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I find a video to explain Stanley Meyer's secret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su_5_-IOoXM

Looks interesting.

Holy Hyperbolic Bull$hit Batman.
(Translation: These is no usable data in that...)

The over the top "Excorcist" style music was painful too.

Not focus the music. Focus the the idea.

Gentlemen, these are allegedly never seen before videos, if anyone cares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-FgsE7s4YY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeQV153GPo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x90XqjIK6g

look at jean marc moreau patent

http://www.scribd.com/doc/76027108 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/76027108)

this attesting the working motor

http://freenrg.info/Hydrogen/MIG_675/JM_MOREAU_FR2906264A1.pdf (http://freenrg.info/Hydrogen/MIG_675/JM_MOREAU_FR2906264A1.pdf)

the history in french

http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=914#p914 (http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=914#p914)

 
you can see it ( for real in france - britany )

QuoteMIG 675 hydrogene autonome - 250 000 â,¬
Visible sur Bretagne - Finistère | Coque LUXURY - 2011 | Moteur mercruiser modifié par LUXURY - 2011

Bateau en aluminium d une grande résistance et d une légeretée incomparable, ajoutant à ceci une motorisation révolutionaire autonome de 500 CV, fonctionnant à l hydrogène avec une alimentation direct sur l eau de mer piloté par un automate industriel haute résistance une commande tactile pour controler tous ses équipements.

Longueur : 6,75 m
Largeur : 2,5 m
Poids : 1300 Kg
Motorisation :
350 MAG supercharged , générateur hydrogène autonome 500CV.
Vitesse Max : 70 noeuds
Vitesse Croisière : 45 noeuds
Cabine : 3 personnes
Bain de soleil

Équipements de série : Davier électrique, lève panneaux électrique, flapps,sondeur GPS humminbird 997 C, écran tactile 10", ensemble audio alpine, bar réfrigéré avec table rétractable électrique, douchette, Toilette amovible, démarrage start and stop, éclairage et feux de navigation full led, peinture au choix, intérieur cuir, coffre et bar de ski, plancher teck, bain de soleil, remorque, listons aluminium avec led.

you can buy one of these boats :

http://www.esprit-mer.com/yachts_neufs.htm (http://www.esprit-mer.com/yachts_neufs.htm)

the first product in the word

Quote

Le 1^er Electrolyseur embarqué Haut Débit, sur le Marché Mondial

"Ainsi, si aujourd'hui j'affirme que ce produit est le premier électrolyseur commercial au monde, sécurisé et asservi, produisant 30 litres par heure de gaz sur une voiture, en utilisant la plus faible quantité d'énergie prélevée, ce qui est un critère essentiel, c'est que ceci peut aujourd'hui même être démontré en laboratoire, devant toute personne s'intéressant à ce sujet (Sur rendez-vous tout de même)."
Ecrire par MAIL à l’adresse suivante :  jmm.moreau@laposte.net

That boat selling site is claiming to power those boats on "HHO" on demand!

Without external charging, using the seawater.

Intresting, trying to find more about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5RftSh4AU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5RftSh4AU)

Quote from: Cherryman on December 19, 2011, 04:43:26 AM
That boat selling site is claiming to power those boats on "HHO" on demand!

Without external charging, using the seawater.

Intresting, trying to find more about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5RftSh4AU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5RftSh4AU)

the inventor of this motor is jean marc moreau ( 2005 )

 FATHER OF WATER POWER CAR - Stanley Meyer's CIRCUIT PDFS
:)

Have a Nice Day

More Docs Have a Great Week
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Re sharing from Russ and Alex Hope you will pass it forward to uni and schools and people working on the tech

DD :)

Re sharing from Russ and Alex Hope you will pass it forward to uni and schools and people working on the tech
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DD ;) :D ;D

Re sharing from Russ and Alex Hope you will pass it forward to uni and schools and people working on the tech
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DD  :o ;D ;D >:(

But without a semiconductor diode in the cell circuit, no way? :)

Vic Matrix Board from Gas Management system Stanley Meyer

this is work in progress v5

DB 37 Digital control Means GMS MAtrix K11

Gerber

main original board k11 for matrix and also new modern daughter  board tps interlace
convert from electronic tps sensor or accelerator pedal

read more

https://www.hot-rod-usa.com/copy-of-h2-training-guide-1

Safety Card Jumper Stanley A Meyer GMS Matrix

DD

power control card gms matrix

Gerber

Stanley A Meyer Analog voltage control board controls voltage levels to the vic

vix the gms vic matrix using db 37 connectors

gerber attached

REMEMBER TO VISIT HERE  https://www.hot-rod-usa.com/copy-of-h2-training-guide-1

AND REMEMBER TO SHARE AND TEACH and Support Secure Supplies

DD :)

LOOK CAREFULLY ABOVE for the

GERBER ZIP 

LINK in each post
AND DOWNLOAD THE GERBERS AND RE SHARE
TO HOME BUILDERS SCHOOLS AND FORUMS

"THE GOOD PEOPLE WILL BRING IN THE TECHNOLOGY"
STANLEY A MEYER

8) :)

JUST RESIZING.

Well, at least someone undertook to do the classics.
And not make your own way. not the fact that it is correct.
respect.

Stanley A Meyer K2 GMS Veritable Pulse Frequency Generator Vic MAtrix

gerber

DD   :) :) :)

main board

https://www.bitchute.com/video/D4Gni79NF6v7/

notes for db 9 connector from main board vic gms matrix to vic transformers

circuit k3

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gerber v6 main board gms  stanley a meyer

les banki auto start  db 37

 stanley meyer main board gms v6  pictures

Les Banki Auto Start Original

GERBER

Generator Jet  Boiler Burner auto-start circuit description.

This design is for electric start generators which are supplied with remote controls.

(Note: It could also be used with electric start generators WITHOUT remote control BUT would need additional, rather complex circuitry.)

The idea is simple:
When the preset gas pressure is reached, the generator (engine) starts automatically.

Since all the electronic engine management control facilities in this design are already in place, this optional circuit which performs the auto-start function is very simple indeed!

Operating conditions are as follows:

After powering up the entire system, gas (HYDROXY) pressure rises.
When it reaches the pre-set limit, the pressure regulator circuit generates a control pulse.
The VERY FIRST pulse will SET the LATCH.
Its output goes HIGH and remains HIGH.
(Until power is turned OFF.  At power-up, everything is RE-SET.)

Now, the LATCH ignores ALL further control pulses.
As its output is DC coupled to the 'Clock' input of the ONE-SHOT, a SINGLE pulse with a set time constant is generated.

For the duration of the pulse, a MOSFET (which drives a relay) is turned ON.
The relay contacts are wired across the remote control's ON-button.
(Pulse duration depends on the time required by the remote control to start the engine.)

The circuit is based on a 4013 dual D-type F/F (Flip-Flop).
The first section is a LATCH and the second is used as a ONE-SHOT pulse generator which drives a MOSFET & relay.

It works as follows:

At power-on, LATCH IC1A is RESET by C2 (0.1u) & R3 (1M) and the ONE-SHOT (IC1B) is RESET by C3 (220n) & R5 (8M2).

When power is applied to the electrolyzer, gas pressure starts to build up.
As it reaches the pre-set pressure level for the first time, a positive control pulse is generated by the pressure regulator circuit.
(The design provides both positive and negative going control pulses.)

