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My first post failed. I am new to this website and I need to learn how to use it. I was trying to post the following:

I just sent the email below and attached PDF file (sketches) to several free energy nonprofit organizations. I would like to add that all free energy devices based on the application of high voltage DC pulses to a coil are based on Tesla discovery. It includes the devices form Steven Marks, Edwin Gray, etc.

My email reads:

Because of my workload, I will not be able to build a prototype for the next couple years. The purpose of this letter is to publish it (TPU theory of operation). Once in the public domain, I expect many people could build the TPU, test it, and create a mathematical model that can be used for design purpose.

It is also my hope, a) to stop what I call the “Spanish Inquisition” of the 21st century, in which many people dedicated to science are still being killed and threatened, and b) to awake the scientific community from colleges and universities. These educational entities should be ashamed for marginalizing the man who has made the greatest contribution to human society. Can you imagine our present world deprived from (Tesla) poly-phase electrical system? Or, can you imagine our future world furnished with Tesla free energy technology? Tesla was very right when he stated that our future belongs to him (isn’t it?)

(FROM LETTER)
Less than a year ago, I watched a video of Steven Mark’s Toroidal Power Unit (TPU) and I was shocked to see a free energy device with such a high energy density. These videos can be found at:

1.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDViLnziT8
2.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQXXodFVUCA
3.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq1lhuBFmDI

I immediately suspected that this apparatus was using a technology that is not taught at any place or college. I was intrigue and I started an internet search for more information about the TPU. After few months, I was not able to find any relevant information, just a bunch of published lab experiments claiming to be closed to having a working prototype. The approach for most of these experiments is to have three coils spaced at 120º in a circular core and each being fed with a square waveform 120º out of phase. The more I studied them, the more I got frustrated. I felt even worse when I learned that Mr. Marks has been hiding for more then 10 years. It all looked like this wonderful technology reached a dead end.
However, I was not ready to give up. I needed to change strategy, I realized that I was not going to find any do-it yourself manual or schematic. Then, it was when I decided to look for information on any physical experiment that will allow me to make the connection and figure out the operation of the TPU. I have known for some time that Tesla did some experiments with high frequency and high voltage coils, and that he was also awarded many patents related to these experiments. I started on using new keywords for my search, “Tesla”, “free energy”, and “high frequency coils”. After a few days of searching, I hit the jackpot. I came across with a PDF book “The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity” by Peter A. Lindemann, D. Sc. Mr. lindemann had already taken on the task of connecting a free energy device from Edwin Gray with the work done by Nicolas Tesla. This book was really my Rosetta Stone! I will keep the following explanation simple, but it should be sufficient to understand the basic operation of the TPU.

1)   What I learned about Tesla experiments

Figure 1 (attached) is a sketch illustrating the physical phenomenon discovered by Tesla around the year 1890. Figure 1 shows a square wave DC voltage source being applied to a solid copper wire. Based on hundreds of experiments, Tesla found that if a high voltage DC pulse is applied to a solid copper wire, a harmless energy will radiate perpendicular to the wire if the DC voltage pulse is tuned within certain parameters. The parameters are related to the DC pulse voltage, frequency, and duty cycle. Tesla defined this radiating energy as being of different type and of different behavior than the known electromagnetic waves. That is, the radiant energy cannot be defined or predicted by using Maxwell equations.
Tesla had to device a new method of analysis for his unknown “radiant phenomenon”. Tesla noticed that this radiant energy can travel faster than a conventional electric current based on charge particle because it seems to have no mass. Tesla observed that this radiant energy can penetrate almost any material and will produce electrostatic effects when striking metals such as inducing voltages. This type of energy is also known as “radiant electricity”.
Figure 2 (attached) represents the basic of the Tesla “Electrical Transformer” as described in his U.S. patent # 598,138, awarded in November 2, 1897. The construction of this transformer consists of an air core, a 2-turn primary coil, and a multiple turn secondary with a coned shape. If a DC pulse voltage is applied to the 2-turn primary coil and tuned to meet the Tesla conditions, a) a radiant energy will be emitted out perpendicular to the solid wire of the primary coil, and b) a voltage will be induced when the radiating energy reaches the secondary coil. Tesla found that extremely high voltages can be induced, which otherwise would not be possible to obtain by using standard electrical transformers based on magnetic couplings. Furthermore, Tesla also discovered that high power gains (in the thousands order of magnitude) can be achieved with this electrical transformer.

2)   The TPU embodiment

Figure 3 (attached) is my proposed embodiment of a TPU based on Tesla teachings on radiant electricity. It consists of an air core transformer with a toroidal shape. The primary is constructed with a 1 or 2-turn solid copper wire. The primary coil is placed in the center of the air core. The secondary consists of a thinner solid copper wire wrapped around the air core. If the applied DC pulse is tuned to meet the Tesla conditions, 1) a harmless radiant energy will be emitted from the primary coil, 3) a voltage is induced when the radiant energy reaches the secondary coil, and 4) from Tesla experiments we also expect to have power amplification.

3)   My observations

It is clear from the text that the tuning or matching of the DC voltage source parameters is critical. The voltage level, the frequency, and the duty cycle (pulse width) must be just right. Tesla stated that the pulse width should be less than 0.1 micro-second. It seems that the goal is to apply a high voltage DC pulse with a corresponding pulse width sized to minimize the flow of conventional currents (electrons, ions, etc). Recall that an electrical current has an associated magnetic field. We are not interested in generating magnetic fields, but radiant energy.
I am not convinced that the Ether theory can explain the power amplification effect. I think the power gain is due to the fact that there is no interaction between the radiant energy originating from the primary coil and the magnetic field generated by a conventional electrical current circulating in the secondary coil in response to a connected load. In other words, Lenz’s law does not apply to this device because the coupling between the primary and secondary coils is not magnetic but radiant. An increase of load current in the secondary will not force an increase of primary current as it is the case for standard transformers with magnetic coupling.
The radiant energy cannot be generated if a sinusoidal voltage is applied. If we are looking for radiant electricity we must excite the primary coil with a sudden change of high Vdc pulse.
Finally, I do not recommend using too many turns for the primary coil; otherwise, the self-inductance may affect the shape of the applied DC pulse.

PS:
Please, make this site more user friendly. I do not know what "Options" means and there is no help for more information or calrification.

there is more to it and YES YOU need to make a magnetic feild ..  and if you make 1 like you have showen in your dwg ...

you are makeing a magnetic feild from your primary 1 or 2 or 3 turn coil ..  and colapseing it ..  this is where your radient spark comes from .. you can use high voltage or low voltage high amprage ..  or add NEO ZAP .. : )

so ..   the magnetic feild there are 4 in actualaty...  from 2 coils all 1 wire ...  you have  your primary of low self inductance wich produces a HUGE SPARK.. and you have a coil wraped around that coil .. like otto's test .. 

so now you have a coil of higher self inductance .. you BORROW THE CURRENT  from the source .. to create the large magnetic feild ..  from the primary .. could BE A PANCAKE... now it comes out of the primary to the secondary / choke /pump / etc....  this works its way back to your supply ..  and you can put 2 make and breakes in the loop .. should you choose to do so ... 

your load goes on the  primary ..  when you cut you pulse or break the connection in the loop via any means .. your feilds colpase produceing a high voltage spike and a high current spike .. 

and now depending on windeing dirrection .. your coil can fight or work togather ...   if it works togather this is the result ... 

it kicks its self ...  lol  this means  engery flows in your primary ..   round and round .. goes out and squeezes the primary magnetic feild induceing it  useing the magnetic feild your secondary coil produced ..  witch in the JT this in effect is your resistor .. or delay line .. or whatever ..  so you feed back the used engery via magnetic squeez ..  and your secondary is a choke so it lowers the actual power consumed by the device .. but you still USED ALL THE CURRENT TO MAKE THE FEILD IN THE PRIMARY ..  altho the 2 kicks combined and the engery BORROWED is sent out to do do USEFULL WORK ..

regards!

