Quote from: Groundloop on September 17, 2008, 07:36:02 AM
All,

First, using NTE517 in my circuit is not a problem but you will need more than one in series at each plug.
The NTE517 is rated Maximum 15 Kilo Volt and max. 550mA. So to get the required (in my opinion)
voltage protection (45KV) you will need 3 in series. The BY255 is rated 1300 Volt at 3 ampere. To get
approx. 3 ampere with the NTE517 you will need 5 in parallel also. So for each plug you will need 15 high
voltage diodes. The total will be 60 diodes of the NTE517 type. Now compare the cost;

BY255 = (37 * 4) + 1 = 149 diodes = 17 USD (worst case cost)
NTE517 = 60 diodes =  400 USD (worst case cost)

Comparing the two circuits is not possible. The Nexus circuit uses the motor ignition and timing as it is.
You just add parts to get the plasma flame at the sparkplugs. Greg's circuit uses reed relays and must
be timed by using magnets on the motor flywheel. It is a more complex circuit and is not for the beginner
if you ask me.

Everything depends on what you want to do. If you want a simple and low cost plasma enhancer then
use the Nexus. If you want to do a lot of research into water injection then build Greg's circuit.

Groundloop.

Hi all,

I personally love the simplicity of the Nexus.  The circuit I tested and submitted as a contribution is more a study in principle and some on the practical.  I wanted to carry the CORE circuitry (Gotoluc's initial circuit) to a point of reasonable completion.  It is harder to apply my system because it changes the nature of the entire system to a CDI.  The Nexus is a 'bolt-on' ... very slick.

Any help I can give, just yell.  I'll be putting my system on my '64 VW Bug for testing.  I will post results as well as my generator stuff too.  The biggest hurtle in all of this has been the 'distributor'.  Now, at least, that has been solved in two ways.

Best to all.  Peace,

Greg

Quote from: resonanceman on September 17, 2008, 10:57:58 AM
Mr Tesla

This  thread  is  about  getting the most bang for the buck  from those 2  connections .
The  existing   ignition system  is high enough voltage to  form  an arc . But not much power.
The  low   voltage from the inverter  has  enough power  to do some work .

When the  high   voltage makes  an arc  within that arc  plasma is formed.
This  plasma  is  a relativly good  conductor  so  the  low  voltage  can flow through the arc.

We  are in effect making a switch  using  the  existing   ignition  system   to  turn the  power on and off .

gary

Thanks Gary for the perfectly clean and simple explanation of what the circuit does.

@everyone, we should do everything in our power and knowledge to keep the circuit or new solutions the simplest as possible.

With this said, can we come to an agreement as to which circuit we feel is the simplest and cost effective to build at this time.

We have Groundloops and now lapperll circuit to consider. Can we all look this over and agree which one we will be testing in our cars.

We will deal with timing solutions later.

Luc

Quote from: gmeast on September 16, 2008, 06:10:16 PM
Hi all,

I have posted a video demonstrating the CORE water spark plug principles as applied to multiple spark plugs. This is NOT the Nexus circuit. It operates as a CDI system like the original isolated circuit brought to us by Gotoluc and demonstrated by Peter Lindemann and also replicators from all around.

The circuit below is the exact circuit as used in the video. It uses 3 HV diodes in parallel (NTE517) per plug ... visible in the video. The circuit does not need a beefy choke (MOT) primary. It will produce a bright plasma discharge on 12 uf. I'm using 47uf in these tests because I like to blow up water.

The video is at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kz2REk4XdA

Enjoy. Peace,

Greg

Very good vid Greg. I am ordering parts to construct your circuit. I see you have an isolation transformer (1:1) and I know that there are many to choose from. Is there one in particular that you used or will any 1:1 transformer will do?
Thanks, Mike

Quote from: gmeast on September 17, 2008, 12:14:58 PM
Hi all,

I personally love the simplicity of the Nexus.  The circuit I tested and submitted as a contribution is more a study in principle and some on the practical.  I wanted to carry the CORE circuitry (Gotoluc's initial circuit) to a point of reasonable completion.  It is harder to apply my system because it changes the nature of the entire system to a CDI.  The Nexus is a 'bolt-on' ... very slick.

Any help I can give, just yell.  I'll be putting my system on my '64 VW Bug for testing.  I will post results as well as my generator stuff too.  The biggest hurtle in all of this has been the 'distributor'.  Now, at least, that has been solved in two ways.

Best to all.  Peace,

Greg

P.S.  Inexpensive diode strings work in  the CDI Plasma circuit I posted just as well as those hideously expensive HV diodes.

Peace,

Greg

@gotoluc > totaly agree with you i am confused about all these cirucits.What i think you guys should do make an agrement wich is the SIMPLE and EASY to build and EFFECTIVE.

lots of new folks want to try it incl. my friends but they are confused.For me the NEXUS looks good.