The very first control pulse (applied to pin 6) SETs the LATCH IC1A.

(Once the LATCH is SET, all subsequent control pulses are ignored.)

The output (pin 1) of the LATCH (IC1A) is DC coupled to the 'Clock' input (pin 11) of ONE-SHOT IC1B.
Before the first clock pulse arrives at its clock input, its Q output (pin 13) is LOW.
As resistor R5 (8M2) is connected between its Q output and RESET, its RESET input (pin10) is also LOW.
Since its D (Data) input (pin 9) is connected to the + supply rail, its output goes HIGH during the positive going transition of the pulse to its clock input (pin 11).

The output of ONE-SHOT (IC1B) is now HIGH while its RESET input (pin 10) is still LOW, current starts to flow from the HIGH output, through R5 (8M2), to the RESET input.

When the voltage reaches the RESET threshold, the ONE-SHOT RESETS (its output snaps LOW) and its pulse is terminated.

The entire cycle just described is a strictly ONCE ONLY event!

Only when the generator is stopped and re-started can the above cycle be repeated.

The circuit can be turned OFF or ON in order to select MANUAL or AUTO-START.

Here is a simple method of testing this 'autostart' circuit for correct operation:

Apply power to it.  (12V)
The indicator LED must remain OFF.
Attach a wire to CN3/TP2 and briefly touch the other end of this wire to TP1 (+12V).
The LED will turn ON for about 1-2 seconds.  (then OFF and remain OFF)
Repeatedly touch the wire to TP1.
The LED should NOT come on, no matter how many times the wire is connected to TP1.

Now remove the power (12V) from the module, wait 10-15 seconds (a deliberate delay built in to this circuit) and repeat the process described above.
Note:  if you don't wait long enough (10-15 seconds), it will NOT work again.

The effect of this delay is that once the generator is stopped (which means no power to operate the electronics), the 'autostart' function will not operate for the next 10-15 seconds, even if power is restored immediately!

Les Banki
(Electronic Design Engineer)
https://www.hot-rod-usa.com/copy-of-h2-training-guide-1

Here is the 2020 version with db 37 and  better labeling for implementation

Gerber and bom Attached

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ID   Name   Designator   Footprint   Quantity
1   C1   100UF 25V   CAP-8*5   1
2   C2   0.1UF   CERAMIC   3
3   C3   220NF   CERAMIC   1
4   R1   3.3K   AXIAL-0.4   1
5   R2   1K   AXIAL-0.4   1
6   R3   8M2   AXIAL-0.4   1
7   R4   1M   AXIAL-0.4   1
8   R5   100K   AXIAL-0.4   2
9   R6   10K   AXIAL-0.4   1
10   IC1   4013   DIP-14   1
11   D1   1N4007   DO-41   1
12   Q1   2N7000   TO92 CBE   1
13   LED         1
14   P-12 PCB RELAY         1
15   DB-37 RIGHT-ANGLED CONNECTOR         1
16      Pressure switch 4 bar 60 psi 2 wire   https://www.turck.de   1
17      Pressure switch 6 bar 90 psi 2 wire   https://www.turck.de/attachment/d101929.pdf   1
18            
            

 Hello Securesupplies,
Thank you for sharing all these designs.
I am wondering, did you manage replicate complete system ? I mean run car or some engine on water ? How efficient it is ?
Thanks,
-V.

the Pressure Regulator Circuit controls the  skew scale of up and down of gas production against fuel line pressure
here is the gerber

Dd

3 wire sensor different from auto start which is 2 wire

ID   Name   Designator   Footprint   Quantity   Manufacturer Part
1   P1   20K   TRIMMER   2   
2   R1   6.8K   AXIAL-0.4   1   
3   R2   2.2K   AXIAL-0.4   3   
4   R3   51K   AXIAL-0.4   1   
5   R4   39K   AXIAL-0.4   1   
6   R5   5K1   AXIAL-0.4   1   
7   R6   10K   AXIAL-0.4   1   
8   R7   100K   AXIAL-0.4   2   
9   R8   3K3   AXIAL-0.4   1   
10   LED1   LED   5MM   1   
11   C1   0.1UF   DO-41   6   
12   IC1   LM324   DIP-14   1   
13   P2   10K    PRESET   1   
14   D1   4148   DIODE   1   
15   Q1   BC547   DO-41   2   
16   DB-37 RIGHT-ANGLED CONNECTOR         1   
17      MPX5500DP   SENSOR-TH_MPX5500DP   1   
               

Vic 5 driver

Attached

gerber vic  5 

 attached vic 5 schematic

amd tesla  lmd

Gas Feedback DB 37 Version 1 Stanley Meyer GMS
GERBER ATTACHED

Has anyone verified this yet?
videos?

Stanley A Meyer Vic GMS Gas management Matrix Series 10
this version has the extended tps traces into ecu and the water auto fill level traces
also extended the voltage through the db9's and injector pwm
Design to work with Hydruino ECU and EMS Solutions

some more fine tuning to lay out and labels occurring

this is designed to be a easy to read and training tool to work with Modern PDM's
dd :) 

Gerber attached

Stanley 9 Tube Cell

Stanley Meyer 11 cell WFC

Drawings  Rather Rare  :)

 :)

Listen, do not try and post on my channel on You Tube again as you got blocked many years back as I told you back then I will not allow you to get into this technology based on your outright theft of many videos trying to sell your wares and I meant it, okay? You made the wrong person mad as I don't forget and just so happens to be the one that finally got at the science behind the technology. Sorry, but if it's up to me you will always be locked out of this technology as long as I live as you would wreck everything I, and many others, have striven for years to get this technology out to those that need this technology the most without the greed of industry.


Sorry Daniel but I made up my mind about you many years ago and it really hasn't changed since then as your actions have also remained the same and we are to judge a man by their actions are we not?

All look there is the Mr No Bubbles Troll , 
Action Talks B___ S__walks either put up some quality content for Forum to enjoy building or replicating
or shut up you looser go post  on your own greasy hands thread

no one waits for you Troll boy , i think you  sniffed too much of that transformer oil buddy
it is effecting your touch with the  reality out side of your bedroom. 

Stanley A Meyer Tech is Open source free to world all patents have expired
all have been rebuilt made proven and shared.

only thing you have is your long high voltage tool in your hand , but actually i think it may take you 2 hands LOL
put some transformer oil on it to stop the burning feeling

I wish you well in your Day Dreams and self indulgence fantasies of having conversation with imaginary people? .

Troll on buddy 
just cry on, Keep having imaginary conversations in the mirror as you cry ,

Does any one else see this troll is having a imaginary conversation?
Are you trying to give your self some thing to do between troll spam posts trying to hide the truth?

In case it is not clear To me you you a JUST A GOVERNMENT TROLL will Transformer oil on both
his hands talking to himself in the mirror and having one sided imaginary conversations,
time to change medication Buddy. 

Maybe do not mix the oil with the tablets check the label or wash ya hands first.

