Hello there

We are a group of students from Queen's University Engineering Physics.
We chose to study Hanes' generator for a project in a lab course, and help in the understanding of the effect.
We are actually aiming to build a similar set up and get data out of it.

Since little can be found about specific specs of the generator, we were wondering if people in the forum(or Thane himself)
would be able to answer some questions to make our design as close as possible:

* Is it absolutely imperative that the wheel holding the magnets be made of steel?  has anyone thought of using aluminum?

*  For the coils, does anyone know the ideal number of turns?  Should the core be ferromagnetic or high ur??

Thanks for your help

-Pedro A. Molina

@Thane,

Is this your fine tech moving us into the future? 

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Engineering details are yet undisclosed but SSC expects to roll out its first prototype in February 2009. As for the revolutionary drive train, well, we have no idea what is planned and …

http://www.gizmag.com/worlds-fastest-production-car-to-go-electric--with-several-years-between-charging/10070/

tak
( an i_ron neighbour, but he doesn't know it )

Quote from: pdr2_esmolbra on September 25, 2008, 08:28:52 AM
Hello there

We are a group of students from Queen's University Engineering Physics.
We chose to study Hanes' generator for a project in a lab course, and help in the understanding of the effect.
We are actually aiming to build a similar set up and get data out of it.

Since little can be found about specific specs of the generator, we were wondering if people in the forum(or Thane himself)
would be able to answer some questions to make our design as close as possible:

* Is it absolutely imperative that the wheel holding the magnets be made of steel?  has anyone thought of using aluminum?

*  For the coils, does anyone know the ideal number of turns?  Should the core be ferromagnetic or high ur??

Thanks for your help

-Pedro A. Molina

HELLO PEDRO,

NO THE PERMANENT MAGNET ROTOR CAN BE MADE OF A NON FERROMAGNETIC MATERIAL - WE HAVE ONE MADE OF PLEXI-GLASS.

THE IDEAL NUMBER OF TURNS IS DEPENDANT UPON THE CORE MATERIAL, CORE SIZE, MAGNET STRENGTH, WIRE GAUGE, TURN DENSITY, ROTOR FREQUENCY, # OF ROTOR POLES ETC.

MY SUGGESTION TO YOUR GROUP - IS FOR YOU ALL TO JUMP IN A CAR AND TAKE A DRIVE UP TO MY LAB AT OTTAWA UNIVERSITY ANY TIME. THIS IS THE QUICKEST ROUTE TO UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A UNIT TO TAKE BACK WITH YOU ALSO...
BUT THERE IS ONE CAVEAT - PLEASE TRY TO SEE IF DR. BAKHASHI OF QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY WILL COME WITH YOU?

I GAVE HIM A DEMO ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO IN OTTAWA AND HE SAID THIS,

                                                                    DR. BAKHASHI OF QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY

OUR RECENT TEST DATA SHOWS A 300% INCREASE IN GENERATOR OUTPUT WITH A 43% DECREASE IN PRIME MOVER INPUT.

I HAVE POSTED THE DATA HERE: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HW3GT8HI

CHEERS
Thane

For anyone needing a "shopping list", this is what I have so far. Not sure if Thane has an "official" list, but if anyone has a moment to
fill in any gaps where I have question marks, it would be appreciated. Prices are in Canadian dollars  (.94 US)


Lee Valley Tools:  http://www.leevalley.com/
10" x 3/4" 6-Spoke Wheel, ea.
Part # 03K65.10   
$25.50
(Modified by welding metal disks or cups (source? size?)  for magnet mounting using (type?) welding rods.)

Lee Valley Tools:  http://www.leevalley.com
1"X1/8" Magnet
Part # 99K32.13
$11.90 (5Pack)  ($8.90 for 3 or more packs)


Home Depot  http://www.homedepot.ca
Ryobi 6 In. Bench Grinder Model:  BGH616
Internet/Cat #:  932134
Part #:  Home Depot Store SKU #:  17094
$49.95

Surplus:
2 Microwave oven transformers
(Brand? Pri 125V Sec 4000V ?)
(Modified by removing outer cores using angle grinder, (coolant?) leaving coil with inner core (cut flush to coil?)

Quote from: derricka on October 01, 2008, 06:09:10 PM
For anyone needing a "shopping list", this is what I have so far. Not sure if Thane has an "official" list, but if anyone has a moment to
fill in any gaps snip

Surplus:
2 Microwave oven transformers
(Brand? Pri 125V Sec 4000V ?)
(Modified by removing outer cores using angle grinder, (coolant?) leaving coil with inner core (cut flush to coil?)

What I have found expedient when salvaging MOT's is to clamp a piece of angle iron just at the weld
to guide the blade. This makes a neater cut and even allows one to rewind the core for different projects, not needed in this case. What I use is a "Walther, ZIPCUT" blade, 115 x 1.2 x 22mm

Be sure to wear eye protection and hearing protection.

Then a couple of raps with a cold chisel in the newly cut grooves and the bottom comes off. You can
then remove the coils if you wish before cutting the outside legs down.

Probably size is the best criteria, the smaller ovens being the best choice. Note that a pry bar will
break the primary loose, first one side, then the other and then work it up and off. Then remove the
two shunts, then with the mot upside down drive the secondary off, usually the hardest to do if you
want to save it...

Ron