UFO are a phenomenon observed since the 50's only.
Nowhere in older mythologies, histories and litteratures previous to the 1950's does our ancestors mentionned any observation whatsoever.
It is impossible for our ancestors who live without electricity, to have never notice visitation of flying craft!
When flying was never invented in the first place, it will be everywhere in every cult and stories.
But no, nothing...
So we have to conclude that the Nazis Bell experiment laid the foundation to anti-gravitational technologies and it end-up in the wrong hands after WW2.
The Mafia who gave us the HolocHoax, the Kenedys shooting, the Fake Moon Landings, the fake 9/11 Islamist operation are now gonna do a great finale: UFO Light & Sound show with the help of their pedophiles followers from the Pleiades and from Earth they will bring the gullible mass to the next step of this human comedy.
Demons and spirits summoning are as old as human sacrifice, it is not ALIENs from another planet
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 12:38:24 PM
UFO are a phenomenon observed since the 50's only.
Nowhere in older mythologies, histories and litteratures previous to the 1950's does our ancestors mentionned any observation whatsoever.
It is impossible for our ancestors who live without electricity, to have never notice visitation of flying craft!
When flying was never invented in the first place, it will be everywhere in every cult and stories.
But no, nothing...
So we have to conclude that the Nazis Bell experiment laid the foundation to anti-gravitational technologies and it end-up in the wrong hands after WW2.
The Mafia who gave us the HolocHoax, the Kenedys shooting, the Fake Moon Landings, the fake 9/11 Islamist operation are now gonna do a great finale: UFO Light & Sound show with the help of their pedophiles followers from the Pleiades and from Earth they will bring the gullible mass to the next step of this human comedy.
Demons and spirits summoning are as old as human sacrifice, it is not ALIENs from another planet
Wrong on all accounts again. UFO's and aliens are mentioned all throughout the ancient manuscripts and have been observed by our ancestors. Maybe you should take a look at Ezekiel and the books of Enoch to begin with. In addition to those two books, there are other references throughout the rest of the ancient manuscripts, which are too numerous to even begin to list them all.
Then there are the many drawings found in reference to UFO's and aliens which are thousands of years old. The bottom line is, life will take hold where ever it can and is found all throughout the universe.
The star wars defense system has a hidden purpose and that is too shoot down extraterrestrial crafts in outer space,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1EqA0bjQu8 Why would they be shooting at their own spacecrafts? Your theory holds no weight whatsoever.
The Mexican Air Force has made disclosure on extraterrestrial crafts,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxr6sdhjsR8Again, way too many references to even mention which fully disproves your ideas about there not being any mention of UFO's by our ancestors prior to the 1950's. Don't worry, I'll be posting some of them at a later time.
GB
Please list 3 of the "too many to list them all" sources for your inhabitant from other planet who visit you at night.
Put the complete quotes and the contexts to prove your point.
Please put an end to the debate.
PS: We found drawing of thousands years old Flying Cow too
you are more and more exposing yourself as an disinfo agent
Are you Jewish?
There is no observational testimonies of UFOs prior to the 1950s
The clown is claiming all kinds of non-sense on this forum, once again, he is now claiming that his little bed friend were always with us...
Nothing in the middle ages nothing in the antiquity, nothing...
Yeah he found a little hierogliph that might look like something like...
If they exist outside your bed, all the litteratures of all ages will testifies of them, but nada...
You are either Totally Stupid or you are following the same agenda of the pedophiles who are trying to push the next religion based on fake UFO manifestation that is on the menu to explain the cataclysm coming
You're stupid, I'm stupid.....we're all with stupid, the only thing missing is a world wide supply of T-shirts.
http://www.asimfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/stupid.jpg
Let us muster personal strength of character and discourse with civility if we have a shred of self respect or respect for others remaining, people. It is what once used to separate us from the animals.
fwiw,
The following is one of my personal accounts regarding the UFO issue:
http://www.rense.com/general54/babalc.htm
Blessings
Are these the type of pre 1950 reports you are looking for or do you need eye witness accounts?
1946
Aug 1 18:00hrs - Pilot and crew of a C-47 aircraft 30 miles north-east of Tampa, Fla., saw a cigar-shaped object with luminous portholes hurtle towards them in horizontal flight at the same altitude of 4,000ft. At 1,000 yards distant it swerved to avoid them. Estimated size of object was twice that of a B-29 bomber.
1946
May / October - The well-documented 'Ghost Rocket' invasion of Sweden took place as cigar-shaped objects rained down on land and lake in this area of northern Europe.
1945
March - Fourteen men on the USAT Delarof in the area of the Aleutian Islands saw a dark spherical object rise out of the water, circle their ship and fly off to the south. (Source: UFO Investigator, Vol 4 No 5)
1944
December - Major Leet, a bomber pilot, saw a luminous disc follow his plane and its manoeuvres while flying over Klagenfurt, Austria.
1943
September - A domed UFO that emitted a white light was seen flying less than 20 feet above the ground at Qing Xian, Hebet Province, China.
1943
September - Soldiers fighting at Pushkino, Russia, saw a disc-shaped object hovering high in the air above aircraft.
1942
August - While in the Solomon Islands US Marine Corp Sgt. Stephen J. Brickner sighted a staggering 150 UFOs laid out in virtually an enormous rectangle. They were in rows of 15 objects long by ten objects deep. (Source: The UFO Encyclopedia by John Spencer)
1942
Feb 26 - When in the Timor Sea, the cruiser Tromp was approached by a large aluminum disc that flew at tremendous speed. It then circled the Dutch vessel for about three to four hours. Finally, it flew off at an estimated speed of 3,000-3,5000mph.
1938
Autumn - Two observers at Juminda, Esthonia, watched a 1 metre long object that was greenish -brown in color until it finally disappeared.
1935
Summer - Three witnesses saw landed UFO at Nipawin, Saskatchewan, Canada and watched several little entities in silver suits ascending and descending a ladder. Square imprints and burnt areas seen and photographed at the location the next day.
1935
October - During the Ethiopian War a disc-shaped object hovered motionless in the sky above Addis Ababa and was seen by many witnesses.
1933
December - This month saw the beginning of the Swedish 'Ghost Flier' Wave. It ended four years later with an accumulation of 1,000 reports that also covered neighboring Finland and Norway. Most sightings involved airplane-shaped craft and luminous phenomena. None identified.
1931
The late Sir Francis Chichester was on a flight across the Tasman Sea when what looked like a dull gray-white airship approached him. It was pearl-shaped, flashing brightly, periodically vanishing, re-appearing, accelerating and finally disappeared.
1927
July -A cylindrical object flew over a Rumanian village at an altitude of 200-300 m from west to east. Smoke grey in color it was an estimated 15-20 m in length and had a diameter of 3-4 m. It was not illuminated and passed soundlessly.
1927
A disc-shaped object with a dome on top was seen to light up a valley as it landed one evening near Fernvale, NSW, Australia. The witnesses returned the next day and discovered a circle of scorched grass about 10m in diameter.
