Quote from: LtBolo on June 27, 2011, 11:16:39 PM
@Bolt


I do agree that a series capacitance is helpful, but I honestly don't think it is for the reasons you state. If this were simply a matter of big VARS, I'm thinking we'd be seeing a whole lot of looped systems.

I've said my piece, I won't argue further.

Funny i have seen and know of plenty of looped systems seen and discussed in private over the years LONG LONG before anyone else ever thought  a muller could be looped! Using the principles i described there are plenty in operation. If i know a few must be lots.  The well known ones are variations of the theme as the TPU and Kapandze. I can say with 100% confidence the TPU is a reactive system. Its 10,000 VAR's system when SM measure the coils with a clamp meter it showed 10 amps and 1000 volts on those coils.

I've said my piece, I won't argue further. BUT i will continue to press this home so others will have a looped muller.

Romero statement "people pay attention to 'bolt' posting,  he is describing another way to do this and he is right, actually using capacitors will take you there more easy, if not, you need to build the coils according to many factors to replace what the capacitors will do."

AND

"I only find few people who are really trying to understand and replicate this device.If you don't understand it, then is no point to continue, here or any other project, making a copy is not enough.
We have few people here that are really a goldmine for all, konehead, bolt, EMdevices, and few others, and I see many times that most of you are just ignoring their advices escpecially konehead who did try and built FE devices probably more than anyone here."

I ditto for Kone he has made a different Muller almost  every month for years and years and no one takes notice of his practical skills and knowledge.

Quote from: Dave45 on June 27, 2011, 11:24:38 PM
Ramero's rig ran at 1200 rpm surely he could have ran it much higher, I think he is using harmonics if you find the frequency of the coils and run your rig in a lower harmonic that would allow the generator flexibility to run overunity.

This is true.  The freq of the bifi may be higher than 160hz and 160hz(just example shown earlier) is a lower harmonic.

Good call Dave.  Makes very good sense. ;]

Ya know, when Romero had first shown the self runner, even the more out than in before that, maybe he had no intention of getting into what happened after that.  So maybe he just held back on the bifi stuff, just to hold on to something.
Zeropoint used bifi in his self running neo sphere motor. I remember a YT vid of a large bifi coil that charged the driver battery and another battery, and the voltage rise on both was very respectable. very.

bifi, its whats for dinner.  ;]

Mags

if you tuned the system to a specific load at the highest resonate frequency and the backed off to a lower harmonic frequency the system has the capability to go into overunity
But if you run all out thats all you will get

I was ready to crash and shut down my computer, and a couple things came to mind that make sense of a few things.  ;]

Ok, assume the bifi has a resonance and we are hitting some lower harmonic and it gives us a gain.

Remember Romeros setup where he was finding that there was less lenz effect by putting more space between the rotor and coil. Even I argued him that there would still be drag plus less induced current in the coils.

But, if the rotors rpm hits near a resonant freq of the "bifi"coil(of which we did not know of yet) then the spacing IS our lenz killer and the coil fires up anyway with the weak spinning fields because we are triggering that resonant response.  ;]  So we can have distance from the rotor to avoid too much lenz, and get amplified voltage in the coil by getting it to ring, even for just 1 cycle. this is amplification!  ;]

Now you may say, but the rotor speeds up due to being lenzless.  I see a new reason for speed up.  ;]

As the rotor approaches the resonant freq(or harmonic), when it gets close, maybe the resonance takes over and the wave form leads the rotors magnetic drive, and actually pulls the rotor to the resonant rpm, thus the speed up.  ;]  When the freq of the rotor gets close, the coil will want to ring at its freq, even if the rotor is not there yet. yup.  ;]

Im just putting together parts of the puzzle.

Most consumer generators out there have a very close proximity between stator and armature.  Here we need the spacing to get rid of most of the lenz and get the coils singing(ringing) from a distance.

lets say all of you closed the gap to a couple millimeters, your output should get better, but lots of drag.

It all makes sense to me now.  There has to be resonance, even if it is just 1 cycle, the gain in the one cycle is there. It doesnt continue to ring due to drain of the load, but so what. Maybe at least we get the output to what we might have with the rotor close to the coils, and a lot less lenz with the spacing. ;] ;] ;]

What happens after the bridge does nothing other than collect the coils output properly(as possible for now).

So wind the bifi coils. It is key here. The spacing is what gets rid of the lenz, and the coils resonating causes the coils cycles to lead the rotor giving speedup till the rotor reaches ring rpm.

Digest that and we should see some winners.  ;]

Night all  and good luck.  My brain is tired.  =]



Mags

here's the bearings we need http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R4QQmCY4JU&feature=feedrec_grec_index