Quote from: konehead on June 18, 2011, 02:08:56 PM
I know what ron is getting at, that series cap will usually work like something that resticts current ant that is "it"

Doug, did you not see what happens to the input?

Ron

Quote from: e2matrix on June 18, 2011, 11:55:27 AM
@wattsup,  thanks for your contribution in trying to figure out some of this.  A couple questions.  Are you building this or do you have it built?  If not then I have to ask if theory always works out to be valid in a real world build?  We know it does not.  So I am only asking why you are certain this will make it run better as it does not seem Romero mentioned this and it seems he would have been aware of this.  And since you seem to have a handle on the theory why not provide a circuit to support it?  Even a block diagram circuit might help and others can fill in the details.  Or maybe just a logic-flow diagram.  Do we need a flip-flop circuit?  I don't think Romero was using that.  Not trying to be critical here just trying to get more pieces of the puzzle.  Thanks again for your input.

@e2matrix

No I am not building anything until I know how it works. Even then, this same knowledge can be used in so many ways. As for Romero, it is kind of crazy to have a wheel that works, then chuck it, then come back with another build asking questions. It seems he needs our answers just as much as anyone else so do not rely only on what Romero has to say. Rely on your power of observation and logic.

The method I am showing answers all the questions and/or requirements for a wheel to run with strength at all times, regardless of the rpm level or drag. Also more rpm means less torque, that does not change, so the running speed of the wheel should not be to high.

The AOAO method will work, I don't need to make it to know this. Besides I have been following several of the builders and their results to know very well what is involved.

See my last diagram, that was drawn in CorelDraw. When I click on the magnets I can rotate them together anywhere on the wheel I want. Same with the drive coils and generator coils. By moving them across the sensors and knowing how the sensors will activate (or deactivate a coil) I went through all the logical steps of variables. When I first depleted all the possibilities with both drive coil pairs energized only via the sensors (Always Off - Always Off), this did not give any proper method for both the oscillating back and forth effect (OBFE) and the motive clockwise effect (MCE). With both coils off and energized via the sensors, there was always something that did not work in either the OBFE or MCE. So the method was canned and a new method Always On - Always On was looked at one by one with the other variables. Once the always on was depleted, the next logical step was one Always On and one Always Off. Again, this had to go through all the variables. First the D11 coil pair always on and the D22 coil pair always off. This again did not give the proper effects under all conditions. Then I tried D11 coil pair always off and D22 coil pair always on and BINGO. Under this condition, all the peripheral effects coincide perfectly with what is observable in Romeros video. That's how I found this. Not by chance, not by just theorizing, but by logical methodology plus deduction and reasoning. These three tools are the best ones anyone will have on their work bench. lol

I don't need to turn a wheel. I can see 10 of them turning at the same time and see each one making its own effect and realize how they all work together. Actually, once I realized or found the Wire X in Romeros first video, I realized he was not on the level to make his first video in such a manner as putting the battery permanently on the output rail. This is when I had to start really not listening to Romero and just rely on the facts of his second video. His second video is well made and now he takes the battery off and shows rotor turning, load applied, etc. So great, a video with no tricks (or none that I could define). Great. From then on the hunt was open for all.

The change in circuit should not be great. It is a matter of keeping the drive coil transistor gate always energized and only de-energized when the D22 sensor is activated by a passing magnet. Everything else stays the same. Do this and your wheel will start strong, rev-up strong and remain strong. Without a doubt.

As for a circuit diagram, this is not my specialty. This is for the EEers on the forum to work out. We each have our strong points and no one can do all this alone.

The logic is simple. Keep a coil energized and turn it off with a hall sensor - versus what is being done now - take a coil and energize it with a hall sensor.

wattsup

Coiltuning in practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY

It made things a little clearer for me
Best regards
Erik

OK you want technical version i give you technical!!

A series capacitor within a transformer circuit assumes text book example so there is no increase in energy thus nothing to be gained. Lets move on...

Romero coil configuration is VASTLY different as each coil wire out of phase produces a dipole. In between that dipole there is a virtual capacitance layer which is charged from the passing neo magnet between the dipole gap. When the neo has induced a maximal magnetic flux the electric field in the virtual capacitor is decaying, because of feeding inductance with electrical current, external electric field from inductance tries to recharge charge this capacitor by displacement current. As a result, capacitor pumps energy from M field, and real JOULES o/p of the systems rises. We allow this to happen because the coils are wired out of phase. So self created magnetic flux is minimal thus the BEMF is made ZERO not NULL.  The energy does NOT come from the neo magnet directly it only creates the conditions to allow this to happen more efficiently!  The same methods can be employed by using other similar methods to charge the virtual capacitance layer. It can even be done using air coils if they are wound as flat Teslas Coils. Please understand this the magnets in a desired operational system ONLY recharge the virtual capacitance layer they do NOT directly induce a current into the coils. Stop thinking conventional and you might get somewhere.