Crazy TrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTroll

Stanley A Meyer Suitable  DB 37 Auto Refill And Auto Start Circuit

Open source dose not require debates or justifications

DD

Stan Meyer Main Board GMS Matrix BOM

ID   Name   Designator   Footprint   Quantity
1   FUSE         2
2   BRIDGE RECTIFIRE         1
3   C1   1000UF 25V   CAP-D16.0XF7.5   3
4   U1   7812   TO-220(TO-220-3)   1
5   U2   7810   TO-220(TO-220-3)   1
6   U3   7805   TO-220(TO-220-3)   1
7   CONNECTOR   2P CONN.   2P SCREW CONNECTOR   64
8   DB37          8
9   DB9         2
            

Gas Pressure control card made by Les Banki Modified to suit Stanley A Meyer Mainboard Matrix with db 37 pins


OPEN SOURCE GERBER ATTACHED

Quote from: securesupplies on September 03, 2020, 12:22:07 AM
All look there is the Mr No Bubbles Troll , 
Action Talks B___ S__walks either put up some quality content for Forum to enjoy building or replicating
or shut up you looser go post  on your own greasy hands thread

no one waits for you Troll boy , i think you  sniffed too much of that transformer oil buddy
it is effecting your touch with the  reality out side of your bedroom. 

Stanley A Meyer Tech is Open source free to world all patents have expired
all have been rebuilt made proven and shared.

only thing you have is your long high voltage tool in your hand , but actually i think it may take you 2 hands LOL
put some transformer oil on it to stop the burning feeling

I wish you well in your Day Dreams and self indulgence fantasies of having conversation with imaginary people? .

Troll on buddy 
just cry on, Keep having imaginary conversations in the mirror as you cry ,

Does any one else see this troll is having a imaginary conversation?
Are you trying to give your self some thing to do between troll spam posts trying to hide the truth?

In case it is not clear To me you you a JUST A GOVERNMENT TROLL will Transformer oil on both
his hands talking to himself in the mirror and having one sided imaginary conversations,
time to change medication Buddy. 

Maybe do not mix the oil with the tablets check the label or wash ya hands first.

Crazy TrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTrollTroll

So you hijacked a thread where the original owner seems to have died being the last time he/she posted was in July 25, 2010 good for you you scavenger. But honestly don't try to post your crap on any of my videos again on YouTube, okay? I don't want them there as you are all greed through and through 100% Pure Capitalist capable of eating his own young if a profit could be made from doing so.


All of us on this forum, and many others, already see and know what you are about but I guess you find enough suckers from time to time to keep you at it as you steal from them, huh? It's okay I guess as a man has a right to earn a living doing something, huh? I just wish you would have chosen a different technology and not totally messed up this one in the public's view.


But note who is the real "TROLL" as this is you attempting to post your crap site on my video is it not?

Add RF Remote start and auto and auto fill with oled gauge with db37 to slot in main board  matric stan meyer
:) will post gerber soo and code for the ardunio mini the oled is 1.5 inch color by 1.5 inch

rf remot that matches

one of the many sensor options, we know we have wet environment , high pressures environment and also high voltage environment , we just show this example for some people to see the general idea if using this version

galvanic may caused issues with high voltage float switch ok buy low tech ir ok but not so precise

So you hijacked a thread where the original owner seems to have died being the last time he/she posted was in July 25, 2010 good for you you scavenger😠. But honestly don't try to post your crap on any of my videos again on YouTube, okay? I don't want them there as you are all greed through and through 100% Pure Capitalist capable of eating his own young if a profit could be made from doing so.


All of us on this forum, and many others, already see and know what you are about but I guess you find enough suckers from time to time to keep you at it as you steal from them, huh? It's okay I guess as a man has a right to earn a living doing something, huh? I just wish you would have chosen a different technology and not totally messed up this one in the public's view.


But note who is the real "TROLL" as this is you attempting to post your crap site on my video is it not?
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It would be nice if you could post everything a little bit sorted and structured, this way its total chaotic. And is the stuff working or is it some prototype crap which has no use anyways?

@h2Opower  why are you flaming him that he is a capitalist when you are hiding a technology which could change the world to a better place? At least you say that you have it working...

Found this water proof sensor

DD :)  Part number Jsn-sr04t

88

Quote from: 88er on September 05, 2020, 12:55:19 AM
It would be nice if you could post everything a little bit sorted and structured, this way its total chaotic. And is the stuff working or is it some prototype crap which has no use anyways?

@h2Opower  why are you flaming him that he is a capitalist when you are hiding a technology which could change the world to a better place? At least you say that you have it working...

So, I take it you want to know the history between Daniel Donetelli and me, correct? Long ago we were talking about this technology and I wanted him to stop stealing my work claiming it as his own and scamming people out of their hard earned money.
You see this photo of my 10 resonant cavity WFC? Daniel had this photo up on his site for sale having never spoken to me the one who was actually making this WFC. So, if people paid for this WFC on his site what would they get in the mail as it wouldn't be anything from me so what would they have actually gotten? The cost was $1000 USD. He did this to others as well, not just me, in taking their photos from the web posting it on his site for sale not having ever spoken with those whom were making the product, and I say again, what would those people whom paid for the item they saw on his site would have actually gotten?


As for being a Capitalist I too was raised in a capitalist system but I represent a fair and honest business man and Daniel represents the worst of the worst type of business man in that all he wants is for people to transfer money from their accounts into his account and give them nothing in return. As yes, I intend on making money with this technology but that is only so because it must be made safely and cost effective and the only way to do that is to actually care about people and go into mass production with this technology.


As for how I put this technology out on my thread I put it out as I learned it in real time. And yes I am holding some of the things I learned about this technology back from everyone I will openly admit that but the reasons why is are simple ones. This technology isn't easy to build and make use of thus the vast majority of people in this world given complete instructions on how to build this technology correctly wouldn't be able to let alone implement it into their daily lives. So, someone like me has to step up to the plate and build it for them in a way that makes the technology safe for use at a fair market price. As surely you don't expect Grandpa or Grandma to convert an engine to use this technology on their own do you? What about children, people with disabilities, and the mentally challenged don't they deserve this technology too? Who is going to make it safe and easy for them to use it, complete with installers and maintenance folks to do the work these folks can't do on their own? You see I don't think in small terms as you are doing right now, I look at the big picture.


Daniel Donetelli is the worst type of business man full of greed where profit is put above all else. I, in sharp contrast, actually care about the masses that truly need this technology so that they can have a better quality of life. I also care about actually doing something to heal the damage we all have contributed too to our planet. I have the skill and the drive in my heart to do the right thing using my god given talents for good, Daniel does not.


Note, it take time and money to start a company as Elon Musk did as you don't come out of the gate swinging and all goes as planned without any hiccups. I have failed more times than I succeeded but I keep getting back up and trying again. As for showing everything I have learned from those that did so in the past and what became of them when they did show this technology up and working as they are all dead now. Dr. Dingle, Stanley Meyer, and the list goes on they are all dead now and they took the technology with them in death. So, you can say I learned from their mistakes. But I made a promise that if I got at the actual science behind this technology I would post it in a public place for all to have, being a man of my word I did just that on this very forum. I can't help it if the science is beyond most peoples understanding, but know I kept my word as I am a honorable man and also note that now the science behind this technology will survive me if I am killed.


