul,carbonul,argintul,aurul,cuprul,zincul,germaniul,seleniul,siliciu
l etc.Ele au permeabilitate magnetica relative subunitara , foarte aproape de unitate. Materialele paramagnetice sunt :oxigenul,aluminiul,cromul,platina,manganul,radiul,potasiul etc.Ele au permeabilitate magnetica relative supraunitara , foarte apropiata de unitate. Materialele feromagnetice sunt:fierul ,cobaltul ,nichelul , gadoliniul si aliaje.Ele au permeabilitate magnetica relative mult mai mare decat unitatea ,ajungand la valori peste 100000. Materialele feromagnetice sunt cunoscute sub denumirea de MATERIALE magnetice. Aceste matriale isi pierd complet proprietatile magnetice la temperature Curie,care este de 769⁰C pentru fier,1075⁰C pentru cobalt, 360⁰C pentru nichel si intre 60 si 380⁰C pentru aliaje,in functie de compozitie. Conform teoriei magnetismului molecular , materialele magnetice se compun dintr-un numar foarte mare de magneti extreme de mici â€" magneti moleculari. Intr-un material nemagnetizat,magnetii moleculari sunt asezati in dezordine .Prin magnetizare,magnetii moleculari se orienteaza succesiv dupa directia campului de magnetizare. In consecinta,efectele magnetice ale materialului se manifesta si in exterior-materialul s-a magnetizat."
- Ca ÷i energia dezvoltat×" de c×'mpul gravita‏ional,cea dezvoltat×" de c×'mpul magnetic are caracter conservativ. Interac‏iunea dintre doi magne‏i sau dou×" corpuri av×'nd c×'mp gravita‏ional important,produce lucru mecanic dar f×"r×" ca energia gravita‏ional×" sau magnetic×" s×" se consume; sc×"derea מn timp a propriet×"‏ilor magnetice nu este cauzat×" "de consumarea" energiei magnetice din magnetul permanent ci de "מmb×"tr×'nirea structural×"" ÷i este influen‏at×" de permean‏a specific×" a magnetului respectiv ÷i temperatura de lucru ; prin asem×"nare,pierderea sau sc×"derea c×'mpului gravita‏ional solar nu este cauzat×" de "consumarea energiei gravita‏ionale" prin lucrul mecanic efectuat cu rotirea planetelor,etc - ci prin "מmb×"tr×'nirea" Soarelui מn sensul de consumare a combustibilului termonuclear,pierdere de mas×" ÷i sc×"dere progresiv×" a temperaturii.


- energia magnetic×" CHIAR EXISTÖ³ fiind de altfel recunoscut×" מn cadrul teoriei fizicii clasice,nefiind deci de apanajul pseudo÷tiin‏ei ;
- la materialele feromagnetice (materialele cele mai utilizate la ora actual×" מn cazul magne‏ilor) parametrii de baz×" sunt â€" permeabilitatea relativ×" (condi‏ionat×" de material) ; c×'mpul magnetic H â€" la care este supus magnetul permanent מn timpul fabric×"rii sau care depinde de curentul electric,forma ÷i caracteristicile conductorului electric (bobinajului) la electromagnet ; induc‏ia magnetic×" B care este produs×" de c×'mpul H מn condi‏iile permeabilit×"‏ii considerate ;
- c×'mpul magnetic generat de un electromagnet este purt×"torul energiei magnetice a acestuia ;
- c×'mpul magnetic este realizat prin מnsumarea unor for‏e conservative,ale c×"ror linii de for‏×" descriu o traiectorie circular×" perfect מnchis×" ; energia magnetic×" „purtat×"” de aceste linii de for‏×",este ÷i ea conservativ×" ;
- o for‏×" conservativ×" este capabil×" s×" realizeze deplasarea punctului de aplica‏ie ÷i prin aceasta generarea de lucru mecanic (dac×" nu ar putea genera lucru mecanic,מns×"÷i no‏iunea de „energie” nu ar mai avea fundament deoarece energia este capacitatea unui corp de a efectua lucru mecanic â€" sub form×" de energie poten‏ial×",aceasta put×'nd fi מn anumite condi‏ii transformat×" מn energie cinetic×" ; tocmai aceast×" conversie reprezint×" „marele secret” al celor care מntradev×"r au realizat „motoare magnetice” veritabile) mai ales prin interac‏iunea cu o alt×" for‏×" conservativ×" similar×" ;
- p×'n×" la ora actual×" problema „nerezolvat×"” (nerezolvat×" מn mod public...) a fost ÷i este tocmai modalitatea aplicat×" מn vederea conversiei energiei poten‏iale מn energie cinetic×" a unui element rotativ,מn cadrul unui angrenaj de for‏×" (motor) â€" adic×",da,c×'mpul magnetic מnsumeaz×" for‏e conservative capabile de a genera lucru mecanic prin interac‏iunea cu un alt c×'mp de for‏×" similar sau cu un material capabil s×" r×"spund×" la ac‏iunea c×'mpului magnetic, dar מn felul acesta se na÷te o energie (conservativ×") poten‏ial×",care p×'n×" la ora actual×" nu a putut fi „tradus×"” מn energie cinetic×" (deci ...lucru mecanic) dec×'t liniar sau pe mici arcuri de cerc,cum este cazul electromagne‏ilor sau magne‏ilor permanen‏i industriali utiliza‏i pentru purtarea unor piese (metalice) sau מn alte aplica‏ii ;
- energia magnetic×" ÷i conservativ×" nu se „consum×"” prin generarea de lucru mecanic,cel pu‏in nu מn מn‏elesul clasic al cuv×'ntului ; deci NU FACEï¢'I CALCULE DE GENUL „dac×" energia magnetic×" a 1 metru-cub este x ÷i lucrul mecanic dezvoltat este y,atunci מnseamn×" c×" magnetul se va consuma מn z secunde” ,pentru c×" v×" מn÷ela‏i !
- propriet×"‏ile magnetice ale oric×"rui magnet permanent scad ÷i se pierd מn timp indiferent dac×" el genereaz×" sau nu vreun lucru mecanic,dar „מmb×"tr×'nirea structural×"” a magnetului permanent este generat×" de alte fenomene dec×'t „consumul” ;
- tot secretul a÷a-zisului „motor magnetic” const×" מn a face posibil×" sau a מnlesni transformarea unei p×"r‏i din energia sa poten‏ial×",מn energie cinetic×" a elementului rotativ din cadrul unui angrenaj de for‏×" (motor) ; este o problem×" de configura‏ie a magne‏ilor,de geometrie ÷i מnchidere a liniilor de c×'mp,de lucru cu o anumit×" direc‏ie de polarizare a magne‏ilor â€" spre deosebire de motorul electric clasic (schema inductor-indus) avem o serie de magne‏i ale c×"ror linii de for‏×" interac‏ioneaz×" ÷i se מnchid מn cadrul unor juguri magnetice gener×'nd (מn sec‏iunea circular×") un num×"r de vectori ce pot fi מnsuma‏i ; iar מn מntrefier se introduce un element circular de reac‏ie fa‏×" de c×'mpul magnetic,asupra c×"ruia ac‏ioneaz×" concomitent to‏i vectorii pe care astfel מi מnsumeaz×" מn cadrul unei mi÷c×"ri de rota‏ie ; energia care este practic pus×" מn valoare ESTE ENERGIA (POTENï¢'IALÖ³) MAGNETICÖ³.

Now, something about the Vacuum-propulsion technology of Rudolf Liciar:

Elicea/compresorul cicloidal/ciclonoidal ÅŸi metoda vacuumpropulsiei

DeÅŸi oarecum asemănătoare metodei sustentaÅ£iei/propulsiei &laquo; aerodepresionare &raquo; puse la punct de către Henri Coandă,-metoda vacuumpropulsiei este totuÅŸi bazată pe o tehnologie complet diferită… Aceasta este defapt creaÅ£ia inventatorului român de origine germană Rudolf Liciar (din comunitatea săsească a BraÅŸovului începutului de secol XX) â€" el a ÅŸtiut din termodinamica clasică faptul că destinderea aerului de la presiunea normală(la nivelul mării) către vid se produce cu o viteză specifică de 396 m/sec… Din tehnica clasică a turboagregatelor cu mare viteză de rotaÅ£ie,a observat că â€" dacă o incintă descoperită (cum s-ar zice o cameră fără tavan…)în care se află aer la presiunea normală de la nivelul mării, este supusă unei miÅŸcări de rotaÅ£ie pentru care viteza liniară corespunzătoare este de 396 m/sec â€" aerul aflat în incintă va fi evacuat din aceasta,iar aerul din ambient nu va mai putea să intre în incinta respectivă,deÅŸi aceasta rămâne deschisă !
Pornind de la aceste observaÅ£ii,Rudolf Liciar a construit ÅŸi experimentat (sub tutela SS,iar după 1945,- a PMR,reprezentat prin Ioan Gheorghe Maurer ) o serie de aparate de zbor cu decolare-aterizare verticală,care utilizau niÅŸte dispozitive inelare rotative suprapuse ; erau un fel de inele concentrice de diametru progresiv crescător,care împreună formau un trunchi de con (văzute din lateral) ; spaÅ£iul axial era gol iar suprafaÅ£a de extrados a acestor inele rotative era prevăzută cu o serie de incinte având un profil vertical ÅŸi o dispunere unghiulară specială ; prin rotirea acestor dispozitive inelare la aÅŸa viteze de rotaÅ£ie încât viteza liniară periferică să fie egală cu 396 m/sec â€" &laquo; cămăruÅ£ele &raquo; de pe extradosul rotoarelor inelare erau golite de aer ÅŸi astfel,pe suprafaÅ£a de extrados se forma …vacuum.
Ca şi la dispozitivele lui Coandă,diferenţa de presiune dintre extradosul depresionar şi intradosul de suprapresiune,dă naştere forţei portante sau/şi propulsive.La nivelul mării,aeronavele create de Liciar puteau obţine o forţă portantă/propulsivă de 10332,3 Kgf/mp pentru fiecare metru-pătrat de suprafaţă rotorică pe care se crea vacuum cu ajutorul metodei descrise mai sus.Astfel,Rudolf Liciar a realizat un tip de sistem de sustentaţie/propulsie foarte economic şi deosebit de eficient,dar fatalmente…limitat la lucrul în cadrul atmosferei dense ; deci nu poate fi utilizat decât la decolare/aterizare şi în zborul propulsiv sau la punct fix până la o înălţime de max.10.000 metri.

Sounds promising, thanks!

Looking at that 1m2 propellor, when you make the effort to turn it at 30,000rpm (x10 of propellor crafts I found on first google page)...
You're already looking at Mach 7 or so at the wingtips, according to my head calculation. For that to bring tons of thrust, doesn't seem so odd at first glance? Someone with more aerodynamic knowledge will surely and hopefully correct me. If it would then reach a state of OU and self-powering, that would be most significant. But, an OU airplane will need a nice start-up battery to make 30,000rpm I would guess :-)

Can't wait to read the translated texts! If it's in Dutch or German, I can try and help out to make it English.

Does the name Lucian Cozma fit in this puzzle?

QuoteIn the front of the web-page,is a question…The answer is YES,somebody really made this kind of aircraft…First of all,the principle was(and..is)not applied like Kirsten has imagined in the ‘30th but useing crown-shape element which was endowed with several blade-shape elements ; that was o rotational device with a peripherical speed of 396 meters/sec ; in the center of this crown rotational device is…nothing but the axle and several spokes(which connect the rotational crown with the axle…)being the central vacuum space ; the air is absorbed from the center and radially evacuated through the blades.Usually,that rotational device is endowed with several peripherical air-guiding devices and a system of flow devices formed from a Coanda-effect flowing-wall and an external porous surface ; the nazi was been the first to build this kind of cyclonoidal airdraft and their inventor and design-engineer was been Viktor Schauberger ; I am one of the very few people who really knows the true scheme of the Schauberger “repulsine”…Today,everybody can find a lot of schemes on the internet,but almost all of them are fake…The Repulsine had a cyclonoidal propeller covered by a porous aspiration surface,and that small flying apparatus was the so-called “foo-fighter” ; after WW2,in Romania,the german-romanian inventor Rudolf Liciar has built several unconventional flying apparatuses for the soviets.I know a lot of technical details about all that cylonoidal aircrafts.I’ve just wrote an “encyclopedia of secret aviation” with more than 2500 pages of unprecedented disclosures related of Coanda,Liciar,the real schemes of nazi secret aircraft,the real unconventional propulsion systems used even today by the secret services,etc.
Although I was been congratulated from three romanian aviation generals,finally nobody gift the money for pulishing…Well..,I have also the original patent of Liciar,-the RO 21370 from 1932 the original title ” Cyclonoid . Sustinator si propulsor aerian” and from 1932 to 1937,Liciar has obtained another two patents,the original title “Helicopter” and “Aerial apparatus”,with the co-inventor Zareh Loremian Libaret.Rudolf Liciar was been taken by the soviets after 1954 and until now nobody knows the end of his activity and of his life…Begining with the ‘60th,another scientist called Nicolae Moraru,made a lot of important inventions culminating with his “electronic anti-aircraft and antisatellite weapon”(firstly tested in 1967 and used in real combat in august 1968 against the soviets)device which is also the most powerfull climateric weapon and a system of energy transmission and amplification,etc,etc.I know everything about all that devices,including the original technical papers ,- some people threatening me to keep the silence but another people congratulated me…That’s all.
Faithfully Yours !

Comment by Lucian Cozma â€" April 24, 2008 @ 10:37 am

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/09/04/flying-without-wings-or-motors/?Qwd=./ModernMechanix/10-1935/wingless&Qif=wingless_3.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/09/04/flying-without-wings-or-motors/?Qwd=./ModernMechanix/10-1935/wingless&Qif=wingless_3.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL)

tak

Romania also developed a Keely-type sonic weapon based upon malevolent Moldovan melodies.  This was tested in the early 2000's with devastating results.

This is one of its early tests, provoking bizarre and incapacitating lip-syncing behavior in a decadent western test subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXe75cqAMNk
Some other test videos may be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=numa&search_type=&aq=f

To avoid injury when viewing these videos, use shooter's ear protectors and a #14 or darker welder's visor. ;)

Great find, Spacetrax ;)

You are correct about the translation, it frustratingly breaks down at the most important technical parts. Here is a trans. of yor first two posts anyway, just to give a taste ;)

______________

I am a Romanian researcher specializing in conventional technologies, are one of very few Romanians (3 or 4 in total) which has full technical information on propulsion systems, communications systems and energogeneratoare - the distant future, paradoxically, many of these inventions are very ancient world civilizations, but ordering them permanently blocked public access. You should write the entire novel to explain now what is that 'disposition civilizations', more seriously, if I say a few things apropos of who is behind the the statutes, might consider that violate the status of this forum and I would be banned acccesul ... my specialty is actually an aerospace propulsion systems but I know many in other areas more or less similar to aerospace engineering.

You talk here about 'magnetic motors' ... to know that Romania has made such an engine starting in 1973, because in 1983 -- Currently we are in Romania, three people who own and preserve the documentation. One of them has only three very general data and a series of original documents, another one has the majority of original documents drawn by hand by the inventor and ultimately, the undersigned, hold and manage the official documentation of the research file. I would not be entered soon if this forum would not be prepared a formal entry on market technical work to which I refer to these lines ... It is possible that in the next few months to finally have public access, even with a certain part of unconventional technology works in the secret research files. Magnetic motors that you see on the Internet (JNaudin.free.fr, Rex research.com; peswiki.com etc.) are in most cases yield functional or very weak assure you that I watched everything carefully used on the Internet and on the other hand know .

For now I will not give any detail about it - we are in negotiations to get agreement out on the market with so-something, if it is reached, we will then discuss freely and I will give all the details - what materials will be necessary component configuration, working principle, etc. etc.. In terms of engines and deflector shields magnetic field - my dear, you deceived: true magnetic motors are made on the basis of 'shields' or magnetic field shielding "but by a certain configuration and arrangement of pole pieces in position,, intrefier" an element of reaction runner, whose geometry does not sound like anything I know in electro classic, it is segmented (air gaps between segments causing variation of reluctance) and configured so that each segment-nature to form a vector by summing to generate circular movement.
We repeat, not a real scheme found on the Internet, inter

The early 70s who invented the motor magnetic secret here - for so long already, started from the classic technique and free to get ... what to get up to higher education in Paris had made urma.El (the interwar period) was prepared Taman in electrical engineering (L'Ecole Superieure d'Electrotecnique) and during international conferences of the time, several times had occasion to discuss and consult with Nikola Tesla.Izbucnirea of the second World War brought back into the country, where it remained even after the coming of the communist regime. In the 60s he started a research program to improve electrical classic and to this end he took every item of electrical classes and analyzed briefing - working principle and disadvantages. Finally, on the independent study of each element, set the general causes which limits performance "electric motors" "(here taken the time to broadly understood) regardless of their category or type. In short analytical study findings that he made a list of major technological impediments that are outward whole range of electric motors, after which, in turn studied every imediment basis and over the years has tested several solutions. After a number of years of research and experimentation virtually permanent, came to develop many practical and simple solution for every problem facing the classic technique of electric motors . So, he started to try to improve existing technology, without which provide impressive results will come ... Also improving and bringing changes to the electric motor current scheme, he obtained a driver whose components have a completely atypical configuration, changing not only the geometry of engine components but also the principle of operation, assembly dynamics, the application of magnetic fields

Initially, this engine was made of electrically excited polar components (electromagnetic) but subsequently obtained by going to the new scheme, he managed to apply and permanent magnet, the stator and they exist in the scheme no magnetic field deflectors, shields , etc.. In fact, he got the idea or principle of interaction between magnetic fields located in the stator and rotor effects, it is home to a serious conceptual mistake is not how to pull a good yield of arrangement indifierent magnets or other methods applied - and realized that the pole pieces or magnets, must be left in a static position, fixed in a device that ensures a perfect closure of field lines, and in a certain position on such a magnetic device to be prepared a as "magnetic turbine" that is an element of reaction to the magnetic field generated by all tenured magnets, so statorici.The rotor is then a simple reaction element, which does not bear on his magnetic and electromagnetic fields do not produce (electro) magnetic interactions, it does not interact but respond.

So, from the beginning all the problems posed by the Internet are some guys ... ineptii rotor component should not contain her (electro) magnets and rotating machine dynamics should not be based on its interaction between two or more sources magnetic field, but likely reaction of the magnetic elements against the magnetic field created by static sources, if you like fixe.Faceti similar hydraulic or wind turbine, which is a reagent introduced in "liniiile power" of the current fluid, -- turbine will turn potential energy into kinetic energy of the fluid rotating element, would be more effective if the shaft runner would interact tangentially a large number of fluid jets? Obviously not! Axis of the runner just might move fluid and energy expenditure would be huge ... this is where the current Cam Motors ...,- massive magnetic core packages and the stator and rotor windings, which with high power costs are tortured to interact angular, but with large hysteresis losses, Foucault currents, retardation of demagnetizare and forces that occur contraelectromotoare between stator and rotor moments of inertia of rotor greoiul suffering classic, etc, etc, etc ... Andreea is amazed that the solutions obtained in secret research activities are implemented ... There is a game of interests aici.Din (...) Fortunately contemporary Romania is faced with serious economic problems and they advertise immediate and highly efficient solutions that also be cheap and accessible technology standpoint, etc..

I said, fortunately ", because it would be the current state of crisis, nor would have questioned the removal, from naphthalene" of such invention (some of them have already respectable age of ... 40-45 years!) which were strictly secret so long, can I give you today the way the mouth is precisely to put seriously question the use of these inventions, probably the first applications will be restricted, in the field of military technology and civilian applications but for restricted categories of beneficiaries, like the Presidency, Senate, etc., - but whether the first applications will be made in a very small circle, will be a major step forward! Of 35-40-45 years inventions in certain cases the research were deeply buried and only a few people from around the country have direct access to such information. I hope that very soon, the legal status of these data suffer a significant change, because then I can finally come out publicly without reluctance - on TV, in newspapers, internet, etc..

ZPF (ZPM)

"Zero Point Energy" - is a notion that indirectly launched a Nikola Tesla, he also proposed and even built the first "Zero Point Modules." Or "generating zero", after you experience the atmospheric energy converters, goals and power amplifiers / klystron frequency type (device invented by Tesla, indeed ...). But true ZPM's were to be built and tested only at the beginning anilor'70 in Belgia.Personal I had the opportunity to recover one of the first laboratory in experimental models tested in 1972 by Belgium, it worked.

