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I just came across this from Dr. Bob Beck, a way of curing any disease, fungus, and pathogen by electrical means.  He discovered this in a news journal from a 1991 Albert Einstein medical conference, which is actually a rediscovery from 1973.  Here is the youtube video of Dr. Beck talking about it.  The video doesnt show the whole discussion, any help on getting more info would be awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9S19YJK7E&feature=channel

Mark

OK, I have found more information on this, here is part 1 of 13 of a presentation from Dr. Beck concerning the patent #5,188,738 that demonstrates how to render the bacterias, viruses, fungi, pathogens, parasites, and others harmless in the blood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkCHrV6cCfw&feature=related

I am still watching these and will eventually like to build the machine he is talking about.
Mark

even small amounts of DC electricity,
will kill fungus and parasites.

because healthy human cells have a MUCH higher tolerance for electricity,
than the weak, fragile hull-membranes of those contagions.



doctor lakhovky is the person who developed a cure for cancer,
in paris, in the 1920's or so.

doctor lakhovsky did this with by creating electric frequency.
with many oscilating coils, that was designed for him by nikola tesla.

one of the popular pictures of nikola tesla,
shows nikola tesla himself,
sitting in front of this round multi-coiled object.

i believe that in this picture, nikola tesla is sitting in a chair, reading a book.



an other think that doctor lakhovsky claimed,
was that when he placed a 1 foot wide oscilating coil around a geranium,
the geranium grew abnormally fast and tall.
as tall in 2 years, as a normal geranium would take 10 years or more to grow to.

despite having a life threatening plant disease,
when the ring was first placed around the plant !



doctor lakhovsky claimed that the specific frequency of the 1 foot wide coil,
greatly helped the growth of that particular plant.



doctor lakhovsky's work suggests,
that all life forms require a certain frequency range,
to live and thrive.

that diseases need to exist in lower frequencies,
and higher life forms like humans,
need to exist in higher frequencies.

and if a disease is placed in a higher frequency than it can tolerate,
than the disease can no longer live.



i think that 60 hertz radiation, makes humans sick.
and allows disease to live and thrive.

which is why the rich bastards that we all know and hate,
have REQUIRED our entire power grid, to run on 60 hertz.

because they want the 60 hertz radiation take us all sick,
so we will spend money on their fake doctors,
as well as feed the doctors fake ego's.



if the power grids were switched to 180 hertz or higher,
than the incidents of disease would be greatly reduced.

the plant life around the powerlines would thrive like mad,
and the humans around the powerlines would know a vitality that was never there before.



but they don't do such a small easy thing.
that would require their generators to spin a little faster.
and their electronics to be configured a little higher.

because they care several times more about money,
than they care about a quality of life several times higher,
than the low quality of life that we have now.



if you are in disagreement with any of the above,
than please direct your angry and inflammatory comments,
at yourself in the mirror.

because i have zero desire to hear your howling.

Did anyone see the study that showed how HV transmission lines trap Cancer causing particles in the EM cloud?

Very interesting topic. I can tell you, when I was a research student, I accidentally found out the HV plasma from tesla coils can heal people with asthma or cfs.

Dr Bob Beck was a great guy. Without his contribution, we would lose a lot of money to the doctors and pharma.

If you search you can download the blueprints of these devices and I am sure going to build one to try.

nittinum,

interesting what you decribe here. When doing research on Dr. Lakhovsky with the clusty-Search :

http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=%22doctor+lakhovsky%22 (http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=%22doctor+lakhovsky%22)

I only had to results, one of which is interesting :

http://www.energy-healingarts.com/product.shtml?gclid=COiju9PQ1J4CFcmEzAodcCca5Q (http://www.energy-healingarts.com/product.shtml?gclid=COiju9PQ1J4CFcmEzAodcCca5Q)

But I could not detect anything about this doctor on this page.

Do you have additional information ?

Kator01

I have watched the 13 parts of the presentation.  Here is a link to the paper they were handing out.  It contains all the info as briefed in the presentation.

www.stoptherobbery.com/Take%20Back%20Your%20Power!.pdf

If anyone is going to build these, please let me know.  I dont know much about electronics but definitely want to build the machines here.  I already make my own colloidal silver water, which is discussed in another thread.

Mark

Mark69; The link didn't work so I tried cut and past and then I got it. for some reason the pdf at the end isn't linked.


http://www.stoptherobbery.com/Take%20Back%20Your%20Power!.pdf   <<

OK, the link took u right to the pdf, so try this:

http://www.google.com/search?q=take+back+your+power+bob+beck&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Then click the "Bob Beck Lecture", should be the first few at the top and have [pdf] in front.  Hope that works.

Mark

Just tried it on my system, it was second from the top.

Hi mark

I bought a bob beck device a couple of years ago and i swear by it!.

Ive been doing allot of researching in to coronary heart disease and new evidence is surfacing that Cholesterol isnt the bad guy when infact bacteria are the ones hardening our arteries.

The reason ive wrote the above is because if it turns out to be true then your bob beck device and colloidal silver will kill these bacteria and your chances of developing coronary heart disease from bacteria should be very slim.

Ok from what my research has brought to light is that when our arteries harden they harden not from Fat but from calcium, this is the same substance that forms on your teeth in the form of firstly plaque then tarter.

Apparently there isnt much cholesterol to be found in the hardened arteries as its mostly calcium.

Plaque is basicly live bacteria and when they die they calcify ...they pretty much they turn to stone.. like a fossil ..sort of.

Now this all happens in the mouth so whats it got to do with the cardio vascular system?, its been known for years that people with poor oral hygiene suffer more from heart disease but the link was either ignored or genuinely not made.

But we still dont know why this effects the heart do we....oh yes we do!, testing has been carried out on the calcified plaque found in a deceased patient who died from coronary heart disease and guess what was found living in the plaque?....Oral Bacteria!!!.

Its thought that the bacteria gets into the blood when we cut our mouths or lose teeth etc, and start thriving in the arteries, its a lovely place for them...a constant supply of food from our high blood sugars, which incidentaly could be the other main culprit and not fat.

More sugar more food for bacteria more bacteria flourish and die and calcify and clog up our hearts, western diets are full of processed sugars.

So if you zap your blood with the bob beck device and use colloidal silver then the bacteria living in your heart could be killed off and not effect your heart.

oh yeah have you noticed that when using your colloidal silver you dont get plaque form on your teeth!.

Just thought i share that with you :)

Hi Chad,

thank your for your post here on this intersting subject. I can confirm what you describe here..

I can give you an explanation on how the bacteria enter the bloodsystem. They do it via the lypmhatic-system.

There was a time in my life I was so sick ( my heart was so weak ) that I could not take 1 stairway to my appartment.
I came to know a dentist here in germany ( where I live ) who was very aware of the fact that dead teeths are extremly dangerous because of cadaveric poison including bacteria spreading from the area of the dead teeth.

The body uses the lymphatic system to get rid of all poisons regardless what kind of. Once the lymphatic system is overloaded any poison including bacteria assemle in this system and rise upward in this system - starting fom the bleb and the colon. She - denist - told me that they had found coli-bacteria in the maxillary sinus which normally  dwell in the colon.
Now here you have another point : Bad  or wrong food ( sugar, white flavour, milk from the cow, especially homognized and overheated mil) is extremly dangerousnes and leads to dysbacteria in the colon. These dys-bacteria rise upwards via the lymphatic system and enter the tonsils ( swollen tonsils)  and the maxillary sinus and in combination with bad hygiene in the mouth are a very deadly coctail to deal with.