For those wanting to help aid my efforts to bring this technology to market you can do so here, thanks in advance for your support: https://www.gofundme.com/energytothepeople


Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions

Divide and conquer not going to work,

the thing is i am not asking for money
I have posted freely yet you come SPAMMING THREAD

and come here trying to ask for money ????

it is simply contradictory
PLease post things that are not advertising or slanderous try actually sharing to the forum things they can use

If you want to start a Ed Thread go do that put a for sale sign up

stay off other peoples thread if your simply spamming or forum will ban you

 :)

Stanley A Meyer Steam Resonator Circuit
steam resonator s/n 06 692 298 filed 01/11/85

Quote from: securesupplies on September 07, 2020, 10:42:42 PM

Divide and conquer not going to work,

the thing is i am not asking for money
I have posted freely yet you come SPAMMING THREAD

and come here trying to ask for money ??? ?

it is simply contradictory
PLease post things that are not advertising or slanderous try actually sharing to the forum things they can use

If you want to start a Ed Thread go do that put a for sale sign up

stay off other peoples thread if your simply spamming or forum will ban you

This isn't your thread as you hijacked it from someone that hasn't posted in this thread since 2010 because you like the name of the thread. And the only reason I posted on this thread was to tell you to not try and sell your wares on my YouTube videos, or have you forgotten already? Again I ask, this is you correct?

h bridge notes

 using the step up before vic

All you had to do was apologize and tell me you would stop trying to sell your wares on my YouTube channel and no longer steal my work and play it off as your own, but pride wouldn't let you, huh?


Since we are talking might I ask you a question, "What would have happened if I had brought my cell from you back then, what would I have gotten in the mail?" I sold just three of those by the way before I went back to the drawing board and made it a whole lot safer to deal. I decided to spend a little bit more money to make the cell stand out from among the crowd by making it from black Delrin. I also had the tolerances held to within ±0.0005 inches which is unheard of with this technology. It's my best work thus far in building this technology correctly as I learned how it all worked by asking and answer questions experimentally.


I sometimes wonder what have I ever done to you people that makes you want to stop me from bringing this technology to market? Sure I don't share some things I have figured out but I did keep my promise and give the actual science behind the technology once I had it all figured out free of charge. But I did so in a way that would require people to use their own brain power to get into this technology is that what has all of you so mad at me?


This technology is very costly to build correctly and doesn't have much in the way of leeway when it comes to messing something up. If you make the transformers and do not epoxy seal them they will not last very long. If you don't learn how to solder correctly for high voltage things will short out. If you don't pulse the WFC correctly it will not build up a charge especially if you allowed a ground in the system someplace. If you try and cheat and put something in the water to make it conductive the WFC will crack due to the high tolerances required to build these cells when it starts to heat up due to uneven thermal expansion. This technology is very unforgiving so I knew from the start those that were just trying to copy this technology would fail as this technology demands the one attempting to get it working to actually understand it first.


When you look at the newest WFC I made note you can't touch the tubes anymore as the voltages are far to high and could do some damage to someone if they got the capacitor to discharge it's energy through them to ground. Plus I found out the hard way the voltage gets high enough to ionize the air and then the current would take the path of least resistance and simply bypass all of the resonant cavities. Live and learn, yes?


Anyway, I am just trying to bring this technology into the marketplace in a way that this technology will not kill anyone, start fires, or short out a home or business's electrical system. It must be safe for use, and I will have to train installers, and technicians to know how to work on this technology. It's a lot of hard work that I don't see anyone willing to do right now.


So, I would appreciate it if all of you would just get off of my back already as my heart is in the right place.
Edward Mitchell
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions

Free  :)

Stanley A Meyer Version Schematic guide
Poster Attached

 8)

Mr. Secure Supplies,
I'm going to let you in on a little secret, Meyer's injectors never worked as designed, and to make a long story short it's due to the technology needing to be an isolated circuit. His injectors grounded out on the engine thus never able to create a negative voltage which is required to make this technology work. Sadly his life was taken before he could figure this out as I am sure he would have given enough time. If the plugs are to be designed correctly they need to be double insulated, the positive and negative need to be insulated from each other and the plug need to be insulated from the car's electrical system.


How do I know this? I made use of the scientific method and learned how the technology works and didn't move to just copy the technology like everyone else did. Meyer didn't have a completed technology ready for mass production and Don Gable made some copying errors. Put the two together and anyone truly wishing to get this technology actually working has to actually learn it through and through the hard way just as I did.


I know you and 88er are the same person and that is against the rules of this forum and grounds for being banned from the site as how does someone that makes their very first post on this site talk to me as if they have been following my work for years?


Another question just out of curiosity, "Are there codes of conduct concerning me that all of my enemies have agreed too or follow that say never apologize for anything and always treat him with disrespect and disdain?" Just wondering or thinking out loud as they say.


8)

Seams to work fine for me you must be just  un familiar with the application

I guess it is a good reason to shut up and  stay off the spamming if you want to learn

DD

dd

Quote from: securesupplies on September 09, 2020, 06:33:18 AM

Seams to work fine for me you must be just  un familiar with the application

I guess it is a good reason to shut up and  stay off the spamming if you want to learn

DD

So, tell us all what actually happened when people purchased my WFC from your site as inquiring minds would like to know?

@h2Opower

i am not securesupplies, and no, i have not followed your work but i will read thrue your thread yust out of curiosity. I am working on this field myself for some years allready.
But you where right with the capitalist :) i understand now what you had in common before, because i checked mr securesupplies out,
and i am sorry that i have to say that his type of at least communication is more the one of a fraudster then from anything else. But who gives a sh*t everybody needs to live somehow.
The sad thing here is only, that the internet is full of his spam, and its totally useless info everything from him because its totally chaotic.

@h2Opower am i allowed to send you a PM?

Quote from: 88er on September 09, 2020, 02:03:56 PM
@h2Opower

i am not securesupplies, and no, i have not followed your work but i will read thrue your thread yust out of curiosity. I am working on this field myself for some years allready.
But you where right with the capitalist :) i understand now what you had in common before, because i checked mr securesupplies out,
and i am sorry that i have to say that his type of at least communication is more the one of a fraudster then from anything else. But who gives a sh*t everybody needs to live somehow.
The sad thing here is only, that the internet is full of his spam, and its totally useless info everything from him because its totally chaotic.

@h2Opower am i allowed to send you a PM?

Right now I don't know whom to trust, but you are free to send me a PM, just know I will have a few monitors check things out as I don't trust Daniel Donatelli one bit.


Again this is him trying to post this comment on one of my videos on YouTube:

DD 

dd

dd

Auto  start and auto fill card ver 1  for matrix main board

I have no direct first hand experience nor have I seen these things myself but the following will be self explanatory. I hope it will be interesting to you all
https://youtu.be/gQoH8wslJRc

https://youtu.be/9kz4_8FPt_w

https://youtu.be/f73Rf8guXO8

https://youtu.be/vll2HJcCpEw

Water Fuel Level control tank and Cell 2 in1
we are making the system with color screens this will incorporate into the auto start board on gms unit m note the 2 sensors will be water proof and work different from each other one is running balancing of 1 or 2 water tanks ,
and 2nd is adjustment of the cell optimum water level no full or empty but optimum 2 cm range both are driven by a single smart synced circuit
work in progress will post update on this soon as we add to the autostart db 37 card for gms use

Auto Start auto fill version 2 vic gms matrix db 37

Circuit nearing completion
Stanley A Meyer Auto Start AUTOFILL Vic Matrix GMS Db 37
www.hot-rod-usa.com
Gerber Attached

and Arduino nano lib programing attached

Stanley A Meyer Auto Start AUTOFILL Vic Matrix GMS Db 37

www.hot-rod-usa.com



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Step by Step
it is Done  we now have faster uptake for every one 
Many people involved to many to mention
Thank you for your support which has made this possible
we now have it reserved on a greater scale if you want one please email me
danieldonatelli1@gmail.com
Gerber
Bom

All See K2 k3 k8 K11  Which driver signal in

Dan

 :)

Gerber

Dan

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vic testing
attached

Hi Daniel,

Did hear from some of mine partners, they are from Belgium and knowing you,
that you did find 8 years ago a Big-Investor from WhiteRussia, is this true and working?

