Quote from: chessnyt on November 11, 2011, 11:15:14 PM
@Iwh:

Your post was very well written and thought out.  I commend you for making such an effort.  Welcome to the thread 

I don't believe things will return to the way they were and it will just be "...business as usual" if the coming energy revolution reaches its full fruition.  Most of us are currently energy dependent.  We depend on a variety of different energy vendors (e.g. Cal. Edison, Texaco, etc.) to light our houses, run our cars and even fuel our barbeques.  Once the new energy systems/generators saturate the market, most of us will for the first time in our lives, have a legitimate opportunity to become completely energy independent.  This is a major, major change.  It's similar to the saying "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."  Keep in mind that 5 of the top 10 wealthiest companies (according to Fortune 500) are oil companies (energy venders).  This will finally NOT be the case any longer and we will have a chance to see this "undoing" in our lifetime.  So becoming energy independent is not exactly business as usual.

So true.  The "...being addicted to the chase" factor.  I believe that all of the factors you have mentioned previously as well as this one are spot on (some I hadn't even considered in such detail).  The reasons that this thread isn't exploding is multifaceted.  The "...circular tail-chasing status-quo." facet to me is likened to cancer research.  If someone discovered a cure for cancer outside the prominent cancer research industry, think of how all of the doctors, technicians and scientists (belonging to the prominent cancer research community) would feel.  It would mean the end of their research, grants, donations and their very jobs! (not to mention a huge gash in their pride coming from an outsider)  This would NOT be very welcome at all just as Rossi is not being welcomed as he should be.

And here's the clincher.  Take a look around and you'll notice that some of the MOST POPULAR threads on this site have NOTHING to do with over unity WHATSOEVER.  Think about that for a minute.  Let that sink in...

     
Regards,

Chess

There are more than 200 different types of cancer. You can develop cancer in any body organ. There are over 60 different organs in the body where a cancer can develop.

it's more like, a cure for cancers not cancer.

@Rosemary:

Things are finally starting to "click" for Rossi as IronShell3d announced yesterday.  There was one die hard critic to which Rossi replied (just paraphrasing here) that he could always purchase one of his units to test his technology privately or otherwise. 

Then there's the deal he cut with National Instruments (thanks again, IronShell) which will be doing the controls for the E-Cat. 

And finally, there's the new website Rossi has setup for his business and a way for future customers to contact his company.

It's nice to see some more newcomers to the thread as I really liked to hear what was on Iwh's mind.  There's a guy who can write and write well.  WOW!  After all this time, it's nice to hear from some of the previously silent members of the gallery. 

Energy independence is another form of freedom (or degree of) and we were all intended to live that way.


Best regards,

Chess

Hello Chess,

Where are you getting all this info?  Ironshell?  I can't find it.

I might tell you that there's one aspect of all this that's missing.  WHERE ARE OUR ACADEMIC COMMENTS.?  WHERE ARE OUR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS?  If anyone ever doubted the reality of our troll's 'agenda' just know that it's frighteningly effective.  By rights there should be banner headlines that Fleischman and Pons have been vindicated.  That was widely reported in the early 90's and discredited as quickly as it emerged.  It left everyone feeling that their candy had been snatched away.  And the undercurrents of suspicion against 'agendas' was the only after taste.

Well.  What gives?  It's the silence that's scarey.  Just look at our 'free energy' forums and see who's commenting on this.  No-one.  That's the part that scares me.  I assure you - all readers here - that the method of 'discrediting' either the personalities or the technology of any free energy device is absolutely BRILLIANTLY effective.  It should be.  It's well funded. 

Best regards Chess.  I might tell you that I've been emailing everyone on this news.  And I have a really extensive email list.  lol

Rosemary

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on November 12, 2011, 08:14:17 PM
Hello Chess,

Where are you getting all this info?  Ironshell?  I can't find it.

I might tell you that there's one aspect of all this that's missing.  WHERE ARE OUR ACADEMIC COMMENTS.?  WHERE ARE OUR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS?  If anyone ever doubted the reality of our troll's 'agenda' just know that it's frighteningly effective.  By rights there should be banner headlines that Fleischman and Pons have been vindicated.  That was widely reported in the early 90's and discredited as quickly as it emerged.  It left everyone feeling that their candy had been snatched away.  And the undercurrents of suspicion against 'agendas' was the only after taste.

Well.  What gives?  It's the silence that's scarey.  Just look at our 'free energy' forums and see who's commenting on this.  No-one.  That's the part that scares me.  I assure you - all readers here - that the method of 'discrediting' either the personalities or the technology of any free energy device is absolutely BRILLIANTLY effective.  It should be.  It's well funded. 

Best regards Chess.  I might tell you that I've been emailing everyone on this news.  And I have a really extensive email list.  lol

Rosemary

@Rosemary:

IronShell3d has posted the most recent updates in reply#258 and reply#264. 

I have also been writing every mainstream media outlet I can think of.  I have contacted most of them through their "idea for a future story" sections of their websites.  Some have replied but only with general form letters confirming they have received the messages.

I can't imagine what is taking the mainstream media so long to break this story.  The only sensible explanation I can come up with is the current (possibly new) owners of the major media networks may be the same owners of other energy interests.   


Best regards,

Chess

Quote from: chessnyt on November 12, 2011, 08:44:58 PM
@Rosemary:

IronShell3d has posted the most recent updates in reply#258 and reply#264. 

I have also been writing every mainstream media outlet I can think of.  I have contacted most of them through their "idea for a future story" sections of their websites.  Some have replied but only with general form letters confirming they have received the messages.

I can't imagine what is taking the mainstream media so long to break this story.  The only sensible explanation I can come up with is the current (possibly new) owners of the major media networks may be the same owners of other energy interests.   


Best regards,

Chess

Thanks Chess.  I've just seen those posts.  I have some frightening knowledge of how our journal publications are edited.  I'll give a link for anyone who may be interested - but I'll do it on my thread.  This needs to stay focused on this technology.

I think the truth is that our media are led by the nose by our academics.  And the really sad thing too is that our academic research into any energy is funded by our rich oil cartels and grid monopolists.  So.  There's small hope of funding for energy that is NOT going to first benefit them. Right now they're invested heavily in solar and wind energies.  And there's really big money expended here.  Our own grid suppliers are ESKOM.  I was allowed to 'talk' about our own problem related to an emergent technology on a radio show here in SA - provided ONLY that I did not mention ESKOM. ESKOM are in the process of installing a nuclear expansion program - here in our Beautiful Cape - barely 30 kilometers from Table Mountain - which is a World Heritage Site and one of the 7 geographical 'wonders of the world' - as was awarded the day before yesterday.  And it's also to be situated barely 7 kilometers from the ONLY fault line in all of a South Africa.  Needless to say - I was ENTIRELY unable to reference the complaint without being able to also reference the source of that complaint.  And in the light of this progress into Cold Fusion - any need for nuclear expansion will be obviated.

I'm afraid this thread topic is possibly regressing to a discussion on these conspiracies.  But I do think it's very relevant.  We all really need to start making a stand.  Right now the evidence is everywhere that our Thermodynamic Laws need to be entirely revised.  They belong to the dark ages - together with all that blather about the impossibility of the breach of unity.

I just get angry when I think of all this.  It's an insult to our intelligence.  I would love Iwh to give us more of his insights.  He has the very real merit of remaining objective.

Kindest again
R

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