W

Quote from: bajac on April 25, 2010, 12:42:34 PM
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Figure 2 (attached) represents the basic of the Tesla “Electrical Transformer” as described in his U.S. patent # 598,138, awarded in November 2, 1897.
...

Do you mean 593,138?

Oddly enough, 598138 could wind coils.

Quote from: Rosphere on April 25, 2010, 11:07:44 PM
Do you mean 593,138?

Quote from: giantkiller on April 25, 2010, 11:17:31 PM
Oddly enough, 598138 could wind coils.

I noticed that as well.  LOL!

what do you guys think of FLB'S? 60hz and magnetics and alum ...

ANTI GRAVITY ?

hummm goes the FLB'S  and MOTS  WHEN I HIT IT WITH A NEO ZAP SPARK GAP ...

IST!

Don Smith's recharging the batteries while running a ckt are the 2 currents. DC going out and the ac inflection going back on the dc mag field performing ac pulse charging the supply/batteries/capacitors(all the same).

Hello all,

@bajac

first I have to say that Mannix posted for me a docu where I described the behaviour of particles in a pulsed coil. Its in the ECD thread....I dont know where.

There are a lot of points that I cant and dont want to "buy" so lets start:

1. you mentioned a harmless energy will radiate out of the wires when they are pulsed.

It seems that you never tried to pulse a wire and never felt so bad as I was, not to mention my visitor that jumped from his chair in the moment when I switched on my oscillators. Yes, a harmless energy!!!!

2. the energy - particles HAVE mass. Im talking about the particles in a TPU. Of course I can prove my words.

3. about figure 3: I was for a long time playing with the idea that we use the wrong coils that has to be pulsed so I made the same setup like in this figure. I was fine working but.......

HE said: control coils wound ALL OVER the collectors....but the ECD is a little bit different but still a good working TPU!! You love it or not, ha,ha.

4. why are you all the time talking about a high voltage? A lot of people are doing the same.

Once I was working with over 50kV, lighted a bulb but ....no magic.
I was curious yesterday and measured with my scope the voltage in my ECD: the biggest I measured was 700V and I lit a bulb without any problems but.....still no magic. But the voltage is a little bit high. I should reduce it to maybe 200V or less for a ECD. Of course this ...lets say 200V can also light my 100W bulb. Thats for sure.

And....why do you think the wires are solid copper wires? Wouldnt it be much better to hit a litz wire with a pulse and collect the result with a lamp wire?

As you see one is theory and somethng totally different is work on a workbench.

So, Steven Mark is the father of the TPU and NOT Tesla.

Otto

Hello all,

@Loner

I dont know the real name of the particles fired out of the wires. They are maybe photons if they have mass, maybe electrons, if they have mass or something else but I know for sure that they HAVE mass. Or, its possible that NOTHING is fired out of the wires and what I see when my wires are pulsed, that this pulsating causes the particles that are all around us to "move" away of the coils and when the plse stopps then the "empty room" is again filled with this particles. But when they are filling the empty space around a pulsed TPU, they are in the same time also filling the wires....Some sort of action and reaction. Hard to describe this in words. And as you see, wild guesses.

Hmmmm, as I have to trust SM and he told us that the controls are wound ALL AROUND the collectors ......I really thought for a long time that we misunderstood SM and the controls are horizontally wound and the collectors are vertically wound all over the controls but.....who knows better then SM??

Hmmm again, ha,ha, yesterday I was working with my self made little transformer. Output around 10kV or more. A 100W bulb lighted with maybe 1-2A.
My ECD works with around 600V - 700V/ 1 - 2A to light a 100W bulb.
My previous TPUs with all kinds of voltage to light a bulb. The bulb was lighted but.....thats all. I want much more.
As you can see its stil not clear how much voltage has a TPU to "produce".

My plan is to reduce the voltage of my coils to around 300V in my ECD and to 1000V in my 15" TPU to see what will happen. Of course there are a lot of possible solutions to CUT a high voltage......better not to continue because I didnt try it.

Otto

Hello,

Correction: the Tesla patent number for “Electrical Transformer” is 593,138. Thank you for the input.

I think some clarification is needed.

Please, note that the harmless energy is obtained only when the DC pulse voltage, frequency, and duty cycles meet what I call the “Tesla conditions”. Tesla observed that dangerous type of radiant energies are generated when the above conditions are not met. BY ALL MEANS BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IF YOU PLAN ON EXPERIMENTING WITH THESE DEVICES!!! 

Because its harmless nature, the Tesla radiant electricity is also known as “Cold Electricity”. This property allowed Tesla to design a wireless power system as defined in his patent #645,576 “System of Transmission of Electrical Energy” dated March 20, 1900.

A question that I have asked myself is, why did Tesla design the secondary multi-turn coil with a cone form? My guess is that Tesla knew if a cylindrical coil were used, the inner coil turns would be shielded by the first turn. If this is the case, then, the first turn illuminated by the radiant energy would be the only turn having induced voltage. Tesla solved this problem by offsetting the coil turns in a cone shape.

Quote from: otto on April 26, 2010, 01:28:26 AM
Hello all,

@bajac

first I have to say that Mannix posted for me a docu where I described the behaviour of particles in a pulsed coil. Its in the ECD thread....I dont know where.

There are a lot of points that I cant and dont want to "buy" so lets start:

1. you mentioned a harmless energy will radiate out of the wires when they are pulsed.

It seems that you never tried to pulse a wire and never felt so bad as I was, not to mention my visitor that jumped from his chair in the moment when I switched on my oscillators. Yes, a harmless energy!!!!

2. the energy - particles HAVE mass. Im talking about the particles in a TPU. Of course I can prove my words.

3. about figure 3: I was for a long time playing with the idea that we use the wrong coils that has to be pulsed so I made the same setup like in this figure. I was fine working but.......

HE said: control coils wound ALL OVER the collectors....but the ECD is a little bit different but still a good working TPU!! You love it or not, ha,ha.

4. why are you all the time talking about a high voltage? A lot of people are doing the same.

Once I was working with over 50kV, lighted a bulb but ....no magic.
I was curious yesterday and measured with my scope the voltage in my ECD: the biggest I measured was 700V and I lit a bulb without any problems but.....still no magic. But the voltage is a little bit high. I should reduce it to maybe 200V or less for a ECD. Of course this ...lets say 200V can also light my 100W bulb. Thats for sure.

And....why do you think the wires are solid copper wires? Wouldnt it be much better to hit a litz wire with a pulse and collect the result with a lamp wire?

As you see one is theory and somethng totally different is work on a workbench.

So, Steven Mark is the father of the TPU and NOT Tesla.

Otto

STEVEN MARKS IS A GAY FAGGET! 

SIMPLE ... AND HE CLEARLY NEVER PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD HIS SIMPLE BASIC DEVICE ..

PEROID!


REGARDS!

IF THERE IS HEAT IT IS INPROPERLY BUILT !

CORSE SM WAS TRYING TO DO IT WITH 3 FREQS ...  I DID IT WITH 1

AND IT IS TESLAS KICK PEROID : )

SO SM  CAN GO PLAY WITH HIMSELF...

TESLA IS THE MASTER INVENTER AND ALWAYS WAS .. : )

IST!


AND HERE YA GO OTTO ....   WATCH MY VIDEO ...  OLD BOOK LESSON #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XalYflxnP3c

OOOOO WHATS IN MY BOOK ....  HUMMMMMMMM


OTTO  GO TRY IST'S TEST ! 

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO ...  YOU TAKE A AAA ALMOST COMPLEATLY DEAD .... : )  FIND A FLB TOUCH IT TO THE INPUT WIRES ... HOOK UP YOUR SCOPE ... WHAT IS THE EFFECT ? 

i input 1vdc to the source .. i have 1500vdc exit all wires ...

regards ..

so my flb's are 60 hz .. tuned magnetic transformers ... hummmm goes the flb's ....

so i mounted 5 per kicker board ...  i added 60 fast recovery diodes to the transformers ...

then i stuck 2 on my mini stack .. i will send pulses of 60 hz intrupted to the supply ..

so now im PULSEING THE FUNDEMENTAL FREQ .. IN pulses that dubble the freq .. or what ever i choose ...

my machenical switcher runs 36 rev to 1 of my high speed motor

bla bla bla

go fish ...  im building kick ass things...

ist!