These sites use a ZPM material extraction, which is usually an ultrapure chemical element, and to make removal of the electric charge using a phenomenon of resonance and background emission (space) that is found everywhere in the universe, the alleged represent the residual emission coming from the Big Bang or at the time of creation of material universului.Ulterior in 1975, experiments on ZPM moved to France where they were recorded in 1976 results fulminating, being built two devices different experiments, with large performante.In press time only two articles have appeared isolated and contain many elements of misinformation deliberately introduced by the authors, because fans can not successfully reproduce the experiments. However, the technical information Yet that was passed and over, the iron curtain "on that date, so that already in 1982, even one who invented the engine magnetic" write a technical memorandum on the topic, considering the source of power for engine power or ...

Loock, ZPM's have already been invented, they currently use electricity as sources of secret aerospace vehicle, present significant generation of high voltages and frequencies, ad processing ancillary equipment / electricity conversion, if high power, these devices emit harmful radiation and are therefore necessary to adopt special shielding enclosures. However, ZPM devices are not driving or conversion of some energy in kinetic energy, are sources of electricity.

If you mount the car also a ZPM, all you need is a group that has fueled electric power plant and convert electrical energy into kinetic energy of the rotating element (spindle-motor, shaft, wheels, etc.). Current electric motors are still reliable enough to be adopted as traction motors on land vehicles, they can be used only on small distances, have poor endurance, eat excessively, are highly sensitive and uncertain in operation, not having toughness and resistance to efforts to internal combustion engine ...

Therefore, you need a new engine type and then only new types of power supplies for magnetic acesta.Motorul has a very low electricity consumption, which does not raise major problems in choosing the power source - if you really need to put a ZPM, OK, it can - so just as ZPM's are currently still classified, they are for now only the preserve of amateurs SF, although in practice they were invented almost 100 years ago and now successfully tried cca.38 years.

1, - magnetic field and energy which he develops, is not "drawn" but converted into another form of energy, the term 'extraction' usually refers to the consumer, for a good conversion efficiency are needed two conditions: the existence of at least two pole pieces, or two magnets so that their lines interpozitionati field to form a uniform magnetic field (for it is necessary a special configuration of the polar parts and a specific direction of their polarization) and finally, - field lines to be fully enclosed within a magnetic device, this means that if the path graphic field lines, they will take as little from open areas, air, etc. - but will close on the geometry of the magnetic yokes and pole pieces them;

2, - the only space remains so-called 'intrefier "located between the pole pieces, in this space will range intrefier runner element reaction, 3, - conversion of magnetic energy into kinetic energy is not using coils,-as I said in a previous message, just this is the big mistake of all categories and types of conventional electric motors, are best used magnetic core, so non-permanent magnet made of sheets of Iron-Silicon, on these packages not responsive magnetic sheets to make any winding, it is cut in a specific geometry totally atypical compared to all the currently known in the field of electrical engineering, being arranged on a yoke of special shape and the integrated geometric parts Clamps polar-location of these packages being made in magnetic reactive intrefierul parts which are the source of the polar magnetic field,

4, - how common field lines of the minimum two tracks cross polar intrefierul, generate magnetization in a certain direction of polarization elements located in intrefier reaction, which is more and independent from one another, each will react to form a vector angular independent, the variation of reluctance (due to empty space - air - the reactive elements) will participate in rotor dynamics, in the sense of its kinetic force amplification, in the end is a sum vector of angular momenta which add magnetomotoare force caused by a variation in the item reluctance rotor, - and here, we convert magnetic energy into kinetic energy of element rotation,

5, - maintenance movement ... I said that field lines must be perfectly closed, so the magnetic device is static, fixed, no moving parts, mobile element - which by the desire to describe a movement of translation, rotation, etc. - comes intrefierul located in the polar parts, as a separate component of the unit, otherwise the source of the magnetic field is static and has provided perfect closure of magnetic yokes field lines, if it is electromagnetic, electric current operation is maintained by the excitation of polar components, if it is permanent magnets, they will work as long as the material will not be "demagnetize" - the magnets are good quality ademagnetizarea produced in many years ... practice, the movement not so much because you wear limits of mechanical components - shaft, bearings, moving-parts, etc.Pe the other hand, warming the engine components negatively affect the magnetic qualities material and yield.

In what concerns the performance of current electric motors tested by some companies ... do not want to repeat what I said in the message precedent.Daca these engines are placed in large series production, this is not due primarily to lack of power sources capable of being loaded (for better or worse-electrical sources exist ...) but engine reliability are still too small to replace the internal combustion engine. The engine is robust, with good reliability, power consumption very low yield good etc.Niciunul of traditional electric motors do not even approach these criteria ....

More than any other person, are fully aware of the risks and implications, discussions that deal currently have a number of applications in the restricted "strategic level", - energogene intervention groups for the exorbitant cost of replacement power plants Classical (supplied with gas from Russia / Ukraine via Transnistria and which every day becomes more expensive, not to mention that was always an object of blackmail in the policies of Transnistria, Ukraine and Russia to Romania) as therefore needed in parallel development of technologies which allow intervention in case of emergency rescue in the national energy system.

A magnetic motor of the kind we have talked about is capable of a minimum return of 7 hp / kg of magnetic core, which means a ton of magnetic core (ie an industrial gauge engine) could develop cca.40 Mw. .. The national power and secure from the Russian-Ukrainian blackmail, represents interests yet strategice.Nu problem arises with this type of engine output at the table, but may have and military applications such as for example - Motor vehicles special technique the fight, and I am referring to so-called "strategic weapon", which have paramount importance in the political-military scene in obtaining and ensuring the rule.

However, to be used, I want to get into negotiations now ... At small, either ... Just the strategic level applications or ... Only by special military formations or by some secret service or ... I am not in a position to dictate or conditioning, to impose ... I'm struggling to work out the dust of archives to give finally a public utility, be it only in the small of special services in militarized regime, etc.. it would be a step forward, even if the road map would remain still so long ...

A: The proper magnets are called permanent magnets, which are obtained by alloying and casting the melt under and immediately after casting molds but after deducting the Curie point (temperature at which ferromagnetic substances lose their magnetic properties), polarized magnetic-being , these alloys are mainly composed of magnetite (FeO and Fe2O3) but also from other elements, Earth contains much magnetite but does not mean that it would be established with certainty that this is due to the natural magnetism - earth's magnetic field lines formed with north at an angle with the horizontal site called declination and inclination angle called - see attached maps; Magnets can create and using induction, and given the characteristics of the material undergo magnetization - is about so-called "magnetic permeability" best classical magnetic permeability in electrical engineering is a soft iron, but ferromagnetic substances are also and nickel, cobalt, gradoliniul, etc.. magnetisation observed for a given graph - see attachment, taking into account the so-called magnetization curve and magnetic properties go under that material to near its magnetic saturation.

Open the attachment and look at the charts there - following the curve of magnetisation can be observed that if the field strength increases, increased induction of increasingly încet.În its upper part, the curve becomes almost a straight line and induction increase even slowly while continuing to field strength so crească.Sa reached almost saturation magnetic ... The one piece of steel - for example - is magnetic temporarily, but due to the phenomenon of residence which has a high value on good quality ferromagnetic materials.

Yes, the magnetization coils are used in dc powered magnetisation processes according to material, may require a longer or shorter, its value is found experimentally and întabelată. Correct: "The one piece of steel - for example - is magnetic temporarily, but due to the phenomenon of residence which has a high value on good quality ferromagnetic materials - will remain magnetized for a long time, depending on its magnetic calitatăţile.

The Rest Of The Text

Motors' classic, although it called "power" - not converted (directly) electricity into mechanical work, such a transformation are not only an electrostatic motors, whose runner element (or elements ... "kinetic", regardless of how motion that you made) is driven by the electric field propiu itself. motors so-called "power" are actually "electromagnetic" - they use (often) the interaction of magnetic fields generated by stator and rotor electromagnets, whether are inducing or induced, therefore the interaction of magnetic fields and eventually achieve a so-called "traveling magnetic field, is the source of force which is converted into kinetic energy. They are known as" magnetic motors ", those systems of power that uses permanent magnets based on the interaction of magnetic fields generated, or the variation "magnetic resistance (reluctance), such as presented in post anterioară.Cel engines often use these engines and power supply but only for certain portions of circuit excitation Finam or to supply switching equipment.

In conclusion, called "magnetic motor" (which is based on conversion of magnetic field) is correct even for conventional engines, they are more improriu called "power" than would be named "magnetic" ...

Yes, some models utiliează electricity in the form of pulse sequence and the rest, the magnetic field generated by permanent magnets; the model Public pemanenţi magnet motors, none is "supraunitar" or even "uniform" in terms of output .. . For example, a variable reluctance motor built by brothers Jarret like Him, for mechanical power developed in the spindle-motor, having equivalent value of 1 kW power, will spend cca.1 .25-1, 4 kW electrical power own itself, the benefits consist of compaction, technological simplicity, speed developed, low weight (a good ratio of weight per horse-power) and others.

There are magnetic motors supraunitare, but those are not public and you can not find on the Internet or other public data bases, operating principle is quite simple - two stator pole pieces configured to fully close the field lines, generating a magnetic field is closed yokes these polar components, in an item is ready întrefier reagent (reacting to the action of the magnetic field) of a completely unusual configuration and whose parts give rise to moments (force) that can express the vector .

Vector sum of these forces leading to a resultant force in the same direction apliicaţie and legally can be really high value electricity consumed for excitation of polar components, when using permanent magnets instead of electromagnets, then the engine just does not consume nothing ... But, I repeat, these schemes were not and are not approved for publication at this time. Not bathrooms,-who wants to make a magnetic motor car engine can still use the reluctance Jarret variable brothers, following the electric power generation using special electrochemical sources - and I mean the source of secondary lead-acid electrochemical bipolar electrodes and electrolyte granulate gelations; nesulfatabil battery, inexpensive and has a much higher capacity than that the classical battery, so you can store large amounts of electricity in a more compact volume, providing a sufficient reserve for minimum 6-7 hours of engine operation.

A: "magnetic energy" - but let us and explain this concept, because I saw that is controversial ... As if the electric field, magnetic field is accompanied by an energy under the laws of physics to produce a field of force must produce a mechanical work, the permanent magnets produced work is intimate, the atomic and molecular structure of the material by its polarization, the electromagnet work is produced by electric current intensity I, which creates at least one of the circuit on selfinducţie through it, - that is why the formula is simplified magnetic energy Wm = [(L) x (I) ^ 2] / 2, so the product of inductance L and the square of the electric current intensity, supra

2.Mai far, introducing the relation The above formula for calculating the inductance we learn that:-magnetic energy is contained in the volume of magnetic material; -bearer of magnetic energy is magnetic field, in processing the kinetic magnetic energy, the general formula, estimates used in practice, is: F = [(B / 5000) ^ 2] x S, ie the product of the square and report B/5000 value of surface field lines crossed by the details I did because I noticed the tendency of some to deny the concept of "magnetic energy" ... although it is recognized and devoted itself to classical physics ...! no question of any analogy between gravity and magnetic field - if we mean strictly in the application of these fields of force within a system of converting the mechanical energy.

A: I do not mean anything but ... what I said in other occasions - that this engine was built in Romania (Romanian not claim any exclusivity, but I confine myself only to the documentation that I had personal access. ..) since 1972-1973 in the research and experiments that have stretched over several years, has been tested in 1983-1984 using a Dacia 1300 and a TV, after which the material was seized and taken out of the reach publicului.Nu I have not personally had any shallow-water in research activities which led to the invention and design of the engine, I only had the privilege of being one of the few who could read the file of research regarding this laborious work technical, more than what would have to comment ...? We talked about it ...

1, - the conclusion is false, or at least can not be considered axiomatic, as I described earlier principled magnetic engine made in 1973, it has two fixed polar components (stator) made after the desire of electromagnets or magnets permanenţi.Nu was no mechanism approach / removal of magnetic poles ... "magnetic motors" based on "principle" that are fully online and not working for any color, most often because the energy spent to achieve these alternative movements of polar components, the too mare.Un other operating principle applied to magnetic motors is that of achieving a periodic variation of the "magnetic resistance (reluctance) by it being possible to obtain a kinetic energy applied to a particular direction, the gravitational energy have not necessarily with the condition laid down by you - but only as necessary: to have a material point characterized by mass ...

A: So this engine does not consume anything but the magnetic energy stored in permanent magnets, while they demagnetizându is (or not?), I understand you? 2 - Da.Teoretic ... Basically, there are a number of mechanical limitations related to the bearings, seals, lubrication, heat, wear and limitations made by other machinery within the scheme ...

My intelligence is a matter that does not put in question, being able to measure the and quantify in any way - although I saw that were made by some attempts to set all sorts of methods in this regard. .. opinion yours does not understand - I never claimed that I had 'learned', those in personal correspondence asked me to submit my formal training, he will reiterate what I said here on this occasion: -- I graduated in law and I specialized in forensic (judicial ballistic) - initially worked in Aviation, but health reasons I had to abandon at some point this area of activity;

- Still cca.20 years ago, in circumstances that do not mention, I got to be tangentially involved with special character - at first just to experiment, then in research, I was never part of the collective were composed exclusively of engineers in some areas, but I saw they did and slowly I had access to their documentation - most of the people who formed the collective ceretare meanwhile died or were permanently withdrawn of activity and other collective also have been formed by December 1989, remaining only a few who in one way or another have had access to such records and therefore had the opportunity to know some technical details , etc..

Personally, I have not invented anything and I would never dare to give me as an inventor and my claim on the intellectual work done in decades of research by others ... I claimed something to me so far? There are "scholar", "inventor" or something like this - nor do I claim it, is one of the few who have had access to certain research records were and are still kept well away from the public. I read, compared, I documented, I reread, I looked on the experiments, in some cases I have restored some of the experiments - I finally understood why and how they have been, in all this activity I had support many engineers in different fields, including military engineers, whose advice was often needed.

As I have said to others that I îmmpărtăşit such views (kind of views very widely, indeed ...), - you have access to what's "market" and ... the market is Conventional technology finds you eat make your money and strict dependence on a limited circle of potentates - and in addition, a lot of nonsense and scams that studded the web and we talked about, I do not want to repeat. .. I have had access to other information and I rely on other "sources" research collectives to which I referred on several occasions but were not merely theoretical and experimental research - but they are all my information and things that I know.

What can I make you yours or others who have opinions similar to yours ...? "The work of persuasion"? Propaganda activities? How can I make you believe what you do not want to believe and finally - why do that!? I would serve something ...? I joined the forum and I presented what I know and I have no categorical prohibition ... The other day I received a tough warning from an individual, which I cited some articles of law which I had and sent the attachment to e-mail ... That is - some things bother him. On why you not bother you - as I say "not yet have solutions" very well, this ruling is a solution ...

As much as I could describe - I have already described, close reading all posts on this topic. In short - it's at least two pairs of stator poles 2 + 2 parts, attached to yokes magnetic closure ensures a perfect field lines; they are circular configuration and whether the electromagnets are wound in a completely atypical of what is known classical electric motors, the region is positioned element întrefier runner (if desired motion is the rotation .. .) which is traveled by field lines formed by the four elements (two pairs) stator - can make an analogy with hydraulic or wind turbines are placed in the "lines of force" generated by the flow of a fluid jet ...

The rotor is a reaction and conversion of magnetic energy into kinetic energy (as well as classic traditional turbine systems, fluid or thermodynamic energy conversion), it will produce movement, useful work ... Where does the energy in the system. ..!?! The magnetic energy that we talked and that depends on the volume of magnetic material, the area crossed by field lines in the region întrefier, the magnetic qualities of the material, its temperature (The more cold the better .. .), etc.. In the case of electromagnets, the electrical current can be used but only for sequential excitation in the form of pulses of current - power supply is therefore required to provide the power necessary to drive the runner element as desired.

The engine experienced in 1983 have the ability to generate 7 hp per kg of magnetic core - so the energy of a kg of magnetic material can be converted into useful kinetic energy, this value conversion ratio ... In 1984, Division IV the Security, namely CI Service - seized all experimental devices and so we got a few years later I know them, we investigated these "objects" and accompanying documentation files. I saw and understood what it was about ; more than that .. what to say? There are a lot of things all the repeat ...

know very well the laws relating to intellectual protection in general and in particular the protection of inventions by patent as it appears in the Law no.64 of 1991, Law nr.32/1996 and all other acts related ... Anyway, thanks for hint! invention has been patented by its true author - but not the legal aspect-intellectual patrimony is now the most important aspect but the impact on the interests of certain groups ... So at the moment, we failed to convince those in a position to give me the necessary authorizations, the beneficial aspect of such an initiative, they have their interests are related to large-scale business flying currently ongoing, and entry of such an engine is considered disturbing. legal standpoint, it obtained a court order (for the material after the Court of Bucharest) that would give me the right certification and use the invention contained in the file secret research institution which is currently înarhivează will have to approve the declassification of its first to be presented to a court, under the law, the court may authorize the use of patents and industrial / commercial invention of another author, if passed a certain period and proof that the author has provided no necessary interest in all that time, the legal protection of his invention, is also longer and proof that there is clear capacity to raise the invention with pricina.Se resolve this legal formality - but first will be declassified dossier to be raised before a civil court, and I refer here not to publish technical information contained in this file, but the official recognition of its existence by institution is archived! As long as I still throw in cheek that they confuse businesses, in fact some threaten me and - of course I will not have anything else to do than to talk in the forums and possibly goals in May and go as false or imposter ... That is ... There are a number of issues that go beyond me.

As I have said, even brief exposure of early ... on the concept of "magnetic energy" and the general principle of engine speaking, - for "magnetic energy" if we take the case electromagnet, the work is product of current intensity I traveled a circuit that produces the selfinducţie. We have the energy (magnetic) equal to the product of inductance and so square electric current intensity divided by 2 and further, if inserted into the formula and see the expression for calculating the inductance that the magnetic field energy is proportional to the volume of magnetic core. bearer magnetic energy is magnetic field, it is configured according to field lines, "moving" them through the magnetic material and closing yokes field, the one that gives rise to potential energy - as moving "lines of force" all forms of water or wind energy potential.

The arrangement of field lines in such an element of reaction (as by analogy or wind turbine ...) will lead to conversion of potential energy into kinetic energy that the rotating element - if it is rotating about. It is not of any "magnetic shielding (if you read my first post on this topic you have seen combat from the start that" ETHODS "...) nor any movement of the pole pieces (magnets ...) in various differentiated positions during rotation of 360 degrees.

I got this problem already, was made a small demonstration engine with three pairs of polar components and now await the arrival from abroad of the components in a serious engine - 250 hp minimum, sadly had to found unable to do this engine in Romania - most factories were dismantled and no longer going to be a master and one-something "in gravy", now remaining only a few properly equipped workshops, but put the condition of large series production and for small series or unique, requires some exorbitant prices ... In addition, working with special materials and configurations - that need processing by EDM and cutting laser.Doar abroad I could succeed to find business partners without knowing what specific work should be able to make parts of one-off affordable, appropriate amount of material and difficulty of processing performed.

You spin on matters of general and abstract theory, I talk about practical aplicaţiii. Inventor with because of done a circuit containing four polar components including the yokes inserted according to certain configurations of closures of lines of response and conversion câmp.Elementul "magnetic energy" is so-so set that is ordered in all parts of it have întrefier each pole pieces. The direction of movement of field lines, magnetic energy acts on a different direction in each area întrefier and uniform motion in a single direction of movement is achieved by vector summation.

Magnetic engine is a geometric solution, you need to know how to configure and how to interpoziţionezi components of such a system to have an energy converting continuous rotary motion. The magnetic field could be considered "static", but the classical scheme single magnet, "all the simple secret" that was eventually to take four stator magnets of a particular form of atypical polarization direction (to what the market is now close to geometry mentioned) and he brought in a circuit magnetic unit through yokes leaving many regions it is willing întrefier one single runner reactive element - vector, the same forces that his act amounts to the same direction of rotation.

The thing with wind and water ... were mere abstract analogies, not trying to argue that magnetic field lines were moving and some transmission belts or fillets fluid pressure ... Obviously filings begins to move which is located on the map as a magnet, but a runner element on which the magnetic field act simultaneously in several different regions but which are added together in the same direction of rotation - well, YES, this element is mechanically rotates! And that without the magnetic field lines become mobile like where air or water ...

In the situation of Vuia (French Academy representatives told him that "the achievement of aircraft heavier than air is a chimera, where even the birds flying academy court -" devices "nature - inevitably heavier than air ...) or of Vlaicu, etc. - there is unfortunately a big difference: they were considered eccentric or even mad, but nobody bothered to achieve such an aircraft. That is why they brought the device flight demonstration, conducted with private funding - have received the necessary recognition and Vlaicu - even financing to continue its work. If my mind - is not that those who maintain the system of classification of information it believes that this work is stupid on the contrary.