So mouth hygiene, extracting dead teeth ( especially the wisdom theeths, which mostly are dead from the beginning) and proper food is a must. I lost 6 ( ! ) teeth at this time which died unnoticed during a very cold winter ( -25 Degrees Celsius ) while I was working outside for my wholesale-business.
I came to know this fact by a russian person who was imprisioned in Siberia and he said that you do not have a health-problem in this cold environment but one thing : your tooth are in danger to die because of this extreme temperature. The bloddvessel contract to the point of strangulating the blood-stream necessaray to keep your tooth alive.

Now anonther important thing I found out through self-experience : getting deaf while you get older.
Same thing, bacteria from the mouth enter the mandibular-channel ( lower jaw) In this channel there is a big nerve called mandibular nerve. Two things then happen : inflammation of the mandibular nerve, degradation of the jaw-bone and thus more bacteria and poisons and finally bacteria migrating into and up this channel and exit at the area of the temporomandibular joint and from here they affect ( by calcination, as you stated correctly ) the acusticus nerve which leads very slowly to bad hearing and finally deafness.
Its just that simple but no physician will tell you this because of financial reasons.

Hope this gives another perspecitve.

Chad, do you have any reference or documentation about this bacteria-assembling in arteria ?

Regards

Kator

Hi Kator01

This was research i did over a few years ago and all information was stored on my old laptop which subsequently broke losing all my data.

Theres many pieces of information in google but i cant seem to find any studies.......maybe they have been removed for some reason?.

This is a good article below i think youl find interesting.

I also have a theory why men suffer from heart disease more than women and this links into many different ailments the man suffers and all comes together at the end in quite a plausible conclusion.

Anyway hears the article my friend.

Lindy McCollum-Brounley
03/22/2005   

Gum disease has been linked to hardening of the arteries for nearly a decade, and scientists have long fingered a gang of oral bacteria as the obvious suspects behind many cases of the vessel-clogging killer.

Now University of Florida researchers have cornered the bacterial ringleaders of gum disease inside human artery-clogging plaque â€" the first concrete evidence to place the pathogens at the heart of the circulatory crime scene. Their report appears in the current issue of Atherosclerosis, Thrombosis and Vascular Biology.

“Our finding is important because it has proved there are live periodontal bacteria in human atherosclerotic tissue,” said study investigator Ann Progulske-Fox, Ph.D., a professor of oral biology at the UF College of Dentistry. “Now we can begin to understand how these bacteria contribute to the disease process.”

The oral bacteria UF researchers found in the plaque, Porphyromonas gingivalis and Actinobacillus actinomycetemcomitans, are two of the most aggressive offenders in periodontal disease, the leading cause of adult tooth loss. Because of the strong association between periodontal and cardiovascular diseases, scientists have postulated for years that oral pathogens contribute to arterial damage that leads to heart attack or stroke, which kill nearly a million Americans a year. In fact, a recent study conducted elsewhere found a direct correlation between the amount of periodontal bacteria in the mouth and the formation of blockages in the carotid artery in the neck.

To reach the circulatory system, the bacteria have to breech the barrier between tissues in the mouth and the bloodstream, Progulske-Fox said. For patients with periodontal disease, whose gums are inflamed and bleed easily, bristles from even the softest toothbrush can tear tiny blood vessels in the compromised gum tissues, leaving the door wide open for bacteria to enter.

But could the bacteria elude the body’s protective immune response once within the bloodstream?

Researchers worldwide have sought to empirically nab oral bacteria â€" dead or alive â€" in atherosclerotic tissues. They have found remnants of bacterial DNA in arteries, signaling that bacteria had entered the bloodstream. Yet scientists have never been able to grow periodontal bacteria isolated from arterial plaque in Petri dishes, even though the same species of bacteria swabbed from oral plaque can be cultured that way. Therefore, researchers could not be sure the DNA was from bacterial trespassers destroyed by the immune system in the bloodstream, or if live bacteria were actually directly involved in plaque formation within the vessel walls.

“It makes sense that those periodontal bacteria most invasive in the mouth could be able to adapt to the vascular situation,” said study project leader Emil Kozarov, Ph.D., an adjunct associate professor of oral biology at UF and a faculty member at Nova Southeastern University.

Probably only a handful of periodontal bacteria have been successful in making the jump of being infectious to both the oral and vascular tissues. Identifying these bacteria would give researchers the inside scoop on how the bacteria may contribute to cardiovascular disease, said Kozarov.

To find them, Progulske-Fox’s team took the unusual approach of attempting to grow bacteria from arterial plaque directly on human artery cells. They obtained a section of a diseased carotid artery from a 74-year-old, partially toothless male patient undergoing surgery to remove an 80 percent blockage at Shands at UF in Gainesville. After removal, the sample was rinsed and placed on ice, then rushed to Progulske-Fox’s nearby lab in a sealed, sterile container.

Within six hours of leaving the operating room, researchers pureed plaque from the artery and set it to incubate in a brew of healthy arterial cells and liquid growth medium. After 24 hours, the cells were separated from the slurry in the flask, washed several times, then subjected to a series of fluorescent baths containing antibodies sensitive to P. gingivalis and A. actinomycetemcomitans bacteria.

Finally, the cells were fixed to a glass slide and placed under a microscope to search for the presence of invasive periodontal bacteria within the cell structures. If any of the artery cells were infected with the bacteria, fluorescent antibodies would light them up like Alcatraz in lockdown.

Progulske-Fox and her team found the endothelial cells were infected with both P. gingivalis and A. actinomycetemcomitans, proving live bacteria had been present in the atherosclerotic plaque.

“This report certainly provides a smoking gun that live bacteria have become seeded from the oral cavity to become inhabitants of the vessel wall,” said Steve Offenbacher, D.D.S., Ph.D., distinguished professor of periodontology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Dentistry. “The exciting implications focus on the known ability of these bacteria to destroy connective tissue in the mouth, suggesting that when infecting the vessel wall they may contribute to the instability of the atherosclerotic plaque â€" leading to acute events such as heart attack or stroke.”

Progulske-Fox plans to study atherosclerotic tissue samples from 50 to 60 more patients to better understand how bacteria infect arterial cells. She suspects some strains of the bacteria may be more successful in breaching the barriers separating oral tissues from the bloodstream. These bad bugs would become “most wanted” in the fight against periodontal and cardiovascular disease.

“More study samples will show us which strains are implicated in the disease process, so we can design simple diagnostic technology that could be used in a dental office to identify specific bacteria the patient is carrying and whether that bacteria is known to cause atherosclerotic disease,” said Progulske-Fox.

She envisions those diagnostic tests would be the first step in the war against periodontal and cardiovascular diseases, eventually leading to the development of a vaccine that would prevent oral bacteria from ever gaining a stronghold in the mouth. Antibiotic or antimicrobial treatments that could kill the bacteria after they have entered the circulatory system might also someday be possible.

For now, however, she advises people to practice good oral hygiene. “It is important for these patients to have very good dental hygiene,” said Progulske-Fox, “because losing a tooth may not be a big deal to some people, but it can become a life-threatening situation.”

Hi Folks,

Here are some audio interviews with Russ Torlage of Sota Instruments talking about the different aspects of the Beck Protocol. (actual interviews are sometimes near bottom of the pages)

http://helloearth.info/electricityforhealth/electricityforhealth.html

Very Interesting stuff !!

Will

Hi Chad,

This is very good information, thanks!  Now I have even more reason to build one of these machines. 

Mark

Hi Mark, no problem mate i love sharing info that i think will benefit others.

Just one thing that Kator touched on ans thats the bacteria in the gut, well i used to get terrible stomach acid after eating certain foods, if i ate pastry or cornflakes i would be doubled up with burning from the excess acid.

There was one night imparticular that scared the hell out of me, i awoke to find the most intense burning sensation in my stomach,  acid had also travelled up from my stomach to my throat and the pain was real bad, i went down stairs and took some rennie duo and drank a pint of water and eventually it calmed down.

