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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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Quote from: jeanna on July 17, 2009, 07:56:22 PM
So Bill,
You made a 3 degree shift and it made a big difference?
Mine is like 18 degrees.
So, if I am 48 degrees north, do I dig the carbon down so it is 48 degrees from the magnesium into the ground? Or do I dig the magnesium at the south end?

This must have to do with the galactic center or the plane of the solar system, or something really basic like that.

Your explanation is good. I just don't see why it would work the way it is described with the tilt the way it is. If it is lined up with magnetic north then at least it is in accord with the magnetic element, but the spin north...

So everyone take note... Do not ask me. I am not the person to ask about this!  ;D

Thanks for the explanation, Bill

jeanna

Jeanna:

From what I have read and done, the north (carbon) should be the deepest and the dip angle for your area (I think mine is like 55 degrees here) should be between the bottom of your carbon to the bottom of the south electrode.  This, of course, changes with the distance between the electrodes.  So, if you move them further apart, then the carbon, or north electrode has to go deeper.

Well, actually I think my deviation is a little more than 3 degrees but I looked it up when I moved my set-up further apart and got the new magnesium large block.  Turns out, I adjusted more than the 5 degrees as my original set-up was off the north/south meridian by another 10 degrees or so due to an initial error on my part.  So, it was a pretty good adjustment and yes it has helped.

when I can, I will post some more scope shots.  Yours looked really good again.  Funny how they change.  I remember Jim trying to describe this to us all a long while back but we didn't get it, or at least I didn't.  Very hard to describe.

Does your scope show little spikes flashing across the screen as vertical lines as seen in my video?  I checked my scope and when I set it up, there was no interference and after my scope shots were taken, I stuck a JT circuit on it and those spikes were gone.  So, it did not seem to be electrical noise from my fridge or something on the same circuit.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

sm0ky2

@Jeanna

if you dont know the dip angle in your area you can make a make-shift  "compass" with a needle and string.

first place the needle so it rotates horizontally to find the 'magnetic north' from where you are.

then turn it so it rotates vertically to find the 'dip angle'

it should be fairly consistent with depth up to about 40ft deep or so. ( most people dont go down quite that far.....)

occasionally i have come across areas with a magnetic anomoly, where the dip angle varies greatly within a short distance, this is usually near 'hot spots' where the magma is closer to the surface.
such as throughought california or in the desert.

but for the most part, if you use the 'compass' in the spot where you are making your battery you should be good to go.


@ Jim

when i first was taught about the EB in college, we used 2 pieces of copper.  it was not until 10 yrs later when someone showed me that 2 different metals can increase the voltage. i believe this is due to an ectrochemical reaction between the metals when there is a voltage potential already present.  This seems to be in line with the electrochemical series of metals, though i have not tested every existing metal and possible soil compositions.

voltage also increases with size and depth.

current on the other hand, i have not had much success with at all. if i space them far enough apart (or in seperate cans) they can be run in parallel, but with very tiny incremental results (not the current doubling one would expect). in series the voltage will double as expected.

in college we had a 20v setup with about 3 dozen dirtfilled cans on a tabletop.  (again using copper on both electrodes)
there was very little curent though.

i'll have to take a good look at this "joule thief" thing.  i scanned the threads briefly a while back but was confused by the issue, and decided to leave that one alone.. I  have no clue how they are even constructed...
  If something like that can drive the current of an EB to usable levels, then i have a list of 3,000 other places such a device could be utilized.... i.e. anywhere there is a voltage potential...

BTW, magnesium and copper works a lot better than copper and steel. ( at least until it oxidizes and has to be replaced)

I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

jeanna

@iotayodi,
Good to hear this.
Then, I hope  we can look forward to some scopeshots?

@Bill,
Yaknow, I thought I saw something that may have been a spike like the ones you had last night.
No storm here, though.

The spikes were very fast just like the ones of yours. I couldn't take a pic.
I made a movie which I have tried to make into a small enough thing for upload, just to see if I could.
I can't add the contrast on the movie that I can add on the pics so it is really dim and fuzzy.
It is probably more annoying than helpful.
Sorry. But I did see these thin spikes today.

In fact today was extremely active.
I had good pix at about 8 or 9 resolution levels. Usually there are 3-5 good resolution levels.

@Sm0ky2
This is a good suggestion. I have a few compasses. I surely can find one that will give me a dip angle.
I even have a pond I am starting to make.
I can try the depth in the side of that before it gets filled with winter rains. It is dry now.

thank you,

jeanna

sm0ky2

Quote from: altrez on July 17, 2009, 09:02:46 AM
@all

So you see if i simply had 350 watts of free earth power running at its max efficiency. i could run my Laptop 65watts my tv 150 watts and lamp 75 watts all from the earth.

Plus run my custom JT circuits for lighting all over the house. I only need 12 volts and 300 mAs to make that all happen :)


-Altrez

Altrez,

let me know when you can run all of those things with 36 milliwatts.  i'll have a nobel prize lined up for ya...
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

electricme

@Stringguy
Thankyou string,    nice to have you along with us. 
Quote from: stringguy on July 17, 2009, 07:30:28 AM
@all,
just want to say thanks to all for the excellent work you are doing.

jim
People who succeed with the impossible are mocked by those who say it cannot be done.