@Phi...

Those are seriously steared questions there, and in fact half of that crap is not even accurate. By the way you wrote those questions, I tend to feel with your actions, your no better than either one of those two clowns. I'm definately not saying Obama is a saint, but McCain sure the hell isn't worth snot either. The only one worth voting for was Ron Paul, but no, we have to choose between a man who wants us tied up in war for the next 100 years, losing men, over what ever dumb ass reason can be dreamed up. And doing whatever it takes to get the entire world to attack us because they are sick of this junk. Or we could choose a man whose very name sounds just like Osama, which was the entire reason we were at war to begin with. It's pretty funny really, Iraq didn't have didly shit to do with 911... Thanks Bush for tieing us up in this damn mess we did not belong in over there, instead of actually going after who we should have been after in the first place. If you ask me, Bush is the one that needs compared to hitler and marx, and I dont care how bad the candidates are, I'm not voting for anyone who even remotely resembles Bush.

$8 a gallon for gas under Obama?  Where the hell do you come up with that? Both Bush and McCain are heavily invested in the oil companies, and if you didn't notice when america was almost ready to crumble over $5 a gallon gas prices last month, Bush did not do a damn thing to help. At least when Clinton was not getting head in the oral office, he capped the damn gas prices, forced the greed of big oil to stop, and helped our own nation. Bush and McCain both are so heavily invested in oil, they have no problem with $8 a gallon gas. I dont recall Obama ever saying damn thing that would even lead anyone to believe high gas would be related to him?

Has anybody noticed the striking similarity between WWF wrestling story lines,  and accompanying chest puffing rants...and political "strategy", and the "sincere emotive" speeches designed to convince the viewers of their faux potential ?

Its so in your face its hard not to notice.

Regards...

Anybody recall the picture of "Lyin Lyndon"...."the most telling wink in history"?


What do you bet that biden is just bidin' his time.....


http://www.reformation.org/president-lyndon-johnson.html


It's a story as old as man.  What would poisonous vipers do without their prey?  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  I was half expecting Obama to look in the cameras at his acceptance speech and ask every one in the world to each put their right hands into their pockets and then announce:


Remember that "change you can believe in" I promised?  Take that change out of your pockets and read aloud with me...."In God we trust"!


You're lookin at him!


Don't you all just love how he says the word "America"?


Blessings,


TS

Quote from: Pirate88179 on November 03, 2008, 01:42:15 AM
Hey, it is simple.  If you want socialism, vote Obama.  If you want $8.00/gal. gasoline, vote Obama.  If you want China to take over the USA, vote Obama.  If you want a President that associates with known, confessed terrorists, who says he will protect us form the terrorists, vote Obama.  If you want the government, the same folks that operate the Post Office, to be running the healthcare system, and if you want someone that will continue to expand the race divide, who's wife calls us "whitey's" and hates America, then vote Obama.



I am a conservative.  Bush is not a conservative and neither is McCain.  I will vote for McCain because I do not want us to be another Cuba which will happen with Obama, Pelosi, and Reid running the show.  Kiss our guns goodbye.  Kiss your private property goodbye as Obama says that private property ownership only gets in the way of the government.

If you like Castro, Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler, then Obama is your man, no doubt about it.  I am speaking about his socialist views here, not suggesting he will put us into concentration camps.

We all have the right to vote for whomever we choose.  We can even choose not to vote, although then I believe you give up the right to bitch about things later if you don't vote.  If the people of this country really want a bigger, more intrusive government which is already too socialist as it is, then Obama is your guy.

Bill

This is the kind of TOTAL ignorance so typical for USA citizens ( America is not the country. America is a continent ) that makes them arrogant and ignorant herd of sheep, and a laughing stock to the rest of the world.

Comparing Marx, who was a sociolog, economist and a humanist, to alikes of Hitler and Stalin is possible only if you are a dumbass ignorant.

