RuKiddingMe,

You are starting to ask some very good questions !

Not many people here seem to care how Ferromagnetic Materials operate !
I started this thread a couple years ago...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=10.0

called       Magnetic Permeability ... I can't find anyone talking about this !!!!!

My guess is that if you read this thread ( I have not added to it to keep it short)
        you will come away with alot of questions answered in your head.

         As of yet.. I seem to be the only person who says WOW !
               when a piece of iron Amplifies the magnetic field of a coil 5,000 times !
                   Hell.. Super Perma-ally Amplifies it 1,000,000 times !

        You see..most think Ferromagnetic materials CONDUCT a magnetic field. (SO WRONG !!!)
            When in fact, say, a piece of iron turns into a magnet in the presence of an outside field.
                in other words... The randomly Pointed dipoles in the iron line up to form a  'magnet'.

There is no 'disapation' of the magnetic field of the iron after the coil is turned off.
      Anisotropic Energy turns the the dipoles in the iron back to random directions
              after external field turned off (Source of Bedini Pulse I believe,).

Anyways...I implore you to study this, so I have someone to talk about this with !

Have a great day.

The Observer

Quote from: The Observer on April 12, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
RuKiddingMe,

You are starting to ask some very good questions !

Not many people here seem to care how Ferromagnetic Materials operate !
I started this thread a couple years ago...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=10.0

called       Magnetic Permeability ... I can't find anyone talking about this !!!!!

My guess is that if you read this thread ( I have not added to it to keep it short)
        you will come away with alot of questions answered in your head.

         As of yet.. I seem to be the only person who says WOW !
               when a piece of iron Amplifies the magnetic field of a coil 5,000 times !
                   Hell.. Super Perma-ally Amplifies it 1,000,000 times !

        You see..most think Ferromagnetic materials CONDUCT a magnetic field. (SO WRONG !!!)
            When in fact, say, a piece of iron turns into a magnet in the presence of an outside field.
                in other words... The randomly Pointed dipoles in the iron line up to form a  'magnet'.

There is no 'disapation' of the magnetic field of the iron after the coil is turned off.
      Anisotropic Energy turns the the dipoles in the iron back to random directions
              after external field turned off (Source of Bedini Pulse I believe,).

Anyways...I implore you to study this, so I have someone to talk about this with !

Have a great day.

The Observer

Thanks for the response.

So it's your opinion that the magnetic field caused by a coil pulse or a passing magnet goes away instantly, as soon as the current or magnet is removed.

Kidman,

Well, there is Remanence.
Or.. A few of the dipoles stay in the direction they were oriented by the external magnetic field.

However this really doesn't exist in Modern Transformer Core Type 'metals'.
The hysterisis loop follows the same path down as up.

What should blow your mind is that a piece of iron magnifies the field of the coil by 5000 times !
With no extra electricity needed. (quote from the National Magnetic Lab in Florida)

Why?      The iron's internal randomly oriented magnetic field lines up in the same direction.

The Observer

Quote from: The Observer on April 12, 2010, 08:59:17 PM
Kidman,

Well, there is Remanence.
Or.. A few of the dipoles stay in the direction they were oriented by the external magnetic field.

However this really doesn't exist in Modern Transformer Core Type 'metals'.
The hysterisis loop follows the same path down as up.

What should blow your mind is that a piece of iron magnifies the field of the coil by 5000 times !
With no extra electricity needed. (quote from the National Magnetic Lab in Florida)

Why?      The iron's internal randomly oriented magnetic field lines up in the same direction.

The Observer

Observer,  I also find that fascinating and saw your reference to that before.  Since it magnifies the field of the coil so much in what ways do you think this might be useful?  Can this be useful in some new way to generate energy at a high COP?  I'm a bit lost on theory of magnetic fields but I assume others know this concept and I'd like to think there's a hidden energy egg in there somewhere.  But it's not jumping out at me as far as how it may be 'real world' useful. 

E2,

Cool Beans...

You need to read my thread on it.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=10.0
      Magnetic Permeability ... I can't find anyone talking about this !!!!!

When a person realizes that a piece of iron is a magnet that can be turned  'on and off' so to speak,
       ideas can start to fly.

- a piston where there is no magnets  just iron.. 1 iron inside a coil.
- a mechanical lever that lifts, then gravity pulls it down.

- Of course the Bedini Pulse is really from Anisotropic energy that turns the dipoles inward.
   thus causing a fast change in magnetism.
    in other words.. when current is suddenly turned of in the coil
         the iron is at that very moment a magnet...
              But it's internal energy (Anisotropic) pulls everything back to random...

I'm excited that someone wants to talk about this now.
Before.. all I got was Misinformation Agents.

BTW
...somehow that thread was looked at 7000 times
   during a year and 1/2 period when it was buried deep in this site
... without 1 single reply !!   hmmm
                                                   I wonder who was so interested in it?

The Observer