http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7NdxnjetSw
What a load of crap!
Tesla was nothing but a new frontier scientist and inventor without the true knowledge
of natures limitations. He was visionary in his mind but nothing was ever "overunity".
His visions is the reason of why people still believe he knew something extraordinary but
fact is that none of his stuff was remarkable in any way except for people of his time.
Excellent!
Quote from: FreeEnergy on June 30, 2010, 04:22:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7NdxnjetSw
The best things that make this reality have come from dreamers. Destruction comes from those who can not be thankful for someone elses efforts.
You are harnassing the environmental charge between the ionoshpere and ground.
This charge gets higer app. 100 volts per meter Direct Current.
Normally it is a rising potential which rises until a Ligtning Strike flashes, However, Beside the RF and magnetic pulses produced by Ligtning, the discharges tend to make the environmental charge fluctuate, and because of this it can induce currents in coils.
This is well documented in Tesla's Colorado Spring notes.
You would need to go verry high to get some real power and it is dangerous because you lower the resistance path which makes your reciver the preffered path for a discharge..
I do not see any Radiant Energy in this setup, It's all well known classical stuff
Look at what Mr. Herman Plauson did with his baloons high up in the sky.
Also Mr T.H Moray he was using a diffrent circuit and he managed to pull 50.000 Watts of power from a diffrent source.
Tesla did use a comparable set up to power his pierce arrow but that was a diffrent story then what you are showing in your video, and that is Tesla's REAL secret.
There are several others that made inventions to tap into the same source, which is Not the environmental charge.
These mentioned circuits all use one or more modified vacuum tubes ,and Mr. E.V Gray used the crudest methode that i know of to generate the same efect in open air.
So in essence, i do not see any secrets in your video.
Quote from: FatChance!!! on June 30, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
What a load of crap!
Tesla was nothing but a new frontier scientist and inventor without the true knowledge
of natures limitations. He was visionary in his mind but nothing was ever "overunity".
His visions is the reason of why people still believe he knew something extraordinary but
fact is that none of his stuff was remarkable in any way except for people of his time.
One would have to travel for forty days and forty nights to find a level of ignorance equal to this.
Can I get an 'AMEN' on this?
Quote from: Paul-R on July 01, 2010, 10:27:58 AM
One would have to travel for forty days and forty nights to find a level of ignorance equal to this.
this is a video i found on youtube and thought i would share here with the community.
now what i would like to see is someone replicate this guy's schematic in real life.
Why don't you try it yourself?
Don't you think this has been build over and over again in the past?
This is about the first thing people build when they get intrested in free energy and all of it's glitter and glamour.
Usually somebody starts by hooking up a wire to a water pipe or ground connection, then connects this to a coil and the other end goes to a long wire serving as antenna.
If you add two more elements to this circuit you have what is known as a crystal radio.
In that case a diode and a earphone needs to be added.
Like i said, this is all well known stuff, and there are no secrets.
How many times do i need to repeat myself?
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this is a video i found on youtube and thought i would A here with the community.
now what i would like to see is someone replicate this guy's schematic in real life.
I think the schematic has the secondary and the primary interchanged.
The primary is the smaller one and the secondary the bigger one.
It is just a normal tesla coil.
Jesus
Quote from: Paul-R on July 01, 2010, 10:27:58 AM
One would have to travel for forty days and forty nights to find a level of ignorance equal to this.
If you think I'm wrong then explain to me what differs him from being a regular inventor/scientist in his field of interest?
We all know he was visionary and perhaps a bit crazy and he invented several things being in used today, E.g AC Voltage.
Besides some good inventions he was a regular guy. But today's high standards of progress would get him nowhere.....
Quote from: FatChance!!! on July 02, 2010, 02:36:18 AM
If you think I'm wrong then explain to me what differs him from being a regular inventor/scientist in his field of interest?
We all know he was visionary and perhaps a bit crazy and he invented several things being in used today, E.g AC Voltage.
Besides some good inventions he was a regular guy. But today's high standards of progress would get him nowhere.....
Tesla's visionary abilities and the results gained from it were far and above all other inventors. Placed in the context of today's standards, who would compare with his abilities?
