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Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications

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alchemist123

#3500
May 22, 2010, 06:58:15 PM
Quote from: Pirate88179 on May 22, 2010, 02:52:13 PM
What I don't get is that folks keep saying this is not an overunity device.  Well, consider that:

Input=0
Output=>0

How is this not ou?  Even my simple electrode circuit outside, which is still working, is ou.  My input is 0 and my output is enough to light 400 leds or some big floro tubes.

I don't want to argue on what the definition of OU is but to me, anything that you have 0 input and get >0 output has to be ou in its most fundamental form.

Bill

But you do have input, whether it is galvanic action or  a "telluric" receiver or whatever.   You still have normal electrical losses via heat and core losses from flux retained in the core after magnetization.  and eddy currents. 

Now i agree that in a sense this is "free" energy, because all one has to is put some electrodes in the ground and wire it up and you got an electrical current,  but this is from the intrisic properties of the materials and system,  it is far from loss-less and very far from its output exceeding its input

Bruce_TPU

#3501
May 22, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
Quote from: alchemist123 on May 22, 2010, 06:58:15 PM
But you do have input, whether it is galvanic action or  a "telluric" receiver or whatever.   You still have normal electrical losses via heat and core losses from flux retained in the core after magnetization.  and eddy currents. 

Now i agree that in a sense this is "free" energy, because all one has to is put some electrodes in the ground and wire it up and you got an electrical current,  but this is from the intrisic properties of the materials and system,  it is far from loss-less and very far from its output exceeding its input

Who gives a rip if there are electrical losses via heat and core losses???  You have mentioned this three times in three postings.  These are not village idiots.  They have been working on this for a very long time.  And I with them at the first.

Why not build something yourself!  Oh wait... I know, it will have electrical losses and heat losses.  Sheesh! 
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

alchemist123

#3502
May 22, 2010, 09:44:45 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on May 22, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
Who gives a rip if there are electrical losses via heat and core losses???  You have mentioned this three times in three postings.  These are not village idiots.  They have been working on this for a very long time.  And I with them at the first.

Why not build something yourself!  Oh wait... I know, it will have electrical losses and heat losses.  Sheesh!

I repeatedly mention this because it is easy to get lost an important message amongst the 200 some pages in this thread.   And not to mention it is the very problem that makes your logic flawed in your feedback idea and also the reason why this is not an overunity device.     How about you pick up a highschool physics textbook and learn a thing or 2 ok? 

Vids will be posted in a couple weeks, running tests on various core selections and ideas on improving efficency

Bruce_TPU

#3503
May 22, 2010, 10:53:43 PM
Hello ALL,

Ignoring the above drivel...  H.S. physics books, yea, that's the solution.

Anywho, there is a man who has offered help in this feed back venture, but needs an appropriate circuit of the LaserSaber coil drawn out.  View his post here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2209-earth-battery-sg-17.html#post95972

P.S. alchemist123
There is no arguing, only experimenting.  You can say it can't be done all that you want.  They said the same thing to Steven Mark, Tesla, Columbus, and about a thousand others.  I know that there is unlimited power that can be tapped into.  I never accept the words "Can't" or "Try" or "not possible".  They told me I couldn't raise ocean shrimp in Fresh water.  Said I was "crazy", and "wasting my time".  Guess what, they were wrong.  The more you tell me it "can't be done" the more I will find a way!  That is what makes me, me.... ;)  All things are possible!!  Jesus walked on water, Peter took a few steps (more than we ever have), I have seen the lame walk and blind eyes opened, sir.  So... I would trade all of the physics books that say why it can't be done, for a couple of stubborn people who will not take "can't" for an answer and try, and experiment, and try again.  How many times did Edison try differant items for the filament for the first light bulb?  He was told it "couldn't be done", "not possible", and to "give up".

You have a good night with the status quoe... But me, I want to give the lightning to our children and to reach for the stars!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Master_T

#3504
May 23, 2010, 12:08:41 AM
@All 
I just wanted to say that I have had some very interesting results experimenting with the configuration that I posted before, but with a capacitor bank, three NS coils connected together and burried into the ground, and the involvment of an electric velder to effect the ground from several widely spaced points.

I could post the details up till this point, but I have a feeling I do not belong here.

I still wish all of you the best.
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