What is the status of your build currently, maybe a movie?


Kind regards,
Johan

The world is building not one person but many thousands of builders.
The People who know and protect the technologies do not need any publicity or discussions.
Suggest you simply study the ways to build and implement no conversations are required here as this is
a charity thread to share knowledge.

 :)

A little insight here https://youtu.be/aySWX55-xX4 (https://youtu.be/aySWX55-xX4) on what Stan Meyer was saying here https://youtu.be/yGqCaVFWIWQ?t=1616 (https://youtu.be/yGqCaVFWIWQ?t=1616)

Remember that Stan's water fuel cell (WFC) is nothing more than a big electrolytic capacitor and the water in it serves as the dielectric. What Stan is (was) doing in his WFC was dissociating the water (H2O) into Hydrogen and Oxygen, or in other words, he was intentionally destroying the dielectric of his capacitor, i.e., dielectric breakdown. What is a dielectric breakdown?:

"Dielectric breakdown is the failure of an insulating material (the dielectric) to withstand an applied electrical stress (electric field). It can be complete (as in a spark breakdown), or partial (as in corona or a series of "partial discharges"). Dielectric breakdown occurs when the electrical field becomes high enough to cause some portion of a dielectric to abruptly switch from being an electrical insulator to a partial conductor. Dielectric breakdown can occur along the interface between two dielectrics or inside a single dielectric. It can occur abruptly across the surface or through the dielectric, or it can occur as a series of small electrical discharges that, over time, progressively damage the dielectric to the point where it eventually fails catastrophically.

In solids and gases, breakdown occurs when the applied electrical field becomes sufficient to rip electrons free from atoms/molecules in the dielectric. As newly-freed electrons become accelerated by the electric field, they collide with neutral atoms/molecules. If some of these collisions create more free electrons, the process will exponentially increase in a runaway process, called avalanche breakdown, that quickly leads to the sudden failure of the material. This process is called dielectric breakdown.

Avalanche breakdown within solids and liquid dielectrics is accompanied by chemical and physical changes that release gaseous byproducts. Pressure from the entrapped gas can contribute to further mechanical fracturing and electrical failure of surrounding solid dielectric material, and further weakening of dielectric strength in liquid dielectrics. In solids, dielectric breakdown causes irreversible damage, weakening it to the point where the dielectric can no longer perform its insulating function. In liquids, if power is quickly removed, the dielectric typically recovers most, or all, of its original dielectric breakdown strength and the associated equipment does not need to be taken out of service. Gases recover their original dielectric strength once power is removed and hot gases (from the previous breakdown spark or arc) have cooled down".  https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-dielectric-breakdown (https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-dielectric-breakdown)

The question is, how do you maintain resonance of an LC circuit when you are intentionally destroying the dielectric of your capacitor?
Stan Meyer figured it out!
Edit: Not sure if it's LC, but it is resonant (Newbs! ???)

secret?

As of right now I am unwilling to tell all I know about the technology but will say that this technology is far more complicated than it appears to be from what Meyer left behind. What I left on my thread will lead folks to understand how this technology works but I stopped short on some key things one needs to understand to be able to replicate this technology. As in the spirit of far play if I could make use of the scientific method to get at the technology's secrets then so can all of you reading this, yes? If you think I am being mean or obtuse then you haven't been following my journey in dealing with technology when it comes to the general public and the many online forums that went out of their way to block me and silence my voice. From Allen Sterling snubbing me at the 2013 Global BEM to all of Secure Supplies outright theft of things I wrote pawning it off as if they wrote it. I have been through that school of hard knocks Meyer spoke about and it has formed me into the man you see before you today whom is now totally unwilling to share beyond what I have already shared concerning this technology.


Every time someone comes into my thread to put me down without ever doing the work to see if what I have said is true or not adds up over time for if you read the thread fully it appears to be more people posting in my thread to bash me than there are those looking to understand how the technology works. What I do find interesting in all of this is I appear to be the only one that has demonstrated provably high voltage being applied to the water fuel cell using the correct tools and measuring devices for the task at hand. But in all truth what has that demonstration gotten me but ridicule and disdain. I think the last photo I shared in these types of forums was of me reaching 8.8kv to the WFC, but know I have reached much higher voltages.


As I moved to get the technology up and running something new always seems to be learned about the technology. It's become so much new learning that in all truth I simply can't share everything as no one would understand a word I was talking about as I left everyone way behind over a decade ago as that interview video was taken in 2013 and now it's 2023. But the same problems persist in that I need to spend ever increasing amounts of money in order to get the technology up and running the way it is supposed to be running. Add that to my new job working me over 12 hours five days a week and I am just too tired to do much of anything for this technology other than buy the rest of the things I need as I did finally get those wire tensioners but haven't even taken them out of the box yet due to working such long hours. But I keep hope alive in that one day I will be able to do something positive for this world using this technology.


Now I have five of these wire tensioners and trust me the cost was plenty high, so high in fact I think it works as a deterrent to others also wishing to get this technology up and running properly. But don't take my word for it and look into just how much they cost for yourselves.


Well, enough said, huh?
Edward Mitchell
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)

Another aspect that should be studied because it contains another secret that is seen in "Meyer": ampless displacement currents, DC oscillation of the charges in the bar., and nodes that are forming electric dipoles. 
Also look into Steinmetz, he teaches us to think of electricity in terms of dielectricity and electromagnetism, dielectrc circuit (dipole) and magnetic circuit (circular), which in our present model has been merged into 'the electric circuit'.

resonance and 180 degree phase shift

Quote from: tysb3 on March 14, 2023, 10:40:03 PM
resonance and 180 degree phase shift

Do you have anything on video showing this in a real world application or is this just a thought experiment that seems correct?


Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)

This is only idea from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgq8OR8HdnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgq8OR8HdnA)
From 13:00
Sorry, in Russian.
Its about healing by resonant fields. The pathological bacteria can not be destroyed by only resonance. Additionally needed the switching phase of electrical field. The best option is 180 degree. The switching phase is creating high frequency pulses. 

Quote from: tysb3 on March 18, 2023, 10:59:17 PM
This is only idea from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgq8OR8HdnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgq8OR8HdnA)
From 13:00
Sorry, in Russian.
Its about healing by resonant fields. The pathological bacteria can not be destroyed by only resonance. Additionally needed the switching phase of electrical field. The best option is 180 degree. The switching phase is creating high frequency pulses.