1926
August 5 09:30 hrs - During his expedition in Mongolia, explorer Nicholas Roerich and members of his caravan, caught sight of a huge oval-shaped object high in the sky. It had a shiny surface that reflected the sun on one side and moved at great speed north to south.
1925
Two Australian teenagers stumbled upon a saucer-shaped shimmering object resting on four legs in a paddock near Moora, WA. They ran off in fear.
1924
September - Two boys in County Wexford, Ireland, watched for several minutes as a solid beam of light several feet long travelled through the air a few feet from the ground. It moved at approximately 10mph, climbing a hedge and crossing a field, before encountering a railroad track and moving off along its length. (Source: The UFO Encylopedia (Headline) p. 412/413)
1923
June - As a 10-year-old, Raymond Massey can still vividly recall the day he encountered a landed craft and watched as its five small occupants conducted repairs to the domed vehicle, before it took off and disappeared. ( Source: Evansville Courier Ill, USA - Aug 12 1998 )
1922
Summer - Many witnesses in Poland observe a silvery object -- two hemispheres divided by a rotating ring. The object 'shoots' a beam of light, then rises with a loud noise. ( Source: UFOs 1947-1987 p.124)
1917
May - The celebrated vision of the Virgin Mary took place this month at Fatima, Portugal. This was accompanied by additional unexplained aerial phenomena, in the form of glowing spheres and disc-shaped objects.
1916
July 31 23:00hrs - A bright object was seen hovering in the sky over Ballinasloe, Ireland. It was visible for fifteen minutes before travelling to the north-west. It was then observed to hover for a further forty-five minutes. It eventually vanished for good after Venus rose on the horizon at 04:00hrs.
1915
February - It was billed in newspapers of the time as the Phantom Invasion of Canada. Mystery Aircraft invaded the skies and capital of this nation but was America really responsible? See Mystery Aircraft of Canada for further details.
1914
Aug -- Eight witnesses saw a UFO floating on the water of Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada. Entities were manipulating a hose dipped into the water. On seeing the witnesses they returned inside, all except one who was still outside when the craft took off.
1913
Jan / Feb - Still two years before Germany officially launched its Zepellin raids on Britain and phantom airships were once again criss-crossing the night skies. A few reports gave details of multi-colored, multiple lights being seen but as in earlier years the craft usually came equipped with one powerful light. See Mystery Airships of Britain for further details.
1913
Feb 10 14:00hrs - Several office workers in Toronto watched what they concluded to be a fleet of airships passing west to east in groups. They then returned later in a scattered formation. No airships nore airplanes were ever identified with this report.
1910
July - The crew of a French fishing boat operating off the Normandy coast saw 'a large, black, bird-like object' fall from the sky into the sea, then bounded back before it fell once more and disappeared under the waves.
1909
May - Mystery airships seen almost exclusively at night, once again visited many parts of Britain. Mostly described as oblong in shape and equipped with a large searchlight, the craft was capable of propelling itself through the air at great speed.
1909
July / Aug - A phantom airship wave visited New Zealand during this period of time as many people reported seeing boat-shaped aerial craft and lights-in-the-sky. During an encounter at Hawkes Bay in August, one of the occupants of an airship shouted out to a man below in an unknown tongue.
1909
June 16 - Fishermen located at the port city of Dong Hui, Vietnam saw an elongated brightly lit object flying over the community for nearly ten minutes. It then disappeared after plunging into the sea of the cost. [See Modern Mysteries of the World, p. 168]
1908
A very bright spherical object flew slowly above a square in Sofia, Bulgaria one afternoon.
1906
Oct 30 16:30hrs -- Deck of the ship 'St Andrew' sailing in the North Atlantic, some 600 miles NE of Newfoundland, Canada ...... "I saw three meteors fall into the water dead ahead of the ship one after another at a distance of about five miles. Although it was daylight, they left a red streak in the air from zenith to the horizon. Simultaneously the third engineer shouted to me. I then saw a huge meteor on the port beam falling in a zig-zag manner less than a mile away to the southward. We could distinctly hear the hissing of water as it touched. It fell with a rocking motion leaving a broad red streak in its wake. The meteor must have weighed several tons, and appeared to be 10 to 15 feet in diameter. It was saucer shaped which probably accounted for the peculiar rocking motion. When the mass of metal struck the water the spray and steam rose to a height of at least 40 feet, and for a few moments looked like the mouth of a crater. If it had been night, the meteor would have illuminated the sea for 50 or 60 miles." [Source: NY Times Nov 5 1906]
1905
Summer - During the evening at Bucovina, Rumania, a retired doctor saw a brightly glowing elongated, saucer-shaped object bigger than the moon travelling steadily westwards.
1904
Feb 24 - Crew of the SS Supply sighted three luminous discs flying in formation just below clouds at an estimated height of 5,000ft. They then disappeared in the cloud bank.
1899
After alerting its telegraph offices to be on the lookout for invading British aircraft, the Transvaal government in South Africa was inundated with sighting reports. Phantom airships, often equipped with powerful searchlights, mysteriously appeared in the skies around. Of course, neither aircraft nor airplanes were known to exist in Africa at this time.
1897
June 10 1897 - Two Canadian fishermen in British Columbia saw a pear-shaped craft flying south -wards.
1896
The phantom airship wave in the United States initially struck in California at the end of this year and into the next. Soon sightings spread east as literally thousands of people claimed to have seen the mystery craft and, on occasion met with the strange gibbering occupants.
1892
March - phantom airship scare began in Russian Poland. As in most later 'flaps' of this sort, the craft often appeared at night and were usually equipped with powerful searchlights.
1883
Aug - Over 400 cigar-shaped and disc-shaped objects were reported moving across the sun by a Mexican astronomer. His photographs represent probably the earliest UFO pictures.
1883
A teacher and children at a school in Segeberg, Germany, all saw two fiery balls in a clear sky one summer's day. The size of two full moons, the objects travelled slowly together from north to south.
1882
On the night of November 17, a huge UFO -- the first such phenomenon which was characteristically saucer-shaped, was plainly observed by numerous people in England and other parts of Europe. It was seen to travel in the sky at an approximate altitude of 130 miles in an east-west direction. A number of eminent scientists witnessed the object, among them being Dr E Walter Maunder, Greenwich astronomer; English spectroscopist J Rand Capron; Dutch astronomers Audemans and Zeeman. The Royal Observatory, Greenwich published a report of the conclusions reached by scientists, following the appearance of what had been termed, "The Great Saucer". The report had this to say: "It appeared to be well defined in body and the inference drawn was that it was a meteor, not in the old vague sense of some object high in the Earth's atmosphere, but in the sense of a solid cosmological substance, disc-like in appearance, the orbit of which brought it within the terrestrial atmosphere. But nothing could be more unlike the rush of a great meteor or fireball, with intense radiance and fiery train. The advance of this object, though swift, appeared to be orderly and controlled. There was no sign of the compression of the atmosphere before it, no hint that the matter composing its front part, was in any way more strongly heated than the rest of its substance -- if substance, indeed it possessed."
