Sorry Kent im on my work network that filters all pictures, I am done work in a couple hours so I will take a look later-i got serious lag here too. As far as building something goes here's the deal- I just want to make something work-I post it on the net for everyone-I sell some to my friends and family and im happy. but after building 60 or so crude experimental machines I have come to the conclusion that it has to show serious potential and be well though out. I run it on vizimag then the sim, then build it right the first time,I think that is what is comes down to-a precision machine,not something thrown together.

So Jack you have a working repusion motor then? Im not being sarcastic but you make it sound as if you have one.

It's looking like with the LEMA it's not too hard to make an overunity device if you can create a device to use the motion of the rotor to move the shield of the LEMA at the exactly correct moments. For example, to me it's curious that Steorn has banned the link to the SteornQuest website. I in no way want to go so far as to say that Steorn is lying to us, but I think we at least know that at some point they were wanting to use the LEMA for overunity even if they have moved onto a method now that does not utilize it.

Anyone here building a simple rotor and putting a LEMA next to it? I would be interested if someone can describe how little effort it takes to move the shield manually to make the rotor move. If that takes very, very little effort the next step would be to build a mechanism to use the motion of the rotor itself to move the shield.

repulsion or attraction? Do not worry that one method could drain the magnetic field.

If that was true the opposite would also have to be true. If repulsion could drain the magnetic field then attraction would have to conversely increase the magnetic field. Imagine the result, you could put a permanent magnet on your fridge and come back in a few days and find your fridge would now be one big magnet. Load up your fridge and haul it down to the Eiffel tower and stick it to the tower and in a week the Eiffel tower would start pulling cars off the steet. By the end of the month it would be pulling iron ore out of the ground in Maharashtra. By Christmas time they'd hang all of us guys for triggering this mess that sucked all of the ferromagnetic substances in the solar system into Paris.

Magnets don't work that way. The answer is "repulsion".

Quote from: thevorlon on October 26, 2006, 11:35:00 PM
It's looking like with the LEMA it's not too hard to make an overunity device if you can create a device to use the motion of the rotor to move the shield of the LEMA at the exactly correct moments. For example, to me it's curious that Steorn has banned the link to the SteornQuest website. I in no way want to go so far as to say that Steorn is lying to us, but I think we at least know that at some point they were wanting to use the LEMA for overunity even if they have moved onto a method now that does not utilize it.

Anyone here building a simple rotor and putting a LEMA next to it? I would be interested if someone can describe how little effort it takes to move the shield manually to make the rotor move. If that takes very, very little effort the next step would be to build a mechanism to use the motion of the rotor itself to move the shield.

I agree... The reason I suggested 4 LEMA with 1 on the rotor, is that the distance the rotor has to move towards the next LEMA is only 90degrees, this would increase teh attractive strenght at any lema that it would move towards. (or away from in a repulsive version), also, with 4 using repulsion you have the added benefit ( from what I' can see) that you don't have to use a solenoid or any other device to instantly close the shield... having 2 partially open will still be fine up until the rotor is at 180 degrees from the first LEMA, this allows the actuator to be less on and off, and more throttled,  using this concept, the easiest way to construct is to either use a cam to control the shields of 4 lema, or even simpler using gears perpindicular to the rotor a shield actuating rod. (basically a plastic arm attached to the bottom of the gear which then connects to a shield), the whole process then is quite simple from what I can see..

Kent