Quote from: goldenequity on July 06, 2008, 01:43:28 PM
@ bumfuzzled
Good point......ATDC might be safe for the waste spark... depending on the "length" (duration in time) of the plasma (white) vs.normal (blue) spark.
But you wouldn't get a "back" fire (still burning fuel/air coming out of the tail pipe on the exhaust stroke).....
You'd get a "front" fire coming back up through the carburetor.  Be careful out there, should you start introducing
HHO into the intake (along with water)...... as a waste spark "front" fire will certainly test your spark arrestor / bubbler setup.

That's what we call a backfire because it's firing backwards thru the carb instead of forward thru the exhaust like it would normally do. We're on the same page tho, it's all good.  I decided not to rest today so off I go to see if it'll run!

Hi everyone

User name: Jetijs of the Energetic forum has a great replication with quite a large spark gap, the largest I've seen so far.

His video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSTu5eiZ98Q

Back to the garage.

Luc

Quote from: gotoluc on July 06, 2008, 01:57:08 PM
Thanks for your good point but I'm hoping the 10" inch pulley and belt system to the electric starting motor and the electric motor rotor itself will do the job to keep a good balance. I had read somewhere that an induction motor can be used as a generator once it is turned by another source.

I wonder if this would classify for the Overunity prize if it start the motor on water and then use the starter induction motor to outputs power

Please note that that is meant to be a joke.

Luc

Luc

Yes I have read  that a  standard  induction motor  will work as a generator  It can put out   about as much  power as it  would use  to run it .       
........ the   motor  should act  as a  LARGE  flywheel  sense it  also is being powered .  ..........



Assuming  you  get   your motor  to run  .........  your  system is  not  exactly  over unity  because  you  are using  a kind of fuel ......
HOWEVER ......... the exhaust  WILL  condense  into  water .   If  you set up  a  large  enough   cooling  loop ........it should   be able to run closed  loop .......... if you  are recycling  all your fuel  and producing  energy  there is no  question that you  are over unity       Running  closed loop  would also  put an and to any  possible   talk about any kind of pollution  from the  combustion  process


gary

Hi everyone.

Several pages back in this forum a couple of people mentioned the peculiar thunking noise of the exhaust from s1r9a9m9 (mars 1999) small water engine.

I've heard this exhaust noise before but spent a couple of days thinking about what engines I've heard it from and what they have in common. One engine I can remember that made this noise was an engine off of a Honda 3-wheeler 110cc. I put it on a go-kart several years ago. It was locked up when I got it so I honed the rust out of the cylinder and just put it back together. Low compression but it ran. At a slow idle it made that type of exhaust noise. Old John Deere tractors (Johnnie Poppers) make the same type of exhaust noise at slow idle. They are also fairly low compression. These two engines also have fairly massive flywheels. The piston and rod impart almost all of their energy after combustion to the crankshaft and flywheel before the piston is finished moving down the cylinder sleeve. The piston is pulled down the rest of the way by the flywheel momentum. This creates a vacuum thunking noise when the exhaust valve opens. If this engine truly will run on water alone I'm speculating that the compression (explosion) taking place is very short lived. Since I am on the road and away from my shop, this is what my next plans are if anyone wants to try them.

1. Lower the compression ratio by making a spacer between the head and cylinder block.
2. Remove the carbureuter and intake and block off the intake port with a plate. Tap and drill the plate
    for two metal tube lines with needle valves for each line. Use one for air adjustment and the other to
    suck water from a container.
3. Attach a massive flywheel to the crankshaft.

That's all I can think of for now.
Good luck    God's speed
Mike

@goldenequity

You're absolutely right sir. It does result in two sparks for every one power stroke. Two complete revolutions of the crankshaft equals only one power stroke of the piston. I've thought about what you said and it is possible by changing the timing by up to 60 degrees to get into a condition where it is firing when you don't want it. I guess I have two choices- make a two-to-one geared points distributor or try it as is. I'm not too scared of a popback though because it is water. I've lost my eyelashes and eyebrows several times due to gasoline popbacks. The only thing is I don't know if it could be doing a small unnoticed popback robbing energy from the power stroke.Thanks for your insights.

Mike