1880
May - The British steamer Patna was traversing the waters of the Persian Gulf when around mid- night the captain and several other members of crew all saw two enormous glowing wheels appear underwater on each side of the ship. The phenomenon lasted nearly 20mins.
1880
July 30 - A large illuminated globe, accompanied by two smaller lights are seen to follow a ravine outside St Petersburgh, Russia.
1880
Aug 20 - A member of the French Academy observed a glittering, white-gold cigar-shaped object in the sky that had pointed ends.
1874
July 6 - Residents of Oaxaca, Mexico, saw a huge, gently-swaying, trumpet-shaped object estimated to be 425ft long hovering in the sky for six minutes.
1847
March 19 - A spherical craft was spotted rising vertically through the clouds over London.
1846
Oct 26 - At Lowell, in the United States, a 'luminous flying disc' was reported over this eastern seaboard area.
1845
May 11 - Italian astronomers at a Naples observatory recorded the appearance of several luminous discs which left trails.
1842
Small metal objects, perfectly hexagonal, fell out of the sky after a "strange cloud" appeared over the community of Orenburg, Soviet Union.
1836
Jan 12 - In the French coastal town of Cherbourg, what was a described as a 'gleaming aerial vessel' was seen in the sky overhead.
1833
Nov 13 - A large, square, luminous object was seen for more than an hour over Niagara Falls.
1831
Nov 29 - At Thuringia it was reported that a brilliant luminous disc was seen in the night sky.
1826
April 1 - Sailors in the English Channel reported seeing a grey, torpedo-shaped object flying overhead.
1820
Sept 7 - A formation of flying objects crossed the French town of Embrun.
1819
Aug 13 - A white silvery fireball light accompanied by a violent explosion was seen at Amhurst, Mass. Afterwards, a gelatinous substance was said to have been found.
1816
October - Many people in Edinburgh saw a large, luminous crescent-shaped object flying over the city.
1812
This sighting occured over the town of Bucovina. â€Towards noon a large star with many rays appeared and in the night she ascended higher and flew in the direction of the Russians; afterwards she returned and went to the west, where the beams where extinguished. Thus did the star reveal herself for four months. It was during the war between the Russians, French and Germans. (Witness: Stan Irinie from Sâcele-Brasov. (Biblioteca Academiei, â€manuscris românesc†1346 f:2V. / Credit: http://www.wufoc.com)
1808
Oct 12 - Formation of 'luminous discs' observed in the sky above Piedmont, France.
1803
Jan 21 - What was recorded as a shooting-star got larger and larger until it fell to earth between Barsdorf and Freiburg in Silesia. A whizzing noise was heard as it passed close to the ground before it landed and then lay burning. Next day a jelly-like mass was found on the snow.
1796
Mar 8 - A bright light irregular in form and the size of the moon was seen in the sky above Dresden and Berlin, Germany. A large detonation was heard and a dark bituminous substance fell to earth (Source: Baumhauer's Catalogue)
1793
Sept 10 - A bright oval light was observed in the sky over Northumberland for around five minutes. At first it appeared the size of Sirius.
1787
Sept 11 or 1 - A bright fireball light like the sun was seen travelling horizontally through the sky at Edinburgh. It dropped a little, then rose again, bursting behind a cloud.
1786
Sept 2 - A bright ball of fire and light lasting 40 minutes was seen in the sky over southern England during a hurricane of wind.
1777
June 17 - French astronomer Charles Messier saw a number of dark round objects in the sky.
1762
Aug 9 - A huge spindle-shaped object was seen crossing the sun by two different observatories in Switzerland. It was observed by one astronomer nearly every day for a month.
1758
Nov 26 - A dazzling light as bright as day seen over Britain from Cambridge to Ross-shire. Velocity was an estimated 30 mps; height over Cambridge 95 miles; over Inverness 30 miles. It seemed to descend obliquely towards the earth, and then 'rose again with renewed splendour'.
1751
May 26 - A very fortean event listed as an iron meteorite recovered at Agram, Croatia. The vapoury cloud left by an aerial explosion at 18:30hrs was visible for an hour before it entirely dissipated. After the detonation took place, two masses of iron fell in the shape of chains welded together.
1733
Dec 8 - James Cracker of Fleet, a small town in Dorset, England, saw a silvery disc fly overhead in broad daylight. Here is his eyewitness account: "Something in the sky which appeared in the north but vanished from my sight, as it was intercepted by trees, from my vision. I was standing in a valley. The weather was warm, the sun shone brightly. All of a sudden it re-appeared, darting in and out of my sight with an amazing coruscation. The colour of this phenomenon was like burnished, or new-washed silver. It shot with speed like a star falling in the night. But it had a body much larger and a train longer than any shooting star I have seen. Next day Mr. Edgecombe informed me that he and another gentleman had seen this strange phenomenon at the same time as I had. It was about 15 miles from where I saw it, and steering a course from east to north." (See Mysteries of the Unexplained, Readers Digest, p 210.)
1718 or 1728
Mar 24 - A large fiery mass fell and exploded on the ground at 13:00hrs on Lethy Island in the East Indies. Subsequently a jelly-like mass, silvery and scaly, was said to have been found.
1686
July 19 - At Leipzig, Germany, a fiery ball of light was seen to travel E-W before hovering some seven minutes in the sky at an estimated altitude of 30 miles. It was about half the size of the moon and gradually vanished from view.
1663
Aug 15 - A fiery ball of light stopped over a lake at Robozero, Russia. The noisy object gave out blue smoke and two beams of light projected ahead of it. Fisherman on the lake were burned by the intense heat. The object disappeared and returned again about one hour later. It was observed by many groups of witnesses. (See UFOs from Behind the Iron Curtain, p 54)
1649
Sept 1 - A fireball which "moved in bounds up and down" was observed at Hamburg, Germany
1619
A prefect of a Swiss Canton saw a long, bright object flying along a lake near Fluelen.
1577
Aug 7 - Black spheres darting around the sky was seen by the inhabitants of Basel, in Switzerland.
1561
Apr 14 - The entire sky over Nuremberg, Germany was filled with cyclindrical objects and spinning discs, some say as many as 200, spouting numerous black, red and orange spheres.
1529
Two burning suns were seen at Erfurt, Prussia. Then a great 'burning beam' landed suddenly. It took off again into the sky, where it became circular in shape.
1517
Nov 8 - A large blue glowing disk appeared and remained in the sky for some time in Moldavia, Rumania.
1290
The Abbot and monks of Byland Abbey in Yorkshire were about to commence a meal when one of the brethren ran in to announce a great portent outside. They all ran outside and saw a large silver disc fly slowly over them.
1254
Jan 1 - Some monks at St Albans saw in the night sky 'a kind of large ship elegantly shaped and well-equipped and of marvellous colour'.
1211
A ship-like craft travelling through the air is reported to have fouled the tower of a church in Cloera, Ireland. An occupant clambered from the craft, down the rope and cut free the anchor.