I was a regular acid sufferer but after making up half a pint of colloidal silver and taking two table spoons (20ml) per day the acid has gone totally!, i even ate two mince pies before bed last night and not a whiff of acid.

so this leads me to think that its probably bacteria in the gut that causes excess stomach acid when certain foods are eaten, but now i literally can eat any food and not get acid.

Interesting.

Gum diseases and "bad teeth" problems which you guys mentioned appear to be a symptom of mercury poisoning.

Yes, I have seen this, I'm surprised to find this topic on this site though. But let me tell you what my experience has been, you may learn something.

I just recently built and sold a packaged RIFE machine to a long time customer, as per his request. He plays a lot with alternative healing/medicine, and has used a variety of devices throughout his life, some of which I have repaired for him. But, this guy is responsible for cluing me in to RIFE technology.

I knew about electrical healing from Tesla's work and some of his personal statements for a while now, but I always assumed it required some sort of Tesla coil. Well, it doesn't! The basic device itself is so basic and so simple to build, and yet the media tries so hard to make everyone believe they need a specially made custom device to cure them of ailments for only $2,400.00. That irritates me to no end! Now, it is an imperfect science, they won't tell you but I will... However, it's almost free to play with and everyone on this site has what they need (equipment wise) to begin safe experimentation.

It's up to you guys/girls if you want to give this a try, but all you need are 3 simple components for a complete system, 2 of which you already have, 1 you are using right now just to read this message.

The requirements are as follows:

A computer with sound card.

Audio patch cables.

A signal generator program.

Everyone here has a computer and most likely has a built in or aftermarket sound card. Everyone here at least will have a set of speakers or headphones available. All you need after that is a little will power and a signal generator program. You need a 1/8th STEREO audio patch cable, so, either you hack your speakers, head phones, or you go buy the $5.00 cable at RadioShack and hack that instead. One end plugs into your audio output from your computer, the other end (once hacked and stripped) goes to you. Then you simply dial in the desired frequency from your signal generator program and there you go, a fully functional vari-zapper, RIFE machine, or any other name you give. They all do the same damn thing, but at different price levels as well as different power levels.

Power is easy to boost, all that is required for more power is an audio amplifier. Do any of you have surround sound in your home, or even a portable boom box? If so, then you have a good amp already. If not, then simply attach your leads from the sound card, to a wall style step down transformer which again everyone has. Run this transformer in reverse. The sound card will put out about 2.5v, so use an AC transformer in revers that specs about 120 to 9. This should net you about 40v output from your sound card once passed through the transformer in REVERSE. This is an ugly way to do it, but it's cheap or free if you just want to experiment.

Voltage will be controlled by the volume slider on your computer, or the volume nob on your stereo receiver if you opt to use that method instead. BOTH will handle square waves no problem! But the receiver might hurt you due to it's assumed power capabilities, so be careful and stay close to that volume control ALWAYS! Too much voltage makes your muscles contract, not let go! The moisture content of your skin will also make a difference as to what you feel, and so will the frequency you choose. Low frequencies need a LOT more power then high frequencies do. So you will want wet hands, or more power to actually feel something at low settings, but do be cautious. The correct frequency with enough power WILL wake you up!

Now, there are many programs out there, many are free or can be downloaded for free, then modified, if you know what I mean.

The program I use for signal generation:

http://www.trueaudio.com/ (http://www.trueaudio.com/)

My favorite list of RIFE frequencies:

http://www.noriftrife.com/frequencies.asp (http://www.noriftrife.com/frequencies.asp)

My experience has been mixed, but I do feel quite good on low frequencies which I call life energy. My preferred range is in the 6-10HZ ULF band width. I like it as an AC or DC wave, it simply makes me feel good. But the RIFE frequencies are supposed to be mainly DC square waves.

Anyway, this is getting a bit long, so I'll stop here. Ask questions, I'll answer where I can.

t3t4

most people have a severe overgrowth of a fungus, called candida.

the fungus goes EVERYWHERE in their body.
especially through their blood stream.
because the candida is thriving off of the excess sugar that most of us eat.



the preservatives in our food do not kill candida.
but the presevatives do kill the good bacteria, that keeps candida in check.

the candida eats up our energy,
makes us feel depressed,
and makes us feel stressed.



people have used food grade hydrogen peroxide, to kill candida.
as well as greatly reduced sugar consumption, and monatomic silver.

but candida is EXTREMELY difficult to kill, once established.

to remove excess stomach acid,
soak uncooked oatmeal in cold water, for 30 seconds.
then eat the oatmeal.


the UNCOOKED oatmeal will bond to acids and fats.
dragging them out of the body.

many people have a problem with built up acidic chemicals.
that sit in the stomach and intestines, and are never removed.

the oatmeal removes the acid, and many other chemicals.



a woman i know, used to have severe stomach pain.
so bad that she had to take medication.

but after she used the uncooked oatmeal, all her stomach problems went away.
and never came back.

her sisters stomach problems were cured by the oatmeal, too.



but oatmeal isn't enough.
you also need probiotic bacteria.

which eat acids in your stomach, and convert it into harmless bacteria wastes.



i had severe problems with all of the above.
oatmeal was one half of what cured them.

the probiotic bacteria pills from eidon.com, was the other half of what cured them.


the oatmeal greatly reduced my suffering.
but eidons probiotic bacteria,
restored my ability to eat normally,
without unspeakable suffering.

Does the Beck equipment kill the candida?

Mark69,

I made one nearly two years ago from information obtained here at this forum.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4177.msg79300#msg7930 (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4177.msg79300#msg7930)

Good luck,
Rosphere

Umm Ok,  for electrical stimulation of the blood. The blood takes 7 minutes to cycle through the body. So for the first 7 minutes pulsing low current 7.8hz charge with two electrodes about an inch apart with wet cotton on the whist at the artery site. Then stop for 7 minutes and repeat to kill viruses and fungus discharged by the bacteria that you killed in the first go around. The relax time or off time of 7 minutes is important to keep these nasties in the blood so you can electrocute them again.

Now this is not going to kill all the nasty critters in the body. Some of them are hiding in places where there is no oxygen (not in the blood). These guys are the anaerobic nasties. So to kill them you need oxygen and a lot of it. One very good method is to use ozone system and saturate your water and drink right away because it only stays in the high oxygen saturation state for about 30 minutes. Also Calcium will double the oxygen levels in the body. Most all people today are Calcium deficient. Now understand when you kill these guys off, they will also release virus and fungus, some of which will get into the blood stream. So you need to do you electric therapy daily. Oh and dont forget you must have good vitamin D levels to break down Calcium into the some 500 chemicals the body processes from Calcium. The D is only to get the process started.

But then there are even more nasties  hiding in the body and protected. For those we need a poison that they can not live in or their protective shell can not live in. but the good cells can. You gotta pop that protection shell open. That poison is Black Walnut Husk that must be from a green living tree. You want to scrap the inside of the bark and make a powder, ingest 200mg of powder for a few days will do the trick. But you better have you liver in good shape for this, as all and I mean ALL of the nasties in your body will be flush into your liver in the first day or two. Your liver will go into toxic shock if it is not healthy. There is a way to flush the liver before you do any of this. It takes about 2 to 3 weeks. Now if anyone is interested in this I will continue on?

Quote from: IronHead on December 19, 2009, 06:26:54 PM
...There is a way to flush the liver as well before you do any of this. It takes about 2 to 3 weeks. Now if anyone is interested in this I will continue on?

Ironhead,

A friend of mine once told me that coffee enemas rejuvenate the liver.

A good place to pause, if this is where you are headed.  Please continue.

Thank you for your 777 tip,
Rosphere

If you take "Milk Thistle Extract" (sillybum marinium) this is a very impressive in protecting the liver from dangerous toxins, it is use in hospital when people mistakenly eat Death cap type mushrooms that devastate the liver.

