As a side note this Theory of Fluid Electricity was first explored by Benjamin Franklin. You can get a glimpse of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Guide_to_the_Scientific_Knowledge_of_Things_Familiar#Electrical_fluid

It's not the book per say but I think I can get a copy of it on the net.

And here it is: http://www.archive.org/details/aguidetoscienti01brewgoog

You might need to make a login and it's free. Lots of great older books there!

one part of the book struck me exceptionally hard:

Q: Why is a tin pan  (filled with hot water) employed as a foot warmer?

A: Because polished Tin (being a bad radiator of heat) keeps hot a very long time; and warms the feet slowly while resting upon it!

I think we have the answer to the problem right here. Through polishing of the tin it smears the channels in the Tin along the surface like a smudge. This makes it harder for the energy to radiate back out of the tin bottle. This smear is like when we bend close the end of a hose. Pressure builds and the shape of the bend dictates the spray shape.

The way I have been saying is to create this barrier that only allows energy to be attracted to the inductive bottle inside. Once the potential increases inside so does the power of the pressurization of the energy. This can be controlled but higher electric fields then the potential the inductive bottle inside. The mass of metal is the conductor but we change it from bidirectional exchange to one way making the bottle equalize to the internal pressure. We can make this process stronger by configuring the constriction fields to charge up then let it go when it reaches a higher potential then the bottles interior. This will allow spurts to come out the end that are squeezed or focused into a tighter and faster potential. The process could be automatic by mimicking a tank circuit. When it hits a certain level it burst fires the charges which increase the potential. Initially this should create a thrust and with an addition of a target generator rings we should be able to pickup and generate from the passing charges if the rings are engaged just right. So here we have it. The perfect motor generator all in one unit.

Tesla did this with air and charged pellets. The resulting target hit if chosen to would be destructive and very powerful. But the induced movement of the medium would still move the unit and what it is attached to.

Quote from: jbignes5 on November 12, 2011, 12:43:36 PM
As a side note this Theory of Fluid Electricity was first explored by Benjamin Franklin. You can get a glimpse of it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Guide_to_the_Scientific_Knowledge_of_Things_Familiar#Electrical_fluid

It's not the book per say but I think I can get a copy of it on the net.

And here it is: http://www.archive.org/details/aguidetoscienti01brewgoog

You might need to make a login and it's free. Lots of great older books there!

one part of the book struck me exceptionally hard:

Q: Why is a tin pan  (filled with hot water) employed as a foot warmer?

A: Because polished Tin (being a bad radiator of heat) keeps hot a very long time; and warms the feet slowly while resting upon it!

I think we have the answer to the problem right here. Through polishing of the tin it smears the channels in the Tin along the surface like a smudge. This makes it harder for the energy to radiate back out of the tin bottle. This smear is like when we bend close the end of a hose. Pressure builds and the shape of the bend dictates the spray shape.

The way I have been saying is to create this barrier that only allows energy to be attracted to the inductive bottle inside. Once the potential increases inside so does the power of the pressurization of the energy. This can be controlled but higher electric fields then the potential the inductive bottle inside. The mass of metal is the conductor but we change it from bidirectional exchange to one way making the bottle equalize to the internal pressure. We can make this process stronger by configuring the constriction fields to charge up then let it go when it reaches a higher potential then the bottles interior. This will allow spurts to come out the end that are squeezed or focused into a tighter and faster potential. The process could be automatic by mimicking a tank circuit. When it hits a certain level it burst fires the charges which increase the potential. Initially this should create a thrust and with an addition of a target generator rings we should be able to pickup and generate from the passing charges if the rings are engaged just right. So here we have it. The perfect motor generator all in one unit.

Tesla did this with air and charged pellets. The resulting target hit if chosen to would be destructive and very powerful. But the induced movement of the medium would still move the unit and what it is attached to.

Tin isn't the answer here the process is. Tin was an example that was posed by Benjamin Franklin when explaining the process. Our path is to realize this process and devise a way to utilize the process into a method to get what we want. I think using gold or silver plating on the center electrode would focus the charges flowing twords it better. Think of it like this. The center electrode is made out of matter that has one pattern and density. When we cover the electrode with gold, which has a finer density it amplifies the charge presented to the electrode by splitting up the charges into a finer density to present to the inner electrode. You could say we are focusing the energy into higher potentials to present to the electrode. This in turn raises the potential of the electrode beyond what it would normally be naked in the device and would give it more umph to sustain that potential.

Now we know what it takes to make diamonds. If we compressed the carbon to a setting just before that process works this might work as well. Lets say http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_diamond. In fact we probably could do synthetic diamonds and that would bring back the tunability of the device on that side to. If it is conductive then plating the end will still work.

Well it seems that the Crystal cell research has gotten a little quiet, I hope everyone is doing well.

I'm still working on my cells. I'm in the process of making bigger, cheaper, and more powerful cells. The key word now is cheaper. I've found that Elmer's glue can be expensive so I'm working on replacing it with something better.

Using Flour and water and mixing the Epsom salt and salt substitute and allowing it to dry seems to be working so far but is very brittle. So I'll see if flour and water will be the replacement for Elmer's glue. It maybe key to spray paint this cell as to protect the brittle flour when its dry.

I'm also working on a bank of big cells that will charge a super capacitor.

I would upload a picture but Overunity.com wont allow it for some odd reason. Check energetic forum for picture.

   All:
   I have been busy with other things but I would like to relate what I've found when I connect up the cell I call the "Hot Dog on a Stick". 
After over a week it is still dripping water, salt water. I have washed it off and dried the cell, but it just goes back to dripping more water.
Anyway, I think that the glue/salt process works, even with using the regular salt, brass rod, and aluminum wire.  As I have not added
any additional water to it since the day it was made.  Which is what I was trying to avoid, the addition of more water to keep it working.
I still have not had a chance to buy a new meter, so I don't know what it puts out, but I can still tell, more of less, that it's about a volt,
and 10 to 20 mA. Which is not that bad considering its make up.
Several coils can be placed in series on a single rod, and the voltages will add up.  Ib give that a try, you'll see how using the same anode
to place several separate cathodes will produce several volts. You can connect them in series, and/or parallel as well. It will work both ways.
   One advantage of this system over some others is that the impedance of the cell is steadier unlike the cement cells and other cells that
I've made and used, which can drop in voltage over time, these cell can maintain their voltage and current levels under load much better.
So, are more useful in that sense.
   I think that using glue to seal the outside of the cell is not going to work permanently in my situation. As the cell seams to sweat too much.
So, I think that sealing it with resin, or E-poxy, or something more impermeable will be necessary. But it does work, and can be made with
no cost in materials, as I've done, zilch expense, other than the glue.  I'll add some more coils to the 15 inch brass rod soon, like another
three more, and I'll show you all the results. It should produce about 3 to 4 volts, if all goes well.
 
   

Excellent Nick. I too had that idea and have found that it does in fact work the way you state. It seems to be surface area related as to the power it can push.


I have started experiments on just sodium carbonate, aluminum and graphite. At first there was a reaction, bubbling but after 3 days I am now seeing crystals forming on the top layer of the water. This could be interesting!