She was the inventor removed by force (in the case and the law of 1984, it was so-what, author intervening death in 1993 ...) about the way people were taken and other goods - and not for the invention would have been a stupid, inept one, etc. - quite the contrary. can clarify the current legal situation and will clarify when oportun.Este essential to high-powered engine variants (hundreds PA) to take the next step , and I take care of it.

No, today I have only a rudimentary model about the size of a 1-liter cans and is made according to the original scheme in 1973, because I was more easily accessible, but it does not make virtually anything - can not be more than one kind of "motoraş showcases" as the engine's water Ruşeţel. Do not want to go on his way Ruşeţel, I want to go directly to the public with a practical model, applicable car, but costs are significant and can submit only step-by-step, as they take the money.

Fueled by electricity, spinning ... Like any electric motor. I am not the type to post on You Tube or sensational material sent to sites dealing with unconventional and free-energy technologies and other things dynasty. This thing is concrete and put somewhat as follows:
1, - achieve a practical application engine, fully-tuned and adapted commercial,
2, - forming a consortium comprising private and business, including state institutions,
3, - to obtain legal protection through judicial decision rendered by the Court Bucharest can not raise the issue of legal protection from patent because it not only an inventor may ask - now the legal situation is different;
4, - approval of the project and obtain financing from EU funds specifically for such activities, funds for Romania currently lie unused and the risk of us being withdrawn at a time,
5, - an agreement between the consortium and the company / firms producing engines / machines - which produces and market variations finally agreed to be marketable.

Let us take them in turn:

(1) - for this engine, aided by some engineers and using original documentation inventor and research dossier which he led since 1973, I made drawings and design calculation for a few hundred hp engine, the system adjustable traction, since now more than a month have divided and that documentation submitted by some partners abroad and whose works are sent to mediation by a number of providers selected by early November, yet here of România.Până currently part of the submitted orders have not even answered more yes - but require steep prices and are in the process of obtaining money, the simplest works - but essential - could already is, for the inventor in 1983-1984 was simple - work in research and not simply make a list of the necessary, the Romanian state - as socialist as was ...- bear all necessary expenses and fund the research work, for us .. or not enter into discussion so something ...

(2) - members of the consortium are already known today and talked separately with each of them, have accepted three private companies, a department of the Polytechnic and a couple of research institutions - so far, maybe win the others after we come with something more concrete ...

(3) - if it involves and the Romanian state in this business (and here is a backstage fight - the belief that unoir swell to share informal thing) you can get without just and necessary judicial decision;

(4) - about the same general remarks and the release EU funds to finance research, this money would not give the commercial production (as legalmente not allowed ...) but for research to establish a business model for this engine, "commercial" means - to provide certainty and ease of operation, not even a good performance too, have parts and parts that can easily be industrially produced and exchanged by the user, the operation's be such as wear involve some parts or subassemblies, and thus replaced after a reasonable period of time, etc., etc.

(5) - after there business model, he need and taken as such by a large manufacturer machines or engines to be introduced in series production and sold through sales network ...

Immediately after crossing the stage of legal protection, we may publish (magazines, newspapers, books, brochures, advertising, Internet) basic scientific and technical data on this engine: Schedule of principle, theoretical basis, benchmarking against all other "electric motors "built so far, etc., etc.. MotoraÅŸul which is on my desk - next to computer - can be anything in a movie You Tube: a box with an axle that spins and has shown that electric wire supply Hodoronc-thump, - such an image would not say anybody anything ... I hope that little by little I managed to get out of this situation and go through the steps above

The problem was and is ... a political, Romanian magnetic engine was developed and tested in the period 1983-1984 research work being financed entirely by the State, via ICPE-Bucharest and ICEMENERG (where he worked at all inventor) why after finding of this outstanding performance propulsion system, were immediately confiscated all the experimental devices, documents and other evidence and research program was immediately stopped and the composition of the team that researchers were deliberately posted to service all over Romania, although all were originally from Bucharest!?! Because the work was handed over to ICE Danube to be sold in the West as industrial, but which was finally achieved and the ICE Felix, who deals with contracts and negotiations of this kind

And today is a political issue ... I am not one type or another, "came the raft" - I had and still have some family relationships and different type of relationship to "high level" last year I stressed particularly the (re) public release of this technical and scientific work was well buried, but I woke up with some virulent reactions from some - I have some doors slammed in my face, I was cut off funding we had, I woke up and suspicious messages from certain circles of interest - which started to threaten me more or less voalat.Åži look so ... The problem is not primarily that of money - the money will come .., more or less, the basic problem is that the acceptance of top-placed to allow public release of this invention with a particular economic, social and. .. moral.

Magnetic energy is consumed - but slowly, the high quality permanent magnets are needed for years to reduce this energy. In the commodity price - look what e. .. If you manage to reveal and publicly launch the ancient Romanian invention,-it will not ultimately be done only with the participation of the above made clear that they want to gain from it rather than actually gaining in doing gas natural oil and pray, how they are currently spinning ... I fear that they will arrange things so kind as to not be too ieftin.Eu ...!?! I'd even manage to go through the steps mentioned in previous posts - to make this business a public issue, of general application in the national economy of such a magnetic engine manages an efficient conversion of magnetic energy into kinetic energy, for 1 meter-cube of the magnetic core (ie cca.8 tons) making 40 MW power output!

If you solve even the legal one, in that time I will allow to post detailed technical information not only ... support that can be trusted or not by those who read them. Anyway, I used to absolutely nothing to people lie on this issue - especially since it is the internet and already full of lies and all sorts of scams ... Do not ask money from anyone, even if we have really difficult from this point of view - it is our job, the circle now. A falling international oil market, any new large-scale attack or a serious blow to business interests multinational oil - would act as an excellent backdrop for the launch of this business and local orioles could suddenly look so much more receptive to something ...

When you open this program ICEMENERG team (of which was also the inventor and leader of the program) and ICPE, just beat it and fuss about it initially obtained approval: RSR energy independence from the USSR, where massive import -- as now also - natural gas, etc., so it started off, just in this idea ...! WHO in PCR so aggressively intervened to thwart the program to ensure total independence from the USSR!?! Perhaps all those who spoke a few years later for removal of Ceausescu's Communist Party leadership ... Those who lead us today .., c'est à dire.

If we assume that the density of a permanent magnet based on rare earth is 11.5 grams / cc, and as 1 meter-cube has 1,000,000 cc, an apparent mass of 11,500 kg / cubic meter-but only 100 kg mean weight of volume of about 0.008695652 of a meter-cube, assuming magnetic energy value of 200,000 Joules per meter-cube, we obtain a value for 1739.130435 Joule-0.00869 cubic meters - cca.178 Kgf. m but the same is a purely theoretical value taking the intrinsic strength of the magnet, the magnet is used to calculate lift and other computer items including area crossed by field lines, where a permanent magnet motor that area can be very high and it by a particular configuration of component parts and rotor pole crossed by field lines. The permanent magnets based on rare earth, induction often exceeds the value of 15,000 Gauss and the area where field lines act depends on engine size and how it was configured, if you engine I have in mind from the outset was intended to obtain a maximum for S, so the geometry of engine components is so kind. If we have B = 15,000 Gs and S = 300 sq. cm, the force developed is of the order of 2700 Kgf.

I will tell you the most essential part of this motor, as told by the romanian user "Gilldarida". Yes, he is "Lucian Cozma" but I dont know if it is his real name.
In the 1970-es a group of the best romanian electrical engineers tried to make an electric car out of the standard romanian car of that time, the Dacia 1300. They chose the electric motor with VARIABLE RELUCTANCE of the Jarret brothers, which was the best electric motor of those times, and tried to improve it in order to gest best possible torque. They studied that motor and tried to eliminate all weak points, back-EMFs and so on. Finally they came to the conclusion that, in order to get the best performance, there should be NO STEADY MAGNETIC POLES on the rotor. They built many variants until they discovered the way of making the OU magnetic motor, which was NOT their initial intention. The first working version of the magnetic motor had electromagnets on the stator. They also invented a powerful and not sulphatable lead acid battery to power the electromagnets of the motor and so, with little electric energy consumed from the battery, they made the car Dacia 1300 to run tens of hours at full speed WITHOUT depleting the battery. The motor was OU !
Immediately after reporting that performance, the romanian secret service called "Securitate" confiscated all documentation and research materials (about two sacks full of technical files) and the whole thing was strictly classified!!! That is what all secret services do, isnt it? No matter if the country was communist or capitalist, the people were not allowed to get knowledge of the best inventions. Where is the democracy (power of the people) here?
So, even if we do not know the real blueprint of the motor, we know enough to start experimenting.
FORGET all magnetic motors with (electro)magnets on the rotor ! They are performance-killers!
Also forget all types of magnetic shielding. This is NOT the right solution. The right solution was long ago discovered, the magnetic motor of the eng. Nicolae Moraru and his team delivered 7 HP for every Kg. of magnetic material involved! How is that possible? Magnetism is a CONSERVATIVE FORCE that means it NEVER gets depleted!!! Of course the permanent magnets lose their power over the yers, but that is NOT due to the depletion of the magnetism itself, it happens because of the faults of the magnetic materials involved.
After thinking about the conditions told by the user Gilldarida (who must have been in the secret service and had access to the original files) I came up with an idea of how to make the magnetic motor. I made a sketch BUT: this is only an idea, I dont know how it really was. Sorrowfully I have no money for experimenting myself so somebody else please experiment and find the right solution and put it here for free. You will not be able to make money out of it if you discover the right way of building, because politicians will not allow such motors on the civilian (or even military) market. User "Gilldarida" said that he wanted the romanian politicians to consider getting that old magnetic motor on the market, for solving the energy crisis in Romania, but the politicians did not want that, of course. I guess that is why he went public with the general information about the magnetic motor, to put some pressure on the politicians, but until now he has had no success, to my knowledge.

No, it is NOT 7 Mach.   1 qm of propeller surface does not mean that the propeller must have 1 meter diameter. And one can make many small propellers and put them one behind the other, making a compressor, which is what they really made.

Quote from: Cloxxki on September 20, 2009, 08:33:59 AM
Sounds promising, thanks!

Looking at that 1m2 propellor, when you make the effort to turn it at 30,000rpm (x10 of propellor crafts I found on first google page)...
You're already looking at Mach 7 or so at the wingtips, according to my head calculation. For that to bring tons of thrust, doesn't seem so odd at first glance? Someone with more aerodynamic knowledge will surely and hopefully correct me. If it would then reach a state of OU and self-powering, that would be most significant. But, an OU airplane will need a nice start-up battery to make 30,000rpm I would guess :-)

Can't wait to read the translated texts! If it's in Dutch or German, I can try and help out to make it English.

Very interesting. It is often a "good" thing in this field , imo, to hear about an "all-new concept"... As this would certainly be, since it is using "magnets vs. iron" instead of "magnets vs. magnets". It's significant in that, there could be a very good reason why we have not heard of it yet ;) 

One thing we would need to understand to better get an idea of what he meant exactly, is the author's use of the word "Yokes". Precisely how is this word used in the Romanian technical world? in English, it is often used to describe specially-shaped coil assemblies (such as the flyback on a CRT tube).  Of course it is also used as "egg yoke", and to describe the rope & harness arrangement for a bullock pulling a plow or wagon on a farm.

In one of the later passages there, it was interesting to note that the author gave the impression that the secret service & government stomped on the research, and then sold it to Western interests / corporations.... Lol getting a "pay-off" from the Capitalists to shelve it. Hearing the actual NAME of the entity that they sold it to would be great.. And would possibly lead to finding some independent proofs of the existence of the device ;)

1987 is over 20 years ago. Patents should no longer be binding. "Freedom of Information Act" may allow some stray memos on this subject to be found (and maybe some witnesses willing to testify on its existence); if it did indeed end up in some corporation's dusty shelf through government auspices.

This device, if it actually existed and the poster in that forum was telling the truth, could be ripe to be Open Sourced. In fact, i would submit that is the ONLY avenue for this to go forward now. This guy won't get his permissions from his government (or any other).... And if he persists, could get into trouble for it. Meanwhile, if the device is shown to work and then replicated all over the world by many good folks, it can no longer be "suppressed".  The way to defeat suppression tactics cold, and to be truly "safe", is to get the info out as widely as possible, as quickly as possible... So it's too late to stop.

Quote from: spacetrax on September 21, 2009, 02:23:54 AM
No, it is NOT 7 Mach.   1 qm of propeller surface does not mean that the propeller must have 1 meter diameter. And one can make many small propellers and put them one behind the other, making a compressor, which is what they really made.

Thanks, that clears it up.
I recently rented a waterscooter (big jet ski). Its performance got me thinking again about jets, encapsulated fans, etc.
Time for a hurricane in a box!

I have a Romanian friend that can translate these,  stay tuned....
EM

**************************************************


ROMANIAN ORIGINAL TEXT OF GILLDARIDA:
(English translation in Bold text)

Sunt un cercetator roman specializat in tehnologii neconventionale; sunt unul dintre foarte putinii romani (3 sau 4 in total) care detine completa informatie tehnica privind sistemele de propulsie, sistemele energogeneratoare si de comunicatii - ale viitorului indepartat; paradoxal, multe dintre aceste inventii sunt foarte vechi, dar oranduirea sclavagista mondiala le-a blocat permanent accesul public.  Ar trebui sa scriu roman intreg ca sa explic acum ce-i aia ,,oranduire sclavagista"; mai grav, daca as spune o serie de lucruri apropos de cine sta in spatele acestei oranduiri, s-ar putea considera ca incalc statutul acestui forum si mi-ar fi interzis acccesul...

I am a Romanian scientist specialized in non-conventional technologies.  I am one of the very few Romanians, (total of 3 or 4) which posses the complete technical information about: propulsion systems, systems of energy generators, and communicated information-of the distant future.  Paradoxically, a lot of these inventions are very old, but the “World Order of Slavery” blocked public access permanently.  I would need to write an entire novel to now explain what is this“World Order of Slavery”, even worse, if I would say a series of things about who stands behind this order, it could be considered that I’m violating the forum rules, and this may result in my loss of access to it….

Specialitatea mea o reprezinta defapt sistemele de propulsie aerospatiala dar cunosc multe si in alte domenii mai mult sau mai putin apropiate de ingineria aerospatiala. Voi discutati aici despre ,,motoarele magnetice"...Sa stiti ca in Romania a fost realizat un astfel de motor cu incepere din anul 1973, pentru ca in anul 1983-1984 sa fie motorizata o Dacie 1300 cu acest motor deosebit. Rezultatele au fost atat de spectaculoase incat toata documentatia si modelele experimentale au fost imediat confiscate de catre Securitate. Doar o parte din aceste materiale au mai putut fi recuperate cu incepere din anul 1992 si dupa moartea inventatorului, in 1993.

My specialty is in fact represented by aerospace propulsion systems, but I also know a lot in other domains, more or less related to aerospace engineering.  You are discussing here about “Magnet Motors”, you should know that in Romania, such a motor was realized beginning with the year 1973, so that in the year 1983-1984, a Dacie 1300 car was motorized with such a special motor.  The results were so spectacular that all the documentation and the experimental models were immediately confiscated by the Security Forces. Only a small part of these materials were still able to be recovered, beginning with the year 1992 and after the death of the inventor in 1993.

La ora actuala suntem in Romania trei persoane care detinem si conservam aceasta documentatie. Unul dintre acestia trei nu are decat date foarte generale si o serie de acte originale, un altul detine majoritatea documentatiei originale intocmite olograf de catre inventator si in fine, subsemnatul, detin si administrez documentatia oficiala din cadrul dosarului de cercetare.

Presently, there are three of us in Romania, which hold and preserve this documentation.  One of these three has only general dates and a series of original official documents; another holds the majority of the original documentation hand written by the inventor; and finally, me the underwriter, I hold and administer the official documentation pertaining to the official research file.

N-as fi intrat pe acest forum daca in curand nu s-ar fi pregatit o intrare oficiala pe piata a lucrarii tehnice la care ma refer in aceste randuri...Este posibil ca in urmatoarele cateva luni sa avem in sfarsit accesul public, macar cu o anumita parte dintre lucrarile de tehnologie neconventionala din cadrul dosarelor de cercetare secreta. Motoarele magnetice pe care le vedeti pe internet (JNaudin.free.fr ; rex research.com ; peswiki.com etc) sunt in cea mai mare parte din cazuri nefunctionale sau de randament foarte slab; va asigur ca am urmarit cu atentie tot ceea ce circula pe internet si pe de alta parte cunosc adevarata tehnologie a acestor motoare - schema reala este foarte departe de ceea ce puteti gasi pe internet!

I would not have joined this forum if an official entry on the market place would not have been prepared soon for our technical works, to which I am referring in these lines.  It is possible that in the following months we will finally have public access, at least to a certain part of the non-conventional technology works pertaining to the secret official research files.  The magnetic motors that you see on the internet (e.g. JNaudin.fre.fr, rex.research.com, peswiki.com, etc…) are in a large part nonfunctional, or of very low performance; I assure you that I have been following closely everything that circulates on the internet, and on the other hand, I know the true technology of these motors - the true schematic is quite different than what you can find on the internet!

Deocamdata nu voi da niciun amanunt despre chestia asta - suntem in tratative pentru a obtine acordul de iesire pe piata cu asa-ceva; daca se va ajunge la asta, vom putea atunci discuta liber si am sa va dau toate amanuntele - ce materiale va sunt necesare, configuratia componentelor, principiul de functionare etc etc.

Right now I will not provide any detail about this thing â€" we are in negotiations to obtain the agreement to come out unto the market with such things; if we get there, then we can discuss freely, and I will give you all the details, whatever materials you find necessary, the configuration of the components, the functional principle, etc…

In ceea ce priveste motoarele magnetice cu scuturi sau deflectoare de camp - dragii mei, va amagiti: adevaratele motoare magnetice nu sunt facute pe baza de ,,scuturi" sau ,,ecranare de camp magnetic" ci printr-o anumita configurare a pieselor polare si dispunerea in postura de ,,intrefier" a unui element rotoric de reactie, a carui geometrie nu seamana cu nimic din ceea ce stiti in electrotehnica clasica; acesta este segmentat(golurile de aer dintre segmente provocand variatia reluctantei) si configurat de asa-natura incat fiecare segment sa formeze un vector care prin insumare sa genereze deplasarea circulara.
Va repet, schema adevarata nu o gasiti pe internet; internet-ul este plin de intoxicare informativa si tot felul de falsuri. In fine,daca va intereseaza totusi deflectoarele de camp magnetic si chiar credeti ca veti reusi ceva cu astea,va pun la dispozitie aici brevete recente pe tema ,,scuturilor magnetice" :

(nota : pentru a vedea si desenele atasate acestui brevet, cautati brevetul pe site-ul esp@cenet.com)

Concerning magnetic motors with shields, or deflectors of the magnetic field, my dear ones, you a deceiving yourselves; true magnet motors are not based on “shields” or the “blockage of the magnetic field,” but on a certain configuration of the motor poles and the placement in the gap of a reactionary rotational element, the geometry of which resembles nothing you are familiar with from classical electrodynamic theory.  This element is segmented (the air gaps between the segments creating a variable reluctance) and configured of such nature that every segment will form a vector (of force), such that through vector addition (from all the segments), it will generate a circular displacement.  I will repeat, you will not find the true schematic on the internet - the internet is intoxicatingly full of information and of every kind of falsehood.  Anyway, if you are still interested in magnetic field deflectors, and even believe that you will succeed with these, I will make available to you here, recent patents on the subject of “magnetic shields”:
(note:  to also see the figures associated with the patent, find the patent on the website esp@cenet.com)


Cel care la inceputul anilor '70 a inventat acest motor magnetic,secretizat iata - de atata vreme deja,a pornit de la tehnica clasica si fara scopul de a obtine...ceea ce a obtinut pana la urma.El facuse studiile superioare in Paris(perioada interbelica) fiind pregatit taman in electrotehnica(L'Ecole Superieure d'Electrotecnique) iar in timpul unor conferinte internationale ale vremii,avusese in mai multe randuri ocazia de a discuta si a se consulta cu Nikola Tesla. Izbucnirea celui de-al doilea razboi mondial l-a adus inapoi in tara,unde a si ramas chiar si dupa venirea regimului comunist.

The one who in the early ‘70s invented this magnetic motor, still kept secret after such a long time already, began from classical theory and without the objective of obtaining that which he finally did obtain in the end.  He completed advanced studies in Paris (before WWII), in fact at the famous electrotechnical school: L’Ecole Superieure d’Electrotechnique, and during a number of international conferences at the time, he had numerous occasions to discuss and consult with Nikola Tesla.  The start of the Second World War brought him back to Romania, where he remained even after the arrival of the communist regime.