919
An object like a flaming torch was seen in the sky, together with spheres which flew over Hungary giving out a brighter light than the stars. (cf. Ribera El gran enigma, p. 356 / Credit: UFOs from Behind the Iron Curtain)
840
An account by Abobard, Archbishop of Lyons, France, described how he was coming out of the Cathedral, when he saw a mob stoning three men and a woman alleged to have been seen alighting from a aerial ship.
776
When the Saxons were beseiging Charlemagne's castle at Sigiburg, "flying shields" reddish in color appeared in the sky and rained down fire on the attacking army.
747
Huge flame-breathing dragons were reported being seen in skies of China, often accompanied by men in airships.
664
A great light appeared in the sky at night and shone on a monastery at Barking near the Thames. Nuns who were singing in the burial-ground at the time saw it lift up and move to the other side of the monastery, 'then withdrew to the heights of heaven'. Priests said the light surpassed the brightness of day.
312
Constantine and his army all beheld in the heavens a luminous cross.
BC
9
Nine moons were seen in the night sky over the Japanese community of Kyushu.
12
A comet hung for several days over Rome then dissolved into flashes resembling torches.
73
As Roman legions were pitched against King Mithridates of Pontus near the Black Sea suddenly a huge flame-like body was seen to fall between the two armies. "In shape it was like a wine jar and in color like molten lead."
218
Around Rome glowing lamps were seen in the sky at Praeneste, a shield was observed at Arpi and in the Amiterno district, the appearance of men in white garments.
332
When the Greeks were beseiging Tyre a fleet of "flying shields" swooped down from the sky and crashed upon the city walls.
400
Blazing discs burned and destroyed an entire city along with its inhabitants, before returning to the hand of Vishnu, recorded the Mahabbarata of India.
1500
Circles of fire are said to have hovered over the Palace of Pharoah Thutmosis III. They eventually ascended and at the same time "fishes and winged creatures" plus other objects rained down from the sky.
2345
The Chinese Classic, Hsui-nan-tzu, chapter eight, describes the appearance of ten suns in the sky.
Not sure if this has any relevance, but here goes !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I5WSOseAvs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I5WSOseAvs&feature=related)
What did I say to the mindless gullible and dumb followers without questionning trolls?
I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES.
Not the opinion of another Zionist Billy Miers, or mindless copy and paste of texts and numbers
The sources of the lovely copy and paste of random made up fake testimonies and dates are from:
the UFO blible and the like and they are all parroting each others, NO OUTSIDE INDEPENDANT SOURCES FROM THE MYTH MAKERS...No identifiable sources, nothing, just pure made-up junk
UFOs are very active since the Pedophiles got the technologies from the Nazis, and it is now a daily occurence.
Prior to the 1950's they were no political agenda to fabricate testimonies, because they didnt have the technologies.
Micheal Aaron Coleman sounds very Kosher...
http://www.miqel.com/reading_library/archived_stories/dubious_ufo_report_list.html
Im really strating to believe that only a few UFO believers are real, the rest are all disinfo agent trying to avoid another "blame the jews" when the cataclysm that they didnt tell us about will hit...
Excellent Mike Rivero comments on the whole UFO scam!
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/us-military-pilots-national-press-club-%E2%80%93-ufo%E2%80%99s-deactivated-nukes#comments
Mike Rivero
The globalists must be in a real panic to try this stunt! But I guess now that Al Gore has failed to unite the planet against Carbon Dioxide, those who wish to rule the Earth (meaning to rule you) appear to have resurrected a plot line from the TV show "Outer Limits!" In an episode entitled "The Architects of Fear", which aired in 1963, a bunch of scientists create a phony alien visitor and alien spaceship with which to scare the people of planet Earth into abandoning nation-states and merging into a single planetary society.
The CIA, never one to pass up a really cool scifi idea, actually crafted a real plan to play such a hoax on the public, complete with phony UFOs!
The United Nations crafted a plan to bring about global government based on three hoaxes, the global financial melt-down, the "When Pigs Fly" Flu pandemic, and lastly, human-caused global warming. But the pandemic never materialized, we have had a very harsh winter as the Earth cools, plus exposure of the outright fraud of Climategate , and finally, the public realizes that government caused the current economic crisis, and has done nothing to lessen its impact on the general population, seeing the "noble" push for global government as just another excuse to loot the public and enrich themselves. With all three pillars of the foundation for global government showing rebar through the cracks, the globalists may be ready to try a hail-Mary pass to get their agenda back on course.
This it is that we see the above story, which was initially planted in Reuters' via a paid news release site. Once appearing under the Reuters' imprimatur, the story was picked up by other major newspapers, in the present case the Telegraph, and carried as straight news!
Adding further "credibility" to an already incredible story, the United Nations has appointed the first space ambassador to greet alien visitors from another world. This is the modern incarnation of the north American natives who ventured forth to greet Columbus and were promptly enslaved and sent back to Europe for their politeness.
For months now we have seen the so-called educational channels on TV flood the airwaves with nonsensical ravings about alien abduction and little green man with advanced technology and no clothing industry whatsoever who have traveled all this way to Earth slice up a few cows in the desert.
Do they really think the public is that gullible? After all, we did not fall for the flu scare, or the global warming scare, and knocking over the WTC did not galvanize fanatical public support for a century of unending war on the rest of the planet. Waving a space-scarecrow at us all may be the last card they have to play!
Like George Bush puppet statments at the UN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDmaB5BxzA
"UFOs are very active since the Pedophiles got the technologies from the Nazis, and it is now a daily occurrence."
I think pedophiles have better things to do then get UFO technology from the Nazis.
So, you believe that in our galaxy, which we are but a spec of dust, that we are the only lifeforms out there.(Notice I left out the word intelligent).
All of the UFO sitings are just a bunch of pedophiles riding around in Nazi UFO's abducting people. I guess if they only abducted children, you might have an argument.
"I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES."
So where is your proof that the UFO's are built by pedophiles using Nazi technologies?
I really don't think you will end the debate here. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 12:38:24 PM
UFO are a phenomenon observed since the 50's only.
Nowhere in older mythologies, histories and litteratures previous to the 1950's does our ancestors mentionned any observation whatsoever.
This doesn't even scratch the surface to all of the references found mentioning UFO's or aliens in ancient texts.