Hi Again,


It's kinda what I thought in that one unknown is being lumped with another unknown in the hopes of a solution popping up out of thin air. So, I'll direction your attention to that graph I provided and will now teach you how to read it correctly as though it appears simple it is actually complex. The vertical lines represent a single pulse time or square wave pulse that was sent to the VIC transformer. As shown in blue and red for every one pulse sent to the VIC transformer you get two pules headed to the Water Fuel Capacitor (WFC). The horizontal lines represent time and show just how many pulses were sent to the VIC transformer. In that example five pulses where sent to the VIC transformer resulting in ten pulses being sent to the WFC.
Now for the math part that shows just why the water bath never heats up when breaking the bonds of the water molecules in this fashion. The blue and red areas are to be summed up as they represent current flow that will pass through the system, IE, the water bath. With a perfectly balance waveform there will be no current flowing through the water bath as the blue and red areas of the graph simply cancel each other out when their sums are taken. The amplitude of the waveform represents voltage levels and you get a negative and positive voltage being sent to the plates of the WFC which is just a capacitor who's dielectric material being used is just water.
Now when looking at water it is made up of hydrogen and oxygen atoms whom both have a voltage threshold that once crossed will get them to release their electrons. With me so far? It is this act of removing the electrons that causes the water molecules to simply fall apart which is something can learn when studying photosynthesis as it turns out this is how plants break the bonds of the water molecules also but by a different method. Just know that the end process of breaking down the water molecules into their component atoms is always the same, take away the electrons and the water molecules fall apart into hydrogen & oxygen gases and the creation of an electric charge.
This is how Meyer's technology actually works to break the bonds of the water molecules and know it is most comparable to a thunderstorm as the whole process is just a means to mimic the earth's Global Electric Circuit electronically.


So, with this being said there are no more unknows as to the science behind the technology, correct? This was my gift to this forum but as you have seen it's been largely ignored by the many forum members of this forum. But this leaves us all in learning how to build it correctly by way of trial and error testing hopefully making use of the scientific method so that one can map out how to get it built correctly over time. As know even I fall under this part of this technology as I too must learn how to build it correctly so that this technology can see the light of day and truly make a difference in our lives. But the actual science is now known as I went and shared it with everyone that has come to this forum and took the time to read my thread or in any thread I posted the need to know information in free of charge.


Now I will post all the graphs just so that you all have the complete information showing that current gets canceled out with this technology as the voltage does the work of getting the electrons away from their atoms by way of ionization. I do this as I am getting tired of being ignored by the community here and also getting tired of seeing people lump one unknown with another with the hopes of some kind of miracle taking place that will allow the technology to work without any understanding on how it works scientifically.
If all of you reading this go through my thread you will see me doing what I can to build this technology correctly so that it works all the time every time it is needed for us to be able to take full control of our own energy needs. It's not an easy technology to build correctly as the rules of building it are roughly unknown and thus must be discovered by way of trial and error testing. I poured a lot of money into this technology can still need to pour more money into it but it's a must have technology if we are to be able to take full control of our own energy needs and do something meaningful about our climate change problems.


Shalom and take care,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)

https://youtu.be/sdSO8_hKx7A (https://youtu.be/sdSO8_hKx7A)
Here is a dude posted his new video.
Accidentally stumbled upon. Can't comment, see for yourself.

Hi All,

These claims are just that, it's becoming a circus bringing up old claims that nobody has produce a working model.

If Stanley Meyers system really work, then why was he sued for false claims?

Some information people need to read:

In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]

Meyer demonstrated a dune buggy which he claimed was powered by his water fuel cell. He estimated that only 22 US gallons (83 liters) of water were required to travel from Los Angeles to New York.[8] Furthermore, Meyer claimed to have replaced the spark plugs with "injectors" to spray a fine mist of water into the engine cylinders, which were subjected to an electrical resonance. The water fuel cell would split the water mist into hydrogen and oxygen gas, which would then be combusted back into water vapor in a conventional internal combustion engine to produce net energy.[3] Philip Ball, writing in academic journal Nature, characterized Meyer's claims as pseudoscience, noting that "It's not easy to establish how Meyer's car was meant to work, except that it involved a fuel cell that was able to split water using less energy than was released by recombination of the elements ... Crusaders against pseudoscience can rant and rave as much as they like, but in the end they might as well accept that the myth of water as a fuel is never going to go away."[2]
There is no documented proof that the system produces enough hydrogen to run an engine. To date no peer review studies of Meyer's devices have been published in the scientific literature, although his claims have been thoroughly discredited in scientific journals.

Lets be very clear, these false claims people are making today needs to be called out. Without a true working prototypes these past claims on UO need to stop. It really hurts those who are looking for real facts and a working prototypes.

The only way we can work together is to look in the past and not to repeat the same old BS.

Stanley Meyers was a con-man, if he really believe he was saving the world and God showed him this technology then why was he looking for money?

I stand by my own claims of keep it open source, until you all realize money is not the answer to true freedom of free energy. We are no different then Big oil and any other greedy person.

Nobody will create free energy if they think of the money, a 5 cent bullet would make anyone disappear. Another reason it need to be open source and free for all!

Tom

https://overunity.com/18865/low-temperature-catalytic-thermolysis-of-water/msg575130/#msg575130 (https://overunity.com/18865/low-temperature-catalytic-thermolysis-of-water/msg575130/#msg575130)
Well, this is where the dude got the real results.
So no one pays attention. :(

Quote from: TommeyReed on March 20, 2023, 09:43:50 AM
Hi All,

These claims are just that, it's becoming a circus bringing up old claims that nobody has produce a working model.

If Stanley Meyers system really work, then why was he sued for false claims?

Some information people need to read:

In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]

Meyer demonstrated a dune buggy which he claimed was powered by his water fuel cell. He estimated that only 22 US gallons (83 liters) of water were required to travel from Los Angeles to New York.[8] Furthermore, Meyer claimed to have replaced the spark plugs with "injectors" to spray a fine mist of water into the engine cylinders, which were subjected to an electrical resonance. The water fuel cell would split the water mist into hydrogen and oxygen gas, which would then be combusted back into water vapor in a conventional internal combustion engine to produce net energy.[3] Philip Ball, writing in academic journal Nature, characterized Meyer's claims as pseudoscience, noting that "It's not easy to establish how Meyer's car was meant to work, except that it involved a fuel cell that was able to split water using less energy than was released by recombination of the elements ... Crusaders against pseudoscience can rant and rave as much as they like, but in the end they might as well accept that the myth of water as a fuel is never going to go away."[2]
There is no documented proof that the system produces enough hydrogen to run an engine. To date no peer review studies of Meyer's devices have been published in the scientific literature, although his claims have been thoroughly discredited in scientific journals.

Lets be very clear, these false claims people are making today needs to be called out. Without a true working prototypes these past claims on UO need to stop. It really hurts those who are looking for real facts and a working prototypes.

The only way we can work together is to look in the past and not to repeat the same old BS.

Stanley Meyers was a con-man, if he really believe he was saving the world and God showed him this technology then why was he looking for money?

I stand by my own claims of keep it open source, until you all realize money is not the answer to true freedom of free energy. We are no different then Big oil and any other greedy person.

Nobody will create free energy if they think of the money, a 5 cent bullet would make anyone disappear. Another reason it need to be open source and free for all!