BTW  IF YOU BUILD ANYTHING USEING A PEICE OF WIRE .. A CORE OR NO CORE AND A SWITCHED INPUT ... OR A FREQ ...

YOU USE MY WORK .. YOU WILL GAIN NO PATTENDS AND I WILL SUE .. REGARDS AGIN ...

PROVE ME WRONG ... YOU CAN NOT SIR !

BTW SM WAS A MERE STEPPING STONE TO THE REAL TRUTH AS THE BITCH LIKE TO BEND OVER ...  IS HE FRENCH BY CHANCE ... ? 

I HAVE A REALLY BIG WODDEN MALLET ... AND IM A PLAY WACK A MOLE ... : )

SO MANY WANTED TO PISS ON ME ... IN THE PAST ... SO NOW I SHIT ON YOU ! HUMMM  BETTER GET THE UMBRELLA ...  ITS ABOUT TO THROW CHUNKS ...

1 more comment on this ...

if i fire at 120hz ... what happins?  im useing 60 hz fundenental ... 

this is EXACTALLY WHAT HAPPINS

MY CAPS DRAIN at 60 hz .. at 120 im dubble banging .. this means my caps only fill at 60 hz... so now there empty when i rebang them .. duh! 

but are they really empty or do they have infinate engery ? 

ist

LAST VIDEO FOR THE GAYLORDS .... 

HERE IN THIS VIDEO I MADE A PULSE MOTOR WOBBLE TUNNED USEING 1 WIRE 1 REED SWITCH AND 1 AA BATTERY ...

IT IS HITTING 3 FREQS ... 1 INPUTED SOURCE 1 SWITCH 1 WIRE .... BLA BLA ...

KIDS PLAY !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHPd9-Majso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHbz6BqejQc&feature=related

AND THERE YA GO ... 

LOOK MOM NO BATTERIES WANT TO ARGUE ?   ASK MK1 HOW HE FEELS THE GAY LITTLE FAGGET !

1st
Why you bein so nasty bud?

Are you gonna share something at this open source forum ?[PDF]
Or just play "wacky mole"?

Chet

Quote from: ramset on April 26, 2010, 11:23:26 AM
1st
Why you bein so nasty bud?

Are you gonna share something at this open source forum ?[PDF]
Or just play "wacky mole"?

Chet

do you realize how rude this world was to me ?  ??

i will be nasty !  and kick all asses !

try me !

william

just know when a gay fagget comes to try to take my hat ...  i kick back and burn you !

i have shared some of my work .... and only a small serveing ....  and the faggs choke ....  so ... 

BABY STEPS ..... : )

Quote from: Loner on April 26, 2010, 03:58:50 AM
I am very happy to finally see that people have working TPU's.

Otto, I must comment on your statements, as they are all important.
(At least they seem that way to me...)

1.  Harmless?  That, for me, is a tough call.  I consider normal DC
electricity, in conventional terms, quite harmless.  Of course, in
certain applications or in high voltage, it can be quite deadly.  ANY
material can be both, in the right quantities, even oxygen, so I could
not commit myself to either opinion without specific details of the
circumstances.  I know you understand this, but for those that have
never had any training of any kind, this is important.  I.E.  I test 9V
transistor batteries by touching them to my tongue.  I wouldn't even
consider testing a 110V or 220V line that way, and if it were DC, I
am certain it would be deadly to try.  (Stupid of me to even mention, eh?)

2.  All Particles have mass?  I assume you would include Photons?
(I'm not talking virtual photons as those aren't real particles.  That
is a discussion for another thread.)  Of course, electrons have mass.
I am just wondering what other particle you could be discussing, as
you state you can prove it and I believe you 100%.  If discussing
photons, that would be a Nobel prize, so you must be considering
some other particle.  Just curious on that one.  (Note:  I would
agree that ANY physically existing "Standing Wave" particle would
have the characteristic of definable mass, so you need not answer
specifically, unless you have knowledge or a particle I am unaware
of that has a substantial effect on the process.  I am hoping....

3. Which coil is which!  This has been going around many times.
Grumpy and I argued many times, to no avail, as the entire unit
has been cloaked in misdirection for a loooong time.  Consider
that the center torrid is MORE important than the outer "Coil".
Of course, seeing that I don't have an operating unit and it seems
that you do, I submit that your information is better than mine.
(Your workbench is certainly more productive, either way...)

4. Actually, SM stated these were high voltage devices, but I
saw the original readings on the meters at 60-70 V.  Is that a
"High" voltage?   I have been bugged by this very same thing
for quite a while and am wondering what really is the "Crossover"
point.  Me, being a chicken and coward, consider anything over
24VDC or 30VAC to be HV.  ANY voltage needing 3 digits is too
high for me.  That being said, what bajac mentions seems WAY
too high for me to consider, although certainly possible.  I would
be very interested in any thoughts you might have about why
so many seem to think it's required.  (I'm ignoring the 600V
crossover mentioned by Tesla as this is an unproven concept.)
Is it possible that "Armchair" workers, who never actually built
a test setup, like to push the values out of easily testable ranges
to prevent their actual construction?  (I have wondered about this...)

As you probably have noticed, I gave up the idea of working this
way very soon after trying it, as I didn't have an understanding of
what RE, as described here, really was.  I must thank Grumpy, though
I haven't ever heard what happened to him, for the insight he gave
me in this area.  (Plus the big help on dipole currents....)  If I ever
learned enough to be able to induce a "Pure" RE pulse from the center
coil, then this would be very viable, but I am nowhere near that as
the elimination of electron flow, or the separation of the two effects
has proven to be very difficult.  More than 90% of standard parts that
I get from electronics stores pass induced RE weather biased on or off,
which makes their use quite confusing, to say the least.  (There is a
very nice paper out on the problem of speed difference in this area
with reference to MOSFET control as the internal diode WILL pass the
one type of energy while blocking the other during the relative time
between the source and the part.  Nasty math, but the effects were
easily measurable, once you knew what you were looking for.  That
was a real eye-opener for me, but I cannot apply it in real life, Yet...
I"m afraid I cannot re-produce the paper, as I only read the hard copy
and have no scan of it.  I'll try to re-borrow, if there is any interest.)

At least, from what you and GK mention, I can assume that the proper
design of a TPU "NEED NOT" make any use of this type of energy, which
should simplify the design considerably.  (Meaning, 200-300 years and
I might get somewhere.....)

OK, that said, I mostly agree with part one of Bajac's post, as this
is a fairly good, basic list of a Tesla coil.
Part two slides into questionable areas that require testing to prove
either way.  Been there, done that, and my knowledge at the time
was not up to the task of a reputable test.  I still can't disregard the
possibility of this method, but I lean away from it in the TPU concept.
Part three is a nice reading from Tesla info, but seems to have no
real reference to the TPU.  Again, it doesn't mean that it is wrong,
but I couldn't say till Number two had test results to back it up.

This really means that the TPU DOESN'T use any form of Radiant
energy conversion, or Tesla would be the father.  The statement
you make implies this IS NOT the case, which, for now, I will accept
as a good possibility.  (I have trust in both your observations.)

I can say for sure, that IF Tesla RE were in use, a SOLID wire would
be the way to go for the "Emitter" section, but as you state, that is
making an unproven assumption.  The "MASS" of the copper would
be the most important factor, in the RE case, so even a stranded
wire would be reducing the effect.  Of course, the reverse IS true
for the "Collection" part.  Now, I hope you see my overall confusion
as to which coil is which, and why I'm still interested in finding out
what a "Working" device is like.  SM describes the Control, and a
"Collector", but doesn't really mention an "Emitter", which would
preclude any RE consideration.  (Aren't I bad with self-contradiction!)

Anyway, any clarity offered is greatly appreciated, and I still feel that
a TPU - like device could be constructed in this manner, but it would
NOT be a copy of an SM TPU.  There is more than one way to skin
a cat, as they say.