Genesis 6:4
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the
sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Genesis 5
22 And Enoch walked with God after he begot Methuselah three hundred years, and begot sons and daughters. 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years. 24
And Enoch walked with God, and he was not; for God took him.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 7
1 It happened after the sons of men had multiplied in those days, that daughters were born to them, elegant and beautiful. 2 And when the
angels,the sons of heaven, beheld them, they became enamoured of them, saying to each other, Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men, and let us beget children. 3 Then their leader Samyaza said to them; I fear that you may perhaps be indisposed to the performance of this enterprise; 4 And that I alone shall suffer for so grievous a crime. 5 But they answered him and said; We all swear; 6 And bind ourselves by mutual execrations, that we will not change our intention, but execute our projected undertaking. 7 Then they swore all together, and all bound themselves by mutual execrations. Their whole number was two hundred, who descended upon Ardis,which is the top of mount Armon. 8 That mountain therefore was called Armon, because they had sworn upon it, and bound themselves by mutual execrations. 9 These are the names of their chiefs: Samyaza, who was their leader, Urakabarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Azkeel, Saraknyal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anane, Zavebe, Samsaveel, Ertael, Turel, Yomyael, Arazyal. These were the prefects of the two hundred angels, and the remainder were all with them. 10
Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees. 11 And the
women conceiving brought forth giants, 12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them; 13 When they turned themselves against men, in order to devour them; 14 And began to injure birds, beasts, reptiles, and fishes, to eat their flesh one after another, and to drink their blood. 15Then the earth reproved the unrighteous.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 10
13To Gabriel also the Lord said, Go to the biters, (13) to the reprobates, to the children of fornication; and destroy the children of fornication,
the offspring of the Watchers, from among men; bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 12
1Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened. 2He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days. 3I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace. 4And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe. 5Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the
Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women. 6And have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth; 7That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition for ever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 13
1Then Enoch, passing on, said to Azazyel: You shalt not obtain peace. A great sentence is gone forth against you. He shall bind you; 2Neither shall relief, mercy, and supplication be yours, on account of the oppression which you have taught; 3And on account of every act of blasphemy, tyranny, and sin, which you have discovered to the children of men. 4Then departing from him I spoke to them all together; 5And they all became terrified, and trembled; 6Beseeching me to write for them a memorial of supplication, that they might obtain forgiveness; and that I might make the memorial of their prayer ascend up before the God of heaven; because they could not themselves thenceforwards address him, nor raise up their eyes to heaven on account of the disgraceful offence for which they were judged.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 39
1In those days shall the elect and holy race descend from the upper heavens, and their seed shall then be with the sons of men. Enoch received books of indignation and wrath, and books of hurry and agitation. 2Never shall they obtain mercy, saith the Lord of spirits. 3
A cloud then snatched me up, and the wind raised me above the surface of the earth, placing me at the extremity of the heavens.Jude 1:6
6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Hebrews 13:2
Do not forget to
entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.
2 Kings 2:11-12
11: And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold,
there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder;
and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12: And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof.
And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Exodus 14:19
Then the angel of God, who had been traveling in front of Israel's army, withdrew and went behind them. The
pillar of cloud also moved from in front and stood behind them,
Acts 10:9-16
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11
And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16 This was done thrice:
and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
Ezekiel 1:1-28
1Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. 2In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin’s captivity, 3The word of the LORD came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him. 4And I looked, and, behold, a
whirlwind came out of the north, a
great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. 5
Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. 6And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings. 7And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf’s foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass. 8And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings. 9Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward. 10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. 11Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies. 12And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went. 13
As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. 14And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning. 15Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. 16The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel. 17When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went. 18As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four. 19And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them:
and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up. 20
Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. 21When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; a
nd when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 22And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. 23And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies. 24And when they went,
I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings. 25And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.26And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. 27And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
The Bible is describing visions, dreams and prophecies. It is mostly a code of the Zodiac for the announcement of Cataclysms.
Volcanic eruptions are described with great metaphoric words, as well of Earthquakes
Watcher of Heavens are Astronomers, those were the real priest behind older religion.
Zodia methaphores are everywhere in the older religion and it is the coded secret of Moses.
When you actually associate the Eagle-Ox-Lion-Angle to the royal stars.
Ghost, Angels and Demons are well established facts in all religions.
No they dont come on spaceships and no they didnt do cropcircles in those days
Only now people are religiously confuse enaugh to believe the Clowns who are hatefull enaught of humanity to come up with something like that, the Pharisees of course.
Only a braindead lunatic will confused that to a belief he might had that funny little green muppets are walking amongs us, because a Zionist Jew somewhere in Switzerland made some drawings.
Gravityblock has it. There has never been any debate about it. Ezekiels wheel is also the first machine recorded. Look at its sophistication.
LOL its the Zodiac Wheel dummy, that what Ezekiel is describing.
This is what the Heavens Watcher were, Astronomers
Angels/12 tribes/12 apostles are the Zodiac division
Dont forget they had the sky (Heavens) Shinning with angels all night and 4 of them were planets
Saturn takes 30 years to move one Zodiac sign, so it was not considered a planet for the common people
Jacob Ladder is a Gnomon to calculate the Sun elevation for the prediction of God Jugment...
Wake the heck up
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 03:52:34 AM
I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES.
But what you said in the below quote is against the above quote. LOL
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 12:38:24 PM
Nowhere in older mythologies, histories and litteratures previous to the 1950's does our ancestors mentionned any observation whatsoever.
MrMag and Bulbz is right on the money.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 10:26:18 AM
This is what the Heavens Watcher were, Astronomers
The Watcher's mentioned in the Book of Enoch does not refer to astronomers, LOL.
GB
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 10:04:29 AM
The Bible is describing visions, dreams and prophecies.
The references I provided do not describe visions, dreams, or prophecies. I intentionally screened those out in my small list.
GB
Quote from: gravityblock on September 28, 2010, 11:06:23 AM
The Watcher's mentioned in the Book of Enoch does not refer to astronomers, LOL.
GB
What does the Heaven Watchers refers to? The little green aliens that visits you in your bed at night?
Astronomer were the Priest of older religions.
I know its your pathetic existence who just hit the wall of truth, you gonna have to believe in another scam now
Nevertheless these hints are interesting. Something fuzzy was going on in the past, and maybe the origin of mankind was influenced by a technological more advanced civilisation. It's an annoying matter however since we hardly get to know all the facts. All we can do is guess, believe myths, investigate ourselves or ignore it.
Other example: There were some headlines years ago about newly found huge chambers in the pyramids, but no reports followed on what has been found in there. It's just annoying that such important information is withheld from the public. Sometimes I wished I had studied ancient history and archaeology to have access permission myself...
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 11:20:19 AM
What does the Heaven Watchers refers to? The little green aliens that visits you in your bed at night?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 04:39:06 PM
Please list 3 of the "too many to list them all" sources for your inhabitant from other planet who visit you at night.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 02:15:37 PM
Tell us more about the inhabitant of other planets who visit you in your bed at night...
You seem to know a reprobate mystery just like the fallen ones who abandoned the heavens to have intercourse with the daughters of men which produced an impious offspring,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVgnvt1YaDcDefinition of reprobate:
1. A morally unprincipled person.
2. One who is predestined to damnation.
3. Morally unprincipled; shameless.
4. Rejected by God and without hope of salvation.
5. To disapprove of; condemn.
6. To abandon to eternal damnation. Used of God.
Genesis 6:4
4There were
giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same
became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 12
1Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened.
2He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days.
3I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace.
4And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe.
5Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women.
6And have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth;
7That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition for ever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
GB
Quote from: gauschor on September 28, 2010, 12:18:30 PM
Nevertheless these hints are interesting. Something fuzzy was going on in the past, and maybe the origin of mankind was influenced by a technological more advanced civilisation. It's an annoying matter however since we hardly get to know all the facts. All we can do is guess, believe myths, investigate ourselves or ignore it.