Pe la mijlocul anilor '60 el a pornit un program de cercetare pentru ameliorarea electrotehnicii clasice ; in acest scop el a luat fiecare element al electrotehnicii clasice si l-a analizat in briefing - principiul de functionare si dezavantaje.
In final, pe marginea studiului individual al fiecarui element, a stabilit cauzele generale care limiteaza performantele "motoarelor electrice"(aici luat termenul cu intelesul sau general) indiferent de categoria sau tipul acestora. In concluziile acestui scurt studiu analitic el a facut o lista cu marile impedimente tehnologice de care se izbeste toata gama motoarelor electrice,dupa care,pe rand a studiat fiecare impediment in parte si de-a lungul anilor a testat mai multe solutii. Dupa un numar de ani de cercetare si experimentare practic permanenta, a ajuns sa puna la punct cate o solutie practica si simpla pentru fiecare problema cu care se confrunta tehnica clasica a motoarelor electrice.

In the mid ‘60s, he began a scientific research program aimed at improving classical electrodynamic theory.  To this end, he took every element of the classic electrodynamic theory and analyzed it in brief â€" it’s functional principle and disadvantages.  Finally, in addition to the individual study of each element, he established the general causes that limit the performance of electric motors, regardless of their category or type.  In the conclusion of this short analytic study, he made a list of the great technological impediments that all categories of electric motors will confront, after which, he studied each impediment in turn, and along the years he tested lots of solutions.  After a number of years researching and experimenting, practically non-stop, he manged to sort out a practical and simple solution for every problem that confronts the classical theory of electric motors.

Asadar,el a pornit de la incercarea de ameliorare a tehnicii existente,fara sa prevada rezultatele impresionante la care va ajunge...Tot ameliorand si aducand modificari la schema motorului electric de curent continuu,el a obtinut un motor ale carui componente au o configuratie complet atipica,modificand nu doar geometria componentelor motorului ci si principiul de functionare,dinamica ansamblului,modul de aplicare a campurilor magnetice,felul in care inchide liniile de camp in cadrul sistemului de forte magnetomotoare,etc,etc.

Therefore, he started from trying to improve existing theory, without foreseeing the impressive results to which he would arrive….constantly improveing and bringing modifications to the design of the DC electric motor, he eventually obtained a motor which has its components configured completely atypical, modifying not only the geometry of the motor components but also the functional principle, the dynamics of the assembly, the mode of application of the magnetic fields, the style in which the magnetic field lines close with regard to the system of magneto-motor forces, etc, etc.   


to be continued ..... (check back often as I will update this post periodically,  already updated 3 times)

looks like I can only do so many updates to a posting... here's more and a very important passage too..


Initial, acest motor a fost realizat din piese polare excitate electric(electromagneti)dar ulterior,mergand pe noua schema obtinuta,el a reusit s-o aplice si cu magneti permanenti,acestia fiind STATORICI si neexistand in schema niciun fel de deflectoare de camp magnetic,scuturi,etc.
Defapt,el a inteles ca ideea sau principiul interactiunii dintre campuri magnetice adverse situate pe stator si rotor,este din start o grava greseala conceptuala care nu are cum sa scoata un randament bun indifierent de dispunerea magnetilor sau alte metode aplicate ,- si-a dat seama ca piesele polare sau magnetii,trebuiesc lasati intr-o pozitie statica,fixa,in cadrul unui dispozitiv care sa asigure o perfecta inchidere a liniilor de camp, iar intr-o anumita pozitie fata de acest dispozitiv magnetic sa fie dispus un fel de "turbina magnetica" adica un element de reactie fata de campul magnetic generat de ansamblul magnetilor ficsi,statorici.Rotorul devine deci un simplu element de reactie,care nu poarta pe el magneti,electromagneti si nici nu produce campuri (electro)magnetice de interactiune ; el nu interactioneaza ci REACTIONEAZA.

Initially, this motor was realized and built with poles excited electrically (i.e., electromagnets) but later, following the newly obtained scheme, he succeeded in implementing it also with permanent magnets, these being stator magnets, and in the scheme being found no existence of any shields or magnetic field deflectors, etc.  In fact, he understood that the idea or the principle of interaction between opposing magnetic fields, situated on the stator and rotor, is from the beginning a grave conceptual mistake which can not produce good efficiency, regardless of the magnet arrangement or of any other applied methods â€" he realized that the poles or the magnets need to be left in a static position, fixed, in regard to a device that enables the perfect closure of the magnetic field lines, and in a certain position relative to this magnetic device, to cause the realization of a kind of “magnetic turbine”, meaning, a reactive element to the magnetic field generated by the assembly of the fixed magnets, i.e., the stator ones.  The rotor then becomes a simple element of reaction, which caries no magnets on it, neither electromagnets, and not even produces (electro) magnetic fields for interaction; it does not interact, only REACTS.

to be continued..... (in a few days..)

note mention of "magnetic turbine" I once had such ideas in my head too, glad to see somebody experimented with them and they worked.

Thanks EM.

Let's see if anything comes of all this.

BEP

test

Asadar,din start toate problemele pe care le ridica astia de pe internet sunt niste ineptii...Componenta rotorica nu trebuie sa contina pe ea (electro)magneti iar dinamica masinii rotative nu trebuie sa aiba la baza sa INTERACTIUNEA dintre doua sau mai multe surse de camp magnetic,ci reactia unor elemente susceptibile magnetic fata de campul magnetic creat de surse statice,fixe.Faceti daca va place o similitudine cu turbina hidraulica sau eoliana,care este un element reactiv introdus in "liniiile de forta" ale curentului fluidic ,- turbina va transforma energia potentiala a fluidului in energie cinetica a elementului rotativ ; ar fi mai eficient daca asupra axului rotoric ar interactiona tangential un numar mare de jeturi fluidice ?! Evident ca nu ! Axul rotoric abia de s-ar putea misca iar cheltuiala de energie fluidica ar fi uriasa...Cam asta este cazul actualelor motoare electrice...,-pachete masive de miez magnetic si bobinaj pe stator si rotor,care cu mari cheltuieli de curent electric se caznesc sa interactioneze cinetic,dar cu mari pierderi datorate histerezei,curentilor Foucault,retardului de demagnetizare si fortelor contraelectromotoare care apar intre stator si rotor,momentelor de inertie de care sufera greoiul rotor clasic,etc,etc,etc...

Therefore, from the onset, all the problems raised by the folks on the internet are nothing but absurdities…  The rotational component should not contain on it any electromagnets, and the dynamics of the rotational machine should not be based on the INTERACTION between two or more sources of magnetic field, but on the reaction of magnetically susceptible elements against the magnetic field created by static sources, which are fixed.  If you like, make a comparison to a turbine for hydraulics or air flows, which is a reactive element inserted in the “lines of force” belonging to the flowing fluids â€" the turbine will transform the potential energy of the fluid into the kinetic energy of the rotational element; will it be more efficient if a number of forces, from fluid jets, will interact tangentially upon the rotational axle? Evidently not! The rotational axle will barely move, and the expenditure of fluid energy would be gigantic… This is roughly the case for the current electric motor: huge chunks of magnetic core and coil wire, on the stator and rotor, which with a large expenditure of electric current, is struggling to interact kinetically, but with large losses due to hysteresis, Foucault currents (eddy currents), retardation due to demagnetization and forces opposing the electomotor which appear between the stator and rotor, and the rotational inertia plaguing the bulky classical rotor, etc, etc, etc…

Andreic este uimit de ce solutiile obtinute in cadrul activitatii secrete de cercetare nu sunt aplicate...
Exista un joc al intereselor aici.Din fericire(...)Romania contemporana este confruntata cu grave probleme economice iar acestea reclama solutii imediate si de mare eficienta,care totodata sa fie si ieftine,accesibile dpdv tehnologic,etc.
Am zis ,,din fericire",pentru ca de n-ar fi fost starea actuala de criza,nici nu s-ar fi pus in discutie scoaterea ,,de la naftalina" a acestor vechi inventii(unele din ele au deja respectabila varsta de...40-45 de ani !) care atata vreme au fost strict secretizate ; daca astazi pot sa mai dau drumul la gura este tocmai pentru ca s-a pus in mod serios problema utilizarii acestor inventii ; probabil ca la inceput aplicatiile vor fi restranse,in domeniul tehnicii militare sau aplicatii civile dar pentru categorii restranse de beneficiari,gen Presedintie,Senat,etc ,- dar indiferent daca la inceput aplicatiile se vor face intr-un cerc foarte restrans,va fi totusi un mare pas inainte ! De 35-40-45 de ani, inventiile din cadrul anumitor dosare de cercetare au fost adanc ingropate si numai cativa oameni dintr-o tara intreaga au avut acces direct la astfel de informatii.
Sper ca foarte curand, regimul juridic al acestor informatii sa sufere o modificare importanta, caci atunci voi putea in sfarsit iesi public fara nicio retinere - la TV,in presa,pe internet,etc.

Forum user, ANDREIC, is amazed at why the solutions obtained, as part of the secret research activities, are not put in practice.  Unfortunately, there is a game of interests here.  Present day Romania is confronted with major economic problems and these necessitate immediate solutions, and of high efficiency, which at the same time should be inexpensive, and accessible from a technological point of view, etc.  I said “unfortunately” because if the current state of crisis would not have existed, no discussion would have even occurred about the bringing out, “from storage” of these old inventions (some of them already having attained the respectable age of 40-45 years!) which for such a long time having been kept secret; the reason that today I still dare to open my mouth, is because the issue of utilizing these inventions was seriously brought forth (in high level meetings)  Perhaps, in the beginning the implementations will be limited, for example to military applications, or to civilian applications, but for small groups of beneficiaries, the likes of, the Presidency, the Senate, etc...(i.e. for important individuals) â€" even if the initial group size is small, it will however be a huge step forward !  For 35-40-45 years, the inventions, pertaining to these previously mentioned research files, have been buried deeply, and only a few people out of a whole country had direct access to such information.  I’m hoping that very soon, the laws governing this type of information will soon receive an important modification, because then I will be able to at last come out publicly without any restraint â€" to the media, to the press, on the internet, etc..


to be continued .....

P.S.  As an aside, I wonder if these revealed principles are similar to this drawing. I was toying with these concepts about a decade ago.  Magnetic lines of force will be normal to the surface so if the surface is normal to the radial everywhere on the inside radius no tangential forces result, but on the outer edge we can see the inclination so there will be a net tangential vector force that will rotate the rotor.  I believe others have tried these concepts as well but with no results.  We'll have to see.

Hi EMdevices,
Very interesting work.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to provide the translations
Mike

If Gilldarida is Lucian Cozma there is a forum with him on:

http://forum.drumulinvingatorilor.ro/index.php?topic=138.105

And he is talking about Mr. Moraru.

Just my 2 cents. I don't understand anything,

Regards.

you can't split an electron in half to make 2, you can't get over unity by the electron alone! you need to use the photon in conjunction with the electron to get OU. please read about Stimulated Emissions.

Jerry :)

Here is a rough explanation of the subjects on that page:

June 2009: he said, he tries to stay alive because many people with big interests are attacking him for telling the romanian people about those inventions.
He also says about another invention of eng. Nicolae Moraru, the weather and seismic weapon which is now currently used in a hidden war by the big nations, a weapon which is the true responsible for the ozon hole. The official CFC-reason is a hoax. He also says about other romanian inventors, Henri Coanda which invented the usual jet engine and also some flying saucers and Traian Vuia, which invented one of the oldest aeroplanes and a superperformant generator which works with 80% water.

I tell you guys, this man is pure gold for us!

Quote from: VenomTT on September 23, 2009, 07:31:08 PM
If Gilldarida is Lucian Cozma there is a forum with him on:

http://forum.drumulinvingatorilor.ro/index.php?topic=138.105

And he is talking about Mr. Moraru.

Just my 2 cents. I don't understand anything,

Regards.

Quote from: spacetrax on September 24, 2009, 03:27:11 AM
I tell you guys, this man is pure gold for us!

Or perhaps just as nuts and delusional as 99% of the free energy community.

C'mon guys. The more sensational stuff a single source reveals, the more likely
this source is just a flipped out person looking for attention.
The golden rule of self-perception is still valid:
"If it seams to good to be true then it's likely not being true either."

Yes, the free energy scene is full of deceivings because many state and/or private agents publish a lot of BS just to get people in error, for keeping the world as it is today. Probable the most of the "discoveries" shown here on this board are well thought decievings.
But this is NOT the case of Lucian Cozma (Gilldarida). The man wrote hundreds of pages on different romanian boards, full of general descriptions of all kinds of inventions. If he just wanted attention or money he would have got it both. I happen to have only the Chapter 1 (in censored form) - which is a 33 MB pdf file - of a big book he wrote, named "Secret Aviation". This chapter 1 alone, which he gave for free on the internet, is pure gold for aviation fans! Too bad that it is in romanian language, otherwise I would have put it here for downloading. He speaks of many unconventional inventions, but without giving specific details such as dimensions, angles, power, tensions etc.
The man is not an inventor himself, but he has access to a secret archive. So, given the bad situation in the world today, he tried to force the hand of romanian politicians to implement radical technologies in the economy, by going public with some general aspects of those secret technologies.
So, the man is NOT a phony nor a hoax!
I remember something else he said... the two world wars were the reason why the biggest politicians agreed to put into military production A LOT of inventions, which later went into civilian production. If the wars would not have happened, we had NO planes or television or radars today.
He also said that the actual economy crisis will lead to a new world war sooner or later and in this war we will see a lot of unconventional inventions put into practice. UFOs and the like...a new world war could not be won with jet planes...
After the third war these things will have to go also into civilian life, once the population saw them at work...the same thing happened with the aeroplanes in the first world war.

Quote from: Ergo on September 25, 2009, 04:53:29 AM
Or perhaps just as nuts and delusional as 99% of the free energy community.

C'mon guys. The more sensational stuff a single source reveals, the more likely
this source is just a flipped out person looking for attention.
The golden rule of self-perception is still valid:
"If it seams to good to be true then it's likely not being true either."

I found this on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9s33X9D4I

It kind of reminds me of what this thread is talking about. Its design is a little different, but it does use magnetic attraction of iron to accomplish rotation. It looks like the design needs some refinement. I think that in this design weak magnetic coupling prevents a sticking point (just thinking out loud).

Staffman

Quote from: Staffman on September 25, 2009, 09:48:15 AM
I found this on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9s33X9D4I

This motor is the Screw Motor and yes, it's faked. It's been proven over and over.
I while ago the so called inventor admitted he used the wind from a hair blower to move
the cylinder. Case closed.

Don't be so quick in fooling yourself. If it's posted on youtube it's certainly a fake.

Lol, are there still some of these out there? What fun!

What these "people" never get is that if all they have is their constant poisonous ad hominem's and their own "surety" of their opinions... They would be better off staying home ;) 

... Or maybe going to hang out and comment below the mainstream media site articles on celebrities lol.

LOL do you really think you are going to influence anyone here with that tired old "it's impossible" and "you're all nuts" act? Sheesh, call up Eric at "Shill Central HQ" and get some help send down, for crissakes hehehe ;) At least he has something interesting to say.

This is what shuts these so called "people" down every time:

Show us a University study on Stanley Meyer's system for on-demand hydroxy electrolysis (specifically high voltage DC pulses sent to a "resonant"-like submerged capacitive load.. Not the B-S NASA study from over 30 years ago which is their usual red herring)....

Since local TV news reports showed Meyer's Dune Buggy RUNNING ON THE ROAD, since numerous engineers and academics saw his work and did not debunk it, since it was seriously studied by the British Admiralty, and received International Patents....

Something that could end the reign of oil would deserve at least one measly little University study... Shouldn't it?

* The sound of crickets chirping *

....And then, explain how you "folks" were utterly wrong about L.E.N.R. / Cold Fusion after all!

OOPS. Last March they apparently forgot to get word out to the knee-jerkers and shills on that one, and let their bare backsides wave in the wind, hehehe. That could happen again soon, too.

ROFL. :)

What are you here for, thinking your opinion matters so much that you have the right to criticize and "correct" our thinking, believing that your poor attempts to piss in our soup is in anyway worthwhile. Please explain how it is that we would listen to a nameless malignant shadow anyway; that makes it clear by his or hers comments that they are hanging out in a site where they despise the entire concept... And the good folks who come here?

Lol, tell us how "altruistic" your motives are now, and how you are "saving us from ourselves" ;)

Hehehe but by all means, go ahead and continue to try to convince us to stop studying these important technologies that the mainstream refuses to admit exist:

It's fun to watch.

But know that we are done taking crap from "people" like you... And if you use ad hominem personal attacks on us, you will be sent back to wherever you came from looking like a moron.

Lol i love open minds willing to debate ;)

Even a regular old DC series electrolysis cell at "faraday efficiency" can be COP>1 when calculating the caloric heat value of burning the hydroxy (...when contacting a metal surface: Because the temp of a hydroxy burn is dependent on the surface it touches, up to 3k degrees or more). This can be verified by using a Yul Brown-invented Norinco torch system (on the market for 20 years now).

So you are wrong about that from the "get-go", pal... Without even considering Meyer's work with pulsed DC "resonance matching" which was at least 4 times as energy efficient as a DC series cell, and reported to be up to 40 times so. Then there was his later work with the gas injectors, which used a whole 'nuther system in conjunction to the electrolyzer.

This can go on all day.. Show us something to back your opinion next time and we may get somewhere ;)

You say suppression is a "conspiracy theory". It certainly is not. Thomas Valone, former Patent Office employee, has stated on the record that there have been over 3,000 free-energy related Patent Requests "secretized" over the years. Everyone agrees that the government would suppress a device that was an obvious weapon system.... The question that we must ask ourselves is this: Do we trust our government to insure that ALL these devices were really "dangerous" to national security, or are some of them just dangerous to "Energy Cartel Security" ;)

Corruption exists in every government. It exists all over the corporate world as well. To deny that is simply silly. If you believe the corporations and governments are always out for your best interests, you need your head examined much more than anyone who believes these technologies exist ;)

If you give me 4* Faraday HHO through electrolysis, I'll dedicate my life to getting the appropraite funding to make a motor that will allow it to run indefinitely, as long as water is brought in. And good mileage, too. I firmly believe than if you get to 2* Faraday efficiency, an efficient engine and alternator will  leave enough juice to get the chassic on whcih the assembly is mounted, rolling. A car. Once you get the 2* Faraday, in my simple calculation that received zero replies, all you need it engine efficiency, that will make it work, and keep you from carying LOADS of water around. It free, but still, who want a 5mpg car on water? Tanking up never gets fun, especially not at that rate, even if it's free.

I hope other governments will pressure Romania into doing its utmost to make alternative energy systems available to mankind. A state-funded factory could have a great edge over the rest of the world, and get Romanians well-paid jobs, selling top dollar products, and bringing in lots of VAT.

Dear Cloxxki, you made me laugh... :D the former communist leader of Romania, Ceausescu, wanted to implement the unconventional technologies on romanian standard cars, that is why he ordered the whole research work.
The " other governments" forced him NOT to do so, because once the tehnology out on the streets, the western cars would have ultimately had to run on magnetic motors too, not on gasoline... and " the other governments" like gasoline and the profits they get from it  ::)

Quote from: Cloxxki on September 25, 2009, 04:28:05 PM
I hope other governments will pressure Romania into doing its utmost to make alternative energy systems available to mankind. A state-funded factory could have a great edge over the rest of the world, and get Romanians well-paid jobs, selling top dollar products, and bringing in lots of VAT.

First of all, unfortunately I just cannot post the attachaments, because they are too big- many of these attachaments have much than 300 Kb and all together much more than 1100 Kb. In that case, I will post all the attachaments into a temporary internet folder and I give You the link for downloading. I will made this today. The time is short and I cannot work too much. The attachaments contain patents and scientific informations about many unconventional technologies.
About the Liciar propeller, it doesn't reach the speed of 7 Mach, but just the peripherical speed of 396 m/sec (which is about 1, 16 Mach if we consider 1 Mach ~ 340 m/sec or 1225 Km/h; at 20 degr. Celsius of air, the Mach is 343, 4 m/sec); or, for developing a peripherical speed of 396 m/sec, we applied the formula V = (Pi x Diam. x N.rot.) / 60 ;so, as much the diameter (Diam.) of the rotor is bigger, the rotational speed (N.rot.- rot per minute) decreases; and contrary, if the diameter of Liciar cicloidal propeller is smaller, its rotational speed must be bigger- in the attachament it is the example of a Liciar propeller of 0, 3 meter in diameter (which is about 1 ft) and the rotational speed must be 25200 rot/min, that kind of speed could be reached by certain (classic) electric motors. If we use a bigger diameter (like certain UFO's seen, which have above big rotational discs...), the rotational speed decreases and we could use "normal" engines.

