Xbox, great vid.

Did you notice the difference in flame characteristics after the electrolysis event? If not, look again. Flame is blue and way above the flame it looks like super heated steam or hot air. How did you insulate the cathode?
I am currently not using Cap coil system but might change over. Please repeat your experiment using different electrolytes. You are still 1 week ahead of me. but we are def. on the same mission.
Rgds.
D

you may find ome ideas here:

http://waterfuel.100free.com/plasmatron.html

the MIT plasmatron is very interresting. We could use this architecture, but they have a rotating electrode to reduce wear and prolonge the lifespan of the electrodes. Of course it's not easy to manufacture in a small workshop, unless we use a kind of swirling of the injected water that would give the power to rotate the external electrode, like on a garden water sprinkler ...

a water plasma gun !!!! waoooooow ! it opens a very large new horizon in free energy !!!!

guys you are fantastic !!!! and thanks to overunity.com to give us this internatioal multimedia play ground !!!

MDG

Quote from: plasmastudent77 on August 03, 2008, 10:05:48 PM
Hi guys

This might be useful - a working design basically......now maybe just re-jig to work as an injection system.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/plasma-cutter4.htm

Cheers,

Steve.

Thanks for the link Steve

I didn't know that  the plasma  used  in plasma  cutters is around 30,000 degrees F

I think   that  studying   the  materials   used in  plasma cutters might be helpful   .    If it  will work  at 30,000 degrees  it  should hold up  to  adding enough heat to  run an engine .

This is  a good time to  explain  the  major difference in  what I think would work   and  how the plasma  cutter works .
Where the plasma cutter  developes  maximum heat to cut the metal  quicker  I think  we need minimum heat .......at least as  far as plasma goes .

The  plasma  cutter uses  a steady  stream  of plasma
I think  we need to use  what could be called "bubbles" of  plasma .
I think  that  we need use low enough power to  get a balance  between    plasma  bubbles and  water  droplets in the  spray going into the cylinder
controling   the % of water droplets  in the  output spray    will allow us to tune  the   system to the right heat range . 
The  ideal  would be for the  plasma  bubbles   to react  with the  water droplets  and  and air in the cylinder   flashing  all the water  droplets into steam .but not having  enough  energy remaining to overheat   any  engine parts.  .


Judging  from  the  latest  video from Xbox   the  range of power  needed may be  narrow .     
I  don't  know the  correct term .......I am going to call  it  charge density
Water can dissipate quite a bit of heat  by conduction and  boiling off . 
If the  heat  created by the  current flow  can be handled by the water .......I am calling it  low charge density 
If  the  water can't  disapate  enough heat   then  the  water starts to break  down into plasma . .........I am calling this  high charge density .
What  Xbox called  300 VDC  electrolysis    in his video   is an example of  low charge  density . 
One way  of raising the effective  charge  density  might be to make the anode  smaller (more power  per  square inch .)
Another  way  would be  to  use pulses rather than  DC.(  same power  but in shorter  time periods )

I am  still thinking that   something like  Allcanadians circuit   from the  Tesla challenge  might work best . 


gary
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Hi all
I'm posting this because I think that these steps made by Capacitor70 are very important to any one ho is trying to run his engine on water.
I also think that this post should be at the beginning of this thread right next to the working circuit.
This was a reply of Capacitor70 to a question of mine.

QuoteBut still this doesn't make much sence to me. Why should we add gas or hho wen you could do it without any of those.

If we don't have any rotation of engine how we can tune it to work alone on water.

at very first day of plasma test on engine I added some gasoline in the carburetor then water is given at gasoline intake. Many times engine stopped immediately, so I adjusted the carburetor screws to get it work properly with mixture of water and gasoline (adjust to higher RPM maximum quantity of fuel or water),  Once we got good results with mixture then I have taken test for one hour to confirm that settings are optimum, but still I am having doubt that it is running on gasoline vapors and plasma supports very lean mixture. after tests I opened carburetor to see gasoline quantity in it, gasoline is not present in carburetor but smell of gasoline is coming from it.

After few days I have taken another test without putting gasoline and cleaned carburetor to see that no gasoline present during test to confirm that it is running on pure water. and same video of pure water I have uploaded, It is very difficult to tune the engine to run on 100% water, that's why I am saying start with gasoline vapors or HHO.

What you see in video is little success, I have many videos of failure also....

Regards
Capacitor70

Quote from: Dread on August 04, 2008, 04:08:35 AM
Xbox, great vid.

Did you notice the difference in flame characteristics after the electrolysis event? If not, look again. Flame is blue and way above the flame it looks like super heated steam or hot air. How did you insulate the cathode?
I am currently not using Cap coil system but might change over. Please repeat your experiment using different electrolytes. You are still 1 week ahead of me. but we are def. on the same mission.
Rgds.
D

Here ya go... the first one is right after the bubbles...and the second one is what the rest in the video look like...

The insulation is just several layers of heat shrink tubing. I just layered it until it fit.