It seems you may have done it Mags, hats off to you...a fine example of lateral thinking.

All the best.

Regards...

thanks Cap
Ya know, I used this circuit, without the recycle diode, in my earlier experiments last year. At the time, I had the flywheel effect in my mind, and I also had the recycle diode a bit later, but never got the gain. None that I knew of. ;]

The secret is to cutoff the source cap at 7v if it was 10, then the recycle diode will fill the receiver cap to 700v. Its a ratio that works at all voltages. There may be other cutoffs that may have more eff, but I will stick to this and work with making things better as we go. I like the fact that if we need to connect the 2 caps in parallel, there will be no sparks at the switch because they are equal. Thinkin. ;]

I have put many hours in this and feel good about it. Its here. We can build it.

Now to get it all together to work on its own. And make a way to skim the 320 from the top of the 1320v cap and run the 1000v back to the circuit. Its just silly aint it? 

All the info is on the last 6 pages. Teslas Igniter pat had shown me the way of the inductor, and that it works as a flywheel. Actually in the Igniter pat, when I ran it on the sim, that flywheel never stops, just keeps on keepin on, and the kicks kept it going. ;]

Thanks for reading all. Take it, keep it, share it. I have seen it, and I saw that it was good.  ;]

The adventure continues. Stage 4  10uf 1000v to 10uf 1700v   

Mags

here is the circuit thus far as I have figured to get to the end of the 3rd stage. I am contemplating a 4th stage, that if it gets to 2000v on the 10uf cap, we have a simple way to produce 2 10uf caps at 1000v each, from 1 10uf cap at 1000v.  =] get my drift? 200% eff. 

Anyways here is the 3 stage to avoid complication.

The batt charges the source cap to 1kv, then the batt is switched off, forever. lol

Now the first switch to the right of the batt switch is the first stage, and the switch must be opened when the source cap is down to 700v.
The believe circuit will charge the 10uf cap to the right of the source cap to 700v.  Now the upper and lower switches at stage 1 get closed. This puts those 2 10 uf caps in parallel. 20uf at 700v ;]

Then we close the second stage switch. We open when the 20uf 700 of the first stage reaches 500v, and the stage 2 believe circuit will charge the 20uf cap in the second stage to 500v.
We now close the switches above and below stage 2. This will give us 40uf at 500v.

Notice we are still using stage 1 caps, now combined with stage 2 caps. Stage 1 caps with stage 2 caps are the combined source for stage 3.

Took forever to figure this out. ;]  Few hours actually.  ;]

Now we have 40uf at 500v, we close stage 3 and open when the source gets down to 350v, and the 3rd stage believe circuit will charge the last caps, 2 20uf=40uf to 350v.

We now have 2 40uf caps at 350v = 80uf at 350

Now for the difficult decisions on how to switch out all the caps in groups of 20uf, and connect them in series. We now have 10uf at 1300v up to 1400v!!   

but how to get it to be a single source for the first stage?  Thats where stage 4 comes in. It should bring us to 2kv, dump into a 10uf cap and we have 1 for the money anf 2 for the show. Well 1 for the money and 1 for the show..  Get it?

Those that have been following and know what is happening, please feel free to show some simpler ways if possible.   =] Any input is welcome.

Mags

hey

Read the above, but i may have made a mistake in the end game. A good mistake.  Im seeing 1320v at 20uf!!!    hmmm  leme check this. its good. See Im still working on it and discovering good things, even if it was a mistake. ;]

Mags

Ok  I have been working things out with the plethora of switches that ar needed. Adding a fourth stage, im counting 13 switches. maybe 3 more for possibly disconnecting the diodes if need be.

Im close. I think transistor switching will work fine and I dont care about the on resistances of them. =] the transfers will work fine.

This will be a fun week. Im beat. I will hopefully come up with a simpler solution to the switching.

I think we may be farther over the top than I had quoted. I will have answers tomorrow. 


Just got back from leaving my last sentence. had an idea that I tried that worked. It eliminated the end game switching to get the caps in series. I got it another way. Stay tuned, this is getting easier in the last couple min.  See ya tomorrow.  Skittles, the world is a rainbow. ;]

I took the 3rd stage and used it, 350 at 160uf to get 1320v in a 10uf cap. Now we can just switch out the source cap back and forth after all stages are complete. So as it will be with the new way, we can skim 320v from the source cap and leave the 1k to restart the process. Its good. Easier than I had predicted earlier.   =]

It feels weird. Lately Ive been pretty much forward moving on this. the ideas are all coming together quite nicely. if time is of the essence, we are making fantastic progress.

Hey woopy, dont read the books for a while, they wont help you here.
Just experiment. The gain is there. You will see it.  We already have. ;]
The only thing to hammer out is the timing of the switchings for the cutoffs and such.  If we want higher freq process, use lower inductances. Lower freq = higher inductances.


night

mags