Using flour and water and letting it dry does work as a glue but its very brittle. Its not better than Elmer's glue but its a lot cheaper and easier to make.

   @ Ib2:
   Although you may be right about the surface area, I've already tried what I am suggesting, and it does work as I'm stating.
   Although I have not had a chance to try it yet on the hot dog cell, as I've been busy,  but I did try it on a 15" section of 1/2" copper tube, and found that I could
light a couple of white leds, and that the voltage was about 3 volts, and several mA. This was done some months ago, so I don't remember all the details,
but I do suggest giving it a try, so that you can see for yourself.  I used a 1/2" copper tube, and aluminum wire.
  One important factor is that the copper tube is part of my 6 foot copper framed pyramid, and so there may be a difference compared to just a regular short piece
of tube by itself, I don't know, but I'm fixing to try it out, with the hot dog cell.  I'll know more in a day or two. In any case I thought that it was worth mentioning.
I did not develop the idea any further at the time, as I'm not interested in having to add water to the electrolyte cloth that I was using before. But, now it is different
with the use of your sealed glue/salt idea.
  Yesterday I again dried my hot dog cell of any surface salty water that it had showing on it, just to find an inch wide puddle of water under it on the table this morning.
So, it may be that it is absorbing additional water from the air here, on its own.   But I'm not sure.
  I do plan on buying the Epsom and the salt substitute, when I can find them here. In the meantime I'm doing what I can with what is on hand, as usual.
  For those that can find the carbonate, please let us know what your results are, as this may just be the magic substance, after all.  Or not...
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The crystal cell that I keep shorted out for about 3 months was given a chance to rest for a few days on 11-10-11. The cell was at 1.463 volts at 6 micro-amps, then the cell was shorted out again. The short was removed on 11-13-11 and the cell was allowed to rest til today which is 11-15-11. The cell now reads 1.490 volts at 8 micro-amps. This was only a test to see if the cell is really recharging itself and by the looks of it it really is. But nothing last forever.[/size]

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Quote from: ibpointless2 on November 15, 2011, 08:42:09 PM
But nothing last forever.[/size]

But I think these cells will last longer then we will. They seem to be attracting a vibrance that creates a oscolation in the cells that creates the usable current we are seeing. As you have pointed out, we can short them and they come back even stronger. There is no battery ever made that has done this. This tells me that they will last as long as all the materials they are made of last. Forever? Maybe not but I am guessing that they will last longer then our generation and that alone makes this worth it.

Keep up the good work.

@nightlife


Thank you.


I remember a comic strip that had a picture of some guys standing around a perpetual motion machine with the caption "we have a perpetual motion machine, but its going to take forever to test it". 


If these cells do last for a long time than its going to take forever to test them.