Quote from: blueplanet on June 19, 2009, 02:59:28 AM
Deceleration means negative feedback. Negative feedback means that the overall system is stable. This is not what we want. We want an unstable system.

But at this stage, I wouldn't rule out any possibility that the deceleration (i.e negative feedback) might have been contributed by the ohmic loss from the 24 collector coils. Can you not use only one collector coil and use the power from the collector coil to drive the Tong Po Chi wheel?

Dear Blueplanet,

The first prototype produced was to test the sensor or proximity switch.  That was successful.  After the finger moved the magnet passed the sensor, the wheel accelerated.  Mr. Tong Po Chi was encouraged.  He tried one collector coil and was able to detect 10 Volts AC. The input was 12 volts DC.  He then put more collector coils and was excited to see that he could detect up to 100Volts AC.

From pure ohmic calculations, the device could be argued to have achieved overunity.  However, as some scientists pointed out â€" AC voltage could be stepped up or down easily with corresponding changes in current. 

The better prototypes are being developed.

One prototype is to increase the number of Drive Coils.  Another prototype is to improve the existing prototype.  Both will be tested in the coming week.

Improvement 002

This is a simple improvement over the prototype on May 28, 2009.

The goal is to get Output Energy greater than 50 watts and to recharge the battery.

If achieved, the prototype will be a candidate for the overunity prize.  It could also be part of the Educational Product.

Improvement 003

This is closer to the 225 HP Pulse Motor Design.

The Platform will be tested.  The platform allows ease of change of magnets, coils, orientation and current strength.

If one slice of the 225 HP Pulse Motor could generate 20 HP, this platform should be able to generate at least 1 HP.

Input Energy will be limited by the 12 volt DC battery providing a maximum of 8 Amps.  Thus input power would never exceed 96 watts.

The result should be out within the next two weeks.

Quote from: ltseung888 on June 21, 2009, 07:12:46 AM
Improvement 003

This is closer to the 225 HP Pulse Motor Design.

The Platform will be tested.  The platform allows ease of change of magnets, coils, orientation and current strength.

If one slice of the 225 HP Pulse Motor could generate 20 HP, this platform should be able to generate at least 1 HP.

Input Energy will be limited by the 12 volt DC battery providing a maximum of 8 Amps.  Thus input power would never exceed 96 watts.

The result should be out within the next two weeks.

Tseung et al, you are sharing your concepts with the rest of the World.  You et al are brave enough to provide the planned experiments before they are done.

This strategy is for the safety of your group.  There is no need to steal your ideas as they are free on the Internet.  There is no point in stopping the experiments as they are far too easy to replicate.  There will still be stupid debunkers who shout and yell.

If your lead-out energy theory is right, your prototypes will work.  This is very different from the other devices where there were no theories to guide them.  After your tenth prototype, there will be no doubts on your lead-out theory and the experimental verifications.  The man-made flying saucer would be a certainty.  The Governments who want to keep that a top-secret would have no choice but to rethink their strategies.  They will give you hell.

Your experiment 1 conclusively demonstrated that an unbalanced force can be produced from within a closed system.  The effect was small and due to different changes in Energy and Momentum with different collisions.  However, the concept is correct.  The Tong Po Chi improvement using 2 coils and 1 magnet allowed a much larger and controllable effect.  The concept is not only correct but also practical.

The first Lead-out energy machine shown on May 28, 2009 was similar.  It demonstrated that suitable pulses could accelerate the wheel.  The configuration was not good enough to provide practical output power.  However, it at least showed the direction might be fruitful.  The leading students, Ms. Forever Yuen, Mr. Jacky Ko and Mr. Miller Tong will shine.  Their hard work and sweat would not be in vain.

The best drive coil for our configuration appeared to be:

600 turns of available thin wire (#28?) wound on 20mm plastic tube.  Solenoid length approximately 40mm.  The resistance of such a coil was around 6 ohms.

It could repel the existing wheel with 4 rim magnets approximately 1/8 rotation with 12V DC supply.  The current drawn was 2 Amps.

The final diameter with the wiring was approximately 25mm which was close to that of our currently used circular magnets.  We can increase our magnetic strength by stacking the magnets.

The systematic testing with the Platform was a great help.  Almost all the experimenters trying different coils and different magnets blindly were wasting their time and resources.