Quote from: metatorian on July 02, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
Tesla's visionary abilities and the results gained from it were far and above all other inventors.
I disagree.
There were and are many,many great man.
Can we please stay ontopic?
Quote from: metatorian on July 02, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
Tesla's visionary abilities and the results gained from it were far and above all other inventors. Placed in the context of today's standards, who would compare with his abilities?
I don't want or intend to diminish Tesla world changing inventions.
But it's easier to discover the basics of electricity if your the first one to do it.
What I don't like is when people try to mystify Tesla and his work.
There is nothing mysterious or hidden what so ever, and it has never been the case.
Everything Tesla accomplished is well understood and used in everyday life.
But the visionary inventions he failed to get working was simply due to him
not knowing the true nature of electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental
interactions of nature, along with strong interaction, weak interaction and gravitation.
So, all of you crackpots out there, stop accentuate Tesla as "secret and mysterious".
Yes, he was inventive and visionary, but yet a regular guy with an exiting life in an innocent time.
If you wonder whom is Tesla's match today...just take any well educated physics professor.
But the problem is that all basics is already discovered. The new frontier is Quantum Physics.
And this scientific field of is way out of Tesla's abilities. Take it like a man and don't cry....
Tesla's little secret is the topic ... and it most definitely is "not" well understood. Read Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity by Peter Lindemann for more.
So far no names in competition with Tesla's stature today,
but I would suggest Wooten and Mclain's work with the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier holds some secrets that no one understands very well either, and they also hold Tesla in high regard. ;)
Please explain 'P2' then.
You see flat picture but that is not the configuration.
Then read TTBrown, Moray, and cosmic lattice.
Damn, I just gave away the answer. But it does save time. Let's skip trying to understand the status quo and move into higher aspects. This should separate the wheat from the chaff.
Quote from: giantkiller on July 02, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Please explain 'P2' then.
You see flat picture but that is not the configuration.
Then read TTBrown, Moray, and cosmic lattice.
Damn, I just gave away the answer. But it does save time. Let's skip trying to understand the status quo and move into higher aspects. This should separate the wheat from the chaff.
oops! you're quick giantkiller! :D
Quote from: metatorian on July 02, 2010, 12:56:41 PM
Tesla's little secret is the topic ... and it most definitely is "not" well understood. Read Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity by Peter Lindemann for more.
So far no names in competition with Tesla's stature today,
but I would suggest Wooten and Mclain's work with the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier holds some secrets that no one understands very well either, and they also hold Tesla in high regard. ;)
From this post i can make up where you are in the journey...
I did read Mr Lindemann's book many years ago and found it to be useless.
In fact, i have never seen Mr Lindemann finish anything.
The only thing he does is write useless books and talk about how he thinks it works so you get the impression he must be a brilliant man.
Wooten and Mclain's would be the last people i want to place next to Tesla.
They did a nice job but they also never finished it.
As you can see we have plenty of unfinished work.
Tesla's little secret is the topic ... but the schematic shown is not.
And this is well known, pherhaps not by you but i assure you others do.
So we either switch to the real secret, or we have another useless discussion.
If it was for the real secret i would be happy to do some real demonstrations.
Quote from: giantkiller on July 02, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
Then read TTBrown, Moray, and cosmic lattice.
Damn, I just gave away the answer.
No Sir, you just think you did, but you didn't. :)
You just added some words to the soup, that's all.
This stuff is interesting..those diagrams remind me somewhat of Tesla's hairpin circuit. Did we ever figure out anything about what he meant with 3,6,9?
Hello XS-NRG , If the secret is so well known, then please pardon my ignorance. Who knows then? ... Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, physicist Paul LaViolette? Perhaps Greg Hodowanec had some useful clues about the "cosmic lattice" in helping to complete the MRA. Lindemann's work contains many vital quotes from Tesla's work that many have yet to discover. What "real demonstrations" do you propose regarding the "real secret"? :-\
Who? the people that are further down the free energy road...
And i do not like free energy or overunity, that is why i go with exess energy.
Were you able to construct a working model out of the Lindamann book?
This schematic has got nothing to do with the principle of Antigravity Propulsion and it has no secrets.
