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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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gotoluc

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on June 16, 2011, 11:00:47 AM
when the acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives... when we work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.

Glad to see others have the same understanding.

Thanks for sharing the truth

Luc

conradelektro

Quote from: skycollection on June 16, 2011, 11:05:59 PM
Dynamotor or muller replication or romero uk, my motor is based in the same concept, i have 2 circuits for the driver motor and i am building 3 pairs of UNIGEN COILS, they are going to be the PICKUP COILS. i have no results for the moment because i have no the same rotor and the same coils, because i don`t like TO COPY THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE DO...!
I will try to make a dynamo-generator to my way and if the motor works is good, if the motor not work, I AM LEARNING....!
i NEVER GIVE AP, is better to make something, for me is only experimentation....! SALUDOS Y GRACIAS.

@skycollection:  I saw your very nice motors and generators (coils) at YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/skycollection.

Do you publish details about your coils and circuits? I am interested in your two drive circuits and the layout of your coils.

(It is o.k. if you want to keep your design to yourself, but if you want to share it would be interesting to see what you are doing.)

Greetings, Conrad

Tudi

Quote from: u2btchr on June 16, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
New question on coil core materials, I need assistance, advice, clarification on before I do a LOT of work making mu-metal cores.

I have 10+ kg of mu-metal plates off of old hard-drive magnets I've collected over the past 2 years. I want to melt and cast 18 to 20 mm diameter rods and use this as the core materials for my next coils (will cut coil ends and have coils approx. 25mm in length). What can I expect (coil characteristics) using this material vs. the 18 mm dia. hollow ferrite tubes I am using now?

Would you use mu-metal cores with wire wrapped directly to them IF you had them? Looking for yor advice and opinions.

The old shop tchr [39 yrs] trying new things. [Today was LAST DAY for my students so now I can do what I want    ;D   for the summer!]
Hehe, bought this week 38 broken hard drives 1$ each( received as bonus 5 DVD players xD ). They contain 2 magnets that would cost 9$+9$ ( with shipping and all ) + the motor + bearing + other components. I really recommend visiting second hand PC store and buy the junk from there. You can also buy mother boards for circle sized coil cores + other components. Power supply can contain lots of interesting components also. The good thing is that they sell these stuff as junk and combining them might even fix a power supply if you are lucky.

nul-points

 
Quote from: k4zep on June 16, 2011, 06:40:47 AM
Good Morning NP,
[...]
Why the lenz effect seems to go down and output of the generator becomes positive relative to the overall system I am not certain at this time
[...]
The best of luck on your pursuit of this will-o-the wisp.....When you start from scratch, just getting all the mechanics to fall into place, winding all those damn coils, getting the parts together, is a heck of a lot of work.  If you see something that works in his device, don't redesign it, use it. When the thing doesn't work, don't stop, back up, try again!  This is not a slam bam, thank you mam type of system, I have learned so many new things that I "thought" I knew, but didn't building this device, what can I say.  Remember, Efficiency, efficiency, efficiency.
[...]
So we continue, this is not the end, only the beginning.

Ben K4ZEP


good morning Ben, thanks for the encouragement to continue - directly from your words, of course, but also indirectly from the good work you're doing, testing the different sub-systems and sharing your results with those of us who are 'lagging'  :)

perhaps i can give you some more encouragement?

after i mentioned yesterday how your test is actually already looped, and having the gen coil in series is not 'obstructing' the motor drive contribution from the PSU, i was considering some of the other comments you've received since then which have effectively tried to 'explain away' what you've observed as some artifact of the PSU operation

the 'meat' of the issue seems to be this: "is the 'boost' you're seeing, due to the PSU - or to the gen coil?"

here's some reference points which might help us interpret what you're seeing - at least to 'ballpark' level:

a)  if you connected a passive component, eg a resistor or a capacitor in place of the gen coil,  what would we expect to see in the voltage drops around the series loop?  well, the voltage polarity across that component would be in OPPOSITION to the PSU - both of those components would show a positive voltage at the PSU end, relative to their motor end connection

the motor would run if the resistor value wasn't too high, and also if the capacitor was a large enough value, then it would allow the motor to run for a while while it charged up, and then the motor would stop

but the important point is that the voltage polarity across these passive components would be in the same sense as the MOTOR not the PSU


b)  ok - that was looking at passive component - now let's consider energy sources...
     when you connect a stack of rechargeable cells together and one cell is considerably more depleted than the others, if you now connect a load (eg a motor) across this stack to make a series loop (similar to your test), what can we expect to see, voltage-wise, in that series loop?  well, usually we'd expect to see all cell voltages have the same polarity (although very different voltages, 'cause one is depleted) and only the load voltage to be in opposite polarity

however, as i'm sure you've experienced, what often happens is that when the cells with a good charge drive current through the depleted cell, that cell acts as an energy SINK not a SOURCE - and since the current is being driven in the opposite direction to that required for a regular charge, that cell starts to get a REVERSE charge (and its voltage can actually 'flip')

the depleted cell does not have sufficient strength of 'supply' to CONTRIBUTE to the total supply and instead it becomes an additional LOAD


c)  same as for (b) except ALL cells now have a good charge - what voltage configuration would we expect to see?  well, in this case ALL cells are SUPPLYING energy to the system, NONE are SINKING energy, so only the load will have its voltage polarity in opposition to the total 'battery' supply - ALL cell voltages will be in the SAME sense


now consider YOUR test - your gen coil o/p - a 'supply' (seen by the PSU just as a cap,  'cause the FWBR 'hides' the gen coil) is in series with another 'supply' (the PSU)

now we see that your test setup matches (c)!

and what is the difference between (c)   - and [(a) or (b)]?

in (c) (and your test) all sources of energy supply are CONTRIBUTING energy to the load - NONE are SINKING energy as part of the total load

this tells us that your gen coil o/p (maintaining a charged cap, same polarity sense as PSU) is a true SOURCE adding to, not a SINK receiving energy from, the PSU o/p


IF your gen coil o/p WAS A SINK - like (a) or (b) then the PSU would drive current through all 4 diodes in the FWBR (2 parallel paths with 2 diodes in each) giving a forward volts drop of approx 1.4V, and the cap would charge up to this voltage - which would have the same polarity sense as the motor - ie. the cap voltage would be in OPPOSITION to your PSU voltage (like the residual charge is before the o/p coil starts generating)

[PS  i'd EXPECT the series current to increase with your 'boost' config - you've increased the supply voltage!!]


sorry this has been a bit involved, but i hope that it encourages you to confirm the value of your test and continue with the good work!!

thanks for doing these tests
np


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aircore

Hello, everyone:
     From Romerouk to demonstrate his devices to today, has more than 40 days, according to the introduction of Romerouk, his device did not think we are now so complex and esoteric, and he introduced a very detailed, from the circuit to have a very detailed structure data.
     We can see from the video presentation can not see you now imagine that complicated, and he should introduce the structure and data fit.
     If so, just follow him with structure and data should be able to Replication the success, because such devices are not very stringent data requirements, even if some errors can have a significant effect, not 100% successful, at least 60% success. But: why now no one can Replication the success? We should seriously think about.

    In my opinion:
1) Romerouk is not fully disclose critical details. There may be some clever tricks that we have not been found.
2) his device untrue!


    In short: whether the first point above, or that the second point, we do not need to add any unnecessary self-imagined ideas and settings. It is just a waste of your time and money! If his unit is real, we explore the energy used in he did not fully disclose the details and skills.

    Again: He's not a lot of people think a certain device so complex, self-imagination of the thoughts and add-on settings will not let you succeed, you can only make even more confused!