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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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mariuscivic

Hi everyone!
As i continue  experimenting with my rotor i found this strange phenomenon that i will try to describe.

The rotor spins freelly around 3000rpm

I connect a load (12V light bulb) and the rpm goes down around 1800rpm

Then, with the load connected i short the gen coil ( light bulb turns off ) and the rpm goes up around 2600.

This phenomenon happens only around 1500-2500 rpm and only with the load connected. I didn't use any capacitors like before;just the coil the light bulb and a simple cable to short the coil.
Does anyone have any ideea what is going on here??

gyulasun

Hi Mariuscivic,

Have you seen this video referred to here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=11350.msg299495#msg299495

You may get some answers.  Please try to read through all that thread.

Sorry for keeping this short, I have to finish now and leave.

Gyula

mariuscivic




Thanks for the quick reply.As i said on the energetic forum, I didn't expected this efect from the ferite

Magluvin

Hey Marius

Are you saying that if you dont have the light bulb on as a load first, then the shorting has bad effect, no speed up?

Is the bulb lighting as a load?

Have you tried adding more bulbs in parallel?  Maybe as you add more bulbs the speed will go up.

Mags

llewgnal

Quote from: gotoluc on September 04, 2011, 12:37:07 PM
Thanks Gyula,

you always come through ;)... this is exactly what I was referring to.

What made me think of this is because of Richard's post http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg299387#msg299387 of a YouTube video of a generator that has next to no cogging. Link to YT video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf4OJJuEiQ&feature=email

If we can build a generator that has next to or no cogging, then I quite sure we have OU.

I worked with Thane Heins for some months on his generator coils and I'm quite sure he would have OU if he could of only removed the cogging from his generator coils since when the generator coils were under load or shorted they had no Lenz drag on the prime mover.

To get Thane's effect a coil must be wound with many turns like a high voltage coil. So high Inductance is the main key. Later as Thane experimented with heavier wire he got more current out of his coils but he never got to the point of removing most of the magnet to core cogging. Now if we join or efforts, experience and knowledge we may get to an OU Lenz and Cogg free Generator.

If we use YouTube user llewgnal (Gary) minimal cogging design or maybe just biassing magnets if you think it's just as good. However, the big difference would be that if we use Finemet (nanocrystaline) cores instead of Ferrite since Ferrite has Inductance losses as the magnet approach it we may have a winner!... as the Finemet core may have an Inductance increase as the magnet approaches it as Eric has found. So if we wind the coils like Thane's Lenz free style (high Inductance) then the bonus maybe that we may need much less turns (wire) as the Inductance could be boosted by the Finemet core and magnet combination. In this case we would win big time as the coils would output much more current and have no Lenz effect under load.

What do you think?

Thanks for your time

Luc
Hello
   Just wanted to say the configuration of my Muller is  9 coils sets and 12 magnets.

Gary