Pherhaps it can be used to generate the voltage needed for Antigravity Propulsion but then it merely serves as power supply.
Tesla did leave some secrets but this schematic simply isn't one of them, as the topic opener sugests.
Year: 1879 Thomas Alva Edison burns the first electric light bulb.
Year: 1906 Lee de Forest invents the Audion/Triode by modifying Thomas Alva Edison’s lightbulb.
Year: 1931 Nikola Tesla modified some beam triode tubes and drives a 1931 Pierce Arrow with electric motor without fuel.
That is Tesla's REAL secret, what did he do to those tubes that they could be used to power that car?
But not to forget:
Year: 1927 Thomas Henry Moray invents the "Moray Valve".
Year: 1928 Nathan Stubblefield taps the "ocean of electricity".
Year: 1958 Edwin Vincent Gray invents the "Gray tube" or "Cset" (Conversion Switching Element Tube)‎.
Year: 1974 Professor Aleksandr Chernetskii invents "Plasmatron".
Year: 1995 Dr. Paulo Correa and Alexandra Correa invent "PAGD Tube".
As you can see, many people did alot of work.
If you follow it down the line it can become quite clear to you and you might find connections.
And these along with the skills you develope can help you further.
Offcource you cannot compare all that to somebody posting a circuit he found asking others to try it calling it a secret..........
I am starting to see where the excess energy is going.
Quote from: giantkiller on July 02, 2010, 08:02:07 PM
I am starting to see where the excess energy is going.
...good one giantkiller ... :D I've often wondered about TT Brown's parabolic shaped capacitor as a "collector" rather than for propulsive capacitive discharge; and combined with the circuit somewhere on this site, if I recall correctly, an analysis of one of Tesla's patents, thought to be also related to his electric car secret, which the "little secret" is perhaps a roughly oversimplified version?
The tesla receiver worked just like the utube showed. The tesla transmitter worked just like the utube showed. No secret. The 50volts per meter is the drop across a very high resistor. Tesla was trying to create a closed circuit between receiver and transmitter with a capacitve coupling though the air and a current through the receiver and Earth. A transmitter as we know it does this but only in the near field of the antennae. The ariel acts as a plate of a capaitor and the Earth or base load the other. The current from the transmitter charges the capacitor and whatever information flows between plates of a capacitor being charged is inititated. A current. This current then displaces the magnetic field. This displaced magnetic field causes the lines of force to change in conductors for miles around with the intensity decreasing as the cube of the radius from the capacitor plate. The capacitor plate formed by the antennae is tiny. The electric field polarization it creates is tiny. The displacement current is tiny. The power transmitted from transmitter to receiver is tiny. Tesla was doing something different with Wardenclyffe. I believe he was going to create standing waves that moved. The ground terminal would see a changing electrical charge depending on if a node or antinode was passing by. This would all be relavent to the scalar field produced by his top capacitance. That top capacitance is the problem. The charge densisty on that top load would have had to be unbelivably high even if the wave amplitudes were extremely high. The ground resistance to flow of current from node to antinode would limit the amplitude of the waves otherwise Tesla would have just been heating up the Earth with RF. Another problem would be distance of the receivers from the transmitter. Receivers close to the transmitter would see large voltage while ones located farther away would see a smaller one. I really dont think Tesla was planning on just anybody sinking an antennae and getting free energy anyway. The system was devised to transmit power from one power plant to another then distributed locally using conventional grids. The idea was to create a global power system. So that a scource of what he called motive energy could power places where there wasnt a hydroelectric dam or a windmill or a solar farm or an otec plant or a geothermal scource. The conversion of Earth to hydrogen fuel was never invisioned by Tesla.
Tesla did believe he discoverd some sort of faster then the speed of light Solar emission. Em waves of course have a speed limit as by its very nature a wave is frequency dependent. Mass as it approaches the speed of light needs infinitely more force to reach a higher velocity. Funny thing is as one approaches the surface of a proton the electrical charge gets infinitely greater.
This leads one to believe that in all that is going on in the Sun there is a great probablity that superluminol collisions occur between electrons and protons in the plasmasphere. What sort of particles would result from such a collision and how fast and how far can they travel before they loose a very large amount of kinetic energy.