I don't want to participate in the overunity debates. From this summer, I was been accepted as master in the Military Technical Academy and I must put an end to my public activity on internet. However, I appreciate Your work and hope for finding the real technology and the "clean solutions" in the matter of energy and propulsion.
See all my posts on Softpedia- in all the topics.
About the magnetic engine, I can simply tell You : yes, it exists and it really works. That's not a recent invention- the romanian inventor Nicolae Moraru has made it 36 years ago. That kind of engine was been tested and improved several times- in 1976, 1983, 1984, 1992. In 1993, N. Moraru died and the research activity ceased.
That dossier remains classified until this day- but fortunately, in 1992, before his death,
Moraru insisted to be published (declassified) one of his patents : the RO 109405 patent which exist today IN REGIME OF PUBLIC INFORMATION. This patent is here, in attachement.
Nicolae Moraru (who also invented and built in 1963 an improved model of the Tesla geophysical weapon) has made several different types of magnetic engines. ALL OF THEM ARE apparently Over Unity. About the “over unity”, I have cu specify that the theoretical Over Unity cannot exist. You just cannot obtain more energy from nothing- the supplementary energy that appears inside the unconventional “free energy” devices, has A SOURCE. So, there is no energy from nothing- but it could be collected from environment (underground, atmosphere, vacuum space, solar wind, the Birkeland currents, the electric field between soil and ionosphere, etc, etc) or from the atomic or molecular structures (see the Michel Meyer patents). During experiments, apparently we can see “the over-unity” when the output power is bigger than the input power which supplied the experimental device. I call this “the apparently efficiency”, and its value could be much bigger than 1… However, the REAL physical efficiency just cannot be over 1; for instance, a device is supplied with 50 Watt and it collects free electric charges from the atmosphere (see the patents of Jules Guillot !) having the output of 2500 Watt- the apparently efficiency is 50, but the real physical efficiency is about 10^-7, even less… In the terms of “magnetic energy”, this is a conservative energy, like the gravitational energy for instance. That means that  by interaction (between forces and fields of force) the conservative energy COULD develop mechanical work (also, kinetic force) although being conservative, THERE IS NO ENERGY CONSUMPTION. That’s why the gravitational energy of Sun or Earth, doesn’t consume, although the interaction between the two gravitational field generates huge mechanical work.
The type of Moraru Engine which I have "replicated" , produces 117 times more energy than it consumes, and my model is not the most improved made by Moraru... In 1992, he made what he called "the engine with pure magnetic energy"- that was the most improved model using just permanent magnets and developing 7 HP/ each Kg of magnet.

There are FIVE great romanian inventors who made very important inventions and improvements in the technologies applied in the field of energy and propulsion :


- Henri Coanda, the inventor who was "the father" of a new technology- "the aerodepresive lift and propulsion" (the application of "Coanda effect") ; after his inventions both the Nazi and later, the americans could built several types of unconventional aerospace vehicles. Coanda, who worked for the Nazi, was initially convicted to death, but the USA take him from the french prison, and Coanda has worked in USA until his death in 1972; there are a lot of important patents made by Coanda- part of them not classified anymore. However, not all the Coanda's patents are declassified. The most important of his inventions remains in classified regime. In the attachement I have put the so-called "Coanda's flying epaulettes", an individual flying apparatus which used two small devices, 4 Kg each of them, containing (each) 2 cubic-meters of highly pressurized hydrogen inside an toroid-tank near 1/2 Kg of water; the two "epaulettes" could lift a pilot (80-100 Kg) flying with max. 80 Km/h a max. distance of 250 Km until need to refuel. This individual flying apparatus remains secret. These days, I work for replicate it, because I know the technology applied by Coanda and all the technical details, dimenssions, etc. But this work will be not public;

- Rudolf Liciar, an romano-german (in Romania, more precisely, in Transilvania- until the soviet ocupation in 1945, we have a large german comunity established there in the Middle Ages) who knows very well the secrets of Viktor Schauberger, invented in 1923 the method of "vacuumpropulsion"; by the way- ALL the informations about the Viktor Schauberger's "repulsin" ARE MISTAKEN or FAKE. That's why nobody can replicate the Schauberger's "repulsin". I have red the Liciar's patent and a lot of more related documents, and then I understand what is the real technology applied by Schauberger, and I repeat- there is nothing corect on the internet or another public sources about Schauberger real technology. In interbelic period in Romania, the romano-german Rudolf Liciar has made THE SUPERSONIC AERIAL VEHICLE BASED ON WHAT HE CALLED "the vacuumpropulsion"; the applications of vacuumpropulsion in energetics are impressive... See the attachament;

- George "Gogu" Constantinescu, the "father" of a new science- the SONICITY; he has made several hundreds of patents- the sonic energy converted in kinetic or electric energy; the sonic engine, the sonic generator, and several types of sonic weapons working in infrasound regime; a site which has enough informations about Constantinescu's opera in rex research of Robert Nelson; in Romania there are at least four books (two of them written by Constantinescu himself) about the sonicity and its applications; important applications in the matter of energetics;

- Traian Vuia, one of the Aviation pioneers and a prolific inventor; he has invented the "Vuia steam generator" (an improved model of steam generators) and several types of engines which worked with hot air and steam (circulated in close circuit), with a very few consumption of classic fuel; in the '40th, he has made the combustion mixture with 80% water, 10% any kind of carburating material (liquid, solid or mixture- oil, alcohol, wood, sawdust, etc) and 10 % "the thermoionic additives"; the method was called "the thermoionic combustion" and it was the first use of WATER as... fuel into a combustion engine. Traian Vuia has returned in Romania after 1944 (he was a French resident, he also fought in the Franch Resistance during WW2) and Nicolae Moraru has taken the invention and the research work. In the late '50th, Moraru had the plan to revolutionized the Energy National System (dependent of the fuel supply given by the Soviet Union- natural gas and oil) by "the method of thermoionic combustion of coal" (Romania has important natural deposits of inferior coal- considered inappropriated for the modern electrothermal stations) but the idea was too dangerous and the dossier was strictly classified;

-Nicolae Moraru- the one who improved the Tesla weapon (by the way, there is nothing correct on the internet about this weapon- it was real, but the technology is completely different than the speculations and the stupidities put on internet- if You want to have some thought about the real Tesla weapon, read the public patents of the romanian inventor Constantin Vaideanu who try to replicate the Tesla technology between 1919 and 1933; unfortunately, Vaideanu succeded just the general idea but not the technological details).
I know that technology- in Romania in march 1963 the research-engineer and inventor Nicolae Moraru has begun a project which remains in the classified documentation as "the file 46150 from 01.03.1963". He used the classified documentation of Tesla and Constantin Vaideanu ( see the patents- "Dispositif pour la transmission de l'énergie des ondes extrêmement courtes à grandes distances" patents FR 36728 / 1930 and FR 603562 / 1936 snd also "Dispositif pour décharger l'électricité de l'atmosphère sur un rayon de 5 kilomètres" from the patent FR 524839 / 1921). Like Nikola Tesla and Michail Michailovici Filipov, Constantin Vaideanu used a powerful ultraviolet lamp and a special circular antenna for creating a radio wave-guide. The UV fascicle combined with the electromagnetic emission (radio) generates a transport of electricity : the positive ions drive inside the UV fascicle and the electrons (negative charges) goes hellicoidal in external trajectories around the UV fascicle. We have a polarized transport of charged particles; there is not a PLASMA (neutral ionized fluid) but two jets of charged and polarized particles.


Those fascicles of charged particles is self-accelerating because of the “restauration electric force” which tends to make the electrical neutrality inside the ionized fascicles containing charges both positive and negative. The huge power of restauration force actioned axially (longitudinal) in that case, causing the so-called “self-acceleration” of the charged fascicles. That interesting electrical transport inside a UV fascicle, on radio wave-guide- is also a natural “resonance pipe” like the artificial klystrons or the particle accelerators “with traveling wave” (in resonant cavities). I have the complete documents of the file 46150 / 1963, and I know the technology applied in “the geophysical war”. I’ve already wrote three books â€" “Romania and the Supreme Weapon” vol. I, II and III and I give a lot of technical informations inside that books; but they are written only in Romanian.
Nicolae Moraru used a special steam-generator and an air-compressor; the mixture steam/air represent the artificial cloud; he charged the air and water particles with electricity and then, focalized the ultraviolet beam on that mixture of air/water. By photoionization processus he obtained an ionizated fluid with positive and negative ions and a lot of electrons; after that- the electrical filter separated the polarized particles and in environment all that charged particles gone as polarized jets, not plasma : the positive ions gone inside the UV fascicle, the electrons all around the axial UV fascicle and the few negative ions, changed the polarity leaving electrons. The UV fascicle doesn’t dissipate, being driven of nearby to nearby, on the radio wave-guide which action all-around it, driven also the electrons.
We have an UV photoionization fascicle driven by the radio wave-guide which surrounding it, and that combination (UV-radio emission) drives and accelerates the particles (ions of Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen and a lot of electrons) derived from the initial mixture of steam/air (the artificial cloud).
Tesla (at the end of the XIXth Century), Vaideanu (between 1919 and 1931) and later, Moraru (after 1962, until 1968)- all of them have begun with the idea to copy the natural phenomenons of atmospheric transport of electricity- the clouds, the electrical polarization phenomenon inside the cloud and between different clouds, also between the soil surface and the upper atmosphere, etc.
Nicolae Moraru has very important patents in the matter of "MAGNETIC MOTORS" and another unconventional propulsion systems. For instance, the technology applied into the "Tesla-Moraru electronic weapon" could be applied in the field of relativistic propulsion systems.

Attached folders :
RO109405_the public patent for Moraru engine.pdf ( 244.41KB )
Modern Systems for aerospace propulsion.doc ( 474.5KB )
Image the Vuia aircraft compact steam engine 1300 HP
Image the electric generator with the cicloidal propeller Liciar (scheme)
Image the Coanda’s epaulettes

And several interesting things :
-for electric engines (electric cars) the secondary electric cells type lead-acid using the granulated electrodes and gelatinous electrolyte; much more efficient and light than the classic lead-acid batteries ; see the offer of SeaTronic and the old patents which established the basic technology of this improved type of electric secondary cell;
-for the improved combustion engines, see in the attachament the engine of Gianni Dotto, from 1965, which was capable to develop 11 HP/ Kg of engine ; see the link http://www.rexresearch.com/dottoeng/dottoeng.htm where I have posted an old article (in romanian) about this engine, and of course, the patent of Dotto;
-for improving the eolian generators, see the vortex wind generator called "Tornado", made in the '80th ; a "Tornado" turbine of 2 meters diameter could generates the same power as a classic wind turbine of... 56 meters in diameter !
Attached folders :
Seatronic_gel_battery.pdf ( 764.94KB )
GB_612931pdf.pdf ( 397.46KB )
GB_640_889.pdf ( 312.03KB )
Gianni_Dotto_engine.pdf ( 2.04MB )
Vortex_generator.pdf ( 499.68KB )

Best Regards,
Lucian Cozma

Well, You have in this attachament the public patent of Nicolae Moraru- RO109405 from 1992. The inventor submit the request in 22.11.1991 and the patent was been accepted in  1995, about 2 years after the inventor death. That is not "the pure magnetic energy engine" and not the most improved magnetic engine made by Moraru. However, it is an improved type of electric engine which could develop very good efficiency.

Thank you Lucian Stefan, you offer us a lot to study. I hope we'll be honoured by your input throughout the future, your new position permitting. Perhaps an apprentice can be your voice to the world?

Could you perhaps indicate which of the technologies you present here, are relative easy and important to replicate? You comments and directions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again, I think I can speak on behalf of all of this forum that we hope to see much more from you.

J

Hi.

The link is :

http://www.netdrive.ws/230057.html

the name is “File.zip”, press the button “Descarca acum” (in romanian) that is in english “Download now”

in contains 8 folders :

« Aerospace propulsion  Â» :

The VIRS;
The cheap space launcher;
The active nitrogen engine and the vortex devices for air liquefaction
The Laser-photon propulsion
Traian Vuia, Coanda and Liciar inventions.

The VIRS is “the aerospace vehicle for quick orbital intervention” or “vehicul destinat interventiei rapide in spatiu” and it was designed for fast missions; completely reusable it could be a VTOL aerospace vehicle, monoplace, three-engined, with vacuumpropulsion system for vertical take-off and landing. Incorporated a lot of unconventional technologies, that small aerospace vehicle uses the air and water for lift and propulsion. The drawings are hand-made by me.
The cheap classic spacecraft is been made from…elestomeric  rubber, driven by a small and cheap (quasi-conventional) rocket- I’ve gift as examples the public OES (the so-called Orbital Escape System, from the beginning of ‘70th) and the exceptional german rocket OTRAG (of the private company Orbital Transport und Raketen Aktiengesellschaft). Air-lounched from an Boeing 747 or An-225, the small rubber capsule could achieve a lot of important civilian and military missions on the Low Earth Orbit, with minor costs.
The oxygen  atomic radicals ressociation is catalyzed by the “active nitrogen” (the ionized nitrogen) and that process involved a big clearance of energy,- the contact of oxygen atomic radicals with active nitrogen generates a plasma of several tens of thousands Kelvin moving with 25-30 Km/sec, which could be accelerated by an MHD accelerator using appropriated magnetic fields; and by cooling that plasma become AIR, clear AIR…
The Laser-photon propulsion is an application of the Free Electrons Laser (FEL) in the field of space propulsion, the big difference between thr scheme of FEL and this rocket-engine scheme, consists in the extraction medium used for collecting the photons by bremsstrahlung. The FEL uses an electrons fascicle of high speed which rotates in magnetic field, while the rocket-engine uses the extreme bremsstrahlung generated by a thermonuclear plasma relatively dense. For collecting the bremsstrahlung (high energy or intense photon emission), that engine uses a FEL of high frequency capable to penetrate the thermonuclear plasma.
   


“Collector of atmospheric free electric charges” :
The Jules Guillot patents.


“Constantinescu’s sonicity applications”- generator, engine and guns.



“Energetics” :

The improved electric secondary cells;
The Gianni Dotto engine;
The vortex “Tornado” wind turbine.


“Huguenard vacuum turbine” :

The patents of Huguenard ; important applications in the field of energetics, propulsion and in the technology of uranium enriching.


“Improved steam engines” :

Articles from the interbelic « La Science et la Vie » revue  and about Traian Vuia patents.

« The artificial gills  Â»

For air-breathing under water without any storage of oxygen but extracting the oxygen from the water. Important applications also in the field of space technology, for the space suits and for the human colonies on Mars and another planets.

“The variable reluctance engine” of Jarret brothers and other inventions of them

The patents of Jean and Jaques Jarret â€" the improved model of magnetic variable reluctance engine and the improved model of the free pistons combustion engine; also, another interesting unconventional engines made by the same inventors.

I hope all that will like you.

Have fun !

The type of Moraru Engine which I have "replicated" , produces 117 times more energy than it consumes, and my model is not the most improved made by Moraru... In 1992, he made what he called "the engine with pure magnetic energy"- that was the most improved model using just permanent magnets and developing 7 HP/ each Kg of magnet.

1. The obvious question is why are you now not the richest man in the world rather than accept a job in the Military?
2. What did you do with this device?
3. Was it independently tested?

I ask these questions with repect.

Mark

@Lucian Stefan

I am wondering if you have had time to study the great works of Lawrence on the Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory or the famous and well repected works of "Mylow" on self running magnetic motors?

If you wish to perhaps want to expand into the western markets with your Technologies a good person who could assist you is Dennis Lee. Rather than give away everything here I can also strongly recommend the services of Sterling Allan who can assist you in selling your information that would normally be freely available to others. His track record is well documented in this area. The good thing is the information does not have to be supported by any independent or scientific validation with any of the above mentione people
Kind Regards
Mark

Hi, Mark

1. The obvious question is why are you now not the richest man in the world rather than accept a job in the Military?

- First of all, the one who try to make fortune with this invention, should succeed the suicide; there are powerful groups which invest billion dollars in oil bussines and they not joke when somebody disturbs their bussines; second- for comercial use, the bussinesman must have the rights of author, so- the intelectual property or the same (heritage or assignment of rights, for instance); then, he must obtain the homologation of the mechanical product ant the trade mark- easy to say, difficult to do when the market is fully controled by the oil bussines with all its ramifications (the industry of cars, of aviation, etc, etc); the third, the investor must have all the capital necessary to build (witth discretion) the entire factory- because if he says what he intends to do, he will be stopped before even his first action; nobody really finance that kind of initiative and a lot of influent groups should try to sabotage it.
A lot of state agencies declare that they are ready to finance "the green projects" and the people who want to find the replacement of "fossil fuels"- but there are just word, because they never finance the REAL new technology solutions...
More precisely, in Romania all the stuff (the families of the President and Prime Minister, the "bussines circles" that support the main political parties, etc) are directly involved in the biggest fossil fuel bussines- the import/export of natural gases at large scale (international bussines which involved multinational companies and the high level interests of many governments, not only in Europe) and another bussines which should be disturbed by the comercial promotion on the market of the unconventional technologies.
I am not the inventor (the author) and I have not the right of intelectual property for the patents or the technical documents that I just manage; I have no right to request the omologation or the trade mark or to do any other comercial purpose or action; I have not the huge amounts necessary for lounching in the national or international market of a new technology that could revolutionize the industry and... the life. I just can make some porposals for military or another special applications. I collect and keep the technical or scientific information and more or less, sometime I make demonstration devices for support my proposals. I cannot give on the internet the classified informations because I should become offender (outlow) and in that case I could be convicted, losing everything. I can do... what I do. Who knows- maybe this crisis or a war (...) will change dramatically the world situation and in the new conditions the classified technologies will come to light for good. There is no "conspiracy"- there are several groups of billionaires "spread" all other this planet which hold the money, the industry and all the global economy. They defend their privileges and their big bussines- I don't see any "conspiracy" in this.

2. What did you do with this device?

-As I've said, I'll try to use it as demonstration device for support my proposals for military applications. I don't hope to make any "revolution", I just want to keep alive this kind of scientific researches- and the state authorities to accept even some limited and not public applications. That's not much but it should be much than nothing; the technologies should be known by several people and the research programe should be kept...

3. Was it independently tested?

No. But there is no doubt about the efficiency value. Even without any recording equipment- is undoubtful that it develops much more energy than it consumes. When I'll make the demonstrations it will be tested by "independent" persons. But it is not necessary- the research program of "magnetic motor" has much than 36 years old in Romania, and I have nothing new and no personal invention or improvement, but just the old invention and I try to give it some concrete applications. The complete tests was been made years ago by a professional research team. For me, it is simple to use their documents and my small demonstration device.

@ Lucian,
Thank you for your detailed reply to my questions:
As for question 1. I agree in the past there have been interests that would rather see these technologies suppressed. However, governments and even the oil business have changed their thinking as they realise the limited resources available and environmental issues are real. There are now organisations that have large pools of money that are willing and able to support these new technologies. (Email me is you want more details)
If you do have a device you can demonstrate and would be allow others to test it, this can be arranged. I understand it is not your intellectual property, however that can be negotiated if the proof of concept can be demonstrated. (Money talks). These test can be done confidentially protecting your identity and privacy. Many devices that appear on this forum have been tested in this manner without public knowledge and the outcomes good and bad remain confidential.
Once again thank you for your reply
Mark

Quote from: Lucian Stefan on September 26, 2009, 03:26:12 PM

....
“The variable reluctance engine” of Jarret brothers and other inventions of them

The patents of Jean and Jaques Jarret â€" the improved model of magnetic variable reluctance engine and the improved model of the free pistons combustion engine; also, another interesting unconventional engines made by the same inventors.
....

Hi Lucian,

Thanks for the great file collection link, I have downloaded it, will take many hours to study them for sure. 
I am curious mainly in the variable reluctance magnet motor, if you do not mind, could you explain in plain English how the magnetic reluctance is varied and why does it not have the usual action-reaction effect (because I assume it has no or only a little  action-reaction effect)?

Regards,
Gyula

@ Lucian,
Thank you for your detailed reply to my questions:
As for question 1:
I agree in the past there have been interests that would rather see these technologies suppressed. However, governments and even the oil business have changed their thinking as they realise the limited resources available and environmental issues are real. There are now organisations that have large pools of money that are willing and able to support these new technologies. (Email me is you want more details)

If you do have a device you can demonstrate and would be allow others to test it, this can be arranged. I understand it is not your intellectual property, however that can be negotiated if the proof of concept can be demonstrated with the original owners. (Money talks). These test can be done confidentially protecting your identity and privacy. Many devices that appear on this forum have been tested in this manner without public knowledge and the outcomes good and bad remain confidential.

