Quote from: CRANKYpants on June 03, 2008, 07:28:14 PM

LARRY COME QUICK !!!!
A22 IS DRINKING OU KOOLAID !!!
AND ITS INDUCING VOMITTING IN ME !!!!

Since you have not been in physical contact with A22, the only possible explanation is that your nausea is being induced through the aether. You may be able to isolate yourself from it if you sit on top of a long PVC pole. Larry should take the same precaution.

Quote from: aether22 on June 03, 2008, 07:05:52 PM
There should be some effort into running a generator rotor (with stators absent) with just a few watts not pretty close to 200w as it currently is.   If that is done making it OU could be very easy!

How about an experiment along the lines of what you suggested earlier? Use the motor only to get the rotor up to speed. Then release it (physically, need some kind of clutch mechanism) and observe the rate of deceleration of the rotor under various coil conditions. This removes the unknown variable of the base motor power altogether and so should clearly reveal the relative power added or subtracted by the generator. To demonstrate OU, all you need to do is find a coil condition that decelerates less than the base (no-coils) condition, using a measurement system that brings the measurements well clear of any margin for error. There can be no argument with a clear demonstration like that and there is virtually no additional cost to set it up.

Tempted to bid on that Variac.

But we don't want a bidding war between list members so if Thane wants it I won't, but it's a deal.

Although shipping to NZ might push the price up that is a mighty cheap and powerful autotransformer.

Quote from: aether22 on June 03, 2008, 11:50:34 PM
Tempted to bid on that Variac.

But we don't want a bidding war between list members so if Thane wants it I won't, but it's a deal.

Although shipping to NZ might push the price up that is a mighty cheap and powerful autotransformer.

Aether twotwo, I thought that myself.. wouldn't it be funny if everyone bid on it? not funny at all...

No, the problem with ebog is the price seems right, then just as it expires all the automatic bidding
programs kick in and it goes sky high... should be a law

Then the cost of shipping equals the final bid...

Ron

For some reason the talk about Variac's got me thinking about oscilloscopes, and induced me to check that mine was in good health (not a thing you use every day) and it is.

So some time, although probably not immediately, I plan on putting a 1 ohm or so resistor across the HV coils so I know the phase of the current and with it the magnetic field it produces.

And with the other channel look at the position of the rotor, to verify that it is indeed lagging and producing some Lenz effect.
But I have not thought of a good way to detect alignment between the rotor magnet and the core, if anyone has a good idea speak up

Hmmm, scratch that, I can use the optical based home made tach for the rotor position channel.

Though I have to get the new rotor constructed first....


Addition:

I very much prefer to get experiment lists completed before I am ready to do the experiments because once I get to that point my imagination dies, and I feel like this black guy I saw on TV once who had just won some mega lottery and suddenly has no clue what to do with his new found (financial) ability.

Optical Tach and HV coil resistor on scope experiment to determine magnetic phase or stator to rotor.

Deceleration v2 (better rotor and stator interface may clarify results)

HC coil induction increase. (THANE, HOW DID YOU MEASURE THE INCREASED INDUCTION? WAS IT OPEN CIRCUIT VOLTAGE, CLOSED CIRCUIT CURRENT OR BULB LOADED POWER?  I'M LAZY TOO ONLY NOT SO MUCH WITH TYPING BUT EXPERIMENTS)

Surrogate (3 versions: external coil, motor and full and the subsequent series of tests if results are positive)  <Most important test IF they work!

Pulley isolation of drive motor.

Rotor loading (reducing power consumed in basic rotation of rotor with and without stators to make OU easier)

Comparison of HV and HC coils ability to generate X watts and the loading on the motor that entails

Torque sensor, or measuring reaction torque on motor housing. (to verify Vince's results)

Testing alternate motor types to drive the generator. (including possibly an ICE?)

Additional rotor test, basically make an HC rotor and stator and an HV coil rotor and stator (the HC can be a normal DC motor/gen), if it runs better with the HV rotor present than absent then try 2 HV's to see if that is better yet.

Trials of Satan!  Try JS's mechanical load test to see if a given load (maybe shorting HC coils) creates less increased current draw when run at the same RPM with and without HV coils brutally empowering the rotation.

Finally various aetheric based test which are not going to be high on the list until the results I am getting truly indicate aetheric operation, though Vine's and Thanes tests have suggested aetheric operation mine have so far been more ambiguous at best.

Many of these tests could become redundant based on results of other tests in the list.