Its proven in lots of medical studies to protect the hepatic cells and also help regenerate them so this should benefit you whilst you flush the toxins from the body.

This is turning into one of the better threads. :)

Intro to 21 day Liver flush, this is the best one for the first timer. These kinds of flushes get less complex as you do them.
Well there are a regiment of juices from fruits that emulsify the stones that are created in the liver . I mean stones to ! These things are like small very hard mineral like rocks ranging from pea size to even golf ball size. First up is Beet and Cucumber juice. Then there is  Black cheery juice and Uva Ursi tea. Apple and Lemon combo with ginger. These juices would be consumed daily for 20 days. Then after this emulsification process is satisfied you will then do the
Epsom Salt (Magnesium sulfate) process. Here you stop eating for the day at lets say 2:00pm. Now you mix up 8 onces of filtered water and 1.5 tsp of Epsom Salt and drink this at 6:00 pm and then another 8oz at 8:pm. Then drink 8 once mix at 6:00am and 8oz mix again at 8:00am. This will cause the liver to eject all the nasty crap that has been emulsified.

After you crap all that stuff out from your liver flush.
Then you will drink 8 oz fresh grapefruit juice (no pulp) and 3 tps ozone saturated olive oil mixed. This will get the liver, intestine, bladder  and rest of you system super healthy

Now you are ready to treat for  cancers, aids, diabetes and just about all diseases that come from fungal and parasitic infections  including busting open those nasty and well protected tumors that you dont even know you have, and doctors can not even see as they might not be dence enough.
This will also include oxygenating dead zones in the body. And dead zone electrofaction by way of electromagnetic charging ( not the blood charging process) That will be covered later on,  how, why and when.  Along with device types. 
 
The full process will cover things like
Stop using toothpaste, how to kill Clostridium bacteria in the teeth the right way.
And why use xylitol on the teeth instead of fluoride.
Stop using store bought common shampoos and soaps as they contain Azo dyes. what is Azo dye, and what does it do to you.
A discussion of which pathogens and bacteria are the really bad one and the diseases they carry, how to kill them in the body.
Why getting out into the sun is so very important to you.
What the hell is Phascolopsis parasite larva and Eurytrema Pancreaticum and what do they do to us
Why you need Complex B and B17 vitamins and why you need much higher doses of C in an industrial world.
And so on and so and so on.


BTW the coffee thing has nothing to do with the liver  it is a Colon flush and not really the best way to go.
If you are getting bound up then you need to stop eating the foods that cause this and do enzyme replacement therapy.
I will cover this as well if you would like. Hope you have nothing against using Hemp seed powder as it is a very important part of this therapy.

This is just the intro , Shall I go on ?


IronHead 
Cherokee Nation

Ironhead, yes please continue.  Perhaps you could even put together a pdf with all the proper steps so everyone doesnt have to filter through the posts?

Rosphere, thanks for the link, i will check it out.  I do want to build the beck machines.  Hopefully they aren't difficult as I am a novice at electronics.



Thanks,
Mark

Thank you Mark for starting this Thread in the first place
I will try, But I will also reference some very good books of the new techniques as well as write some things on the very old ways and how they work together with the new stuff. Guys the electrical therapy is very good and should be used daily, but you need to get yourselves cleaned up. The electromagnet  stuff will keep you cleaned up once you get to that point. Along with other things you will want to change in your daily consumption of very toxic products. Some of these toxins are unavoidable but can be combated with many different solutions and foods you eat along with electrical therapy. Here is one for you , you wont hear often. Stop using anything with Isopropyl alcohol , it causes mutations at the cell level in you and in bacteria, fungus cells and so forth..

For those of you that smoke, well you have to quite that crap before you can even get started cleaning your body up. The best way I think to date to do that is the  DSE 901 electronic cigarette in my opinion or just stop that stupid shit altogether. I am not here to sell anything or promote any websites.  I will be referring to some websites in particular only because they might be the only people in the world where you can obtain certain things without you having to trek through the woods and mash to get on your own. Or that I have had very good luck with their services and product.

Also I just wanted to say the the electric therapy is not new. It dates back many thousands of years to when they used electric els and fish to do the same thing we now do with electronics. 

Also if you trust the FDA and Pharmaceuticals  over 10s of thousands of years of healing history then you do not belong in this thread.
And I am not here for debate. I am here to tell what I and many others know and that is all.

As this Thread that could become a very large one has nothing to do with OU or free energy. I hope Admin Stafen does not mind me continuing.

ironhead!

all i can say is wow !

how far have you taken this ?

have you tied the sclar and the charaka..

and the tesla sheild ...  then accelerated it via  unlimited means ?

my grand father was quite in to the natural remidies .. ORGANICS to be exact!

agin worndeful work ... 

i need to  see more of your amazing work!

william

I am very interested in these as I have a concern about the link between plaque and heart disease.  I am somewhat OCD about brushing my teeth (about 4 times a day) as I can "feel" the stuff on them after I eat.  I also have an enlarged tonsil.  I find it has the "tonsilliths" aka tonsil stones, the small milky white balls, when I squeeze the tonsil, they come out.  I am wondering if I should have the tonsil removed.  I have noticed though with the taking CS water, they are less frequent.

Mark

Well we first have to understand what plaque does. It is a sealer for the body mostly. Here is the problem. If your body becomes very acidic it will begin to consume itself. These acids will cause cracking and bore holes into the heart and arteries and the plaque comes along and files those injured areas so you do not internally bleed to death. Well if the acid state continues then so does the plaque sealing of the holes and in time will cause a blockage in the arteries and disrupt functions of the heart. In this case you need to get your PH balance proper. There are many ways to do this. Plaque and Cholesterol is not the problem  ACID is !! Remember this, that as you get older you become more acidic and your diet must change with age. 

Plaque comes out of the teeth in the presents of Carbohydrates, it takes about 8 hours I think. This is why you suppose to brush you teeth  within every 8 hours of eating or right after you eat. Plaque is really not the problem, it is just the glue that glues together billions of dead bacteria layers in the teeth and where there is dead and sealed oxygen depletion zones there is possible infection.

For your Tonsils consult your dental doctor at this time.

Step one , get your teeth cleaned by a dentist.
Now throw away your tooth paste as it is the worst thing you can put into you body , It is a super toxin.
And if it gets into a extraction site it will never go away at least until your body fully decomposes in the grave!!

Get some oil of oregano, mind you this stuff is very hot, like straight cayenne pepper. Next get some liquid Aloe juice from the drug store and some cold press or cold spun Coconut oil. Look on the net you will find it . It can not be heat processed as it will not work. These things are like bacteria sponges , they will suck the living and dead bacteria right out of you rmouth if not concreted in plaque. This is why you should get your teeth professionally cleaned , to open everything up in your mouth.

oil of oregano
wash you hands , dry and put a little bit of oil on your finger and rub the tooth brush in the oil and brush your teeth. Again this stuff is hot, it will take some getting use to.

Aloe  juice
Use like mouth wash for a few minutes but only a small amount about a tsp every time you brush.
Spit it out, you dont want all the dead bacteria in your system
This stuff taste nasty, it will take some getting use to
We will be using this juice in other ways and mixes as well

Coconut oil
Use like mouth wash once every 2 to 3 day about a tsp.
Spit it out, you dont want all the dead bacteria in your system
We will be using this oil in other ways and mixes as well

Doing this will also keep these rest of your body just abit healthier.

BTW i am 47 years old and have had only one cavity in my life in a wisdom tooth.

     

I have found nothing better than hydrogen peroxide for keeping your teeth plaque free, and your gums healthy.

H/P dissolves the plaque which harbors enamel destroying bacteria.

All the advice given above by IrinH sounds like great advice too.

I would caution people on the various brands of aloe juice though...many have taken to adding a chemical form of 'citric acid'.

The body and citrus fruit supply the body with natural 'citric acid'.