Special note to GK:  I was referring to two Separate currents flowing
in one wire, which was initially proven by Tesla.  This was fully tested
and proven by several members here, one of whom I already mentioned.
I have had trouble fully understanding this, but after a few PM's with
prints, and quite a few tests, it IS a common thing.  It can be used,
if fully understood, to see how certain signals can run back down the
power line to return up to other devices, and these same signals may
not even show up on a scope connected to the input line.  It was a
very interesting time for me, and I learned a lot, but now it just sits
in the back of my head as a reminder that there is more to all this
stuff than meets the eye, or the scope probe, as it were.  Think
about how an AV plug works at low frequencies, so RF coupling is
not part of the operation and the concept can become clear.  Hope
I haven't totally messed up this thread.  I'll shut up now and get back
to work.  (I just have to throw a pulse into a central wind like this,
again, to see what happens.  It's been a long time and my awareness
is a little higher these days.  That, and I have learned a lot from all
the various ideas thrown out around here.   Remember, you cannot
run such an RE generating coil from "Rectified" AC line.  That type of DC
power is NOT the same as a true DC source, like a battery or Generator.
I can't fully explain that here, but there is a difference.  A "Tube"
rectifier, or germanium diodes are fine, or a phase buck coil as Tesla
patented is OK, but forget about basic stock diodes without fully taking
into account the differences in setup times between the two types of
energy.  One stops before the other, if it is affected at all.)

Now I must really sound foolish, eh?  I'm really typing too much.  Sorry.

here ya go .... 

orbit I CANT MESURE IT ON A SCOPE

REGARDS ..

IST

your no fool ! : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvJ05EDykQ

orbiting cap no input chargeing a dc battery ... : )  how many more videos do you need ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8UVYB3WYN8&feature=related

i have a cap that is self running with gain too  want that video too ?

: )


try me !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwmhL9gvKo&feature=related

: )  want more ?  lol   i have 300 more videos ... : )

here ya go high rpm 3.6vdc input : )   ps it runs on my orbit cap battery ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3MH1Bb3uU

ist mini powerstack ....


abcdefghik.....  lol

ist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSyJh1oYMfQ

so   guess what this unit gets a roof and it sits out side ...    the roof is the solar pannel .. build it a house ...

i can do it with out motion ...  but then the fools get lost along the way ..... 

btw if the true steven marks is not gay im sorry to cause you greef !  if he is ...  SMARTEN UP ! ALREADY ...

Hello all,

@IST

you have no idea about the TPU so dont A about Steven Mark and the TPU.

Your videos are nice. I hope in 5 years I can buy something from you in a store. It takes around 5 years until a prodiction is started.

Otto

Quote from: otto on April 27, 2010, 12:47:11 AM
Hello all,

@IST

you have no idea about the TPU so dont A about Steven Mark and the TPU.

Your videos are nice. I hope in 5 years I can buy something from you in a store. It takes around 5 years until a prodiction is started.

Otto

is that so otto ...   perhaps i know more than you can IMAGINE ...  perhaps i show SAFE THINGS ...  and basic things  AS UMMMM MOST MISUNDERSTOOD THE TPU ...

REGARDS!

IST

imagine i took the 120 diodes and fired a tpu ....
AND OTTO IT IS TESLAS WORK PEROID ... A TPU IS A POWER SOURCE ...  AND ALL ENGERY RELATED DEVICES USE TESLAS PRINCABLES  INCLUDEING THE BASIC TPU ..   

THERE IS BUT 1 WAY THE TPU WILL NOT USE TESLAS WORK AND THAT IS IF IT IS A STEP UP DC TRANSFORMER WITH OUT ANY ALTERATIONS ...  MUST BE PURE DC ...  TO NOT USE TESLAS WORK

ANY OTHER WAY  IT IS TESLAS ... : P

BTW ... DONT WASTE MY TIME ...  I KNOW WHAT I KNOW THROUGH TESTING ! ALL SHARED PUBLIC!  JUST WATCH MY MAGNETIC SYNCED OSCOLATOR WITH 1 TRANSISTOR ....  MAGNETIC HARMONIC TUNEING .. DUH

BELEAVE ME I CAN  BLOW YOUR MIND ...  : )

AND WHEN I TELL YOU TIME AND TIME AGIN IT IS TESLAS .. I MEAN IT IS TESLAS PEROID ... 

PROVE ME WRONG !  YOU WILL FAIL ! AS I HAVE PREVISOULY PROVEN THE REALITY HERE ...

I WILL EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THE NS COILS USE TESLAS WORK ! : )

I CAN KEEP GOING ... : )  LIKE PICK AN INVENTOR !   : )  MULLER ?   YEP SAME OLD BEDINI SAME OLD NS SAME OLD  EV GRAY SAME OLD S. M . OTIS T CAR ...  HUBBARD MPI EMERY RODIN ..  I CAN KEEP GOING ... 

AS I SAID PICK AN INVENTOR ... 

SO OTTO SHORT AND LONG OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TESLA NEVER INVENTED THE COILS THE TPU USES ... WITCH IS BS ... FOR SM TO BE THE ORIGONATOR OF THEASE COILS HE WOULD HAD TO HAVE LIVED B4 TESLA .. AND PATTENED HIS WORK ... WICH INFACT IS NOT THE CASE ... 

THERE FOR IT IS BASED UPON TESLAS WORK ... PEROID!

NUF SED!

BTW TESLAS KICK  IS MY KICK RA'S KICK ...  GO LEARN YOUR HISTORY!   WHERE IN THE HELL DID TESLA LEARN ... 

RIGHT MY PARENTS ... !

SAVEING YOU FROM THE NOTHING YOU HAVE BECOME .... !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2oQZmFSKM

HORUS

do not get me started on zeros .... ok !  counter rotating feilds ...  sm's work bull shit ! teslas work ... there ya go ...  but the world needs a power supply not  worm hole generators ...  !!!!!!

the inductance of my kicker board  each is 2.65 H and both as 1 the inductance is 5.15 H   so ....   : )

now what otto ....  you need a core coil .... and a squeez coil eh? lol  of low self inductance ...  right ...

lol

or a transformer ... or what ever the hell you want ....  ; )

HOW ABOUT A BANK OF BOOST CAPS ... : )  EACH CAP HOLDING 10 000 WATTS ... : )

You only need 1 FLB and 1 spark gap to produce huge amounts of energy. Any more than that and it is useless. Resonance is the action of 1 source against 1 target timed correctly. Period. The materials are simply your choice.

Since it is Tesla, why the show and tell of massive mechanical and abundance? Are you trying to show and teach?

Mr. Hilsfinger, you have done a great job exposing yourself to the powers that be. Should you at any time power on your devices and power your house in a demo for all the world to see: that will the last switch you turn...

Prove me wrong on this one, my friend. You are already in the cross hairs. Play the fool and stay alive. Be the fool and be over.

Quote from: giantkiller on April 27, 2010, 02:45:49 PM
You only need 1 FLB and 1 spark gap to produce huge amounts of energy. Any more than that and it is useless. Resonance is the action of 1 source against 1 target timed correctly. Period. The materials are simply your choice.

Since it is Tesla, why the show and tell of massive mechanical and abundance? Are you trying to show and teach?

Mr. Hilsfinger, you have done a great job exposing yourself to the powers that be. Should you at any time power on your devices and power your house in a demo for all the world to see: that will the last switch you turn...

Prove me wrong on this one, my friend. You are already in the cross hairs. Play the fool and stay alive. Be the fool and be over.