Double coils can be made by winding up the two electric wires to the magnetic core as a Bifilar coil or as opposing dipole. It can be seen that the dipole itself must be tuned to the resonance frequency of the desired rpm * the number of passing magnets. This is how Romero produced a self resonance coil by hours and hours of tuning and clipping the wave lengths without an additional tuning capacitor. Remember Romero said "you can use capacitors its another method and probably much easier!"

  After it can electrify the magnetic core into negative, we can then flow the electric current in the double coils out of phase but at that moment the relative opposite self-induction phenomenon appears between the free electrons attached to the magnetic core and the free electrons flowing in the double-coils. As a result of that, a negative energy can be stored in the surroundings where the relative magnetic field appears. Now we have a negative inductor which consists of the magnetic core electrified into negative and the double coils (non-inductive coil dipole) in which the currents with the same quantity and the opposite directions flow as pure VARS. The greater the VARS the more intense the KINETIC energy.

The negative inductance of the negative inductor is proportional to the product of the rate of change of the relative magnetic fluxes piercing the coil and the number of turns of the coil, like the general inductor.

The negative inductor stores a negative energy in a space where the relative magnetic field appears, and as a counteraction, the inductor generates an electric power with a positive energy. The free electrons which got a kinetic energy from a space as accelerating returns the kinetic energy to the space as decelerating. In a normal conductor, the free electrons lose the kinetic energy by colliding with the atoms. In this case, the atoms which enhanced their vibration energy by the collisions with the free electrons radiate heat. In the electric wire of the negative inductor, the kinetic energy of the electrons go in and out the space, so that the electrons influence the atoms just a little. For this reason, the free electrons work to buffer the thermal vibrations of the atoms. That is, the negative inductor becomes cold in the operation. The same phenomenon occurs in a conductor just charged into negative as well. Though the free electrons in the conductor are making motions in their random directions while colliding with the atoms, these free electrons cancel out each other's speed, so the current does not appear macroscopically. This situation is equal to the one in which the two currents with the same quantity and different directions flow into the non-inductive double coils.

So to understand  the negative energy is a energy or a matter which follows an imaginary time. From the Dirac equation, the energy of a particle ( a electron ) can be positive or negative.  The negative energy is excluded from physical subjects, as it is not realistic. SO ITS IGNORED with conventional physics! In order to make the signs be negative, it needs to be understood that the time should be an imaginary number and the space should be a real number.

OK what does this mean in English? it basically means you tune to max VARS into a short circuit then open the short into the load and if you fulfil everything else above you tap the ZPE. Once understood within our grasp to convert this to solid state system and kapanadze is so close to what i described above you will not believe it! I mentioned the general process he uses before in other posts.

Quote from: konehead on June 18, 2011, 02:08:56 PM
I know what ron is getting at, that series cap will usually work like something that resticts current ant that is "it"
BUT

I dont see any helper magnets  like Fausto did in his video to adjust the inductance,
I dont see any coil shorting making high frequency osclaiitions like I did with series cap as high bypass filter,
I dont see any very high VARS produced first,  thorugh the resonate 90 degree shift, like Bolt says to do through lots of tuning first,
And i dont see a rotating magnet rotor that when it speeds up under loading of coils, it makes more and more watts from the speed up, regardless of elelctrical laws, like Romero does. (Romero doenst use seires cap anyways so good reason we dont see that ha)

All that can be seen is transformer, sereis cap, and lump resitive load.
and so why wouldnt that series cap to do no good at all but to restirct current?

Doug, that is why I called it a "series capacitor test"

1) From this test it should be obvious that a single 6mfd cap is extremely limited in the amount of watts it can output.

2) If the capacitance is too high then the series caps become reflective.

3) But if you limit the amount of amps to say 1/4 of a coils normal output then it does appear that the two series caps are non-reflective.

You have been saying this all along, "the series cap is non reflective", well
I was just adding a qualifier to your statement..."under some conditions"

I believe it was Gene who suggested two caps in a balanced circuit.

Correction on the math in circuit three, with the two series caps, the output is 1.15 watts.

... but look at the double cap experiment again... the output went from 1.152 watts to 3.57 watts and the input stayed at .04 amps!!! thats a three times increase of output with the same input. Now admittedly this is with a transformer. But I think the basic principle will still apply.

I thought that would bring a smile to your face!

Ron

Edit: and .04A is still one half the unloaded draw of .08A!!!