Find out what one of the world's foremost bio-chemists J Hart has to say about the chemical additive 'citric acid'.

coljoe.com

Regards...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8499.msg216262#msg216262


the elites are adjusting earths orbit,
to kill most of the population !

they know how to do it,
and they have been planning it for decades !



you need to show this link to other people !
we need to light a fire under their ***es .

Quote from: nitinnun on December 20, 2009, 11:53:43 PM



http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8499.msg216262#msg216262


the elites are adjusting earths orbit,
to kill most of the population !

they know how to do it,
and they have been planning it for decades !



you need to show this link to other people !
we need to light a fire under their ***es .

If my memory serves me well, HAARP is about hurricane manipulation in Cuba. From 2005 onwards, there has been  no significant hurricanes making landfall in the US, thanks to the HAARP technologies.

Please check out this patent before making unsubstantiated claims:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2008/0011500.html

The axis of the earth may be vulnerable to a shift. But this is most likely due to the the fact that too much oil has been extracted from the ground, leaving some parts of the earth hollow and piezoelectrically unstable.

Quote from: nitinnun on December 20, 2009, 11:53:43 PM



http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8499.msg216262#msg216262


the elites are adjusting earths orbit,
to kill most of the population !

they know how to do it,
and they have been planning it for decades !



you need to show this link to other people !
we need to light a fire under their ***es .

My belief is: It is our ignorance that kills the whole population.

(EDIT:  In the universe, not every planetary orbit lasts for one earth year. For example, one year in another planet may be equivalent to 1000 plus earth years. To be able to take over the universe, you have to show some kinds of ability to live longer than a century. So far, I have not seen any evidence suggesting that these elites can reverse their aging clock in their bodies. )

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 20, 2009, 05:23:33 PM
I have found nothing better than hydrogen peroxide for keeping your teeth plaque free, and your gums healthy.

H/P dissolves the plaque which harbors enamel destroying bacteria.

All the advice given above by IrinH sounds like great advice too.

I would caution people on the various brands of aloe juice though...many have taken to adding a chemical form of 'citric acid'.

The body and citrus fruit supply the body with natural 'citric acid'.

Find out what one of the world's foremost bio-chemists J Hart has to say about the chemical additive 'citric acid'.

coljoe.com

Regards...

Cap-Z-ro
Yes Hydrogen Peroxide is one of the best things for you to manage concretion on the teeth. And we will go back to that if  you do a flushing program. And great advice about the Aloe juice. As with everything we should be aware of its contents.

Ok so I think the best thing is to do a PDF on this as Mark suggested and I will work on that. I just dont think this can be written in a free form way.

"Ok so I think the best thing is to do a PDF on this as Mark suggested and I will work on that. I just dont think this can be written in a free form way."

Thanks IronH...that would certainly be a very valuable document for sure.

Checked out your pole shift thread nitt...nothing would surprise me...and that is entirely possible.

Regards...

Thanks Ironhead for putting together a PDF.  I think this is going to be a great file!

Cap Z, also good advise on the Hydo Peroxide, started using it today and so far, mouth feels much cleaner for longer time.

Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all!

Mark

Hi everyone,

This thread is real breeze of fresh air, especially as there aren't many discussions on the electro-health and alternative healing subject here. Also, I did not know there are this many people here who are into the field, too.

We should all definitely try some collaboration, since at first glance it appears everyone has their "niche" area of expertize and could contribute to the "big picture."

...

I have done much research into Georges Lakhovsky work. He was not a doctor though, but he worked with one (Prof. Dr. D'Arsonval, surely you have heard of him, as he was huge into electro-medicine back in the late 19th Century and early 20th, beside playing with things we call today Tesla Coils - before Tesla himself).

In any case, here's Mark Clement's book "Waves That Heal", for everyone's perusal: http://www.mediafire.com/?lzyc0mmxydn

I invite to everyone to discuss Lakhovsky MWO further, either from the technical or the medical aspect (how and why it supposedly works).

...

On the subject of colloids, here are two books:

Practical Colloid Chemistry - http://www.mediafire.com/?jzz4wtmnm3j

Colloids in Health and Disease - http://www.mediafire.com/?mdkfkguylnm

...

Regarding Dr. Beck and his protocol, has anyone tried using the device with Carbon electrodes, as stainless-steel ones tend to create skin burns and rashes after prolonged use?

Perhaps another alternative could be Gold or Platinum electrodes, but that would raise the cost significantly and Carbon electrodes might be more "body" friendly (you know C, Carbon based life-forms, etc... :-) ).

Any other thoughts and experiences on the Beck Protocol are welcomed.

IronHead

that's some really good info, please continue posting, or even better put all that into a concise PDF, we'll all appreciate it.

Thanks.

Working on it , will be done after the Holidays 
Happy Holidays to everyone. 

Quote from: blueplanet on December 13, 2009, 10:29:31 AM
Very interesting topic. I can tell you, when I was a research student, I accidentally found out the HV plasma from tesla coils can heal people with asthma or cfs.

blueplanet,

I really want to hear more about what you know regarding HV plasma helping people with asthma as my best friend has it, and I'd really like to help him out, if I can.

Please post here for everyone's benefit, or alternatively PM me.

Thanks.

a former friend of mine once said,
that parasites could not stand DC electricity.

that when DC electricity is run through the body,
the parasites get out of the body,
in any way that they can.

one such person had the parasites coming out,
around his eyeballs.



human tissue can ignore a much higher amount of DC electricity,
than parasite tissue can ignore.

because human cells are larger,
and run on higher levels of bio-electricity.

which is the main reason for the differences in tolerance.



but if any of you disagree with my input,
than please feel free to viciously attack me.
without addressing my idea's.

as it is the forums cultural norm,
and i would hate to go against holy normalacy.

Quote from: nitinnun on December 22, 2009, 09:52:28 PM


a former friend of mine once said,
that parasites could not stand DC electricity.

that when DC electricity is run through the body,
the parasites get out of the body,
in any way that they can.

one such person had the parasites coming out,
around his eyeballs.



human tissue can ignore a much higher amount of DC electricity,
than parasite tissue can ignore.

because human cells are larger,
and run on higher levels of bio-electricity.

which is the main reason for the differences in tolerance.



but if any of you disagree with my input,
than please feel free to viciously attack me.
without addressing my idea's.

as it is the forums cultural norm,
and i would hate to go against holy normalacy.

nitinnun can you elaborate more on this. How should the DC be administrated, what levels should one use, how many times should it be performed, when should it be performed...

As for the norm here, I wouldn't worry about it. For any amount of deceat there is an equal amount of truth.

@Ironhead: I'll be looking forward to this pdf. I would recommend making a simple website around it with a donation link since it deserves a form of gratitude.

Quote from: nitinnun on December 22, 2009, 09:52:28 PM


a former friend of mine once said,
that parasites could not stand DC electricity.

that when DC electricity is run through the body,
the parasites get out of the body,
in any way that they can.

one such person had the parasites coming out,
around his eyeballs.



human tissue can ignore a much higher amount of DC electricity,
than parasite tissue can ignore.

because human cells are larger,
and run on higher levels of bio-electricity.

which is the main reason for the differences in tolerance.

Interesting

Quote from: broli on December 22, 2009, 10:02:23 PM
nitinnun can you elaborate more on this. How should the DC be administrated, what levels should one use, how many times should it be performed, when should it be performed...

If I may chime in while waiting nitinnun to respond...

Voltage is not an issue - current is.

Current levels should be below perception, so sub 1mA currents. If you search the Web there are places that outline the acceptable and dangerous levels, such as this one: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/construction/electrical_incidents/eleccurrent.html

Never connect opposite parts of your body so that current flows through your heart.

Only use battery power and never directly connect to the power grid, even if there are isolation transformers and/or other protection devices - can't stress this enough.