IS THAT SO ...  ?

clearly you missed how this works aswell .. 

what is my input ?   what is the job of my device ... does it USE A SPARK GAP ?  it does use a spark gap .. but a timed one .. there is a spark present upon colapse at the switched contact  but this is not on the input of the unit ... this is an effect of the unit ... upon colpase

IST!

answer no it does not use a spark gap ...  it runs on verry low inputted engery .. eb solar salt water  cosmic

you know gk this operates  on princibales i heve publiclly released years ago ...  my first invention ... 

regards !   what is the diff mechanical non mechanical ?   besides how do you know what i will do with MY DEVICE?  HUMMMM ?   yea ... 

you have no idea how my unit works .. and i will tell ya why ... you never built it i did . and am doing so ... there for you can not pick my work apart as it is mine not yours ... and you dont know the rest of the unit so ... 

go fish! 

this can and will power a HUGE MOTOR ...  im designing  so i do find it all so intresting those telling me how my inventions work .. or will work when they have no idea the origonal design for it ...

all my units serve multi uses !

not to be rude but im an inventor and i build things ...  so  yea .. this is a LOW VOLTAGE DEVICE ..   

it has 4 inputs solar earth battery salt water cell aux!  so what ever i cant change who i am nor would i   

The mechanical rotary switch is the spark gap.
You have successfully reproduced parts of the Tesla Ionizer with parts of Don Smiths circuit. A hybrid, if you will.
The rotary switch causes a high speed connection which causes a shock wave prior to conduction. The capacitors absorb this high rate of energy. The load then draws this off slowly. Your circuit merely stores up the inrush faster than the load can use it.
It can be done a thousands ways. What you have done is nothing new but I know you are proud of your work. It shows in your craftsmanship. Show the same concern to your fellow humans. Reality is like a mirror. It only reflects our image. How are you talking to the world? And what do you want back? Use it like the golden rule and you will remain safe from the harm caused by others.
In example: Don't piss off the apes if you're in the cage with them. Sounds like you are in both cases.

So drop the petty contrivances with the others and get you work done. Remain humble and be not proud. Avoid the noise and clammer lest you become one with it and perform no good at all.

Quote from: giantkiller on April 27, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
The mechanical rotary switch is the spark gap.
You have successfully reproduced parts of the Tesla Ionizer with parts of Don Smiths circuit. A hybrid, if you will.

what are the requirements to be considered a spark gap ?
im not sure i will have a rotary spark gap on the input at low voltage  low amparage ... there will be a fly back spark of HEMF HIGH ELECTRO MOTIVE FORCE ..
... on out put it could be or i can cap it now it is self powering .. from the first KICK..

AGIN MY WORK ...  same as my turbine self running design ... with a gear pump or tesla pump on the out put of the turbine ... wind it up and let it go ...

ist!

who the hell cares how the pressure is put into the system the first time ... as long as it is there ..  eh!

i could crank the turbine over till pressure is built then release upon its self .. as per turbine design ..

Quote from: giantkiller on April 27, 2010, 03:46:54 PM
The mechanical rotary switch is the spark gap.
You have successfully reproduced parts of the Tesla Ionizer with parts of Don Smiths circuit. A hybrid, if you will.
The rotary switch causes a high speed connection which causes a shock wave prior to conduction. The capacitors absorb this high rate of energy. The load then draws this off slowly. Your circuit merely stores up the inrush faster than the load can use it.
It can be done a thousands ways. What you have done is nothing new but I know you are proud of your work. It shows in your craftsmanship. Show the same concern to your fellow humans. Reality is like a mirror. It only reflects our image. How are you talking to the world? And what do you want back. Use it like the golden rule and you will remain safe from the harm caused by others.

im simply shareing what i have come to re know ...  indeed ... 

so i have choosen to share it opensource as i always have .. 

i encourage people to innovate there own ways to the roots ... but never loose the roots .. your plant will die ..

ist!

So what? You going to let some flies ruin your picnic? What is the larger goal you want to achieve?
Tell your dad the same thing I told you here. He will agree and tell you the same. Now move on, keep your chin up and your nose down. Finish your goal to win.

Intelligence shown is the value of wisdom given. Share with peace.

The goal is get finished not get even.

Quote from: innovation_station on April 27, 2010, 04:08:11 PM
im simply shareing what i have come to re know ... and im pissed at gay frogs that steal my work and try to take my hat  ... the little fuckers are gonna burn ! 

so

i made an example of mark so as to avoid similar problems down the road !

ist

for the record i have no problem with gay people it is not my choise .. that is yours to make ...  how ever  should 1 do as mark tryed to do ...  youll get  it ... back ...

i like mark but he will learn he will not claim my work as his ...  and it dont matter if your the best chess player in the world ... lol 

ok 

so no hard feelings mark !  but bet you wont try that agin ... 

gk  what is 322 anyway ... : )  lol

There 2 groups watching. Those that know and those that kill.
Show your talents not your hatred and your enemies will fall by the wayside. Don't waste your energy on your enemies, but apply your creativity to your talents.
Marco once told me that 'One day I will be able to look at design and know'. You know this too. Now get back to what you do best.

Don't look for problems, for enough will find you in their own time.

Nobody's work here is their own. It is merely a new copy of Tesla's. Did you not state this yourself? Then how can you lay claim? I have never. I immediately quoted Telsa and posted patents.

Quote from: innovation_station on April 27, 2010, 04:24:55 PM
i made an example of mark so as to avoid similar problems down the road !

ist

for the record i have no problem with gay people it is not my choise .. that is yours to make ...  how ever  should 1 do as mark tryed to do ...  youll get  it ... back ...

i like mark but he will learn he will not claim my work as his ...  and it dont matter if your the best chess player in the world ... lol 

ok 

so no hard feelings mark !  but bet you wont try that agin ... 

gk  what is 322 anyway ... : )  lol

Ist is tesla and Ra(acording to him self) , what can you say after that , he claims i stole his stuff when the exact opposite happened , he do seems to prefer gay people , most likely part of the reason his wife left ...

Anyway , don't get associated to this guy , he is bad all around ...

His plan is to steel anything you make , when ever he post is to say that he already built the same and its his , he will block anyone from getting patented in court , he got kicked out of here at least twice , and came back within a month , he can treat anyone as he wishes without any consequences , he is just one of those cap wearing civic driving juvenile jerk .

I wish people would wise up . The guy is sick .

He made an example out of me , lol lol lol

I got you kicked out for one month , that is the example you are referring to . lol

Quote from: Mk1 on April 27, 2010, 05:02:22 PM
Ist is tesla and Ra(acording to him self) , what can you say after that , he claims i stole his stuff when the exact opposite happened , he do seems to prefer gay people , most likely part of the reason his wife left ...

Anyway , don't get associated to this guy , he is bad all around ...

His plan is to steel anything you make , when ever he post is to say that he already built the same and its his , he will block anyone from getting patented in court , he got kicked out of here at least twice , and came back within a month , he can treat anyone as he wishes without any consequences , he is just one of those cap wearing civic driving juvenile jerk .

I wish people would wise up . The guy is sick .

He made an example out of me , lol lol lol

I got you kicked out for one month , that is the example you are referring to . lol

ill leave it here ...  !

you made an example of yourself ..

i have work to do ...

ist !

btw mark for something to be your own i kinda think ya got to be able to explain it ....  lol   and understand it ... then design a unit based upon what you have learned  ..  this i have done ...  : )

ta duh! 

As long as one claims evil is what one gets. Anybody who thinks they can get away from their return is sadly mistaken, good or bad. Let us forgive and watch with pity. I have been on and in this planet long enough to know what goes around, comes around. That is the reflection we cannot hide from.

Not to worry... The personalities here are very apparent.

'Turn the other cheek' means forgive and watch in horror as the real power gains justice not by our might.

Quote from: Mk1 on April 27, 2010, 05:02:22 PM
Ist is tesla and Ra(acording to him self) , what can you say after that , he claims i stole his stuff when the exact opposite happened , he do seems to prefer gay people , most likely part of the reason his wife left ...

Anyway , don't get associated to this guy , he is bad all around ...

His plan is to steel anything you make , when ever he post is to say that he already built the same and its his , he will block anyone from getting patented in court , he got kicked out of here at least twice , and came back within a month , he can treat anyone as he wishes without any consequences , he is just one of those cap wearing civic driving juvenile jerk .

I wish people would wise up . The guy is sick .

He made an example out of me , lol lol lol

I got you kicked out for one month , that is the example you are referring to . lol

Quote from: giantkiller on April 27, 2010, 05:13:27 PM
As long as one claims evil is what one gets. Anybody who thinks they can get away from their return is sadly mistaken, good or bad. Let us forgive and watch with pity. I have been on and in this planet long enough to know what goes around, comes around. That is the reflection we cannot hide from.