If your device does indeed demonstarte what you claim (even thought it may not be your orginal work) then you can be financed to continue your work.

Once again thank you for your reply
markdansie@bigpond.com (email)
Mark

The patents texts of Jarret brothers give all the explanations in terms of variable reluctance engine. Most of that patents are written in english...
The variable reluctance engine has ussually the rotor made from teeth of magnet and interleaved portions of iron (with susceptibility for induction) and the stator with many "polar pieces" which are in fact electromagnets capable to create the rotational magnetic field.
There are in the scheme a number of similarities between the ordinary electric circuit and the variable reluctance circuit :
- the electro-motive force has as equivalent the magneto-motive force ;
- the electric resistance has the equivalent of reluctance ;
- the electric current has the equivalent of magnetiic flux.

The induction made by the polar pieces of the stator act on the rotor material, which react disproportionately, heterogeneous, because its configuration (the teeth) and because the alternation of different material, that respond differently to the induction.
That engine has the big defficiency of the reactive torque which tend to brake the rotor in certain conditions. However, the variable reluctance engine need not the brushes and has a simple technology.

Jarret brothers have improved that kind of engine, they made a compact and efficient model in the '60th, with direct applications in the field of propulsion systems. If you wish to know much more about that engine and the Jarret brother's another interesting inventions, read the files from the given link.

@Lucian,
Hi, firstly my appollogies for not expressing myself well.
I was referring to your replication. Are you willing to have that tested ?

Your Quotes:
"For me, it is simple to use their documents and my small demonstration device.
"The type of Moraru "Engine which I have "replicated"

In the case of Ali, time will tell, but at least he is working with others on establishing correct measuring procedures.
Kind Regards
Mark

Quote from: markdansie on September 27, 2009, 04:50:21 PM
Are you willing to have that tested ?
In the case of Ali, time will tell, but at least he is working with others on establishing correct measuring procedures.

I've already answered at this question in another post - I have certain proposals for military applications and I will need strong arguments to get the necessary approvals; I'll use the original documents "inherited" from the inventor and my small demonstrative device.
You are right about Mr. Ali...

I tried the link posted by Lucian Stefan, and it took me to a XXX  site.   
Is that what you guys see when you click on it?


Question for Lucian Stefan:

Are you the one that we are talking about in this thread?  (user gilldarida on that Romanian forum?)

I am confused, forgive me.

Thanks for the Romanian patent of Mr. Moraru.

EM

Quote from: EMdevices on September 28, 2009, 02:58:10 PM
I tried the link posted by Lucian Stefan, and it took me to a XXX  site.   

Is that what you guys see when you click on it?

Hi EM,

Yes it is.  Just click on “Descarca acum” icon in the lower center part of that link and then download the Files.rar as Lucian explains in his Reply #32, Page 4. The file is 57.7MB rar file, you have to unrar it by using Winrar or any other rar extracting program.

Gyula

I cant access this file either, as descibed by EM. Porn site WWW.FILMEXXX.CC

it took me 2 hours to get that rar.after seeing it ... it's a waste of time.

It's not a total waste, but it has nothing more on the magnet motor sorry to say ;(

And the info on the fascinating "Sonic Motor" is limited only to some jpeg's (it was invented in World War One??) .

I think the problem with the RAR is, it appears to stream at a little less than 10k b/s .

The file has many cool old inventions that "Rex Research" would be interested in, tho ;)

Mr. Lucian, do you by chance have any photos of the magnet motor (either the original, or your replication)?

Thank you for sharing this info.

Best Regards,

Steve Windisch
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55551307954

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=cc7222321ad423aae7ba8e3c6e11ce20e04e75f6e8ebb871

I’ve posted on the forum just because I was asked this by an e-mail.

Someone asked me about the engine of eng. Moraru and I decided to post the public patent from 1995.

From the first sentence of the first message posted, I stated that I do not want to participate in discussions on this forum, but only to meet those demands. For sometime I keep out of participation in online discussions, because every time I reach the same result, the same dead line.The problem is that on the Internet and generally in public sources of information, are publicly available just certain information about the unconventional technologies, while in reality the scientific and technical information are completely different. You will find on the internet tons of comments about Nikola Tesla, Henri Coanda, Viktor Schauberger, George "Gogu" Constantinescu and many others, but you never could find  the real and complete technical information on their inventions and applications of these inventions. Furthermore, patents and other official documents do not contain anything other than the presentation of general principles, otherwise the schemes and devices submitted are incomplete or even false. For example all that is about Schauberger is FALSE, speculation without scientific support, sometimes even gross mistakes .Of his patents, open access is only to those which do not show much. It is obvious that everyone will try to emulate devices invented by Tesla, Coanda, Schauberger or other inventors who had special works, will fail in his attempt.
A complete failure or at best getting some weaker performance than those claimed by the inventor himself. In this situation there are many inventions in the field of OverUnity which otherwise are found freely on the Internet and in various databases. Also the case of the generator of Michel Meyer. I pointed out that the principle applied by Meyer is correct and functional, but that does not mean that the complete technology of that device you'll could find free somewhere…
I claim that I know what they did in reality all these inventors, and I even know this. But my information are part of legal “know-how” with a clear legal status. Datas are part of my activity and of my business, and not doing object of donations or charitable works. Moreover, on many of my documents, I have no right of ownership so I can not freely dispose of them. Plans and my work is for applications restricted, to discrete regime. Can I talk on the forums, no one forbids it to me-but I always talk with partners who will end up by asking me to give them detailed informations that I am not allowed to declassify, not having this competence and the authority to do something like that.
Some people offer me money but I never ask that. A Romanian senator asked me few weeks ago why I talk about all that inventions if  I don’t publish finally anything… Because the people must know certain information that would serve as the starting point to discover the truth through its own- see the patents of Moraru, Comstantinescu, Huguenard or Guillot and the list is still much longger.. Not everyone but a few people will finally get real results. The people who have good knowledge of physics and engineering and the ability to do calculations and tests; those who do not expect to find ready-made results and who work with perseverance in the scientific research.

On internet forums, the people expect to take the ready-made results of the scientific research made by collectives of engineering researchers in tens of years of secret activity. And here we enter each time on a dead line...  

Therefore my participation in discussions on the Internet is completely inappropriate-in which case I withdrew from discussions on all forums. It is best to remain in my small circle of my affairs.
Unconventional technologies are a reality, but unfortunately a reality not tangible by the general public. Maybe this economic crisis or a major crisis (like a war) would occur in the near future, and will force removal of the light for all the secret technologies. For good. Only major events can make this change in the world. Read carefully the text of the Nicolae Moraru’s patent, because it gives some very ingenious solutions-that patent (public) is only a glimpse of a technical-scientific creation much more important, that still not become in public domain. As usual, the text does not give the complete schemes to achieve the real engine but a general principle of functioning.

From principle to good efficiency applications, is a long way that not everyone will succeed in a cross.

Lucian,

I appreciate whatever information you can provide, and I hope you don't get yourself into trouble publishing what you are not supposed to not publish.  You probably work for the Romanian Patent Office and have access to all the patent databases, being a lawyer/attorney.   (patent = brevete)

Thank you for the information you have provided. 

I have done some research and spoke with a former engineer that PERSONALLY MET WITH NICU MORARU in the early 80's,  and this gentlemen also had an invention that was confiscated by the "Division IV of the SECURITATE",  which deals with scientific information, and "contra informati"  or COUNTER INTELLIGENCE.   

He also told me about the so called "geophysical" weapon you mentioned,   the whole Romanian country talked about that weapon and bragged about it, and as a result this story became embellished and developed into something belonging to SciFi, but in reality it was nothing more then anti-tank missiles obtained from the Nazi's, (with some improvements by the Romanians, I'm sure) and they only shot at 4 or 5 Russian tanks and completely melted them, since these were armor piercing missiles with a high caloric content that melted the armor steel from the inside out.  (possible phosphor and magnesium added to the warhead payload, my guess)  These frightened the Russians who did not expect any resistance from the Romanians and abandoned their plans of invasion.   

If I may make a comment about the motor you posted.   This motor is a variable reluctance motor in 3 stages.  The patent does not say how to switch the power to the modules, but anybody who is knowledgeable about motors can figure it out.   You basically power one set and the rotor attracts itself to maximize the magnetic energy and to close the air gap,  then you disconnect and recover the energy from the kick back, then at the same instant you power up the next module or section and the motor attracts itself to the next angular position, etc...   This is nothing more then a type of STEPPER motor, but in a different configuration.  Nothing new, and not over unity.   The basic claim is that it does away with the commutator and brushes, and hence won't have any sparks at the brushes and therefore can be used in a medium where there are combustible gases surrounding it, so it won't light them off.  He does claim an efficiency above the DC motor, but does not say how much.

My contact did not think highly of Nicu Moraru, as you seem to think.   He said he just rehashed old ideas.  He said,  "Romanians are not the smartest in the world, as we would like to think, years of communism has brainwashed us to think were the smartest and greatest in the world, nothing but worthless propaganda."   

Anyway, I'm not sure if that's true or not, but I don't see anything new that hasn't been tried before.

Just my comments for whatever they're worth.

EM

Dear "EMdevices" (or "Paul" maybe...),

First of all, as miscellaneous, I would like to mention that my predecessors (for instance grandfather and his cousin) had high positions within the Communist regime, even in the office of President Nicolae Ceusescu.

I know very well what did Nicolae Moraru in secret and public regime and I possess full documentation of all his research activity. Indeed, the Directia a IV-a a Securitatii Statului (in fact Serviciul de Contraspionaj) seized all the documentation and the demonstration models made by Moraru and his team of research-engineers. That is why these documents can not be found in public data bases, not even at the National Office for Inventions and Trademarks Patents in Bucharest.

I do not have special relationship to the Patent Office in Bucharest,- their databases do not contain nothing special, all that is truly special is in other databases.



On your comments about the patent posted here :
- I haven’t said that it would be the"pure magnetic energy engine" but I’ve said that is just a improved model of the classic electric motor;  improved enough to deserve being posted to the OverUnity;
- on your comments about the engine performance, you are wrong.

Because in the First of October my vacation ends, I will have no time for discussion . Please do not ask for my intervention anymore.

Each is free to believe what he want to believe and to comment as he considers appropriate, but it need not to announce me about that ...

Thank you for understanding. I wish you success.

LCS

@ Lucian,

I sent you a personal message.

Also, I want to comment on this paragraphs:

QuoteOn your comments about the patent posted here :
- I haven’t said that it would be the"pure magnetic energy engine" but I’ve said that is just a improved model of the classic electric motor;  improved enough to deserve being posted to the OverUnity;
- on your comments about the engine performance, you are wrong.

Yes I agree, it deserves posting on overunity.com, please don't take offense.  In addition,  I want to ask why I am wrong about the engine performance.  I was mainly stating what somebody translated for me from the patent.  It doesn't say what the performance is specificaly.   

Can you tell us exactly what this performance is, or should be?

EM

Seems to be something simple, almost rudimentary. Seems to be a step-by-step engine or somethimg like a variable reluctance engine- but in fact is neither one nor the other... In fact, the patent does nothing more than to describe a certain PRINCIPLE. That is THE ONLY public patent of Moraru engines.

The invention relates to a rotary electric motor, powered by electric continuous current taken supplied by electrical batteries, or by converting from the current of public networks and industrial power supply. This type of engine, original, can be used in all activities which is currently used in conventional engines known, DC or AC. They are known electric rotary machines (engines) and DC, AC single phase and triphasic, the development of mechanical work being made by the rotor winding with electrical conductors, generally the copper winding ends being welded to the collector on that slides the carbon brushes to transmit electric current for winding, to create magnetic field on rotor. The purpose of the invention consists in simplifying the industrial manufacture, reducing raw material consumption and workmanship, complete removal of the winding on rotor, also eliminates the collector and slide system, and achieve significant savings in energy consumption, to use these machines in industrial and domestic activities.
Electric rotary machines, according to the invention, remove the rotor windings, collector and system slide which is a substantial economic disadvantage to the industrial production of electric motors today.
DC electric rotary machines, according to the invention, removes the disadvantages mentioned in that it is provided with external electromagnets fixed to the casing-state and internal electromagnetic fixed to the yoke which make the closing of magnetic flux lines. Between the exterior and interior electromagnets are the magnetized ring conductors that replace electric conductors. Magnetic conductors are made of siliceous material or ferrous magnetic material. Electromagnets interior and exterior are excited using excitation coils made by winding on the pole pieces, the coils being supplied with DC electricity taken from a battery or from AC public poer supply line and converted in DC.
By applying the invention, are obtained following advantages:
-simplify construction by reducing the time of manufacture;
-economy by replacing the copper winding of the rotor and the collector,
-creates the condition for use in explosive gas environment, by eliminating the collector and slide system ,
-the reduced consumption of electricity, because the concept of using magnetic conductors and the electric conductors being substituted in the sense that in the calculation of new types of electric cars, according to the invention, no longer uses the formula that shows that power in watts is equal to the intensity multiplied by the voltage, this formula being replaced by the notion that driving force is based on electro-magnetic induction created by lines of magnetic flux applied to the polar surface.
It still gives an example of realization of the invention, in connection with Figures 1 and 2 that represent:
- Figure 1, longitudinal section through the entire assembly,
- Figure 2, which defines cross-sections of the R, S and T modules being offset each over at 120 degrees.
Electric rotary machines of continous current without collector, according to the invention, consists of three modules marked with letters R. S and T, each module is composed of two halves in the form of semi-disc, mechanically coupled between them, having excitation coils connected in series, parallel or mixed, by considerations.
Pole pieces are offset each other at 120 degrees, each of the three spinning rotors is rotating between magnetic fields of attraction and repulsion flows created by modules R, S and T. The continous current rotating electrical machine according to the invention, is composed of shell 1 which supports the entire assembly consisting of outer pole pieces 2, on which is the excitation winding 3, 4 is the yoke for closing lines of magnetic flux between pole pieces 2 and  inner polar pieces 5, excited by the coil 6. Shields 7 to 8 and bushes camps 9 form systems of protection and sliding for the shaft 10, on which are fixed the rotors 11 which will support the magnetic conductors 12, causing hardening of the rotor through the nuts 13 and spacers 14, the caps 15 slipped protecting system.

Here is a professional translation of the Moraru motor patent.

I hope you all are grateful for the time I spent in formatting it so it looks nice.

EM

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=343

Quote from: EMdevices on September 29, 2009, 12:57:18 PM
He also told me about the so called "geophysical" weapon you mentioned,   the whole Romanian country talked about that weapon and bragged about it, and as a result this story became embellished and developed into something belonging to SciFi, but in reality it was nothing more then anti-tank missiles obtained from the Nazi's, (with some improvements by the Romanians, I'm sure) and they only shot at 4 or 5 Russian tanks and completely melted them, since these were armor piercing missiles with a high caloric content that melted the armor steel from the inside out.  (possible phosphor and magnesium added to the warhead payload, my guess)  These frightened the Russians who did not expect any resistance from the Romanians and abandoned their plans of invasion.   

that weapon you mention here was a hydrogen-fluoride high impulse laser and by the way the first hydrogen-chloride impulse laser was developed by Coanda.The Russians were frightened because just 3 mobile laser units with one mobile power generating unit were capable to hold a tank division.don't ask how do i know this, take it for granted ... or not, but it's real.

Quote from: rotaryfcg on September 30, 2009, 03:23:55 AM
that weapon you mention here was a hydrogen-fluoride high impulse laser and by the way the first hydrogen-chloride impulse laser was developed by Coanda.The Russians were frightened because just 3 mobile laser units with one mobile power generating unit were capable to hold a tank division.don't ask how do i know this, take it for granted ... or not, but it's real.

I don't ask you "how do You know this", because... You know nothing.
Henri Coanda return in Romania beggining with 1969, one year AFTER the romano-soviet conflict from august 1968. Coanda work in Romania from 1970 until his death in 1972. The Tesla-Muraro supreme weapon was been achieved beggining with march 1963 and had no connection with the laser technics. That weapon was been used in 1968, and it VAPORIZED two soviet armored vehicles and a "pathfinder" aircraft. The research file was been recorded as 46150/1963 from Nicolae Moraru, Nicolae Tiureanu and Romulus Murg. Its title- "Installation and process for Electronic Air Defense". Nothing to do with laser technology or Coanda.

This activity in this special program was controled by the Military Counterintelligence; one of the main tasks of the Counterintelligence Service is to make a fake story in the course of what ordinary is called "the informative  intoxication". So was born later the story about the "lasers of Coanda", although an elementary research on this story proves it is anachronistic...

Please, when you post speculations- mention this, or the simple mention- "in my opinion" or "I think that...". I don't have an opinion and I think nothing about the Tesla-Moraru Weapon, I HAVE THE COMPLETE AND ORIGINAL DOCUMENTATION.

Is the fig.1 a cutted view of fig.2 ? Because i don't understand on the fig.1, the piece 2 and 5 should be the same "ring" but they are not on fig.2. And if i cut fig.2 to draw fig.1 in my mind, some "rings" are missing on fig.1.
Maybe i just have missed something but i can't understand the complete draw. I am the only one ?

Quote from: jibbguy on September 29, 2009, 12:09:14 PM

And the info on the fascinating "Sonic Motor" is limited only to some jpeg's (it was invented in World War One??) .
Steve Windisch
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55551307954

Constantinescu's sonic engine patents. Link : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E062ODEP

Engine drawings :

:

@Lucian,
you have had several requests of perhaps showing your replication or if you would be happy to have your motor (replication) tested independently. You have not given a straight answer, in fact your answer would rate highly as propaganda.
The trouble here is , we do appreciate your efforts, but just remeber there are some smart people here.
most of what you talked about has been well researched.
So I get back to my questions,
1. Are you happy to show a photo of your replication? If not, why not.
2. Are you happy to have it tested independently for the OU you have claimed (I can arrange this)

i am sad you will be leaving us. I havnt had so much fun since Mylow.
Kind Regards
Mark

Someone is shopping for bargains......

Quote from: markdansie on September 30, 2009, 03:14:39 PM
Mark

Do not try to blackmail me.
I’ve already stated that the information and demonstration devices that I've created are my business and I’m not going to make charity donations. Demonstrations are made exclusively for military applications. You do not order me what to present to the public or what to do with the information I posses.
Explicit images contain technical information and technical information are not free nor for civil market sales. Images that do not contain technical information (for example a case of electric motor that is not seen nothing inside) are without value and it can be anything you want to imagine.
You states that you are not stupid. Yeah, me neither .

i've found something interesting , someone could do some translation if needed.

"Instalatia aceasta de atac geofizic presupune asadar emiterea de fascicule electrice de semne contrare cu deplasare complementara si care sunt purtate si accelerate pe unda radio sau pe „ghid de unda radio”.

Transportul ionilor se putea face pana la nivelul ionosferei, creandu-se de acolo adevarate „baraje” de sarcini electrice, acestea fiind realizate prin incarcarea straturilor respective pe un anumit volum, cu electroni, ioni pozitivi si negativi. In straturile ionosferice, ionii sunt negativi.

Fata de aceasta situatie, savantul Nicolae Moraru a inteles ca mai intai ar trebui ca instalatia sa lucreze pe canalul negativ, creand o supraincarcare pe acest semn, si abia apoi sa declanseze asupra ionosferei canalul pozitiv.

Arma aceasta a putut fi utilizata in mai multe moduri:

    * arma climaterica-utilizarea fasciculelor electrice in scopul de a crea o puternica supraincarcare electrica intr-o anumita zona a atmosferei joase, avand drept efect fortarea unei deplasari de aer si mai ales de umiditate dintr-o anumita zona, catre o alta, potrivit diferentei de sarcina electrica dar si de presiune; in acest fel, arma poate fi utilizata mai ales in zonele care se afla in relativa apropiere a unei coaste, deci pentru teritoriile care au deschidere la mare. Cu ajutorul acestei arme de transport electronic, se poate crea un dezechilibru atmosferic de asa natura incat sa fie colectata umiditatea atmosferica de deasupra zonei maritime si din apropierea coastei, pentru a fi deplasata cateva sute de kilometri in interiorul tarmului, unde se romania-arma-suprema-128893vor produce precipitatii masive, complet anormale si care pot provoca importante prejudicii.;
    * arma climaterica, dar de data aceasta prin creearea unor regiuni de atmosfera foarte incalzita (prin descarcari electrice), ceea ce creaza mai departe un dezechilibru termic si barometric major, fapt care declanseaza puternice furtuni si chiar tornade sau altfel de manifestari climaterice extreme; pentru aceasta arma este reglata la o emisie puternica;
    * arma antiaeriana si anticosmica- destinata distrugerii prin sublimare a apartelor de zbor aflate in atmosfera ori in spatiul cosmic; nu este nici o greseala in text-„sublimare”, pentru ca temperatura la care este brusc ridicat corpul tintei este atat de mare, incat il sublimeaza, nu-l topeste!
    * arma sol-sol- care poate actiona pornind de la simplul regim de arma antitanc sau antiinfanterie si pana la arma de nimicire in masa, cu efecte de genul „Tunguska-1908”.

