I like that DonL!!

What if you put the inductors in series.
One inductor per plate each one going to a cap as t3t4 has described?

I noticed with my secondary from joule thief that with those parallel secondary lines (which are essentially the same as 2 wires from an earth battery or probably an "air" battery)
that putting an inductor in series with the load made more available to the load.
My scope batteries are recharging again, so I need to wait to check  some of these ideas.

here is a pic. just look at the upper right hand stuff. the secondary S1 which is the upper one is the simplest one. It got a boost from a bigger inductor. It still has power to spare.
I think this is what we can do with the EER and air/radiant collectors because what they are presenting us is pulsed dc in all cases.

jeanna

@ dllabarre

Quote from: dllabarre on August 27, 2009, 03:27:29 PM

I've been working on using inductors for months with this setup.
This will need a lot more control and switching but here is where I'm going now:

DonL

Your design is much like a loop antenna. In a loop antenna the gain is higher if the wires between the inductor and capacitor are far apart. I suspect you have them close together. You may want to try separating them and see if you get any improvement.

Remember, as far as I can tell, these 2 plates together act as a capacitor.  If i touch the 2 wires coming down together (1 wire from each plate) it shorts out the 2 plates like it would short out a capacitor.

The 2 plates are ~3 inches from each other.
I need to do more experimenting.

DonL

@ dllabarre

Quote from: dllabarre on August 27, 2009, 04:15:38 PM

Remember, as far as I can tell, these 2 plates together act as a capacitor.  If i touch the 2 wires coming down together (1 wire from each plate) it shorts out the 2 plates like it would short out a capacitor.

The 2 plates are ~3 inches from each other.
I need to do more experimenting.

DonL

The gain of a loop antenna is increased as area of loop increases. Something like this would increase area of your loop.

Quote from: xee2 on August 27, 2009, 04:53:04 PM
@ dllabarre

The gain of a loop antenna is increased as area of loop increases. Something like this would increase area of your loop.

I should be able to test this easily enough.

DonL