Yep i agree ! It is a matter of time before he gets his due(maybe he already got it, his life is pretty miserable ) i do feel sad for him.

He was all talk before i wroth in this tread , attacking me behind my back , now he has better things to do . Major LOL

Anyway , ist if you are a quarter of the man you think you are , then show it , Don't claim it , show it !

Quote from: Mk1 on April 27, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
Yep i agree ! It is a matter of time before he gets his due(maybe he already got it, his life is pretty miserable ) i do feel sad for him.

He was all talk before i wroth in this tread , attacking me behind my back , now he has better things to do . Major LOL

Anyway , ist if you are a quarter of the man you think you are , then show it , Don't claim it , show it !

go study what i have already  showen stupid ass !

ist ~

mk1 go build something ... 

How quickly this thread degraded...
Who is the source and who is the target as stated by who? Evil is always apparent.
Let no man boast lest he be found in error.

Quote from: innovation_station on April 27, 2010, 05:35:06 PM
go study what i have already  showen stupid ass !

ist ~

Quote from: innovation_station on April 27, 2010, 05:35:06 PM
go study what i have already  showen stupid ass !

ist ~

I honestly never look at your shit , all the hatred spewing out of your mouth , makes it hard to believe you have anything , and BTW i am working on The Agentgates coil and the JT , so ? You invented those?
I don't think so !

Now tell me all those nice things to my face midget , you will have a life experience ...

http://www.hanover.ca/siteengine/activepage.asp Nice town i bet everyone knows the village idiot ...

Get real ist , i will stay out of your way if you can stay out of mine .


But you do have a good point about the explanation part , but everyone has there own way of explaining things , this is the major reason the progress is so slow on this site , because people can't stop arguing on words , when i do something i don't assume i understand everything , i let people see what is there without imposing my view , that way other see things i may have mist. Also i usually try to use pictures and drawings so the language is not a barrier .So actually i do it on purpose , sorry you didn't get it .

what ever mark ...   lol 

see ya if ya ever fiigure it out ...  ...

ist !

Pre-conduction shockwave is the explanation that slid right by you.
No attempt was made to discuss it. The talk went right to denegrating attacks on other persons.

It is obvious the knowledge level spoken of is not known.

I will consider the source from now on.

Quote from: giantkiller on April 27, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Pre-conduction shockwave is the explanation that slid right by you.
No attempt was made to discuss it. The talk went right to denegrating attacks on other persons.

It is obvious the knowledge level spoken of is not known.

I will consider the source from now on.

im not formiliar with this  but it sounds like the H wave spike at the start is this pre conduction prior to the pulsed engery ..  so like spike pulse colpase   H

IST

but im going to carry on building and shareing  and  showing my device  as i compleate it : ) 

since mark still never learned .. i will add a jt for my motor to boost the voltage of it .. i will also add a ist modded cam board to shoot the working voltage of phase 2 WAY THE HECK UP ....

sure i can do this .. and it will run  on a boost cap with 0 feed back ...  for an extended peroid ..

to do this to the phase 2 device i will use a large value cap at higher voltage then i will bang from it a small cap wich siphons off the big one  and bang that at a verry high speed    my device is UNLIMITED !

: )

now i could always do this ... tooo : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9llYS_3s5Y&feature=related

ist

; )

The "father" of the TPU is none other then .... <drum roll> ......   Steven D Mark.


EM

i have showen teslas self running timeing device  it is hidden in 1 of his pattends .. 

the device splits in 2  it is the g in all his pattends ...  the generator .. i circled it in red where the device splits ...   any way ..

a tpu operates on his kick the verry kick tesla was paid by edision to fix .. !  and this he most certianlly did !

: )

this is his solution to the KICKBACK FROM THE DC GENERATORS .. the solution is to use a small expenditure of dc  to a high selfinductance winding a single coil will do for lab tests ..   lol  use the returned kick as the power source not the inputted dc ... 

: )

regards !

Quote from: EMdevices on April 28, 2010, 12:35:59 AM
The "father" of the TPU is none other then .... <drum roll> ......   Steven D Mark.


EM

btw EM steven said in his own words it is already pattented .. and not by him ... : )   or just read his words agin .. where he mentions teslas kick ..

hummmmmm

ist

altho stevens method was a round about way IMHO    i have tpu's that push 1 way and pull the other ...

my last way is the same as all my others altho i added pulsed fundmental freq of 60hz to magnetic transformers ..  then ya dubble bang it .. 

but i decided to make it run on super low voltage ..   my tpu's some of them use the basic tesla kick others use more advanced methods ..   however all are started from teslas kick ...

NO ACCEPTIONS !

Hello all,

finally something clever here.

@Loner

are you sure that here, in this forum, are NOT already plans posted for a TPU?? Hmmm I wouldnt bet on this, ha,ha.

Otto

I don't want to detract from tesla or anybody else,  but Steven D Mark put together a very unique set of components to tune into the magnetic frequency at his location and converted a lot of energy.  His devices (TPUs) are original in their operation, IMHO, and it is here where we might disagree. 

EM

Quote from: EMdevices on April 28, 2010, 01:09:26 AM
I don't want to detract from tesla or anybody else,  but Steven D Mark put together a very unique set of components to tune into the magnetic frequency at his location and converted a lot of energy.  His devices (TPUs) are original in their operation, IMHO, and it is here where we might disagree. 

EM

i agree it is fine to disagree ..  but i still beleave they operate on princibles laid out by tesla ..  but perhaps there many other ways ..

for the work i have done with the tpu .. i have found teslas kick to be the root of almost all electrical devices working beond the box of humans

ist

i have by no means tested all the methods .. but the ones i have each and everyone uses teslas kick .. including any tube driven units .. or switched units ..  and to be quite honest i bet tesla has tunned devices many never will see ..

the problem with sm 's method like you explained em ..  is  it can blow things up as tesla stated ..  a thunder storm .. and you may call a bolt !

: ) 

im simply working on simple devices with simple safe solutions that are fully duplicatable any where any time ..  and operate with out fail ..

i have achieved this .. and not even useing a battery nor a transistor   and if i got vaccume tube rectifiers .. i probally wont blow diodes .. : ) then lol

If Tesla is the Father of the TPU, then Daddy is gonna be really mad when he gets home, cause the boys are just wasting time arguing and this means they are not doing their works. Hmmmmmmmmm. Hope Tesla was not in favor of the strap. My elementary school principal was the best at that. Never fell for the fake crying act. Ouch. Ouch. Eech. Anyways this squabbling is so juvenile.

Someone started this thread and actually, re-looking at that Tesla patent and reading the description again, Tesla was actually worried and says so in this patent that people could die from using it. But I got a new clue to the TPU and for me that is worth more then anything. Notice the ground wire comes up and then connects to the secondary and also to the primary blotch wall.  Now why would he bias the blotch wall. Probably because the primary ends are to busy and to energized becoming polarities, the blotch wall is the weakest point in any coil that you can influence with an over coil or a bias.

@IST

It is not what you build but the madness around it that is hard to see through. But guys that know you realize your heart is in the right place but you can't blame us for thinking that at times your mind may be hovering in another dimension. Just be careful with all those ballasts. Question have you tried to pulse just one with dc square wave to see what it will do.  I mean those are specifically designed to be AC driven. Anyways be careful. Also them diodes have a high chance of frying, but maybe with all of them in parallel it will make a better effect.

@otto

Thanks for your posts. I get the message.

Geez another 2 AMer. Time to hit the hay. More like the couch at this hour, it is not a smart move to risk waking up my wife. lol

yes wattsup i have ..  i have scoped it too .. 

it is a lovely bunch of coconuts ..  lol   lol 

now if you force feed it ...  : ) anyhow   those diodes 1000v 3 amp each  120 diodes and there fast recovery rectifier diodes ..

if i had enough i would use microwave diodes .. and i take the hv  spikes and slam it to caps ...

the boost cap im useing can be filled from empty in seconds .. useing 1 of my coils .. the cap is 5800watts at 2.6vdc

i may take a flb and scope it today and produce a video .. just pulseing it by hand with 1.5vdc will WAKE YA UP ! 