Tom

Hello Tom,


I run into people like you all the time that don't understand the simple science I just posted that shows mathematically just how the technology works but there is more as if you ever took the time to ready my thread then you will also see that I provided examples of this type of water separation taking place in nature and with man made stuff. It's not that complicated now that I have uncovered the science behind the technology and shared it in an Open Source format such as this site. The hard part is learning how to build it correctly as it cost a lot of money doing thing the proper way making use of the scientific method through trial and error testing as I am currently doing right now.


Long ago the bar was set telling us that no one could put high voltage to a container full of water and when I did it that bar simply got moved to a higher requirement. If this technology was easy everyone would be doing it but some key things that would have allowed everyone to have replications of their own where lost in time as that converted alternator was traded in for a core charge by the guy that knew Meyer. The injectors never actually worked as Meyer made some mistakes and those mistakes he made made it so the injectors simply wouldn't work as designed. In fact so many false truths have been put out about this technology that will steer folks away from a working prototype it truly isn't funny.


In time this technology will out as if it's in the scriptures then it will come to pass as the creator is not a man that he would lie.


So, if this technology was Open Sourced the cost to build it properly is what would prevent folks from ever giving it a try as trust me that cost is really high due to all the materials, tools, measuring devices, and other related equipment that needs to be brought just so one could work on this technology. As everything you have seen me buy you too would have to buy if you wanted to build this technology and have a shot of getting it to work properly. That simply talk that Meyer put out was just a lie to keep people off of his tale concerning would be copycats.


Well, I have more to say on this but I have to go as it's time for me to get back to work. As seen in the photo you also need to be prepared to fail.


Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions.

 Hi    h20power,

Let just get to the real facts, prove it and stop claiming you have proof!

Why not add the $$$, Stanley Meyers did that too!

So you're saying Stanley Meyer didn't get sued for fraud, and this is a government conspiracy?

The amount of watts needed to make HHO in a electrolysis, is far greater then the BTU you get out of HHO. 1 watt =3.41 BTU. Until you really understand the true power needed to make enough HHO, the system start making steam between these crazy idea of plates designs of 2 volts!

What really gets me is all the claims of using frequency and pwms to make this special magic is just unproven to this day. It takes WATTS, not magic!

Also people are just either foolish or not knowing  these two gases mixed together are not made for running any IC engine, a real electrolysis not these cookie jar with magic sauce mixture everyone talks about.

Electrolysis is used to separates hydrogen and oxygen.

Even when you just collect enough hydrogen, you still will have a lost of energy in vs energy out!

h20power, maybe you need to rethink calling out me who knows about HHO and just prove to everyone you have a running engine.

I know a friend who ran a 8hp engine that just idle under no load, he used 11kw of power!

Let me just get to the point, prove it before making false claims with foolish drawings. This Stanley Meyers claims are getting old, there have been experts in the field that couldn't duplicate his claims for years!

Tom

Quote from: TommeyReed on March 21, 2023, 05:07:46 PM
Hi    h20power,

Let just get to the real facts, prove it and stop claiming you have proof!

Why not add the $$$, Stanley Meyers did that too!

So you're saying Stanley Meyer didn't get sued for fraud, and this is a government conspiracy?

The amount of watts needed to make HHO in a electrolysis, is far greater then the BTU you get out of HHO. 1 watt =3.41 BTU. Until you really understand the true power needed to make enough HHO, the system start making steam between these crazy idea of plates designs of 2 volts!

What really gets me is all the claims of using frequency and pwms to make this special magic is just unproven to this day. It takes WATTS, not magic!

Also people are just either foolish or not knowing  these two gases mixed together are not made for running any IC engine, a real electrolysis not these cookie jar with magic sauce mixture everyone talks about.

Electrolysis is used to separates hydrogen and oxygen.

Even when you just collect enough hydrogen, you still will have a lost of energy in vs energy out!

h20power, maybe you need to rethink calling out me who knows about HHO and just prove to everyone you have a running engine.

I know a friend who ran a 8hp engine that just idle under no load, he used 11kw of power!

Let me just get to the point, prove it before making false claims with foolish drawings. This Stanley Meyers claims are getting old, there have been experts in the field that couldn't duplicate his claims for years!

Tom

Hey Tom,


I already have all the proof I need as scientific proof is proof unless you now don't believe in science either. What bothers me is right in this forum Steffen posted what actually happened in Meyer's day in court right here: [size=78%]https://overunity.com/7034/the-stan-meyer-case-setting-it-straight-finally/ (https://overunity.com/7034/the-stan-meyer-case-setting-it-straight-finally/)[/size] And people like you never bother to read anything and just come in blasting things you have no idea about because all you tend to get your news information from is the main stream sources.


As for the science I shared openly in this forum it's real but the reader must have the proper education level to be able to understand it as after all I did make use of the scientific method to get at this technology's secrets. I find that most people talking about this technology are about as smart as a bag of rocks. Most don't know how to interpret the readings on a oscilloscope, or perform proper scientific experiments, and are totally lacking in the basic level of education needed to attempt to understand this technology let alone get the technology up and running plus have understanding of just how to go about implementing the technology. Most simply aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is with this technology as there is so much that one needs to buy, design, and build and failure will be a common theme until the rest of the secrets I haven't figured out are solved. I fully admit I don't share everything I know as all I promised to do back in the day was to share the science behind this technology if I ever figured it out and I kept that promise.


As for me personally things take time as I'm a working stiff like most other people and have to save my hard earned cash to buy the things I need for this technology. Sure I do get some donations which I am truly grateful for but for the most part all of the spending you see me doing comes out of my own pockets. Once I had the science solved it was on to learning just how to build or not build the technology which I have to make use of the trail and error methodology on. It cost a lot of money to design and build prototypes and over the years I have learned by way of this trial and error testing method what to do or not to do. With each and every failure there was a lesson to be learned and more questions to asked and answered. One thing I don't need to do is prove anything to the likes of you as just who are you? I don't know you and have never seen or heard of you doing anything with your life as to garner my attention other than be disrespectful to the dead and compare apples to walnuts trying to make some sort of comparison between this technology and electrolysis. So, like everyone else you too must wait until I complete my task working at my own pace for if you don't wish to wait then you are more than welcome to get there before I do.


Just to give you some idea how different this technology is from the electrolysis method let me ask you what happens to a plant if you put a salt, acid, or base on it's roots? You kill the plant correct? Well, the same goes for this technology as if you put some salt, acid, or base in the water you prevent this technology from working. You see the bonds of the water molecules are being broken down in much the same way a plant goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules with it's end steps. But know this technology most directly mimics a thunderstorm in how it works, but sadly mainstream science doesn't actually know just how a thunderstorm works.


Since I seem to be the only one that I know of that has shown high voltage being applied to a WFC in a provable manor I find myself standing alone for over thirteen years now. Since people simply will not follow my lead they never get any high voltage being applied to their WFC's. But since I am poor it takes me awhile to save up for the things I need so my pace is slow. But as I said everyone can jump in and beat me to the punch if the wanted too as it's a free world, right? This technology will come out when it's the right time for it to do so and not a moment sooner.