Bill, I am not taking it on you, but on the level of brainwash people like you are subjected in that demonic dinosaur of a country, the USA. This is how the rich fuckvits keep you all in submission and under control while giving you a false sense of freedom. The freedom you have no idea of really.

The "socialism" as you understand it is british monstruosity known as Fabianism. A movement that started in England in mid 1800's. It aligned itself with socialism, just like Hitler, but it was really just a british type of nazism. Just as the eastern block, thanks to the other "socialist" nazi Stalin fell into the abyss of dictature with no end after their socialist revolutions, with a rare exception of Jugoslavia, which when realised where was that going, had left the eastern block and gained respect and sympathies in the west. It was the only prosperous real socialist country that ever existed and that is why the USA and it's satelites destroyed it because it became dangerously free and successfu, compared to the capitalism (USA style in particular).

There are quite a few socialist countries among the "western capitalist" countries in Europe, that is true, but again, if you actually look at those countries, they are all by far more successful and prosperous than the USA. Nordic countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, to name a few.

Wherever governments, both left and right , had implemented some socialist principles, they achieved greater progress than those that followed capitalist principles.

In France you have the education free up to the doctorate. Pure socialism. Italy has free or heavilly subsidised lunch meals in many factories and organisations. Pure socialism.

And how is that actually bad? If you work in the company, you ARE a shareholder in a way. You contribute to the success of your company with your work. You need to be an empty headed fuck to believe that you are worth nothing and that you deserve nothing in return.

Even in the USA the principles of socialist economy and organisation at the workplace are several decades old, such as self-management or recognition of every worker as a equally valuable contributor to the company's profitable operations. Do you remember that timber mill owner few years back who sold the mill and closed it down, and then shared the sale proceedings with all the employees equally? They all turned into millionares overnight because the owner of the mill considered them as the real asset and the real reason for mill's operations' success.

There are already hundreds of companies of all sizes across the USA that have implemented the pillar of socialism self-management and workers' participation in managing the company. Brothers Gougeon the West system nanufacturers are one better known company among them

And people know WELL how successful is that company on the international level.

So the REAL socialism is actually already here and is proving even in the USA that it works spectacularly well. That it actually brings benefits to the hard working people and that contrary to the capitalist propaganda is not only nothing to be affraid of, but it is actually the future of the economy.

It is that capitalist perversion "Fabianism" that we were all told it is the real face of the socialism, when that was nothing but the biggest brainwashing success of the rulling rich in "democratic capitalism" where the real freedoms are just a mantra during the elections.

USA is not even among the ten best countries in the world to live in. It is only 14th, according the 2007 UN report. And on the top of the list are the "capitalist" countries with socialist structure and organisation of the social services, health education and pension.

You in the USA live in the darkness of "we are the best and the greatest" mantra yet, compared to the rest of the world, your country barely reaches 14th place.

No to mention that the USA has the highest rate of cime and overpopulation in the world. To much crime is the sign of social poverty and low general standards of the population.

Not everything is good, not everything is bad, but the reality is that the USA is nowhere near the picture your politicians are trying to convince you is the reality.

To the contrary.

So some more of real socialism will only do you good, but I do not think that Obama is THAT kind of socialist. Far from it. Socialist, even if s/he is religious, keeps that to themselves. Religion is private thing, and it does not mix well with the politics. Unless you want/need to manipulate and brainwash your people in order to gain power.

There enter both Mcdonald or Caine, whatever, and Obama christian muslim, whatever. As soon as a politician starts praising the "god" of some colour, he is just screwing with your heads (Platon, the greek philosopher)

And socialism then looks even better, if you know the real difference and the real story.

For more sefl-managed companies look up the net. You will be surprised with the number of companies alredy working under that socialist system, and there is even n association both in hte USA and Canada for promotion of the self-management (which is a posthumous gift from Jugoslavia to the world) as a superiro alternative to capitalist model of company structure and management.

Superior.

I have been itching to say this all day...

We are never going to start to see a better world, all the time there is racial wars, and stupid fucking websites like http://www.kkk.com/.