IST!

As I said before, I am new to this forum. And, I am sorry about the non-sense argument going on. I was expecting a more professional behavior from you, members of this forum.

When I posted “Tesla is the father of the TPU” I did not mean Tesla invented the TPU. The message was that the TPU is a child of the Tesla work, or it is based on Tesla principles. Therefore, SM deserves all the credit. The TPU is novel and non obvious.

What I posted is just a concept, a proposed solution that makes sense based on my research. I was expecting that some members would go out searching for more related information and contribute toward a common goal â€" to help each other (this world). I was expecting more information, questions, etc. For instance, if there is a load current in the secondary, 1) will the associated magnetic field couple with the primary or middle solid wire? 2) Will the secondary heat up?

BTW, my answer to the questions above is, 1) there would be no magnetic coupling or magnetic influence coming from the secondary coil due to the fact that the magnetic field runs parallel to the primary (middle solid wire), and 2) once loaded, you can expect the secondary to heats up due to Joules losses.

I consider the basic to be the most important â€" treat each other with respect. It is an emotional common sense that some times does not make sense to us.

PS:
I am really disappointed! I was trying to withdraw my post but I did not know how to do it. This might be my last participation in this forum.

Quote from: bajac on April 28, 2010, 08:25:57 AM
As I said before, I am new to this forum. And, I am sorry about the non-sense argument going on. I was expecting a more professional behavior from you, members of this forum.

When I posted “Tesla is the father of the TPU” I did not mean Tesla invented the TPU. The message was that the TPU is a child of the Tesla work, or it is based on Tesla principles. Therefore, SM deserves all the credit. The TPU is novel and non obvious.

What I posted is just a concept, a proposed solution that makes sense based on my research. I was expecting that some members would go out searching for more related information and contribute toward a common goal â€" to help each other (this world). I was expecting more information, questions, etc. For instance, if there is a load current in the secondary, 1) will the associated magnetic field couple with the primary or middle solid wire? 2) Will the secondary heat up?

BTW, my answer to the questions above is, 1) there would be no magnetic coupling or magnetic influence coming from the secondary coil due to the fact that the magnetic field runs parallel to the primary (middle solid wire), and 2) once loaded, you can expect the secondary to heats up due to Joules losses.

I consider the basic to be the most important â€" treat each other with respect. It is an emotional common sense that some times does not make sense to us.

PS:
I am really disappointed! I was trying to withdraw my post but I did not know how to do it. This might be my last participation in this forum.

what is to be dissapointed  ?   i have given you more than you will eat or even dare to !

it is an inductive ballance .. then it is minipulated

take a high inductance coil and a low inductance coil hook it up as a single wire .. and open and close the loop watch the results ... add a neo gap and send it out to a coil transformer and step it down ...

the low inductance coil borrows engery the choke chokes down the cosumed engery you can dubble switch it should you choose ..  so smack it fast ...  the choke resists sudden change .. and the coil pukes !  or BACKFIRES ...

LOL


ist

there is a simpler way .. block it ! lol  diode bridge FORCE IT TO EXIT ALL SECONDARIES..

SO PLAINLY PUT YOU NEED A BLOCKER THAT CAN HANDLE ALL THE FLY BACK THEN SOME ...    and pulse it through the bridge ..  or block it at source and redirrect fly back via RECTIFIER ..  i have drawen all of this in the past moons ago ...   

i use caps as they take the high freqency much better than batteries ... then i switch it to PURE DC IN A FEW CAPS ... AND FEED IT TO BATTERIES AT 3 TO 10 TIMES THE SOURCE VOLTAGE ..

so in my dummy modle where all is super simple .. useing 2.6vdc as a source ...  i will actually charge batteries at 36 volts dc and 6 groups of 3 batteries .. or any combanation i choose ...

regards

I thought Marks stumbled across this while working on audio systems. If what he found is actually Tesla's or not, I really don't think it matters. I just want one in my house :)

I just wanted to refer you to the following article. I really enjoyed!

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/51-100/article87_body.html

@Loner
I am not sure if I understood your question. But, if no-load is connected, then, I do not expect any heat up of the secondary coil. If the TPU is heating up with no load, then, the primary coil is overheating. That would make sense with the proposed embodiment because the load on the primary circuit is practically a short circuit (one turn of solid wire). The design of the primary circuit is critical. I would say if the device is overheating at no load, it is more likely we are dealing with a design issue.

I respect other people explanation for explaining unknown energy phenomena by using earth magnetic fields, ether, zero point energy, etc. But, unless someone can explain them to me in way that makes sense, I cannot be a believer. Until now, the reasons for using the above concepts look more like a mathematical justification to a physical phenomenon that is not well understood. The problem I found with the above approach is that it might work on a mathematical model (on paper) but I found them useless for practical implementation.

Thanks and good luck with your experiments.

bajac

I refer you to this:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8185.msg239207#msg239207
It is the iron core posted above this.
This coil charges up with only the postive connected to the fet driver.
I have disconnected all instruments and the batteries. It is essentially one wire in the air. The iron core charges up ambiently to 125vdc after the bridge. If I connect an LED across it the LED pops.

They don't teach this school. I won't do the math.

I would like to add on the following:

It seems that you guys have been trying hard to build a working TPU prototype for some time without success, and I can feel your frustration in some writings.

I found it to be extremely naive to (blinding) believe any information assumed to be coming from SM. It just does not make sense for SM to provide any information related to the functioning and/or construction of the TPU that you can use to build a successful TPU prototype. And, any information coming from SM(?) should be suspicious of being misleading. It is my opinion that SM is not providing any information but the people keeping him under house arrest. I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!

When I saw some efforts to build a TPU with three coils and three frequencies and others with a reel type core, iron core, etc., I immediately knew it will never work. The problem is that the use of any coil based on standard electromagnetic application as found in today’s text books will just not work.

I just feel sorry when I read someone claiming to be close to having a working TPU prototype because he/she is getting and output of 10v, 100v, 100v, 10,000, etc. They all are meaningless data. Unless you can prove to have a power gain, you do not have a working TPU prototype.

One last important topic is about instrumentation. You have to be very careful when measuring RMS and AVERAGE values. I have witnessed so many current and voltage measurements that are very wrong. If it is not a sinusoidal waveform, just because the meter gives you a reading does not mean it is correct. If you have switching devices generating all kinds of non-sinusoidal waveforms, it is advisable to learn the testing equipment limitations by reading the user’s manual or by contacting the testing equipment manufacturer. In many instances, the only way to measure power is through a calorimeter or by using mathematical algorithm on the waveform of the voltage and/or current.

bajac

Hello all,

@bajac

for myself I can say that Im the last 3 years working on a TPU solution. I have spent ALL my free time ( I have a lot of free time!) on my TPU work and all I can say is that Im NOT frustrated. Others are maybe frustrated but not me.
In this time I have learned a lot about coils and people here.

About SM I dont want to wright because we have a "story" about him and I have accepted it because I dont know the real story about him, if there is a real, other story. And my "job" is only to figure out the secret sitting inside and outside a TPU.

I agree with you that with only 3 coils or with iron cores nothing happens. I also agree with you that kicks in the range of 10V - 100 000V gives nothing.

But it seems that you missed something: I HAVE power gain and what do I really have??

A PIECE OF SHIT!!

Power gain is NOT enough!!

You know why??

Im missing the main function of a TPU and that is the MAGIC!!

What means magic??

Ha,ha, I dont know because I have never seen it. Its just a feeling. Years ago I had a runaway. The kicks changed slowly into nice sine waves. Is this the magic? I dont know.

Otto

Quote from: otto on May 04, 2010, 03:58:09 AM
Hello all,

@bajac


I agree with you that with only 3 coils or with iron cores nothing happens. I also agree with you that kicks in the range of 10V - 100 000V gives nothing.

But it seems that you missed something: I HAVE power gain and what do I really have??

A PIECE OF SHIT!!


