Albert:

QuoteA simple experiment for you . take a battery wire and two leds . but the leds in parallel opposite each other . connect the leds, one will light THEN remove the wire . the other will light (blink). tap the circuit on and off and you can see that random arcing makes the off led blink brighter . BEMF force This is the energy that wold be wasted in conventional science. Just lok at Motors that use coils and imagine they can be made 100times for efficient if they would only utilize this force.

You are dreaming when you talk about making motors "100 times more efficient" here.  And I assume what you are really saying is that you only need 1/100th the amount of electrical input to get the same mechanical power from the motor.  So you are really implying free energy here.

BEMF force is used or not used, it all depends on the application.  Designers are FULLY AWARE of it and you are just propagating your myth.

As far as your experiment goes, on first impression I am surprised that the normally off diode flashes.  I would need to see it on paper just the same.  However, here is the real point:  You are using that as an example of "something special."  In fact, that is NOT something special.  I can't give you a direct explanation right now, but for sure there IS an explanation.  The explanation is most likely related to the inductance of the wire discharging somehow through the second LED.

For the Bedini energizers, they are just battery chargers, BFD.  Take a look at the Bedini "CD Clarifier," the deluxe version costs $400 USD.  Do you know how an audio CD works Albert?  Because if you did then you would know that a Bedini "CD Clarifier" is just a piece of electronics quackery - a rip off.

MileHigh

Wrong again. His product line exceeds 4000 dollars and they are not JUST battery Chargers  . They utilize radiant energy . the fellow i know takes peoples dead old batteries and gives them another fully restored battery for 20 bucks . It take him a few hours to restore a battery to new condition and says they are better that they were new .
here is Johns company and he is not a scammer http://energenx.com/products.html

Also his Class A amplifier using his audio techniques are also very expensive and the reviews are outstanding comparable to Bose or dolby technology .. DUHH!
Needless to Say Bedini knows a lot more than you do .

The led lights because of a collapsing electrical field BEMF and it is not utilized at all except by FREE ENERGY  experimenters .

Albert:

QuoteThey utilize radiant energy

You saw how above I said that spikes are "sexy."  The "radiant energy" is just the "sexy spikes."  It sounds mysterious, "radiant energy" like it must come "from the vacuum" or the "Dirac sea."  You can make it even more mystifying by talking about "positive radiant energy" and "negative radiant energy."  Another line from the enthusiasts is "we know it's there but we can't really measure it" and "we use a Bedini motor to tap into radiant energy to 'bring it to the other side' as conventional energy that we can measure."

All of that is bullshit Albert.  All that you have to do is do the experiments.  All that you have to do is make careful measurements of how much battery energy you are using and compare that to how much BEMF "radiant spike energy" you can measure.  You will find that ALL of the energy in the "radiant spikes" comes from the battery and from nowhere else.

So a Bedini battery charger uses a discharging inductor to force energy into a dead battery.  It might indeed give it a better ability to recharge a dead battery.  As far as making them "better than they were new" - it's possible but I really doubt it.  The real point is that they are just battery chargers, BFD.

I know that Bedini makes audio amplifiers, they're of course legitimate.

QuoteThe led lights because of a collapsing electrical field BEMF and it is not utilized at all except by FREE ENERGY  experimenters

You are back to dreaming again.  There is no free energy in BEMF spikes and you have been brainwashed by the "free energy cottage industry."  They want you to believe this so they can sell you books and DVDs.  DO THE EXPERIMENTS and prove to yourself that all of the energy in back spikes is fully accounted for and comes from the battery.

Look at Ist's recent clip where he burns out the DC transformer.  He is holding a wire in his hand that comes from a big coil.  He touches the wire to chrome metal and you see big sparks, the "back EMF spikes."  The big sparks happen when the wire disconnects from the chrome metal.  You are seeing a discharge of the energy that was stored in his big coil.  The energy in the coil came from the overstressed DC transformer.  When the wire touches the chrome, current starts to flow and the inductor charges.  When the wire disconnects, the big spark comes from the coil discharging its stored energy, and that stored energy was supplied by the straining DC transformer.

So Ist's clip was nothing more than a big hand-held Joule Thief setup.  The "pissing big sparks" was the same old same old story - back-EMF spikes are "sexy" - and you can exploit that "sexiness" if you want to and sell books and DVDs.

Going back to John Bedini, his three versions of the "CD Clarifier" are just junk electronics quackery products that exploit the weakness and gullibility of hard-core audiophiles.  They will spend almost anything to make their sound systems sound better, and John Bedini is there with his totally fake "CD Clarifier."  The "CD Clarifier" is just a box filled with about $10 worth of electronics that probably makes cool sounding electrical discharge noises.  So you put your audio CD inside this box and hear some high-voltage crackling sounds and you are duped into believing that this will make the CD "sound better."  Four-hundred dollars for a piece of junk that does nothing that costs ten dollars to make.

You can make your own "CD clarifier" - just get a soft damp cloth and gently wipe the clear side of your CDs clean.

Like I said Albert, open your eyes and _really_ see what is going on.

MileHigh

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quote :All of that is bullshit Albert.  All that you have to do is do the experiments.  All that you have to do is make careful measurements of how much battery energy you are using and compare that to how much BEMF "radiant spike energy" you can measure.  You will find that ALL of the energy in the "radiant spikes" comes from the battery and from nowhere else."unquote



Did do em . DID you ? Hell no . I have built over 25 bedinis . Gave a bunch away last Christmas . They Loved Them. I Have 5 here right beside me . Two run 24 7 for a year now on there own . .. Yes I  know what they Do . They tap the Aether . Another word for your sultty synonim .