Importanta strategica a unui asemenea sistem de armament este neindoielnica, iar capacitatea acesteia de a fi utilizata in cele mai variate situatii tactice face ca arma geofizica de tip Tesla-Moraru sa devina un fel de arma universala, ce poate fi adaptata pentru orice aplicatii!

In 1967, Romania putea dobori… sateliti!!

Pentru apararea Romaniei impotriva oricarei agresiuni externe, dar in special impotriva Uniunii Sovietice, pana in 1967 a fost realizata o arma de o factura cu totul si cu totul speciala, denumita „instalatia elctronica de aparare antiaeriana si antisatelit”.


Era vorba despre un procedeu si o instalatie de aparare antiaeriana prin intermediul careia se creau baraje de sarcini electrice in straturile inalte ale ionosferei sar si in paturile inferioare ale atmosferei, dupa necesitate.

Astfel de baraje erau obtinute prin incarcarea straturilor, pe un anumit volum al acestora, cu electroni, pozitroni si ioni. Se stie ca, pana in 1963, apararea antiaeriana, antiracheta si antisatelit era bazata exclusiv pe utilizarea energiei cinetice (de impact) a unor proiectile realizate din materiale solide (metalice), transportate pana la contactul cu tinta prin intermediul unui mijloc de propulsie, fie propriu fie al unui aparat purtator.

Aceste mijloace de aparare antiaeriana, antiracheta si antisatelit sunt fatalmente foarte limitate- ca raza de actiune, in eficienta lor, in costurile si tehnologiile pe care le presupun, periculozitatea manipularii acestora- si, in plus, pot fi detectate si contracarate de catre inamic cu destula usurinta…

Mijloacele de aparare de la nivelul anului 1963 ( ca si de acum) constau in instalatii radar destinate descoperirii tintelor der si ghidarii proiectilelor catre aceste tinte. Astfel de sisteme de aparare sunt costisitoare si ineficiente, mai ales daca inamicul lanseaza grupuri de rachete insotite de bruiaj radar, rachete anti-radar etc.

Un alt mare dezavantaj este legat de necesitatea unui timp de reactie cel mai adesea foarte scurt. Adica, de la momentul in care radarul a sesizat mijlaoacele de lupta inamice si pana la momentul producerii atacului propriu-zis, sistemul de aparare trebuie sa realizeze identificarea certa a pozitiei inamicului si trimiterea mijloacelor de contracarare a acestuia, care, la randul lor, trebuie sa aiba timpul necesar pentru a ajunge la tinta. Din toate aceste cauze, apararea antiaeriana clasica este costisitoare si ineficienta, fiind cel mult realizat pentru distante si regiuni limitate.

Nicolae Moraru a atras atentia asupra fenomenului exploziei meteoritilor de mare viteza pe timpul in care acestia strabat ionosfera (deci, nici macar nu au intrat in cadrul straturilor relativ dense ale atmosferei), demostrand ca fenomenul de explozie amintit este cauzat de catre intrarea meteoritului cu foarte mare viteza in cadrul unor paturi intens ionizate.

El a gandit sa aplice acelasi fenomen si pentru satelitii inamici, atat doar ca in acest sens era necesar o amplificare deosebita a gradului de ionizare din cadrul paturilor superioare ale ionoisferei, pe care in mod obisnuit le parcurg satelitii artificiali. Evident, aceasta ionizare artificiala a straturilor inalte ale ionosferei trebuie realizata artificial cu ajutorul unei instalatii aflate la sol.

Invazia sovietica din 1968-volatilizata de Arma Suprema!

In anul 1908 a fost observata o puternica descarcare electrica pe cer, urmata de formarea unui glob de foc care a explodat formand unde de soc de o putere uriasa. Fenomenul s-a petrecut intr-o regiune pustie aflata in nordul Siberiei. Cercetarile la fata locului au pus in evidenta urmarile produse de unda de soc si energia termica dezvoltata cu acea ocazie.

Cercetand configuratia undei de soc, oamenii de stiinta au constatat ca este similara aceleia produse de o bomba nucleara care a explodat in aer la o anumita inaltime. S-a gasit urma epicentrului si felul in care s-au dezvoltat si deplasat undele de soc concentrice. Cum arme atomice nu existau in 1908 si nici urmele de infestare radioactiva nu au fost gasite, a fost clar de la bun inceput ca explozia nu a fost produsa de o incarcatura nucleara. „Dar atunci ce a produs-o ?”- a fost intrebarea fireasca pe care si-au pus-o oamenii de stiinta de pretutindeni.

Pana la urma s-a stabilit, fara prea mare convingere, ca ar fi fost vorba de explozia unui meteorit… Ipoteza este complet neverosimila pentru cei care sunt in cunoastinta de cauza…  Explozia unui meteorit la o altitudine atat de joasa… ma rog, sa zicem ca s-ar putea petrece, dar lasa urme evidente si nenumarate fragmente de diverse dimensiuni, ca si un adevarat nor de pulbere in paturile superioare ale atmosferei.

Tocmai pentru ca nu a fost nici vorba de asa-ceva, unii oameni de stiinta au pretins (in mod pertinent, altminteri)  ca a fost vorba de o cometa sau un fragment de cometa, care este compus din gheata, deci prin volatilizare si explozie era normal sa nu se mai gaseasca nimic… Mda, dar „cometa” asta nu este un obiecintunecat si imprevizibil, asa cum este un meteorit din roca sau metal, este un fragment din material care reactioneaza energic fata de vantul solar, ca sa nu mai vorbim de faptul ca se face praf cu mult inainte de a ajunge in straturile dense ale atmosferei. Ori, in cazul nostru, explozia s-a cam produs prin regiunea medie a troposferei, nici macar in stratosfera…!

In fine, prin 1968, adica la 60 de ani de la experimentul impresionant care a fost realizat de catre Tesla, armata romana se afla in fata iminentei unei invazii armate sovietice, de „restabilire a ordinii” in cadrul conducerii de partid si de stat de la Bucuresti. Cu acea ocazie arma inventata in 1963 si realizata de mai multe prototipuri experimentale pana in 1967, a fost testata in conditii reale de lupta…

Cu ajutorul acestei arme s-a reusit volatilizarea unor tancuri si a unui avion sovietic. S-a lucrat cu jeturi electrice care, puse in contact cu corpul sau in regiunea tintei, dadeau o temperatura de ordinul a 15.000-20.000 C la care nici un metal cunoscut nu mai poate fi nici macar in starea topita, ci se volatilizeaza! Adica trece din starea solida direct in starea gazoasa…"
by Lucian Cozma; same as Lucian Stefan? ::)

hi Lucian
It was never in my interest to blackmail you. Blackmail implies I will do certain actions to harm you if you do not do as I suggest. That is not the case. i was merely saying can you support your claims in anyway?
I would never want you to disclose this publically if you do not want to. However I do know organisations (non milatary) who would be happy to test your device, sign Non Disclosure Agreements etc etc to fully protect you.
I cannot see why a self running or OU magnetic motor would be such a threat.
if you need reference about my discressions please send me a private email.
markdansie@bigpond.com
if you have nothing, that is ok as well and enjoy your milatary service.
Kind Regards
Mark

Quote from: Lucian Stefan on September 30, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Do not try to blackmail me.
I’ve already stated that the information and demonstration devices that I've created are my business and I’m not going to make charity donations. Demonstrations are made exclusively for military applications. You do not order me what to present to the public or what to do with the information I posses.
Explicit images contain technical information and technical information are not free nor for civil market sales. Images that do not contain technical information (for example a case of electric motor that is not seen nothing inside) are without value and it can be anything you want to imagine.
You states that you are not stupid. Yeah, me neither .

;D
"Interesting" thread... 

What exactly is your point?
Ok, it's 'your own' business, you are not here for charity, yet you're interested in military applications...

Again, what are you doing here?

Showing up a little? Superiority feelings? What?
Without any "Proof of a concept", you have no chance...
It's pathetic, really.

I saw most of the "documents" presented here back in the mid-nineties...

Lol, a good one, mixing Mr.Coanda's name with this "kitchen" of yours...

Super-electromotors? Propeller antigravity? WooWoo? Free Energy?
;D

Mr. Lucian,

Thanks for the link ;) I see it was Patented in 1920 .

If i may ask, what was your personal "take" on this technology? Valuable?
_________

As far as skeptical viewpoints go here on this forum, it is part of the territory. This last spring we were "assaulted" with a professionally-done psy-ops campaign over a fake magnet motor. Apparently who ever it was who perpetrated it wanted us to be discredited and disabused of our views so we would stop studying these technologies on our own... the only way they have to stop Open Source from succeeding, short of martial law, lol.

The attempt failed ;)

However, there is a serious undercurrent of suspicion in it's wake, besides the normal skepticism. Personally, i believe investigating all these devices / technologies that come along is worthy, and a valid enterprise: We never know where the kernel of genius may grow in a Member's mind when studying them; or in which direction it will manifest.

With the Open Source paradigm, the time for serious skepticism comes naturally; when the replications are being done and tested. No phony devices will get by that. However, devices that are NOT Open Sourced do not allow us this protective barrier and potential End To Skepticism when they are proved valid: Nor do they allow the planet to benefit from them...

.... As i think you must agree that attempting to market a free energy device, as if it were a new fruit "juicer", or water purifier, is a very difficult, and possibly dangerous, proposition. Not only from those who do not want it to happen; but from "normal" competitive pressures that happen every day in business (there are many "dirty tricks" going on with new conventional products too).

And CREDIBILITY, the greatest hurdle to overcome, is a looming wall that must be gotten over somehow.

Therefor i would urge you to reconsider your course. The folks here could help your R&D efforts. There will certainly be enough fame and fortune to go around should Dr. Moraru's 1983 motor be widely replicated, verified, and reach Public Awareness.

Remember that such a device would have literally thousands of possible Parallel Applications. You could not even hope to Patent them all. But NONE will likely ever see the light of day if you attempt to go on as a lone and secretive inventor, it is just too easy to stop the device from reaching market. This we have seen literally hundreds of times.

Quote from: spinner on October 01, 2009, 06:52:24 AM

"Interesting" thread... 
What exactly is your point?
Ok, it's 'your own' business, you are not here for charity, yet you're interested in military applications...
Again, what are you doing here?

he was speaking of desinformation , secrecy , military applications , business ...
and some incedibles realisations that nobody can appreciate

here , all is free and open source and I think nobody has military career

so why he is not  himself the desinformation man ? another mylow ? MIB ? ...

He's a hard core believer that is presenting his documents as hard core facts on OU.
This behavior is typical for the "Free Energy" fanatic.
They have never actually seen a self running device, yet they say they have got one
or seen one, that's working several hundred percents overunity.
When asked about the device they get back with all kinds of strange answers or
excuses of why they can't show it or reveal anything of importance.
Most of the FE fanatics also mention threats and cover-ups to make their story
more believable for other hard core fanatics. But the rest of us just see right through
the cloud of imaginations and avoid getting spoofed by these guys.

Quote from: YeahRight on October 02, 2009, 10:30:30 AM
He's a hard core believer that is presenting his documents as hard core facts on OU.
This behavior is typical for the "Free Energy" fanatic.
They have never actually seen a self running device, yet they say they have got one
or seen one, that's working several hundred percents overunity.
When asked about the device they get back with all kinds of strange answers or
excuses of why they can't show it or reveal anything of importance.
Most of the FE fanatics also mention threats and cover-ups to make their story
more believable for other hard core fanatics. But the rest of us just see right through
the cloud of imaginations and avoid getting spoofed by these guys.

lol

@YeahRight,
welcome to the fold, and no doubt you will have fun here.
I agree with your last post re fanatical supporters of OU
You will of course come under attack as you point out the obvious. (go read the Mylow threads)
My only regret is I didnt think up a name like yours.
I hope you keep an open mind. But do not hold back on your opinion.
I have learned one lesson, it always pays to be polite.
Mark

Hello Lucian Stefan,
you said to have replied the Moraru motor with a cop over over an over unity.
After viewed the patent, I think this motor can't run. Simply can't.
It's the same old thing: a static, stationary magnetic field and a rotor inside. The rotor search the minimum state of energy and stop. None new concept, none new design.
The external and internal stator electromagnets energized by DC current create a static magnetic field (so why not use simple magnets ?): why the rotor would rotate ? Only for the shape of the magnetic elements ? I don't see any imbalancement of the rotor : you ?
Maybe I can mistake. Can you tell me where's my mistake ?

Thanx

Icarus

Quote from: markdansie on October 02, 2009, 02:27:42 PM
@YeahRight,
welcome to the fold, and no doubt you will have fun here.
I agree with your last post re fanatical supporters of OU
You will of course come under attack as you point out the obvious. (go read the Mylow threads)
My only regret is I didnt think up a name like yours.
I hope you keep an open mind. But do not hold back on your opinion.
I have learned one lesson, it always pays to be polite.
Mark

Thank you for the welcome. I will try to follow your advice to be polite but sometimes
it's hard to hold back when complete ignorance is presented as the truth.
The main problem of the FE enthusiasts is their lack of electrical understanding.
As they undertake their experiments they make crude measurement misstakes
simply because they don't know how to perform basic energy efficiency calculations
on the test results.
And of course....most of them are blind to reality. They can't face it when they are close to
realise they haven't got OU. Peoples minds are difficult to open once they are closed down.

If I just may add an comment.

Same sh...*** as usual... One claims OU but again for certain reasons as:
* big oil life threats
* contract silence
* merchant interests
* u name what

the individual would not tell any detail, only speaks chinese wisdom and provoce to be admires.
My question..WFT are you doings in a forum like this in the first place, assuming that you do possess a secret!

Bona ziua,
Baroutologos

Giving him the benefit of the doubt, he was here trying to share information without getting himself into trouble, maybe to point other researchers and experimenters in the 'right' direction.  That's the most positive spin I can put on it.  But even if that were true, it's just another case of someone putting their own individual selfish interests above the interests of every other living thing on this planet.  And so, even in the best case scenario, it's pretty low behaviour in my opinion.  And if he was just plain bullshitting, whether he realized it or not (ie. deliberately misleading others or genuinely delusional.), then that's just plain pathetic.  In any case, it's just the latest variation on a long string of unsubstantiated claims made in this area.  At least he had a good story, with lots of historical references and stuff.  Very entertaining.  Well done.

..Ok, i'll take the bait... This should be fun.
_______________________

Oh boy a new one....  But are they really "new", or simply "re-treads" coming back with new names (hehehe that happens a lot here)? 

Using ad hominem attack and derision is so out of date... It is so "neocon". And it pretty much tells us exactly what they are and what they are doing here.

Lol, don't you know that bush-league stuff went long ago? It is completely ineffective, besides... And that is the real sin: Poor crafting. 

You see, it's very simple: Legitimate members, people who are seriously interested in studying these technologies to evaluate their worth one way or another, would not do that. Since you are obviously just here to fuck with people in a poorly-crafted attempt to push your agenda, why would anyone listen to you then, when they realize what you are?

See, you've already ruined your purpose...

Lol i am always surprised these "people" expect others to take crap from them.... Just because they are some nameless entity on a forum.

I am quite sure, that no one would put up with it from them in RL ;)

The "geophysical" weapon is fantasized by Lucian Stefan to be related to Tesla and the Siberian explosion in 1908 in the region of Tunguska.   (and some of you might believe the same thing)

But this is incorrect, as there is clear chemical and mineral traces from a comet explosion and they know exactly the height above the ground that the explosion occurred, due to the shock waves effect and the standing trees at the center of the explosion, etc...

Like I mentioned, I talked to a person that was IN THE MILITARY at the time (1968) when the Russians tried to invade Romania, and this "weapon" they used, was nothing more then missiles, end of story.   

Lucian tries to tell us it was a tropospheric ionic discharges, etc.. etc.., what a bunch of bullshit. This only indicates that his reality is not well grounded due to his training.  (A lawyer, and not a scientific field)

I appreciate some of the other information he provides regarding the motors, but it's nothing new, and he fantasizes himself to be a special person "in the know", so if it makes him feel good to play games like this, oh well.

Posting the front page from an old patent application is equivalent with nothing.  Just because you have the original document also doesn't mean it is what you say it is, and showing me one page doesn't make me believe the bullshit. 

The only merit of this tread is the Motor.

My question:  What is the switching method?  Because obviously this is not going to turn by itself without any active switching, in other words,  if I replace the electromagnets with permanent magnets, it is not a permanent magnet motor that just turns without any energy input. 


EM

I live near Romania and am there frequently. It is without doubt the most corrupt and dishonest place I have ever had the pleasure of visiting.

I know I am new here..but in regards to Romania and the kind of scams that erupt from there I am quite familiar.  The guy with the SECRET technology MAY be 100% legit, however I would not bet one slightly used electron on it.

@jibbguy,
alas I am not a new one, but I did change my account two years ago to my real name. Do you want my house address and phone number as well. I am not sure what you mean about Bush, I live in Australia so we didnt really take much notice.
Guess what I spend my real life doing (RL) Testing devices the world over (or organising tests) and where my associates can, assisting to progress these technologies.
However the sad reality is the vast majority are a result of:
1. Self delusion
2. Lack of understanding of measuring power in and out
3. Scam artists wanting to cash in.
We keep an open mind, but at the end of the day if its not OU, cannot be closed loop..then its at least a good hobby.
Healthy skepticism is just as important as a healthy imagination.
We all have our roles
Point me to one technology you believe is OU and I will follow it up. You will be surprised how many that have appeared in this forum have been tested over the years, and at the inventors request the results are normally left confidential.
One of our main roles is to sort out the wankers early. We are about promoting new technologies but legit ones.
Kind Regards
Mark

Mark,

You might want to check out Rosemary Ainslie's Switched Heater with a claimed COP>17.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg203219#new

btw, I'll be doing some tests on this shortly.

.99

PS. What was your username before you changed it?

Lol Mark, obviously i have read your post many times here, and was not referring to you ;)

Skeptics are more interested in learning about the device /technology, than pissing on others or pressing their agenda: This is just one of several ways you can tell them apart from shills... And lol, this place has more than it's quota of shills. I got no problem with genuine skeptics who are generally polite: And i would agree with you that they have their place. "Shills" i got a big problem with: And so should we all here, because often it is like they declared war on us, and we are standing there saying "Love and Light to you!" hehehe. Well i haven't seen one yet, here or other places, that was worth the powder to blown them to hell when it came to forum debate.

Sorry Mark, demanding to see "ou" is not the panacea end-of-argument answer for you guys, as much as you may wish it was, and use it as such ;)

That's because, as you know, the answer is complex, as is the very definition: We are not claiming perpetual motion (the skeptics' wet dream of easy debunking lol). We are instead claiming added energy into an open system from unseen sources.

I think you would really have to be a real hard-core copper-top to deny the existence of Zero Point Energy nowadays. There is good empirical evidence to prove it, and if you go to the LANL Physics (Los Alamos National Labs) archives and look at the hundreds of recent Physics papers there, nearly every one of them talks about it as if it were a "done deal": Despite the fact that this is not publicly acknowledged, ZPE really IS in the mainstream of science now... This is highly significant: It knocks a big hole through the naysayers' wall of "It can't be!"  Because you can't use "science" as a basis for dis'ing the studies going on here, then ignore the science that accepts ZPE. Oops. They forgot to tell you guys it is "accepted" now (lol like they forgot to tell the rest of the planet) ;)

So there is the scientific basis for claiming "external energy entering the system" in many cases. How it manifests, how to measure it, how to control it is yet unknown. But you know what, despite what some "Know it all's" claim here, so is friggin' "Gravity"... So i am sick and tired of a-holes pissing on us when they cannot even describe gravity.   

So if you want to see OU i will show you my sailboat ;) Or my refrigerator. Or my air conditioner. Or my air compressor. Or my Christie power generator in the basement (lol just kidding m8). 

If you build a little Imhotep brushless DC fan generator, you can get OU: Add the torque of the fan to the pulse output, and it can be greater than the input (especially when charging batts, which is a whole nuther subject, but there it is). Lol it may not be big and exciting, but you didn't demand that ;)

If you burn Hydroxy against a metal, even if it was produced at "faraday" energy efficiency, using caloric heat calcs, it will be OU... Because the extremely high heat from the hydroxy burning when touching a metal... When burning in the air, it's way below OU...

