if you have cores in your drive coils you've doubled your lugging.

i don't think you need much material for drive coils.

plus the drive current drops in half series connected.

take care.

nap

ps - bolt beat me to it

Quote from: bolt on July 04, 2011, 12:37:59 AMGenerator coils needs to be bifilar wound. You can have more than one pair of bifilar in one coil like 3 or 4 pairs and each matched for null and diode plugged to common bus as a COPY of same flux.

You should check by frequency generator they appear "dead" to in phase pulses so the self cancellation is 100% perfect.  The rotor and back end magnets align and flip the domains between two states within the non linear BH region.  The cores (iron power, ferrite or metal mix) acts as a ZPE proxy its critical to the operation. Romero scope shot reveal 2 times period of zero point flat followed by positive and negative pulses.  Pulse goes high on approach then low. This is ambient energy there is no BEMF.  Bifilar coil makes out of phase VARS creates electrostatic tensor. It acts as a single large capacitor that is being charged!  Its a Time Energy Pump as time is swapped with space and Hertizian understanding swapped to longitudinal aka Scalar.  Where RLC simply leads to OU where RF understanding of power factor correction is taken to ZERO.

Do not think of them as coils making current they are NOT they become capacitors when induction is made NULL. Capacitors can be charged with JOULES. Joules are quite useful to us and can be moved to another cap called a Dump Cap where you can measure the work through a load.

Hi Bolt,

Thank you for the refocusing information. As many here know, Itsu and I have been doing tests to see the difference between series and parallel capacitances in our setups. So far our results have been agreeing very well. However, in my case, there are three specific things that I have yet to try. One is the use of  bifilar-wound coils, the second is the biasing magnet on the back of the cores, and the third is ensuring that the coils exactly cancel out any normal induced current.

In my original setup (where I had the coils wired in series-canceling), I still had a small induced current in the coils as the magnets passed by (though it was substantially reduced compared to the series-adding configuration).

I am very interested to explore the electrical/dielectric side of the equation. One thing I wanted to ask you is if we were to just wind a bifilar-canceling coil, would that work just as well as having two bifilar coils in the bucking configuration? If it is the electric component of the induced field that we want, wouldn't the bifilar canceling setup get us both the perfect current cancellation due to normal induction + the added benefits of having the coil behave like a capacitor?

The only thing I haven't considered in this case is the interaction that the core will have in the system due to the re-gauging that you mentioned. Any insights/clarifications on these two points would be quite helpful as I am prepared to wind a new set of coils to get to the heart of this principle.

- Jason O

P.S. Here's the video links to my recent experiments once more for those who haven't seen them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRPrCIA-IU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qqcq-lbP8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsePRUlrcAE

that video by Cody Gillespie is "coil shorting" in most basic form and he uses just a reed switch to do it.
If you want to use solid state swithcing (reeds blow up easily) you have to use mosfets, since they are very low resistance switches, and do a few in paralell so that your resistance is very low too to make it work better this is very important to have low resistance.
Also i like to make the mosfets "bidirectional" (connect gates and source leads then switching happens between the two drain leads)
This is way to switch AC with mosfets and when you coil short, that is what you are doing -
however that said, Sonedi doesnt use bidirectionl mosfets and he says his circuit works great so who knows anything for sure until you try it out....

So here is my tried-a true circuit to do coil shorting, but it doesnt show any mosfets in paralell - but they are shown bidirectional...
Use a 4421 driver, not a 4422 since it will be normally OFF swtiches ON
It doesnt show a "two stage" output circuit, where the cap is disconnected from the coils when the cap hits load,
and this circuit posted also has an AC cap in series on leg of FWBR, that you might not need or want, but it works like a "high-bypass" filter and cuts out lenz lug all on its own - higher uf value in the cap lets more high-end juice thorugh that fills cap, but you will probably get some lug happening as if a big cap fills, lesser uf value in that AC cap blocks the juice much more and also cuts down lenz lug to nothing...so you have to find best uf value and balance for your system
Probablyy better to do with two-stage circuit instead maybe use both you have to try it and see what works best...
dont necessarily need the 2807 mosfets either and go with higher voltage types too so nothign gets snuffed out....all depends...
keep pulse width that shorts coils at peaks NARROW say 1ms or 2ms at 60hz as an example...When you short right at peak the rotor doesnt care which way to lug anything, so doesnt, is my simpleton theory why that is sweet spot in rotation...for sure peak period gives most voltage out into cap too.
Expect gain of voltage X20 if using a small uf size "collector' DC cap as compared to what the coil "normally" makes in voltage, so that is what to size components like diodes to, so nothing blows up.

current is what manifests when cap hits load you shouldnt "lose" any current in trade-off for the much  higher voltage in the caps from coil shorting - how high you fill cap and pulse width to load and the resistive load iitself and frequency of pulses into load will decide your current that you get showing on a meter...

Also look a few pages back of simple circuit that Sonedi posted he modified from a tesla site (reply #3970) - this looks really great and is different than mine - he uses single mosfet and couple of 4007 diodes but it is triggered off rotor-mags and is not "continuous" short but switched...he says it speeds up motor and has tons of power not sure any details jsut what he wrote but this might work even better dont know but if I were you guys I would jump all over that circuit Sonedi put up, for the romero replicator rigs being tested now. He says its working and speeds up rotor and has tremandous power so that is what you want eh

Quote from: bolt on July 04, 2011, 12:37:59 AM
Drive coils need to be in phase. They can be parallel cap tuned for resonance operation. Current will drop as RPM increases.

Generator coils needs to be bifilar wound. You can have more than one pair of bifilar in one coil like 3 or 4 pairs and each matched for null and diode plugged to common bus as a COPY of same flux.

You should check by frequency generator they appear "dead" to in phase pulses so the self cancellation is 100% perfect.  The rotor and back end magnets align and flip the domains between two states within the non linear BH region.  The cores (iron power, ferrite or metal mix) acts as a ZPE proxy its critical to the operation. Romero scope shot reveal 2 times period of zero point flat followed by positive and negative pulses.  Pulse goes high on approach then low. This is ambient energy there is no BEMF.  Bifilar coil makes out of phase VARS creates electrostatic tensor. It acts as a single large capacitor that is being charged!  Its a Time Energy Pump as time is swapped with space and Hertizian understanding swapped to longitudinal aka Scalar.  Where RLC simply leads to OU where RF understanding of power factor correction is taken to ZERO.

Do not think of them as coils making current they are NOT they become capacitors when induction is made NULL. Capacitors can be charged with JOULES. Joules are quite useful to us and can be moved to another cap called a Dump Cap where you can measure the work through a load.

No wonder Romero left the country i think he has given up all hope! Before anyone asks no i can't get involved building this yet i got enough to do with HHO Gensets and Kapanadze which i just started so it will be around Xmas earliest before i get chance to make a muller.

@Bolt:

That sounds like a very good explanation.
Does the dump camp have to be connected to the load via switching or
can it also be connected directly? Due to the coils having no self inductance,
there should be no back coupling then, even if the load is connected directly.
So you don't need to tune to any kind of resonance (e.g. frequency) at all on the generator coil side for this to work it seems.

Hello Guys!

Tonight I've done with the drive coils.. Does anyone of you experienced some unusual current draw of drive coils?.. My first drive coil consume about 400ma and my second drive coil takes about 300ma, but when I switch them on both it takes only about 200ma and rotor spin faster..