Pulsed DC would most likely be closer to nerve impulses than continous DC, thus some kind of circuit-interrupter and perhaps a polarity changer while at it, but I guess that's optional.

Quote from: amigo on December 23, 2009, 08:50:07 PM
If I may chime in while waiting nitinnun to respond...

Voltage is not an issue - current is.

Current levels should be below perception, so sub 1mA currents. If you search the Web there are places that outline the acceptable and dangerous levels, such as this one: http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/construction/electrical_incidents/eleccurrent.html

Never connect opposite parts of your body so that current flows through your heart.

Only use battery power and never directly connect to the power grid, even if there are isolation transformers and/or other protection devices - can't stress this enough.

Pulsed DC would most likely be closer to nerve impulses than continuous DC, thus some kind of circuit-interrupter and perhaps a polarity changer while at it, but I guess that's optional.

Go on Amigo, I want to hear what the safe levels of DC are from Nit, I am contemplating the moment. I know that just 12 volts was used in Vietnam to torture POWS.

I think we need a dedicated thread on building a new and improvement bob beck pulser. Groundloop is extremly talented in board layouts so the project would benefit tremendously with his help. Most pulsers out there cost around 200$ which is quite expensive for a lot of people.

The goal of this thread should be designing a very low power and low cost pulser. It never made sense to me that old pulsers used 7! batteries to deliver 27V at micro amps. It's ridiculous. Ideally the circuit uses 1-2 AA batteries with a DC boost converter IC. Perhaps a very low voltage and low power double timer can both serve as the frequency controller and way to switch on a buzzer every 7 minutes like Ironhead mentions. This way the user doesn't need to keep track of the time himself. Some other features can be added.

The only person I know on this forum who can do this is Groundloop. I suggest if he takes on the project, to sell them as kits at an economical price. The bob beck pulser must be resurrected, it's so stupidly simple.

It will mainly depend on Groundloop or something else with a rich electronic background, but who's interested in this project of redesigning the bob beck pulser.

The simple way, Arduino with LCD menu so you can easily change any perimeter with out rebuilding the hardware. It is what I use.
The PWMs will do 0 to 400khz in any step with the menu buttons.

http://ebnstore.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2

Quote from: IronHead on December 24, 2009, 06:43:37 PM
The simple way, Arduino with LCD menu so you can easily change any perimeter with out rebuilding the hardware. It is what I use.
The PWMs will do 0 to 400khz in any step with the menu buttons.

http://ebnstore.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2 (http://ebnstore.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=7&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2)

Thanks for opening my eyes to the world of PICs. Since I have enough coding experience this should be a breeze to program in that scripting language. It's well worth the price too. Thanks for bringing this up, I always thought PICs were daunting beasts only approachable with assembly languages and lots of headaches  ;D .

Programing is all ready done and pre loaded for this task. But you can always do you own as well
BTW  it has 6 PWMs  so you can do up to 6 areas on the body at the same time or any sequence in any combination. I just do 2 , 1 on each wrist.
Also you can make your own mag coil and hook it right up  with a few adjustments on the menu for pulse, duration and so on and you have a electromagnetic treatment system as well.

Quote from: IronHead on December 24, 2009, 07:23:44 PM
Programing is all ready done and pre loaded for this task. But you can always do you own as well
BTW  it has 6 PWMs  so you can do up to 6 areas on the body at the same time or any sequence in any combination. I just do 2 , 1 on each wrist.
Also you can make your own mag coil and hook it right up  with a few adjustments on the menu for pulse, duration and so on and you have a electromagnetic treatment system as well.

You could also very easily use the Arduino to make Silver Colloid. Use the analog input to the Arduino to measure water conductivity every 15 mins or so and get a ballpark estimate on PPM of the concentration you select. Dr. Len Horowitz sells a Silver Solution that is made using 528 Hz dunno if this actually matters but this would be trivial with the Arduino a well.

Look forward to hearing more developments :)

Will

Microcontrollers are not a problem for me as I have done some work in the past with both PIC and AVR and can figure out most things pretty fast. C is my weapon of choice as my uC ASM is a bit rusty these days...

Though everyone seems to be eager to redesign old things, new Beck circuit etc. Why fix something that's not broken I ask?

I personally believe that we need to focus on something else. We can use the existing circuits as they are, but we need to develop ways of determining whether these (existing or new) circuits actually DO something or not in the body (and how beneficial they are). THAT is more (if not most) important, in my humble opinion, than using Arduino or making a new Beck pulser.

Yes, I know that sounds "so boring" compared to building a fancy new uC driven PWM circuit with some kind of feedback and other goodies, but what's it good to us if there's no way of knowing which frequency works or whether the polarity should be alternated, should the design be based on electromagentics (transverse waves) or magnetodialectrics (longitudinal waves) and so on.

Matter a fact a new design could be causing harm without us even knowing, and that is a major consideration to have in mind.

"Though everyone seems to be eager to redesign old things, new Beck circuit etc. Why fix something that's not broken I ask?"

I did not go for the redesign. It is just cheaper and you get both devices in one really. And Arduino is open source. Also you can use it for other stuff too.

Quote from: amigo on December 25, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
Microcontrollers are not a problem for me as I have done some work in the past with both PIC and AVR and can figure out most things pretty fast. C is my weapon of choice as my uC ASM is a bit rusty these days...

Though everyone seems to be eager to redesign old things, new Beck circuit etc. Why fix something that's not broken I ask?

I personally believe that we need to focus on something else. We can use the existing circuits as they are, but we need to develop ways of determining whether these (existing or new) circuits actually DO something or not in the body (and how beneficial they are). THAT is more (if not most) important, in my humble opinion, than using Arduino or making a new Beck pulser.

Yes, I know that sounds "so boring" compared to building a fancy new uC driven PWM circuit with some kind of feedback and other goodies, but what's it good to us if there's no way of knowing which frequency works or whether the polarity should be alternated, should the design be based on electromagentics (transverse waves) or magnetodialectrics (longitudinal waves) and so on.

Matter a fact a new design could be causing harm without us even knowing, and that is a major consideration to have in mind.

Wouldn't micro controllers also help with that? The old beck pulser used 7 batteries, this is quite extreme considering you need about 30V-40V and 50-100 uA. So I see no problem in redesigning it for single battery use and low component cost. The proposed adruino platform is very simple to get running and modified.

I also totally agree with the experimentation, why there is hardly anything about this is puzzling. How about buying a "decent" usb digital microscope to monitor these things. One could grow controlled bacteria, fungi or parasites and apply these things on them to see what happens with the growth and what not. There was a recent local deal here for a decent looking microscope here:

http://www.aldi.nl/OFFER_NL_MI/OFFER_52/OFF28.SHTML (http://www.aldi.nl/OFFER_NL_MI/OFFER_52/OFF28.SHTML)

I'm not microscope guy but the people who bought it and posted online said it was pretty good. Even if its basic it's miles away from poking in the dark.

What is your take on this?

Ironhead,  can your PDF show how to use the Audrino and "hook" up the coil to make things work?  I am a beginner at electronics, so I ask that directions be very simple and easy to follow for us beginners, like "hook the blue wire to xxx".  Picture directions also work great for me, as I am a visual learner.

Thanks,

Mark

Also, I think when one starts offering kits for a "low" price, people will lose interest as they will think someone is out to make a buck.  Just my opinion.

Yup, it is very easy to. Fact is I should do that part first as  part one.  You wont need electronic experience with this setup.

Also , some people are talking about straight DC and pulsed DC .

You must flip flop the DC positive to negative and back so that you do not cause electro plating in the blood.  This is very very important. 
Becks Formula is  4hz 50% duty cycle square polarity flipped every 1hz cycle for 7 minutes on and 7 minutes off repeating

Any updates?

