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Overunity Machines Forum



URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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TheOne

Quote from: resonanceman on July 07, 2008, 07:23:03 PM
Chris

They   look good .
They  don't  list  their  prices on their website
Do you mind  telling us  how  much they  charged you?

They  don;t say  they have resistors ......but there is  what  they call a pressure seal ......or something like that.
They say it is   made of  carbon and  glass fiber .  .........I wonder  if   they have a non  resistor version . 
IF  so  it could  be a  big help here.

.   
gary

They are custom made using other plug, they sell it 20$ each, In my opinion the pulstar plug are yeah better.

I asked to pulstar if they plan to upgadre there plug with firestorm, see the reply

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There is a reason all  current sophisticated engine platforms use a fine wire electrode. This is opposite technology. Large round electrodes increase cycle-to-cycle variability in ionization voltage resulting in inconsistent combustion quality. I do not want to get into a technology issue but will say we have tested all forms of electrodes and gap architecture to discover that delivered electrical power is much more contributory to combustion quality.

Thank you for your time and comments

resonanceman

Quote from: allcanadian on July 07, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
@All
I use this simple circuit to charge a 1uF/1200v capacitor to 250v with a single quick press of switch(SW).It doesn't get any cheaper or more simple than that.You can use any diode rated above the voltage you want, the transformer secondaries act as an inductor and I have charged my cap to over 1000v by using a HV microwave transformer as an inductor. Just think 12 volts directly to almost any voltage you desire with a few switch closures and SW can be replaced with a relay, there is no more efficient way to charge a capacitor I know of. What you do with the charged capacitor is up to you. ;)

Allcanadian

A  couple of  questions
Does the  secondary somehow control  the  voltage that  it will  charge to ?

Does  the  size  of the  transformer  matter ?

I have a big   transformer  from an old  UPS  just sitting here waiting to be used for something .


gary   


resonanceman

Quote from: TheOne on July 07, 2008, 07:35:38 PM
They are custom made using other plug, they sell it 20$ each, In my opinion the pulstar plug are yeah better.

I asked to pulstar if they plan to upgadre there plug with firestorm, see the reply


Thanks  TheOne

2  concerns  I have with the  pulstar 
Will it  handle   the inverter  current?   The  diagram shows the  pulse circuit  in line  with the  center  conductor .

About   the  gap
Their   Fac  sheet  says

Q: What gap setting do I use for Pulstar??

A: If your vehicle manual calls for a gap less than .040" then use the factory recommended settings. Under no circumstances should you set the gap to greater the .040", regardless of the manual setting. Back to top

Could  it  be that to big of a gap  causes  higher  voltage in the plug and could   burn  the pulse circuit out?

I think I  like the Torque Master better
I also think that  the  Torque Master design  might  help    with  oil  fouling like   Capicator   had trouble with

gary

kenbo0422

The Krupa plug is NOT a Firestorm.  The original design was to change the center electrode into a hemisphere and surround it with a crossing arc (two arcs crossed equidistant from the center electrode).  This required a boost in the electrical system as we are describing here.  The result of the design is that the plug produces a large even plasma effect rather than a concentrated arc.  When used with conventional fuel engines, the engine runs cooler, the emissions decrease (better burn) and a significant increase in power (again, better burn from initiation to total consumption).  It didn't catch on in this form because nobody was designing engines with this kind of electrical boost and the manufacturers of plugs weren't going to retool to try it out (even though spark plug manufacturing is yawningly simple -- they were basically lazy and if it didn't turn a buck immediately, to hell with it...).  The Firestorm is a conventional plug design with very little if any of the original Krupa plasma plug design.

Again, has this been tested?  The mods to a plug can be done at home.  I'm not sure of the metal used in the electrodes, but it would be wise to choose the same materials, just in case.  Although, the lesser heat signature seems to point to being able to use more common steels.

I've been busy the last few years.  I learned to work metal in a home hobby shop with a mini lathe and mini mill.  Its my retirement toys.  The mods for this don't even require these kinds of tools.  I'm expecting to see a larger cracking of the water droplet simply because of the expanded plasma.  I must say, that even if it isn't overunity or =1, we have an engine, so to speak, that runs more on water than on fuel.  Imagine this, a gallon of fuel at $15.00 and 10 gals. of water and being able to drive all week.  That is still damned significant.  Consider it a byproduct of your research, throw it out to the masses, and continue research. Don't sit on it because it hasn't come to the final desired outcome.  Patent it if you wish and make the patent public property so the greedy ones don't sit on it.

Ken

TheOne

Quote from: resonanceman on July 07, 2008, 07:59:48 PM
Will it  handle   the inverter  current?   The  diagram shows the  pulse circuit  in line  with the  center  conductor .

Good question, its something I think they dont even have an answer. I sent the question I should receive an answer by tomorow :)

The only thing that bother me is 20$ for a plug made from other is kinda a lot, someone will need to try with one plug  (Torque Master) to see if this is a good option.