Assuming that after the astronomical cycle of Destruction that mark the passing of the ages, some technologies developped by our fore-fathers were destroyed and lost like some species couldnt survived the massive volcanic eruptions and flooding.
The Bronze Age, the Iron Age, all surviving pedophile Elites gather Gold and thecnologies for themself but some were lost and destroyed, the middle age is an example of going back into darkness...
So yes I believe our ancestor were free of foreign domination and cartels to devellop freely technologies to advance humanity.
Sadly those who knew how to read Venus and the stars to predict a major Earth pole reversal cataclysm didnt told the good people of ancient times, so their technologies and great ideas were destroyed by 300 feet wall of Sea water, or under 5 foot of volcanic ashes.
The UFO scam is just a theatrical scam to avoid another "Blame the jews" scenario that the previous Ages did
and will be used to set up the next religion bases for the lucky survivers who will be slaves to the same pedophiles elites.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 12:41:26 PM
Assuming that after the astronomical cycle of Destruction that mark the passing of the ages, some technologies developped by our fore-fathers were destroyed and lost like some species couldnt survived the massive volcanic eruptions and flooding.
So yes I believe our ancestor were free of foreign domination and cartels to devellop freely technologies to advance humanity.
So, our forefathers and ancestors were freely able to develop technology which was destroyed and lost, but yet they had no electricity according to your below post? LOL
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 12:38:24 PM
It is impossible for our ancestors who live without electricity, to have never notice visitation of flying craft!
Quote from: gravityblock on September 28, 2010, 12:40:25 PM
Book of Enoch, Chapter 12
1Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened. 2He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days. 3I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace. 4And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe. 5Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women. 6And have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth; 7That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition for ever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
GB
This is exactly like the Pedophiles Priest scandal, the Heaven Watcher (Astronomer) the Priest guild of Enoch time, left their study of the Sky fled their holy duty and got polluted by LUST, GREED and PRIDE.
Those "Elect" astronomers lost their way, and lost the secret knowledge of predicting the Astronomical Cataclysm of the Ages and will not obtain mercy and peace.
Where is your little green Alien in this story?
Thats right in your bed at night
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 06:16:28 AM
You have FAITH because you are incapable to think for yourself and you need some Pedophiles Fraud to tell you how to think...
I believe you are just a few paid desinfo trolls who spend your days on multitude of Forums with multitude of Avatar to attack the Truth when it shows up.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 04:39:06 PM
you are more and more exposing yourself as an disinfo agent
Are you Jewish?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 27, 2010, 04:40:55 AM
Are you a Pharisee who once again is blinding millions to a sure death?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 04:23:04 AM
Tell us more about your parroting belief of refraction due to AGW my little Zion troll
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 03:52:34 AM
What did I say to the mindless gullible and dumb followers without questionning trolls?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 26, 2010, 02:18:46 PM
So the clown who measured it last month probably is another of the "paid per line" internet troll
Quote from: Atlastired on September 26, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
Are you paroting someone? Are you paid to say that?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 26, 2010, 06:37:36 AM
Today we have the same Pharisees telling us that everything is fine and to stay put and die, they are using Disinfo, Controled Sciences, Controled Media and they even chemtrailing the horizon for us not to notice anything...
I think everybody knows who the real troll and disinformation agent is. It's You!
I strongly suggest you abandon your current screen name of Atlastired, and create you another user name because you have lost all credibility. Try not to be so obvious you are a troll and disinfo agent with your new user name.
Only 36 posts from you and nothing but garbage.
GB
He should also look into that pedophile phobia that he has. It sort of raises a flag.
Lets go back to the topic, you are claiming that your are incapable to read the Bible without going into basic idolatry of little Green molestors...
Dont troll this topic into a personal one, this is not about me exposing you, its about you exposing your gullability
We are still waiting for you the proof that your little friends existed prior to 1950s
Quote from: gravityblock on September 28, 2010, 12:40:25 PM
Genesis 6:4
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Book of Enoch, Chapter 12
1Before all these things Enoch was concealed; nor did any one of the sons of men know where he was concealed, where he had been, and what had happened. 2He was wholly engaged with the holy ones, and with the Watchers in his days. 3I, Enoch, was blessing the great Lord and King of peace. 4And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe. 5Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station, who have been polluted with women. 6And have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth; 7That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition for ever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace.
GB
This is exactly like the Pedophiles Priest scandal, the Heaven Watcher (Astronomer) the Priest guild of Enoch time, left their study of the Sky, fled their holy duty and got polluted by LUST, GREED and PRIDE.
Those "Elect" astronomers lost their way, and lost the secret knowledge of predicting the Astronomical Cataclysm of the Ages and will not obtain mercy and peace.
Where is your little green Alien in this story?
Thats right in your bed at night
QuoteLOL its the Zodiac Wheel dummy, that what Ezekiel is describing
Im the dummy! Thats not the description put forth at all.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 03:52:34 AM
What did I say to the mindless gullible and dumb followers without questionning trolls?
I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES.
Not the opinion of another Zionist Billy Miers, or mindless copy and paste of texts and numbers...
Atlastired, do you believe in God's existence? If you do, then please, post verifiable testimonies and evidences that it exists.
Or, maybe you dont believe in God's existence? So, again, please, post verifiable testimonies and evidences that God does not exist.
Quote from: Qwert on September 28, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
Atlastired, do you believe in God's existence? If you do, then please, post verifiable testimonies and evidences that it exists.
Or, maybe you dont believe in God's existence? So, again, please, post verifiable testimonies and evidences that God does not exist.
Valid point, but off topic.
This is in response to a list of dates and related sightings spread about on the same junk websites, where there is no details whatsoever for an independant researcher to doublecheck the heresy.
It is in fact calling to your Faith in the people who vehicule them, people like Zionist Billy Meier and the mind crontrol slaves out of CIA experiments.
PS: I hope you dont compare the little green aliens in GB fantaisies to G_d I hope?
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 04:50:26 PM
...PS: I hope you dont compare the little green aliens in GB fantaisies to G_d I hope?
Why not?
This is exactly what i was saying, they are making it a religion.
After steeling the Nazi anti-gravity technologies the OSS (Ancestor of the CIA) seat of the secret goverment will now
commit mass genocide under the cover of Alien Invasions....
Now gullible folks, and pedophiles agents will spread the Worship of the people behing WW2 as our new GODS and GODDESSES
Just because they have hiding some technologies from us and imposed on us the tyrany of the "Jewish Fraud" Relativity of Einstein stoping us from any real discoveries.
So worshipping Man is not in my menu thank you.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 28, 2010, 03:52:34 AM
What did I say to the mindless gullible and dumb followers without questionning trolls?
I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES.
Not the opinion of another Zionist Billy Miers, or mindless copy and paste of texts and numbers
The sources of the lovely copy and paste of random made up fake testimonies and dates are from:
the UFO blible and the like and they are all parroting each others, NO OUTSIDE INDEPENDANT SOURCES FROM THE MYTH MAKERS...No identifiable sources, nothing, just pure made-up junk
UFOs are very active since the Pedophiles got the technologies from the Nazis, and it is now a daily occurence.