Quote from: happyfunball on December 22, 2009, 10:29:40 PM
Interesting

Indeed. So like the body heats up in fevor to kill germs. Vinagar is a weak acid I take it to  get rid of colds, the apple vinagar. I hear, also honey and garlic, and even hot spices, anything that's extreme will hurt the microbs more then the body cells, but ofcourse there's always exceptions. Like how they used to use snake venom in medicine.

Quote from: nitinnun on December 22, 2009, 09:52:28 PM


a former friend of mine once said,
that parasites could not stand DC electricity.

that when DC electricity is run through the body,
the parasites get out of the body,
in any way that they can.

one such person had the parasites coming out,
around his eyeballs.



human tissue can ignore a much higher amount of DC electricity,
than parasite tissue can ignore.

because human cells are larger,
and run on higher levels of bio-electricity.

which is the main reason for the differences in tolerance.



but if any of you disagree with my input,
than please feel free to viciously attack me.
without addressing my idea's.

as it is the forums cultural norm,
and i would hate to go against holy normalacy.

You are probably talking about Hulda Clark's theories. Hulda Clark peached the same things while she was alive.

But Clark was not very healthy in the last two years of her life. If her theories really work, she should have been healthier than she appeared to be. Some of her theories sound good. But I would look for more evidence before placing too much trust on just one person's theories.

Dude she died in her 80s and fought cancer for 50 years  what the hell are you talking about.

And I am pretty sure  nitinnun is talking about the Beck system which Dr Clark took on later and never took credit for as her own work.
After the scientific study of hundreds of autopsies and thousands of cancer and aids patients. I hardly call what Dr Clark was doing, a theory. 
Also it was not just one person as you describe but many doctors from all over the world , Germany , Switzerland, Italy  and others. 

You can keep it simple and just use batteries and sponges.  Join the group here and files show you how to make.  Especially what he calls "Godrods"

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

You should not do that as I explained or you can cause electroplating of the blood , there is another term used for this but I dont remember what it is. You have to flip the charge back and forth.

Quote from: IronHead on January 30, 2010, 12:19:09 AM
Dude she died in her 80s and fought cancer for 50 years  what the hell are you talking about.

And I am pretty sure  nitinnun is talking about the Beck system which Dr Clark took on later and never took credit for as her own work.
After the scientific study of hundreds of autopsies and thousands of cancer and aids patients. I hardly call what Dr Clark was doing, a theory. 
Also it was not just one person as you describe but many doctors from all over the world , Germany , Switzerland, Italy  and others.

When I said I would look for more evidence, I really meant it.

I am not saying that those ac+dc electric signals would not kill parasites hiding in the body.

What I am worrying about is whether deworming a human body is enough to cure a disease?

Why not just show us some evidence or examples to prove this way of treatment is a cure for whatever disease?

I am sorry. I just want to play safe. I don't mean to discredit anyone.

Here are a few links for those interested in Parasites and their symptoms. Funny how the WHO had this great herbal treatment for parasites and it just seemed to go away. I wish I could get a copy of that video.

http://www.se1.us/health/parasite-cleanse/parasitetypes.html
http://www.se1.us/health/parasite-cleanse/parasitesymptoms.html
http://www.se1.us/health/parasite-cleanse/IBS.html


Will

 :-\ The discussion is quite interesting.  I got the information of someone who built such a machine for therapists some time ago - that by zapping the parasites the effect would go in the opposite direction. Meaning that the 'angry' parasites after the first 'shock' would multiply themselves even more eagerly...
In relation to silver colloid I personally made the experience after the extraction of wisdom tooth- that only hydrogen peroxide really killed the inflammation.
Nevertheless I profitted on a former acquaintance producing silver colloid by himself for years I had to realize that in extreme situations I was mostly thrown back on antibiotic. :'(
After this tooth extraction - I had several tooth with mercury inlays  I had also a electric session in which I was pulsed for 45 minutes by a very large  machine like this. Which effect it made on me - beside that I was near a nervous breakdown - I really could not realize afterwards. But I think this doctor is still working successfully with cancer patients.

Mercury, cadmium, lead and nickel deplete glutathione and sulfhydryl molecules.

It is unclear if a DC voltage in the body would relocate or polarize charge carrying free radicals.

If it does, and if a person with build-up of any of these metals is "zapped", then i believe there would be a problem.

Mercury can be bioaccumulative through the food chain or through the use of dental amalgam fillings.

Cadmium can be bioaccumulative through cigarette smoking.

Lead can be bioaccumulative through inhalation of vehicle emissions or through consumption of milk products.

Nickel can be bioaccumulative through the use of stainless steel implants.

With mercury inlays I clearly meant amalgam fillings.

@Ironhead
Don't be so quick to judge.  The Yahoo group I posted is well aware of the need to change polarity.  Here is another link re same subect since you are too lazy to read.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2006/10/25/build_your_own_for_almost_free_electromedical_research_devices.htm

Quote from this page by host of yahoo group"

"Some godzilla devices have switches to reverse the positive with the negative. This is to prevent the battery electricity from making chemical changes in the body which can result in some soreness (temporary). The Apprentice Godzilla has no switch. You switch the placement of the electrodes (or you can switch the connection of the wires on the battery). It's important to do that after 5-10 minutes or so.  Other godzilla devices switch every 30 seconds automatically and have power meters in them so that you can adjust and know exactly what level of power you are using."

*******
Part of the Beck protocol is the magnetic pulsar.  Links on this page to build your own.  Also somewhere related is the ultimate DIY magnetic pulsar where you get heavy duty battery jumper cables.  Wind them around your body several times connect to a deep cycle 12 volt battery and energize using a starter solenoid with the starter button in your hand.  This is used  to kill the pathogens deep in your gut.  This is so powerful, sometimes it might be best to start will one short burst at a time.  You might have a healing crisis with the body trying to eliminate the dead pathogens.  I will try and find a link and post it.  I am going to try this on myself because I have digestion problems.  I will be back home in about one month to try.

Judge what? what the hell are you talking about ?  I have simply told you how the Beck system works.  Fuk I hate this forum!!

@IronHead,

any update on your PDF?

I will be sending it out to a couple of you guys , Mark  I will send you a link in PM

Quote from: t3t4 on December 17, 2009, 03:56:16 PM
Yes, I have seen this, I'm surprised to find this topic on this site though. But let me tell you what my experience has been, you may learn something.

I just recently built and sold a packaged RIFE machine to a long time customer, as per his request.

Hi t3t4,
Fancy meeting you here.
I just went to have a look at the frequencies list and it occurrs to me that I can easily tune and dial up a joule thief to frequencies if they are over 500hz,
The weblist did not say hz so I want to be sure that is what is meant,
So, when it says 6, or 600 it means 6hz, or 6khz
Is that right?

I have a friend who was needing one of these just the other day. I can fill him in, but I want the info.

I will add, as well, that on the days when I asm doing a lot of experiments and I have a jtc on in my house for even a couple of hours, I feel really wonderful.
Once, I was feeling kinda punky and realized I had not had a jtc on for a week and just stuck a battery into a breadboard and I felt better. Maybe it was cuz I was having so much fun!

I know pulsed frequencies are healing.

I used to work with a pap imi machine. This is so powerful and excellent that it is totally discredited in all the internet afaik. It is amazing what some companies will do.

Rife had the same sort of trouble.

thanks
jeanna

Quote from: IronHead on February 01, 2010, 12:10:23 AM
Judge what? what the hell are you talking about ?  I have simply told you how the Beck system works.  Fuk I hate this forum!!

I think you guys hit the point. DC will form electrolysis in the body. But if you take a further look on Clark's research, her system actually gave a pulsed dc output.

In theory, a pulsed DC current will end up with pulsed plating. I presume pulse plating in the body is far more dangerous, particularly if a body has any large deposit of lead in the skeleton, nickel implants or dental mercury amalgam fillings. Have I missed anything?