Well, time to go again as I need my rest.
Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)

You spoke that everything your an achieving,you shall leave to your kids.
Could you adopt me ? I would be your favorite child, the prettiest child, the smartest child...
Besides, I know a few things. ;) And the fact that I'm white is not a problem.
I will fight white hooligans for you...

Hi h20power,

For someone who get funding and have no prototype to prove their theory speaks for it's self.

Now, unlike many builders I don't get any funding and do get offers. I learn a long time ago to never take money unless you're willing to pay that person back. Why is it we can take out a car loan, house or even money to waste?

Enough said, the fact nobody has duplicated a 25+ year old claim should speak for it's self.

You're right in your own mind, I know nothing about HHO!

Now instead of going back and forth like school girls because I told the truth up to now lets look at what really is needed to run a car on water.

If Stanley Meyer did produce HHO as he claimed, it wasn't from a electrolysis. I believe the so call water splitter is the key.

Distill water  with no electrolyte could be used with high voltage discharge in a water splitter injector. Unlike most claims I did these experiments many years back.

This summer I plan to do just that, two things happen when discharging distill water with around 2000v / 20uf capacitors. It creates super heated steam and the other is HHO. Some people believe it's a shock wave, I say it's much more then that from past experiments.

A simple car ignition coil could be used to charge the caps and a simple trigger circuit.

I'm not going to explain everything at this time because I need to test these water splitter injectors design. Because there are snakes on these forums who will take someones hard work and make money on it.

A simple drawing would do.

Tom

Quote from: TommeyReed on March 22, 2023, 07:10:09 AM
If Stanley Meyer did produce HHO as he claimed, it wasn't from a electrolysis.

I think we can all agree on that fact.

It's rumored however, his "natural water" may have contained
deuterium and his energy gain was due to LENR.  If that is true,
I'm not certain Ed would even talk about it.

Hi All,

If we really want to solve the energy problem we must all be willing to open source and stop playing games with secrets of the Stanley Meyer claims.

Even when I dumped $20+k into the Clem Engine, it wouldn't worked as many have claimed, it wasn't until I study all the possibilities that I fully understand how it could works. I followed many designs base on Keelynet and others. Until I started to do testing on my own with hydraulics, rim jets and pressure. I would still be copying these claims of how it works with years of lost $$$.

I know what it take to get any engine running and HHO is not the fuel to do it with. HHO produce a fast explosion an implosion effect, due to the limited heat from the flash of the explosion.
If the heat is not slow down, then it's impossible to create a higher pressure when dealing with Charles Law V1/T1=V2/T2.

Lets work together and if others want to have secrets maybe open source is not for you.

Tom

Hello Everyone,


Let me ask you this question Tom,
"When a fossil fuel is burned what is actually burning scientifically?"



And to Dog-One,
The water had no more deuterium than any other natural water source. As that had nothing to do with the water being broken down into hydrogen, oxygen gas atoms, and the creation of an electric charge. I am kinda shocked I have to share a photo like this to explain the make up of the water molecules but it's the only way I know of to get the point across. The atoms that make up the water molecules share electrons to give the molecules a stable eight electron configuration.
Now here is a video showing just how a plant goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules. Please watch this video as the talks beyond this point will assume that the video was watched: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJqEk1ouDuo&ab_channel=PaulHeideman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJqEk1ouDuo&ab_channel=PaulHeideman)[/size]


As you can see a plant reaches in and takes the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules. And just like I have stated like a broken record this act of taking away the electrons from the atoms that make up the water molecules is what breaks the bonds of the water molecules. Now here is the million dollar question, "How many different ways do we know of to get the electrons away from their atoms?" The surprising part of those answers is each method will work towards breaking the bonds of the water molecules, but of those methods the most efficient is ionization which charges the plates of a capacitor who's dielectric material is water. Now in my thread I gave many examples of this type of water separation so I will not go on repeating myself in this thread.
As seen in the video a plant reaches in and takes one electron and them sends it back so that it can take away the other electron.
Science is cool, yes? Now you all should know just what's being done by Meyer, and others, to break the bonds of the water molecules using high voltage potential differences.


I hope you all enjoyed that lesson,
Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)

h20power,

Instead of playing kids games, why not stop the BS and show what you really have?

NOTHING but, look at this video and that video. Look at me I invested someone else $$$ to play. Yet, nothing to show.

NO running engine, just small talk with nothing but kids games.

What a character to post a GoFundMe on OU, $200,000  you can't make this stuff up!

I seen that video with a simple HHO cell, really 300v and over 1 amp, boy you can boil water with 300 watts!

Instead of showing something interesting, you're like many people who claim to know how Stanley Meyer created this magic, has nothing that proves a theory to this day.

Just looking at your past posts, you are clearly on the right track of you're own theories. But, nothing to show in the real world of experiments.

The more you text, just shows you have nothing to prove Stanley Meyer did have a car running on HHO. If fact, you're adding to these false claims!

I think being on OU and asking for money is not what this forum is about Edward Mitchell.

Asking for $200,000 just shows you have no skills to show a simple cheap small engine running with your claims.

This is about open source, why your asking for money to buy tools is just insane.

I could help you building a working prototype, you don't need $200,000 for tools. I have the tools and skills to make a engine running on HHO if your theory is correct.

Edward Mitchell, many people should question your real motive if you turn down my offer!

Good luck!

Tom

Quote from: TommeyReed on March 22, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
I fully understand how it could works.


Tom

Obviously by cooling of environment.
Some part of this machine must be cooled below ambient temperature. I'm right?

1. getting extra space curvature
                ||
                \/
2. change in the speed of time
                ||
                \/
3. thermodynamic phenomena (cooling, heating)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCXdziKE40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCXdziKE40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f45pvwX7U-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f45pvwX7U-w)

Hello Everyone,


Well, it's clear that Tom has no idea what is burning when an engine is running on fossil fuels as the answer is, "Hydrogen." With that being said does an engine care where it gets the hydrogen from? The answer to that question is, "Nope." Even when wood is burning what's actually burning is hydrogen. The rate at which the hydrogen burns is directly proportional to the  bonds that must be broken for the hydrogen to combine with the oxygen. This is why Meyer altered the burn rate of hydrogen to co-equal that of fossil fuels by adding into the gaseous mixture things that do not support the burning process which will physically get in the way of the hydrogen and oxygen gas atoms from coming together.


On my crowdfund I am very clear of my goals and intentions but you have a problem with allowing others to put in their help in bringing this technology out even after I have shown you just how expensive bringing something to market actually is. From that video I posted it should be very clear to everyone, whom are smarter than a bag of rocks, just how this technology goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules by taking away the electrons from that atoms that make up the water molecules by way of ionization. This technology most directly mimics a thunderstorm or the earth's global electric circuit if looking at the bigger picture. But I digress as it's pointless talking to someone that clearly has a problem with technologies like these coming out into our world.


Now for everyone else, "Did you get how a plant goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules from that video?" If so just know that any way that will take away the electrons from that atoms that make up the water molecules will work towards breaking the bonds of the water molecules. The science behind this technology was hard to get at but by keeping my nose to the grindstone of science following the scientific method I was able to get at the science behind this technology. In time I hope to be able to bring this technology out but I am still in the process of gathering the tools, machines, and materials needed to complete the task at hand. Plus learning just works and does not work when designing and building things for this technology as Meyer took that information with him in death.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56 (https://gofund.me/94431e56)