Prior to the 1950's they were no political agenda to fabricate testimonies, because they didnt have the technologies.
Micheal Aaron Coleman sounds very Kosher...
http://www.miqel.com/reading_library/archived_stories/dubious_ufo_report_list.html
Im really strating to believe that only a few UFO believers are real, the rest are all disinfo agent trying to avoid another "blame the jews" when the cataclysm that they didnt tell us about will hit...
Well if that's the attitude I'm going to get for just trying to help then go fuck yourself. Looks like you're going to be very popular on here, NOT. Fucking NOOB !
It seems very apparent to me that Atlastired is simply a forum troll. No matter what is presented he/she does not see any merit what so ever and will keep to his/her narrow view on the topic, even results to insults.
Internet Troll definition
"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". ......."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
This forum is about over unity.... I fail to see how bringing up a UFO argument is at all helpful. Especially since you have already made your mind up before starting the thread and have no intention of changing your mind.
No doubt you will go to your troll like state and rebel against my post, go ahead, prove me right.
Pete
Atlastired. The "Jewish Fraud" notion, isn't that your religion?
Quote from: Poit on September 29, 2010, 08:06:47 AM
I fail to see how bringing up a UFO argument is at all helpful.
UFO is believed to have an unknown method of propulsion, which is of interest of this forum.
Quote from: Qwert on September 29, 2010, 09:20:35 AM
Atlastired. The "Jewish Fraud" notion, isn't that your religion?
UFO is believed to have an unknown method of propulsion, which is of interest of this forum.
Ok, I stand corrected. But how is proving the existence of UFO's true or false going to help anyone build a propulsion method?
Quote from: Poit on September 29, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Ok, I stand corrected. But how is proving the existence of UFO's true or false going to help anyone build a propulsion method?
We've got to catch one.
Quote from: Qwert on September 29, 2010, 02:26:22 PM
We've got to catch one.
Maybe try a fishing net? LOL
Jokes aside, I do believe in UFO's. The evidence is overwhelming. Most people that don't believe will quote hoaxes and such... you can have 1000 hoaxes, and 1 real case for the whole phenomenon to be real. Take crop circles, people don't believe it because two idiots claimed to have created some, I believe they did create some, so what? I can swim (pretty bad mind you) is this evidence that there can't be any good swimmers? haha
Quote from: Poit on September 29, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
Maybe try a fishing net? LOL
Jokes aside, I do believe in UFO's. The evidence is overwhelming. Most people that don't believe will quote hoaxes and such... you can have 1000 hoaxes, and 1 real case for the whole phenomenon to be real. Take crop circles, people don't believe it because two idiots claimed to have created some, I believe they did create some, so what? I can swim (pretty bad mind you) is this evidence that there can't be any good swimmers? haha
Those are some very valid points ;)
I know this will seem strange to some of you, but think about the UFO/time correlation for a moment. If one can control time, does that imply control over anything else? Essentially, the First to control time could exercise Authority over all He surveyed. The God of the Holy Bible declares Himself to be the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. He's BEEN THERE. Knowing the best (and worst) beginnings and endings of all He surveyed. One could engineer worlds, galaxies and beyond. Why would such a Being wish to permit a lasting threat to the Perfect Order He worked so very long to establish? If man were to obtain the technology to speed along at multiples of 'C', what seeds of havoc and rebellion might he bring with him into the cosmos? And if a culture were to approach this condition, what should be done, and by Whom?
The bible reveals that, after war in Heaven, the fallen one and his cohorts are thrown down to Earth's vicinity, knowing they have but a short time to convince the world powers to side with them and prepare for war with the Almighty. God's Word reveals that the 'beast' would take dominion over the air, ascending to the heavens, controlling the weather to an extent. Even seek to "change times and seasons". Read the following and see if the wisdom contained therein is something you, dear reader, wish to understand and appreciate:
http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm
Truly, the alternative to obeying our Father's Word and appreciating His perfect Authority in Christ Yeshua, Who went through hell (literally) to teach us everlasting Right from temporary wrong.....Is a fleeting adventure in rebelliousness, doing as "thout wilt", chaos and death.
The wisdom of men is foolishness to God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus christ
There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." Luke 21:25-28
Quote from: TechStuf on September 29, 2010, 07:43:47 PM
I know this will seem strange to some of you, but think about the UFO/time correlation for a moment. If one can control time, does that imply control over anything else? Essentially, the First to control time could exercise Authority over all He surveyed. The God of the Holy Bible declares Himself to be the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. He's BEEN THERE. Knowing the best (and worst) beginnings and endings of all He surveyed. One could engineer worlds, galaxies and beyond. Why would such a Being wish to permit a lasting threat to the Perfect Order He worked so very long to establish? If man were to obtain the technology to speed along at multiples of 'C', what seeds of havoc and rebellion might he bring with him into the cosmos? And if a culture were to approach this condition, what should be done, and by Whom?
you seem to be saying that you know for sure that travelling at speeds of multiples of 'C' bestows the ability to control time. i know you are going to refer me to einstein, but this whole idea of time stopping when reaching the speed of 'C' is largely untested. as is the idea of travelling back in time by speeds larger than 'C'...
do you have any data to back this up or is this faith based like the imaginary godfairy you mentioned?
Why, mr. inebriated, should I refer you to einstein? Whatever truths he managed to see, such glimpses were bestowed from his position after climbing upon the shoulders of those taller than he. No, what I will do is refer you to the following definition, originally posted higher in the thread by Poit.
Quote"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[2] In addition to the offending poster, the noun troll can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in "that was an excellent troll you posted". ......."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Why should you waste critical thought processes on controlling time when you cannot even control your tongue?
Go play somewhere else.
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
Quote from: TechStuf on September 29, 2010, 09:40:40 PM
Why, mr. inebriated, should I refer you to einstein? Whatever truths he managed to see, such glimpses were bestowed from his position after climbing upon the shoulders of those taller than he. No, what I will do is refer you to the following definition, originally posted higher in the thread by Poit.
Why should you waste critical thought processes on controlling time when you cannot even control your tongue?
Go play somewhere else.
Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
so that's a no then. you have nothing of substance, just flights of fancy...
Time is the result of the force that impels a body through space. The greater the force the shorter the time, and the shorter also the space to be traversed. Thus, if the force were infinitely great, time and space would be infinitely small, they would cease to exist.
We need to see whether a theory corresponds with the method Nature uses. We can advance a thousand rational hypotheses, whereas Nature makes use of only one, rejecting the other, however rational they may be, or again it may not even make use of any of them.
Relativity contains certain erroneous elements which in themselves can be called rational, but which Nature, according to the view of Sir James Jeans, appears to disregard. For example, it is an accepted mechanical theory that if two rays move in the same direction at the same speed, their velocity in relation to one another is nil, but if they move in opposite directions, the velocity of the one in relation to the other is 2V. However, in order to cope with certain difficulties in his system, Einstein affirmed that whether the rays move in one direction or another, the velocity between them is always V. It is not necessary to have much imagination to see that this principle is false.