What is THAT all about anyway, huh? An effect that appears to be unique to science.

Because MY PANACEA ANSWER TO SKEPTICS, much better than theirs' lol, is this:

SHOW ME A OPEN UNIVERSITY STUDY ON H.V. PULSE / RESONANT-LIKE HYDROXY PRODUCTION, ala the "Stanley Meyer" system.

They can't.... And there is no question that in a "real world", there would have been dozens if not hundreds to look at... 

You see, thats why we come here, because we know that science refuses to study these effects... And there must be a significant reason for that. Many of us believe that reason is "Human greed".

Do you want me to prove the existence of Human greed and corruption next, lol? 

Oh and as far as the other complaints we hear: "They don't measure right", "they don't do stuff correctly"... Piss off, lol. No one is ever happy with this shit, even in the conventional electronics world. And it is way too broad a description. There isn't a friggin thing that a REAL test engineer could complain about, regarding the measurement regime being done now on the Aineslie circuit. My answer to these naysayers is this: Piss and moan ONLY if you have constructive suggestions... Otherwise BUGGER OFF, lol. No one gives a shit if "you don't like it" ;)  GET THAT? Your opinions are WORTHLESS unless you can back them.... And of course most of these self-appointed "Defenders of Science" lol can't do anything but complain about others' work. 

You know, you don't just get to make statements like: "They are deluded". I got your "delusion" right here, pal.... PROVE it or shut the hell up.

@jibbguy
Thank you for your lengthy reply. I did enjoy reading it. I may not agree with everything you say but I respect your right to express it. Sometimes I think its like religion, where many people often fight over who has got the better pretend friend. However I have always found an easy path to follow is to respect everyones religious beliefs yet follow my own path.
I agree with you the focus on overunity is somewhat distracting when there are so many fascinating things to pursue like cold fussion and even some of the items you mentioned.
Equally so, its disappointing when so many make false claims and can waste many other peoples time and money.
I am a skeptic, not by choice but rather by experience. Do I have an open mind...yes. However, having seen many millions wasted and even substantial sums of my money and time over the years ..you tend to become a little skeptical.
In the last month alone another two device bit the dust..one I had been waiting for for two years to test. But life goes on. It my choice.
However, and we are off topic here a little, when someone comes into this forum and claims a replication..I have no choice but to at least investigate their claims.
I think this particular thread is over.
Take care and have a good day.
Mark

Quote from: expat2368 on October 03, 2009, 03:52:55 AM
I live near Romania and am there frequently. It is without doubt the most corrupt and dishonest place I have ever had the pleasure of visiting.

I know I am new here..but in regards to Romania and the kind of scams that erupt from there I am quite familiar.  The guy with the SECRET technology MAY be 100% legit, however I would not bet one slightly used electron on it.

This is just your opinion and you better keep it for yourself instead of insulting an entire nation.
In fact, I find interesting that a little prick like you found worthy to open an account here just to denigrate a whole country. If you don’t like the place, go elsewhere, mf!
Now let me tell my opinion: I think I’ve met your mother and she is “without doubt the most corrupt and dishonest”  wh*re I have ever had the pleasure of f*king. How do you like that?

Cheers,
Tinu

@all,

Well, yes, I am a proud Romanian.
Any comments?!

As for the paranoid story presented here, just shot. I am not in the mood of writing right now but certainly I am not comfortable seeing technically illiterate person(s) carrying into ridicule names of big inventors of our nation.

Best regards,
Tinu

Quote from: tinu on October 03, 2009, 12:36:10 PM
@all,

Well, yes, I am a proud Romanian.
Any comments?!

As for the paranoid story presented here, just shot. I am not in the mood of writing right now but certainly I am not comfortable seeing technically illiterate person(s) carrying into ridicule names of big inventors of our nation.

Best regards,
Tinu

I'm in Romania frequently lately, but unfortunately don't get to see more than a dull airport with craaazy prices for WiFi use and sandwiches.
Guess who they name the airport after, BTW? :-)

I've heard accounts of progressive laws regarding animal rights in Romania, which seem to be great.

If however, Romanian governmental departments are sitting on free energy technology, this will look bad in my book. I hope the proud Romanian people will show the world how it's done. Lead the way by building huge plants of OU devices for green thinking people from all over the world to take advantage of, for the better of Mother Earth.
Military applications (lightweight portable deathrays?), or endlessly powerful electric prop engine aircrafts, I'm not so fond of.
If Lician has the goods, then the Romanian people, including himself, better make they are used for GOOD, not EVIL. What are the odds for the military to do what's best. A sell-out to either USA or Russia could prove quite disastrous.

Well, imho Lucian has nothing but few papers and an electric motor that, although unconventional, complies with known EM.

You have to understand that on communism, some ideas were pursued just because those were felt appealing to the not-educated leaders. As crazy as it may seemed, during those time in order to become a leader, a pre-requisite was to be a worker, the lower the better. Of course I don’t have anything against workers but to base the leading class on that is…hmmm… you imagine. Such appealing idea was that of an electric car; on Romanian forum a lot of propaganda is done in connection with it. But the electric motor of that car was very conventional (wounded rotor and stator) as it results from certain documents and testimonials. The rotor kept being fried (you imagine why) and it needed 10days to rewound it. Also, it has been said that the car will run on 4 batteries. Wrong! A particular hand-note confirms that batteries 3-4 are in good order but that means nothing. Probably those batteries were having some problems or they were chosen as test for the whole batch. The electric car was a failure. End of story.

Magnetic motor?
You know: there is no such thing. But the research that was mentioned here was conducted on a “motor energized by pure magnetic energy”. Well, Lucian won’t post any of his papers to clarify the issue and I’ll let you know why. That’s because a “motor energized by pure magnetic energy” is just another crazy idea of a pseudo-researcher of those time, idea that most probably was again a total failure. It should’ve work like this: take some magnetic material, let it be attracted by a certain ferro-magnetic body and collect the mechanical work; take more magnetic material and repeat until you run out of fuel (magnets). The idea may have some merits for remote areas but the energy is of course very small. End of story.

Russian invasion? (@EM)
Oh, but a novel and very powerful weapon was indeed used. It’s call high amperage. It melts tanks when they mistakenly close the circuit. Which circuit? Cables and rail tracks, to my best knowledge. I’ve heard that melting those tanks looked really spectacular! But again, the weapon works only until the enemy becomes aware of it (which happens very soon).

Henri Coanda Airport
Bucharest is, for some reasons, one of the most expensive cities in Europe. I subscribe to those complaining against that. The airport is even more expensive.

Romanian governmental departments are sitting on free energy technology
I can’t say for sure and I can’t speak on their behalf. But …would you do that?!
Go in Hungary and buy an EBM machine. That would put an end to the so called “secrecy” and to all of it's reasons.
And also look carefully into this thread: even Lucian is saying that you have to take the extra energy from somewhere. Lol!

Best regards,
Tinu

@Tinu
excellent post
Kind Regards
Mark

Indeed, great post Tinu, thanks.

Glad this guy from one of the most well-faring counties wasn't crazy when he noticed Bucharest to be expensive :-) Last time I got my supermarket bottle of water through customs, saved me almost 3 Euro's. Bringing a bagel of sorts back from Moldova is also well worth it :-)

No, I would not sit on such technology if I were running a country. I'd use it to make my country wealthy and powerful, as well as generally admired for good reasons. But, I can imagine some of the suppresion conspriracy stories to be real. Governments are not all that smart, and quick to panic. Most don't really have experience at their line of work, having to be elected first, etc.
My logic and (lack of) vision are usualy quite different from the reality around me. That's perhaps why I am here, looking to spped up reality, as it seems to be lagging some.

Perhaps Lucian is being a great soldier for his country, which-ever his assignment is. For a humanitarian, filantropist or even aspriring biliardair, his inconclusive information doesn't make sense to me. I hope he'll be able to elaborate, and set out misconceptions straight.

he has info ..... he replicated it...... and it's not OU,  so he will agree to no tests,
   
why?   because it shows his info is worthless, and he will lose face and his glory will end.

But why was the motor "suppressed"?   Or was it?

It's no secret that security forces are not known to be the brightest, in any country, especially Romania during the communist regime.   They were outright idiots!   The whole country functioned on nepotism, hiring your relatives and friends into positions that they didn't qualify for.  I heard so many stories from various Romanian people that I had the pleasure of encountering on campus, that make so much sense.  Just because a motor is "suppressed" does not make it OU.  It was most likely suppressed because of a PERCEIVED threat to the stability of the economy, not because it was OU.  Anyway, we do need electric cars, and I hope they perfect the battery technology, because that's the real show stopper in certain geographic areas like the US, but in Europe, it's another story.

P.S.  Hey let's not insult the whole country..... just a part of it.    LOL     just kidding.   Romanians are awesome and determined, at least the ones I've met here in the US.  They're good at jokes too, if you understand their style, which I don't most of the time.

EM

Hey EM,

off topic :

did you notice this here especially the first link ( video)  :


http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8082.0 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8082.0)

A year ago I was testing nul_points cap-discharge experiment and I can say it is strange, that you get up to 30 % more Culomb in the target-cap that you took from the primary cap. I talk here about coulomb not the energy. Energy is always less ( 85 to 90 % )

I was asking a german Professor ( Physics ) about this anomaly and he did not answer my question how this can be explained.

Now it is not an easy thing to build a spherical Capacitor but me feeling is I will give it a try if I have the means and the time to do it,

This topic was  covered at the hcrs-webpage by an rf-engineer. They simply do not have an answer.

Regards

I saw the video with Dr Eugene Jeong's slide show, with the Egyptian music playing, and don't think much of the presentation (music is ok).  Moving charge around is nothing new and not overunity.  He seems to think there is more "self energy" in the configuration of one of the spherical capacitors (with the smaller radius), well there is a bunch of energy in the tip of a pin, the problem is getting to it. 

EM

Hello,

let say I am a romanian engineer too.
THE SECRET is open for everybody right now.
Theory of everything is a puplic text, just go... www.thefundamentaluniverse.ro
Helical geometrodinamics, in a tetrahedral structure and a general relativity, is the template of the Universe.
All religions, science, human behavior, mineral, animal, all nature, human body, all are unified.
E.F.T. is the matrix, fundamental helix of transport.
E.F.T. tehnology declare Romania as a developer systems and antigravity technology.
I am an engineer who working at this antigravity systems, all theory is mine!
Principle is similar a magnetic turbine, GHz rotation, the sistem protect, as a submarine, universal flow of gravitons. Under device there are a microwave twistor, similar crop circle effect!
Magnetic line is in fact a torsional vector.
See on the site E.F.T. video. Realize that all particles are same movement, near disc.
I attached an intuitive document, but analize all images in The Fundamental Universe project.
In 1 month I hope to open media(TV)  and boom!
E.F.T. is a fundamental technology, is in fact technology of everything.
I am not interested to translate (romanian first) but you must translate imediatelly much more than 100 pages.Is much powerfull than 100 x (superstring+M+twister+fiber bundles...and so on)...and is not a joke.
Just see this images!

I have enought power to change history.
What about you? Are you ready?

www.thefundamentaluniverse.ro

Well I guess you will have to prove it   ;D

WoodyCad
You seem very excited!
I see many "connections" also.
I hope you are a "GOOD GUY"!
Where are the 100 pages in that link?

Thank you
Chet

Quote from: woodycad on February 25, 2010, 03:06:17 PM
I have enought power to change history.
What about you? Are you ready?

I was born ready !  ;D

I forgot to say, I am an atheist engineer who demonstrate that all religions describe same reality, all sciences too!
I remain an atheist who recognize ...all religions symbols show a schematic structure of The Fundamental Universe. I remain a scientist who recognize that all sciences domains go to a convergent point, right now. This point is E.F.T.(helical geometrodinamics)

You can download and save the 2 parts of the project.
Study all images from this 2 documents (downloadable from "home page" if you want)
You do not need to understand romanian language, is very intuitive!
The project put togeder science and human intuition (religion as intuitive creation).
Expansion of our understanding means science+religions = 50% + 50% = 100%
All that are projection of same reality.
The projections are different(depending references) but now you can see reality.
Our mind function in plan...as shade of a coloured fish.
You can't see coloured fish using any shade of it.(phisics use relations and dependences between shades, no reference to fundamental reality)
So, not exist a single planar geometrical path, trace, in all Universe....
Not exist any liniar dinamics or planar. All are ilusions!
All is helical, in helical, in helical......and so on.
In a general relativity, only geometry is constant in time.A cube remain cube before 1 millions year and is the same after another 1 millons. Only the geometry is conservative, means information.
Dinamics is energy.All religions protect symbols,geometry, payed lifes for it!
In this moment almost entire domains of science study and discover the helical dinamics.
All religios the same.(from Adam & Eva...snake, is power of knowledge is't it?)
Much more data are patented in Romania.
Waves are torsional...all. Do not exist, in entire Universe up/down motions,....all are helical. Up and down are projections in our plan mind!
Any path from A to B, using a pencil on a paper and write a line, is a projections in a plane. The trace is not a real geometry, the reality is:
   The pencil rotate around globe who around sun who around galaxy....and so on.
Our mind use to think ....planar!
All systems are opend(IN-OUT), do not exist anywere an isolated one.
See magnetic lines.One of them are closed some opened.(autoconection characteristic- thor)
Retain E.F.T. 3 shape caracteristic
1- stable - tetrahelix construct sphere (open system)
2- unstable - tetrahelix construct thoroidal shapes- autoconection capability(conversion system, open system)
3- transfer- tetrahelix cylidrical system
Regular tetrahedron force Universe to be helical, TETRAHELIX STRUCTURE!
Retain E.F.T 3 interacting caracteristic
4- autoconections (IN to OUT conectivity)
5- axial conections (see plasma, Birkeland currents)
6- external conectivity (E.F.T chain - open system)

7 - NOTE Superfluidity Universe in a terahedral structure(condensed matter in a fluid dinamics)! Think about vizible matter as a sponge in a water. Water is undetectable, let say ...dark matter, eter, as you wish!(science can't advance in this situation, only intuition...can do it) This water make vortex everywere, and catch planet, sun, atoms, electrons...inside.(the source of perpetuum energy is here)

IF YOU USE THIS ENGLISH INFORMATIONS YOU DO NOT NEED TRANSLATE THE THEORY TO UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND CREATIONS of UNIVERSE!
IS VERY INTUITIVE, JUST USE 1...7 points

I have enough power to change history.
Are you ready?

That is my LOGO project.
This theory is for progress of humanity, that means is... FREE!
GHANGE YOUR MIND, USE YOUR INTUITION AND KNOWLEDGE, ALLWAYS TOGEDER!

www.thefundamentaluniverse.ro

Is there any possibility to read your theory on english ?
You said that I need not to understand romanian language to understand your theory, but I can't understand it.

Very interesting indeed.

Not now,that is for the media moment.Then stranger TV will translate, ask for mediatic boom (1 month I hope). Then all nations are interested to translate in their languages.
Romanians are in advantage... to be the first people who jump to another "world".
Is incredible, is simple...just change your mentality for a real understanding(see coloured fish ...above post)
Analizing any shadow (of fish) you want, you will not see the coloured shaped fish.
Change your mentality, your mind is proiective. Escape from your planar thinking and you will see the real world!
EVERITHING IS HELICAL, EVERITHING IS FLUID, EVERITHING IS NO END AND NO BEGINING, EVERITHING HAVE A PAST AND A FUTURE.
ANY SUBSYSTEM HAVE AN  IN/OUT STRUCTURE, ALL SUBSISTEM ARE LINKED. IS NOT EXIST AN IZOLATE SYSTEM....ANYWERE!

From images  you can understand the scheleton, base matrix. It is bassed on newest science discoveryes and intuitive new research science.(12 years old I think)
You can read many examples in english, science most of them.
From 4 months all Univeres systems verify my theory, I have made also many experiments, but there are many, in science, nature, cosmos...so on.
Is the first time in history of humanity when all religions and all sciences brances colapse in the same point. The single comon element, of all structures and substructures of Universe, is helical geometrodinamics. Tetraedral structure force Universe to flow in a helical geometry. Much more than 800 hours is dedicated to this project!
Is the first condition of condensed matter to.... flow...to be in a tetahedral structure!
All Universe flow, as a superfluid, many gravitational densities split matter in detectable and nontdetectable, vizible or not.

Repeat, just see ALL images of the 2 pdf downloadable on site.
Is not a shame to read 2 times all, revearse order.
I spend 2 months to realize and accept what I discovered.
Want you today to happen it for you?...I do't think so!
Your mind can open in a real time....force your intuition.
The project broke intuition, force interior to burst out!
Make the same, even if you can't understand all!

I have enough power to change history.
Are you ready?

Woody
So how come you need a month?
Sounds like your ready Now!

Just "do it" Bud!

Some how I think we all "feel" a similar connection- science, religion, history, cosmos,reality.

Pull the trigger Bud!

Chet

I work at waves documentation.(same geometrical structure but using a very short distances for transport)
1 Month to be in media, (anouncing stage,first steps explaning to common people), but the project is estimated 18- 24 months. I am not interested to explain scientists(intuition is bad), showing them "strange" devices are enough. The simplyest and the most powerfull theory in the world is shown mass people, as crop circle, not organizations, not governamental, not any institution...and so on.
...so my words are not official yet!
I must protect waves chapter and than publish it.
I am not interested to write books but I am interested to develop antigravity technology, (E.F.T. bassed).
I offer, for free, all principle behind fundamental structure of the Universe.
Unfortunatelly the understanding is not a dependence how many years you studyed.
Who want use this technology must be an intuitive person, for that reason all project try to unlock ancient interiour, not offer all. The project say it exist and show it, but do not offer all on a plate.
You can open the gate or not, only changed mentality will pass....
The intuitive thinking means you can read any "extraterestrial design", using Universal E.F.T. language and existent engineering knowledges.
All crop circle are intuitive, E.F.T. explain in a geometrical and dynamics way the Fundamental Universe.
Even if many are created from people is the same native intuition, all human behavior is ....helical.
Many ancient buildings are in a PHI proportion, practically reflecting intuition.

See rotational principle... behind real work!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8TI3BaQgVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4YgCy0EWKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_MpgWKgRPI&feature=related

Note!
"Abuse me if you are interested to find more"!....I will not have time to be with you!
I am here because another romanians have interesting informations.

I have enough power to change history.
Are you ready?

Hi woodycad,

I am an electrical engineer as well, welcome to the forum.

Please tell me,   why does your video information say (first youtube video link) "A romanian engineer is the first real developer of antigravity technology in the world. "

Where is the anti-gravity?

All I see is a small magnetic or steel ball bearing swirling in an ash tray above a rodin like coil.   Did I miss something?

This is similar if not exactly what TESLA did about 100 years ago in his famous spinning egg experiment.  Just rotating magnetic fields, that's all.   

EM

Hi EMdevices,

This E.F.T. template explain everything.....is everywere.
So you can explain what you want, any devices, but the level is....fundamental.
Under this level nothing exist!
Is not a Rodin coil but at this sort of coils "the principle" is more vizible.(Rodin theory is helical and....100% intuitive).Geometry count, geometry is the key!
In this (coil) video is not shown antygravity, rotational field is low,
I work in waves theory but in the same time I build this device  using.....GHz rotational field.
If the rotational field is low the protection not apear.
Unfortunately the project is in progress - I hope in 18 months to finish
The fundamental scheleton was created and confirmed experimentally at many levels of the Universe structure.
You have a booble soap who rotate in a vortex trap, in videos!
This rotation apears from..."nothing"....did you see?

Tesla egg, electrical engine, all electric devices in the world use E.F.T.
The major difference is we are blind,until now, using effects we spend much more time in researching, testing.
Using a direct E.F.T. capabilities, the fundamental structure, we can build everything.
Using E.F.T. in different geometries we obtain different effects.
The E.F.T. is a reality ...1 device is an effect of 1 geometry, all phisycs study effects.
My theory in fact is not a "theory" is ....about fundamental reality.

What happened to Woody he seemed to be on the right track.

Maybe his medication finally kicked in and his delusions went away.

Certainly his "power to change the world" and his promise of "18 months" rather went the way of all such promises, didn't they.

This is why I don't join in, in the "hey yea, lets kiss this guys ass because he seems "legit"" ..........................................

no no NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proof is a doing word, its an action word, you can "talk" about proof in a past tense way, but all this bloody forum seems to do is talk about "proof" that is yet to happen!, NO NO NO! You either have it NOW or you DONT! END OF STORY!