( ps. I believe beck's system is okay. )

In fact, it was a kind of a pap imi machine. But as blueplanet said before - I didn't  feel better after probably because of the mercury in my body.

regards nymfe

Ironhead, I really appreciate your work on this!  I am sure I will have questions on how to make the device as well, so I thank you ahead of time!

Mark

IronHead,

could you please include me in the distribution of that PDF as well?

thanks.

@Ironhead
I apologize about my last post to you.  I had no right to vent my frustrations towards you.  I need to learn not to post when I am having a bad day.  Three winters isolated in Northern China is getting to me. 
Will not happen again.

Sorry,
Tishatang

Ok , I am still working on all the old Indian ways  which do include Dr Clark stuff as that is where she got it from as a test primer  and the electronic stuff from Beck and others as well , there is alot to cover.

I think what you want to do is raise the frequency of your whole body. This is the reason the pap-imi works. It is why the pulsed things work. Esp the really high ones.
It has nothing to do with electrolysis. It is energy at the quantum level changing the electrons at the same level.
When you raise the frequency the junk either cannot effect you or you will be so strong the parasites or virus or bacteria will not have a chance.
It is basically what psychic healers do. They do it with THEIR frequency effecting the patient.
This is technology doing the same.
They both work. The higher the frequency the better,
If you get too high be careful not to teleport! :D

for whatever it is worth.
jeanna

Well all I can say is that if you do this high freq stuff your need to be damn careful . There are some freqs that can really mess you up. I will stick to the natural ones that the body works in.

Yes Amigo  anyone that PMs me I will send the pdf or give a link to it.

Quote from: nymfe on February 01, 2010, 07:07:15 AM
In fact, it was a kind of a pap imi machine. But as blueplanet said before - I didn't  feel better after probably because of the mercury in my body.

regards nymfe

I do not have enough information about your health condition. But it seems that some of the comments given in the following article may be relevant to your situation:

"Since most people do not get ES (Electrical hypersensitivity ), even when heavily exposed to EMF, it can be presumed that there are additional factors in ES patients making them hypersensitive to EMF. Among factors that have been discussed are chemicals such as mercury from amalgam fillings and brominated flame retardants from new computers as well as psychological mechanisms, such as a Pavlovian conditioned reflex. "

http://www.el-allergi.dk/ockerman2.htm

I hope the above link can save a lot of arguments in this forum.  If it doesn't work, then here are some relevant, but less helpful reference materials:

http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C598401.html

The symptoms surrounding electrical hypersensitivity have similarities to those of amalgam-related illnesses. A study by engineer Per H�gstedt and orthodontist Dr Thomas �rtendahl at Chalmers University of Technology shows that certain VDT's cause an increase in the release of mercury from dental amalgam. This indicates mercury toxicity must be given serious consideration.

http://www.feb.se/FEB/feb_info.html


(PS. there is no evidence that ES is parasite-related.)

First we must understand what is this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_%28paranormal%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etheric_body

Blue planet,
what you say seems convincing to me. Though I  extracted the amalgam fillings  the remains are still in my body.
I think I'm quite electrosensitive: Even the result of the CT Machine - the first time I did it- didn't show anything, it was literally empty.  :-[ The dentist is still kidding me today saying that I'm a danger to his computer.  ??? But the thing with the 'conditioned reflex' I dont understand.
regards nymfe

Strange thread here  ???. ..but as the group seems to consist mostly of male members I don't want to start a discussion on this. But to my opinion its more for the reason of the optical attraction that all above men and in between also women - are looking for younger partners wide under their own age than  the loose of sexual drive after the menopause of elder women.
Another reason why you bear don't probably find a partner in the same age could be that most of women don't want to 'fuck' rudly like a beast' as you described but prefere to make love which is something else  than put simply a stick in a cavity. ;D  regards nymfe

Quote from: nymfe on February 02, 2010, 01:20:44 PM
Blue planet,
what you say seems convincing to me. Though I  extracted the amalgam fillings  the remains are still in my body.
I think I'm quite electrosensitive: Even the result of the CT Machine - the first time I did it- didn't show anything, it was literally empty.  :-[ The dentist is still kidding me today saying that I'm a danger to his computer.  ??? But the thing with the 'conditioned reflex' I dont understand.
regards nymfe

If i were you, i would focus on removal of mercury, particularly the mercury compounds in the brain.

Mercury can remain in the central nervous system for 35 plus years. Because of the presence of the blood brain barrier, it is very difficult to remove it, particularly when you are not a vegan. But this does not mean it is impossible.

Organic mercury in the central nervous system can be oxidized into inorganic mercury, which is far more destructive to the nerve cells. If my understanding is correct, low frequency electromagnetic waves or ionizing radiations can worsen a situation like yours. I am just tossing possbility.

blueplanet, but how to remove mercury in the brain?????

That there is something wrong with the status of my nerves since a long time ago - I know. But what about a remedy? I already tried with spirulina.
regards nymfe

Quote from: nymfe on February 04, 2010, 02:38:23 PM
blueplanet, but how to remove mercury in the brain?????

That there is something wrong with the status of my nerves since a long time ago - I know. But what about a remedy? I already tried with spirulina.
regards nymfe

If my understanding is correct, spirulina and many other chelating agents can only chelate mercury in the blood stream.

The half-life of mercury or compounds made with mercury in the blood plasma is approximately half a year. In other words, if you can stop ingesting mercury or any other glutathione-depleting substances, then the blood mercury burden should decline by half within half a year.  Taking spirulina might help, but not much if you are still ingesting mercury or glutathione-depleting substances.

The problem is:  Organic mercury has a high affinity for the brain and nervous system. It will remain there for several decades. Organic mercury in the brain can be converted into inorganic mercury, which will not leave the brain or cross the blood brain barrier. Ingesting spirulina might speed up the process of mercury elimination from the blood, but most likely, the brain mercury concentration would not change very much.

Andy Culter is a guru on mercury toxicity. His treatment protocol involves round-the-clock detoxification with an antioxidant called "alpha lipoic acid". According to some online information, with his approach, it would take about six years to complete a detoxification process. But many parents of autistic children found improvement with his treatment protocol.

I believe there are likely safer and more reliable alternatives for chelation of brain mercury. But unfortunately, these so-called alternatives might have stirred up a lot of controversy as well. If you have time, I suggest you do a bit of research on this topic. There are many under-researched areas such as vitamin D, sunlight, glutathione, gamma-glutamyl transpeptidase, etc, etc.

MMS (i.e. Sodium Chlorite) is supposed to oxidize Mercury and aid in it's removal from the body. People have done the hair folical test and the mercury is gone but there is some question as to how reliable this type of test is with regards to the removal in other parts of the body.

Hope it helps,

Will

Blueplanet and Will,

whatever - thank you for your advise.

I have been researching a lot in the Internet and there are several methods described and you cant prove them all. Which to choose? :-\

To tell the truth I have already resigned . To my opinion during this life I have to continue living with mercury in my brain and for sure in my nervous system.

Chemical remedies heal on one side and kill on the other. :'(

regards nymfe

Be careful, MMS is a strong oxidizing agent.

Quote from: nymfe on February 05, 2010, 12:40:46 PM
Blueplanet and Will,

whatever - thank you for your advise.

I have been researching a lot in the Internet and there are several methods described and you cant prove them all. Which to choose? :-\

To tell the truth I have already resigned . To my opinion during this life I have to continue living with mercury in my brain and for sure in my nervous system.

Chemical remedies heal on one side and kill on the other. :'(

regards nymfe

When I said something safer and more reliable, I meant something like this:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/12/04/how-sunshine-and-vitamin-d-can-help-you-eliminate-mercury.aspx

This is an overunity forum where we can freely exchange ideas about tesla's technology. This one is one of those.