In order to justify this fallacy, Einstein invented another greater one. He attributed a space and a time appropriate to each moving body, according to its speed. But as one error leads mankind to another greater one, he had now to produce a third idea in order to justify the second. He then set confines to the Universe, marking out a particular space for us. But Nature disregards imaginary enclosures, and our desire that the Universe should conform to our particular points of view, as well as our carefully thought out ideas. Throughout she behaves as though she were ignorant of Hamilton's calculus and the importance which people attach to formulas.
In short, you can see that the frontiers proposed by Einstein were too narrow to contain what is by nature infinite. Space is indivisible and time is non-existent. The latter is merely a convention based on the movement of the stars. It is merely an effect. If the movement of a body, or the acceleration of a mass, is due to force, time is then an effect of the force and the latter' is the cause. But if the force varies and is consumed, time will vary accordingly. Now, as space is a constant, it is difficult to imagine how you could create a time/space constant, let alone regard it as a dimension in itself. This is an example of Nature disregarding these things. If one multiplies two dimensions one gets the area. If one multiplies area by height, one gets the volume. Now, if one multiplies this volume by a fourth dimension, one only gets nonsense.
In space, a body does not travel in four, three, two, or one dimension, because space, being infinite, has no dimensions whatsoever. We can, at the most, say that a body obeys a direction of stress when it moves from point A to point B. Up to a point Einstein was right in saying that a moving body in space has its own time, because when one leaves the Earth there is a change in what is conventionally known as terrestrial time; but basically he was wrong. Time is based on the period a moving body takes to return to its point of departure, and is thus the result of a circular movement.
He made a further mistake when he assumed that every moving body created a space of its own and peculiar to itself. The precession of Mercury's perihelion, which gave rise to this theory, is due to the planet's proximity to the Sun. As it moves closer to the Sun, it receives more light, rotates more rapidly and moves through space with greater speed.
GB
Quoteflights of fancy
You got Flights and Fancy correct.
Who knew. But then, they say that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
TS
Quote from: TechStuf on September 30, 2010, 01:43:29 AM
You got Flights and Fancy correct.
Who knew. But then, they say that even a broken clock is right twice a day.
TS
maybe so but its still a paper wieght.
Quotemaybe so but its still a paper wieght.
Unless it's an outdated sun dial, but that's a face of a different color.
Blessings,
TS
LOL you cant accuse me of trolling my own topic LOL
Nice try, LOL
Lets go back to the meat, I have stated, based on thousands of evidences and testimonies that:
Prior to 1950's There were no UFO's/Alien Abductions phenomenas/Crop circles observed anywhere.
Some tried to post some spam of dates from Alien abductees website, and another is showing his deep handicap at reading the Bible.
That Germans in WW2 decided to stop trusting popular science on advice of Philipp Lenard: "Germany should rely on "Deutsche Physik" and ignore what he considered the fallacious and deliberately misleading ideas of "Jewish physics", by which he meant chiefly the theories of Albert Einstein, including "the Jewish fraud" of relativity"
Germany now free to explore Real Science discovered anti-gravity and started experiments like the Nazi Bell Experiment.
The OSS/CIA and the PsyOp Department of the Allies captured the technology of Anti-gravity and since its reproduction in the US, Thousands of witnesses started to show up.
The secret Goverment consolidated from the WW2 victory, Kept and developped the UFOs technologies for themself and inforced the "Jewish Fraud" relativity on us civilians.
Now that a predictable astronomical cataclysm is coming into view, the way to avoid another "Blame the Jews for not telling us" was to set up an Alien Invasion prior or after the cataclysm with the use of Mass media and German "Real" Physic research on anti-gravity.
Preparing the gullible mass with "I killed a grey" Phil Shnider totally grotesque and unsupported testimony, a good friend of Rabbi Zionist Billy Meier who you cant listen without laughting how the guy can keep a straight face, he must be that hatefull of humanity to pull something like that, thus my comparison to Pedophiles.
They are simply setting the base for the next Age of slavery with a new religion where the Aliens will demand more and more tribute or they will fry us again....
Good we are back on topic!
As we can note here, the creators of "Jewish physics" can be very perfidious. So, here is my advice to Atlastired: you better check your roots...
The roots...
The Hyksos were a tribe who could predict the time, like Moses of the Astronomical Cataclysm, and few days after the complete Chaos that Venus created in the Land of Egypt, the Hyksos came fully prepared for an invasion and the mighty Pharaon offered no fight at all.
The Hyksos were ruthless, savage and the worst enemy of humanity. Finaly the Egyptiens revolted againts them and they used them as slaves.
Next came Moses who, like the Hyksos used the predictable Astronomical Cataclysm to free the Hebrews.
Are those 2 share the same roots? Hyksos and Hebrews? Many are conviced
But the modern Hyksos are Aliens from another planet, and they will predict the cataclysm to enslave the good people
Roots, we should have learn from them.
Quote from: Atlastired on September 30, 2010, 05:11:39 AM
Lets go back to the meat, I have stated, based on thousands of evidences and testimonies that:
Prior to 1950's There were no UFO's/Alien Abductions phenomenas/Crop circles observed anywhere.
<Official Government Resource> (https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/97unclass/ufo.html)
Quote from: CIA Website
The idea that CIA has secretly concealed its research into UFOs has been a major theme of UFO buffs since the modern UFO phenomena emerged in the late 1940s.
Quote from: CIA Website
The first report of a "flying saucer" over the United States came on 24 June 1947, when Kenneth Arnold, a private pilot and reputable businessman, while looking for a downed plane sighted nine disk-shaped objects near Mt. Rainier, Washington, traveling at an estimated speed of over 1,000 mph. Arnold's report was followed by a flood of additional sightings, including reports from military and civilian pilots and air traffic controllers all over the United States.
Conclusion: You're wrong... That is all
Quote from: Atlastired on October 01, 2010, 05:20:45 AM
...But the modern Hyksos are Aliens from another planet, and they will predict the cataclysm to enslave the good people...
How does it come, that someone believes one half-truth against another half-truth? I would rather believed (or not believed) both.
Quote from: Atlastired on October 01, 2010, 05:20:45 AM
The roots...
The Hyksos were a tribe who could predict the time, like Moses of the Astronomical Cataclysm, and few days after the complete Chaos that Venus created in the Land of Egypt, the Hyksos came fully prepared for an invasion and the mighty Pharaon offered no fight at all.
The Hyksos were ruthless, savage and the worst enemy of humanity. Finaly the Egyptiens revolted againts them and they used them as slaves.
Next came Moses who, like the Hyksos used the predictable Astronomical Cataclysm to free the Hebrews.
Are those 2 share the same roots? Hyksos and Hebrews? Many are conviced
But the modern Hyksos are Aliens from another planet, and they will predict the cataclysm to enslave the good people
Roots, we should have learn from them.
"What did I say to the mindless gullible and dumb followers without questionning trolls?
I SAID TO POST VERIFIABLE TESTIMONIES AND EVIDENCES."
I guess it's only true if you say it.