Otto

otto  i do dissagree ... 

with only 10 volts in spikes i have a self refilling cap ...

hummm

so my unit uses engery and returns MORE .. THAN CONSUMED  hence how it charges the cap while powering the unit 

ist

it runs with gain .. slowly so as it can be understood

Hello all,

sorry, I wasnt clear with my post:

I wanted to say that with only kicks a TPU cant work. In the last 3 years I have fired up my coils with kicks from 10V - 100kV. Result - No magic.

So, my conclusion is that we need something totally different to have a working TPU. Of course we need kicks and ......I dot know what.

Otto

it is time to ask the question ...  what is the gyro motion of a tpu .. ?

i have an answer .. and it does not have to spin to get this effect !

ist

@!,
You can fill caps with kicks. But the rotation is equivilant to motion. Kick the rotation as it comes around. In synch.

Lidmotor showed a regular coil spinning a neo magnetic inside the spool. It takes alot of current. But what if you hit it at the right time at lower current? This would make the horizontal windings the driver and the vertical windings the collector. I switched the aforementioned coil operation. Because if we are pumping the horizontal magnetic field around the ring and modulating the amplitude that activity would cut across the many wires of the vertical windings, what we call the control. And this would fit in with what Don Smith said about the 'Charge pumping' the power supply. This would also fit the model of DC with hash on it. This would also fit with the cannon ball posts. With a copper core we have an interface between the flux and the copper's internal electrons with no eddy current problems. Less resistance.

In reading about Townsend Brown and Evgeny Podkletnov they both said that when you hit what is in front of the anode with a hard pulse i.e. high voltage and 1 high frequency the interference is fierce and one is able move it. Said another way is you can push it. The frequency they used was 100khz to 1 mega hertz. That is a 555 to a fet. The Fet has a fast enough 'on' transistion time. Like smacking water too hard. It doesnt give way immediately but transmits the pressure (kinetic and audio) quite easily.

The TPU is sub energy wave behavior. The results look somewhat like Deyo's smoke demo showed but we use a toriodal magnetic field to present the medium of control or pathway.

Even though the fluctuations of the field extending radially are parallel with the vertical wires the pulsing actually flies perpendicular to those vertical windings.

The mobius wiring configuration of the GK4 that Otto posted actually interleaves the operation by alternating the vertically and the horizontal operation. That is why it spewed radially.

sure ..

there much simpler ways that work HAND IN HAND so to speak ..


ist

verry much how push and pull operates ..

1 switch

it ramps and amps non freq dependent !
if done properly you can have the MAGNET SWITCH KICK STARTER  to start the operation of it so in essance you swipe the magnet make a kick .. it goes to a cap .. this cap powers phase 1

ok  hope i havent lost anyone .. 

now  the magnet is THEN PROPERLY OREINTATED TO THE PROPER COIL.. and set there.. to serve as the hall effect amp ..  : )

and i will let your  mind wonder 

i have much better designs aswell

useing a super cap as the source .. you DO NOT NEED THE MAGNET SWITCH KICK STARTER ..  simply pre charge the cap .. then modulate output 1 2 1 2  1 is source feed back  2 is phase 2 supply

Quote from: giantkiller on May 04, 2010, 01:10:27 PM
@!,
You can fill caps with kicks. But the rotation is equivilant to motion. Kick the rotation as it comes around. In synch.

Lidmotor showed a regular coil spinning a neo magnetic inside the spool. It takes alot of current. But what if you hit it at the right time at lower current? This would make the horizontal windings the driver and the vertical windings the collector. I switched the aforementioned coil operation. Because if we are pumping the horizontal magnetic field around the ring and modulating the amplitude that activity would cut across the many wires of the vertical windings, what we call the control. And this would fit in with what Don Smith said about the 'Charge pumping' the power supply. This would also fit the model of DC with hash on it. This would also fit with the cannon ball posts. With a copper core we have an interface between the flux and the copper's internal electrons with no eddy current problems. Less resistance.

In reading about Townsend Brown and Evgeny Podkletnov they both said that when you hit what is in front of the anode with a hard pulse i.e. high voltage and 1 high frequency the interference is fierce and one is able move it. Said another way is you can push it. The frequency they used was 100khz to 1 mega hertz. That is a 555 to a fet. The Fet has a fast enough 'on' transistion time. Like smacking water too hard. It doesnt give way immediately but transmits the pressure (kinetic and audio) quite easily.

The TPU is sub energy wave behavior. The results look somewhat like Deyo's smoke demo showed but we use a toriodal magnetic field to present the medium of control or pathway.

Even though the fluctuations of the field extending radially are parallel with the vertical wires the pulsing actually flies perpendicular to those vertical windings.

The mobius wiring configuration of the GK4 that Otto posted actually interleaves the operation by alternating the vertically and the horizontal operation. That is why it spewed radially.

dude when modulating .. simply modulate the out put ..

need a video ? : )

i got 1 

2 freq modulation  by hand lol   

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5FmO55sBAU

so .. after viewing my video ..  you send the NORMAL jt SPIKES back to source to replinish .. the LARGE spikes you see are sent to phase 2


b4 you even ask there NO CAPS IN THAT SYSTEM... 
: )

i have seen flying feilds blow things .. it was not visual .. how ever   it was a 1/4 meggawatt diode ..  at a distance of 4 feet from my coil ...  hummmmmm

it pissed me off!  and i never picked up the damm thing agin ..

now i have a phase 2 system that runs with gain BIG TIME !

as well i have the video proof to back it up

regards !

it consumes micro amps .. at low volts returning much higher volts ..  in some cases 10 volts VHF  and i mean VHF..

now when taken to full 12vdc supply it consumes 3.1 miliamps  while returning 70 volts  AGIN VERRY HIGH FREQ ..

so  when i charge a 12vdc audio amp super cap of .5 f it runs this unit for close to  1 hour ..  the entire time putting out min 10 volts  if i turn the consumputin up to 40 ma at 12vdc im returned 600v spikes

agin   the same freq ..

ist

here is a video i speak of this coil ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OvNtS8kEjk

Quote from: otto on April 26, 2010, 01:28:26 AMHE said: control coils wound ALL OVER the collectors....but the ECD is a little bit different but still a good working TPU!! You love it or not, ha,ha.

4. why are you all the time talking about a high voltage? A lot of people are doing the same.

Once I was working with over 50kV, lighted a bulb but ....no magic.
I was curious yesterday and measured with my scope the voltage in my ECD: the biggest I measured was 700V and I lit a bulb without any problems but.....still no magic. But the voltage is a little bit high. I should reduce it to maybe 200V or less for a ECD. Of course this ...lets say 200V can also light my 100W bulb. Thats for sure.

Are you still using the setup that you described in the TPU_ECD-V1_0-de1_1.pdf file?

Hello all,

@maxiCOP

I have 3 coil sets, not to say TPUs: one is a 6" wound with the controls all over the collectors, one is a 6" ECD but connected in another way and one is a 15" with controls wound all over the collectors. The most time Im working with my ECD.

Im now building new oscillators because I need more stable signals and I want to use a battery for my oscillators.
The oscillators I used the last 3 years are OK but....I have to verify my results with new oscilators.

The next 3 weeks Im on a nice vacation.

Otto

Hello All,

I would like to refer to the following topics:

What frequency should be used?
I would recommend to start with a fundamental frequency having a wavelength equals to four times the length of the secondary conductor. This is a condition that Tesla recommended for his devices because the maximum voltage occurs at ¼ of the wavelength. At this point you will also obtain the maximum output power. On the contrary, the secondary voltage is expected to be zero if the wavelength of the fundamental frequency is twice the length of the secondary cable.


TPU Gyroscopic effect?

My best guess is that it is due to vibrations due to a bad design of the coils structural supports. The coils might be wound over a rubber like material with elastic properties. These materials will compress and expand under the magnetic and electrostatic pulsating forces of the primary and secondary coils, respectively. For example, the turns of the secondary coil will attract (get closer) when a load current is circulating in the secondary.

Bajac

PS:
The following link is an interesting article. What is your opinion of the “DC Anomalies”?
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml

Has someone tried the proposed TPU embodiment?