;D
hi everyone good day its a nice topic.
all i can say is that tesla's work are the superior of them all.
his latest discovery in capacitor makes a brilliant difference in energy.
i think before we degrade tesla, we should make more deep research first of him why his later experiment are being suppressed.
every working brilliant device today are just an innovation and just a fruit of tesla's works. ;D
Tesla spent thousands of dollars at wardenclif just to produce very tiny energy from a distance, but! is that really his plan? of course no! because he knows how to make tiny energy into a huge energy! and that is the true reason ok!
His use of resonance is no secret. Clearly shown in patents and explained. The currents in a resonant circuit between inductor and capacitor can easily surpass the input currrents. This principle is used to tune in a station. The minute currents generated in an antennae fed into a resonant circuit where the power builds up OVER TIME. This allows the capture of the antennae which will be of microwatts to produce a larger amount of current in the signal detector tank circuit. The small changes in amplitude of the carrier wave is the desired information to be conveyed not the highfrequency oscillations established in the tuner. The entire tank is coupled to the amplifier section either by the voltage developed on the capacitor or magnetically through the inductor core, There the oscillations developed by the tuner stage are systematically removed by the amplifier section so as not to appear as distortion in the audio circuitry.
A big what if in my mind is what if Tesla tuned into a natural scource of radio waves when driving the secretive pierce arrow. The wave capture driving a tuned circuit. As the voltage on the capacitor of the tuner reached a predetermined level the capacitor is shorted through a load circuit. The highfrequency input ringing up a tuner then a low frequency event pulling the tank to it's knees. This would be analogous to pushing a child on a swing. You always make sure no one walks in the path of the swing. Otherwise your little pushes become manifest in one very powerful collision.
Tesla was NOT a regular guy and anyone who read his (auto)biography would know that. He possessed certain abilities that regular guys and gals do not, neither 100 years ago nor today.
There's absolutely no way to understand or *know* what and how Tesla was thinking, or what he was seeing with his eyes or in his mind.
Saying: "Everything Tesla accomplished is well understood and used in everyday life." is bunch of bollocks. If that's true, why is that only Eric Dollard was able to clearly demonstrate some of the things Tesla did, and formulate theoretical explanation for all that, and nobody else.
There's nothing secretive and mysterious about Tesla. It's simply that nobody really knows for sure what the guy had in mind as he was way ahead of everyone, of his time, and ours as well.
Quote from: amigo on July 05, 2010, 10:14:23 PM
Saying: "Everything Tesla accomplished is well understood and used in everyday life." is bunch of bollocks.
In case this was directed at me, i don't think so but,
I am only talking about the schematic on previous page and it is well understood.
One of Tesla's accomplishments was remote control that used rf. He made the first rc boat and demonstrated it at a World's Fair while Marconi was fucking around with sparking telegraph keys. Tesla also realized something that alot of us seem to forget. Blackbody radiation. We see the light we feel the infrared but drop down the temperature scale and you have to use longer wavelength receivers to experience mass in motion. Radio telescopes can see hydroxl molecules vibrate light years from Earth in interstellar gases. The entire cosmos radiates in the gigahertz band. Inadvertently discovered by bell labs pioneers in microwave technology Ya right Tesla was listening to planets move through the cosmic background radiation while the rest of the circus crowd was building big boats that went fast because slaves were shovelling black stuff in a firebox. The circus continues. In ring one we have solar collectors, in ring two we have windmills, and the good old standby light a fire still the main act. Burn everything in sight. Stop growing food and go for that biodiesel crop. Drill through to the mantle of the Earth to get something to radiate in the preferred portion of the electromagnetic spectrum because well thats what grandaddy did to get rich. Not to mention radioactivity. Somebody figures out mathmatically the weight of individual particles is less than the weight of said particles when clumped together and goes about shooting small particles into the bigger ones. You shoot a pin into a balloon it pops. It is loud and everybody gets excited. The balloon when it is lieing on the floor doesnt weigh as much as when it was filled with air. It's not complicated its obvious. Tesla was not ahead of his time he was allowed to create. He maintained a free and open mind.