Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson just recently asked Andrea Rossi to host another test demonstration to verify his E-Cat technology. 

Here's an excerpt from Rossi's reply:
"Dear Professor Josephson, I do understand your concerns, but as I already explained, I am not going to give any other demonstration of the E-Cat because at this point it wouldn't make any sense: we already got industrial manufacturing underway and the E-Cat is a ready product for the market. Our customers will buy a working device; if it didn't work, they wouldn't buy it. Besides, I'm in such a busy and demanding stage that, even if I wanted, I wouldn't have the time to arrange any test." -- Andrea Rossi

Rossi's reply goes on to also state:
"In summary, I don't intend to give any other dimostrative test: the last one has been the one of Oct, 6th. We are selling plants to customers who run their own tests and decide whether to buy the E-Cat or not relying on their results: they don't mind what's inside the reactor. Meanwhile, the university of Bologna will take scrupulous care of the scientific work..." -- Andrea Rossi

Here's a link to the full story:
http://www.focus.it/scienza/ecat-cold-fusion-andrea-rossi-replies-to-nobel-prize-winner-brian-josephson-956_C12.aspx

I absolutely agree with Rossi's stance in regards to future testing by the academic world.  Rossi has no time to be playing games and jumping through any more hoops as is the case in any dog and pony show.  I love the way he responded to the world renown scientific community (specifically Mr. Josephson).  The Nobel Prize winner could always purchase one of Rossi's units and do 40 years worth of testing on it and then let us all know how it went. 


Regards,

Chess   

Quote from: chessnyt on November 23, 2011, 10:00:36 PM
Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson just recently asked Andrea Rossi to host another test demonstration to verify his E-Cat technology. 

Here's an excerpt from Rossi's reply:
"Dear Professor Josephson, I do understand your concerns, but as I already explained, I am not going to give any other demonstration of the E-Cat because at this point it wouldn't make any sense: we already got industrial manufacturing underway and the E-Cat is a ready product for the market. Our customers will buy a working device; if it didn't work, they wouldn't buy it. Besides, I'm in such a busy and demanding stage that, even if I wanted, I wouldn't have the time to arrange any test." -- Andrea Rossi

Rossi's reply goes on to also state:
"In summary, I don't intend to give any other dimostrative test: the last one has been the one of Oct, 6th. We are selling plants to customers who run their own tests and decide whether to buy the E-Cat or not relying on their results: they don't mind what's inside the reactor. Meanwhile, the university of Bologna will take scrupulous care of the scientific work..." -- Andrea Rossi

Here's a link to the full story:
http://www.focus.it/scienza/ecat-cold-fusion-andrea-rossi-replies-to-nobel-prize-winner-brian-josephson-956_C12.aspx

I absolutely agree with Rossi's stance in regards to future testing by the academic world.  Rossi has no time to be playing games and jumping through any more hoops as is the case in any dog and pony show.  I love the way he responded to the world renown scientific community (specifically Mr. Josephson).  The Nobel Prize winner could always purchase one of Rossi's units and do 40 years worth of testing on it and then let us all know how it went. 


Regards,

Chess

Good to better to BEST.  What a pleasure to read all this.  BUT, regarding Josephesson, he was one of those rare few who vociferously supported 'cold fusion' during those rather dark 2 decades where it went underground - so to speak.  And, surprisingly - it did nothing to diminish his academic stature.  Would that others would follow suit. 

But Rossi is right.  IF one is to get this assessed without any bias then it most assuredly needs to be put in the capable hands of more than just one person. Lest there be competing interests.  That's the object of publishing which - may I remind you all - WAS DENIED TO ROSSI.  Here were his problems.  To secure production rights on an entire new technology requires prior academic publication.  He WAS UNABLE TO PUBLISH - which is something that I also know something about.  But listen how brilliant.  He simply published his very own JOURNAL OF PHYSICS (I think it's called) - then published his and a few related papers - had them duly reviewed - then closed that journal down.  I'm not sure that they take any more papers as I looked for an option there.  Which, in my book is ALL kudos.  And that was all that was required to qualify for that patent and the subsequent selling rights of that technology.  WHAT A STAR.

Finally we've got a solution to our energy crisis that will exceed the hard work of those HORRIBLE trolls.  It strikes me that this is probably the most important news that has ever hit this forum.  Why is it not gaining traction?  It's strange.  I think that goes back to the comments made by Iwh? I think is his name?

It's all very good.

Rosemary

Guys,

apologies for consecutive posts - yet again.  But here's a letter that we've just sent off to our publisher.  It - hopefully - will earn some kind of reply. 

Dear Professor,

It seems that these delays in publishing our paper have allowed the news of Rossi's E-CAT to advance our own news.  Not that I mind - one little bit - as it's all grist to the mill.

I wonder if I can impose on you to please read that second part of that 2-part paper.  You will see that it argues that so called 'over unity' is the inevitable consequence when one uses 'dark energy', which, we argue is simply 'magnetic energy' from the primary Magnetic Force. This has the very real merit of reconciling some diverse branches of physics without a required revision to the standard model.

I am reasonably satisfied that the argument is well articulated as I have comments on record, about this, from some very prestigious academics to whom I've shown that paper.  I also understand that I've made an error - in the nature of a 'typo' where I reference Power = vi dt - where I should have written Energy.  It's correctly referenced elsewhere in both papers.  And that error is correctable.  Apart from that I've only had favorable comments - in those few instances where the recipients commented at all.

I wonder if I could impose on you to please advise us of the status of that paper.  We have not managed to solicit a response to our earlier request on this.

And, in conclusion, dear Professor *****, I wonder if it would not be as well to at least put those questions out there.  We are not being pedantic in our proposed solutions to this.  And it may initiate the required dialogue amongst those academics that they evaluate this energy as coming from an alternate force to those proposed in the standard model.  And it may help to advance Rossi's technology which is so urgently required.  Certainly the debate needs initiation and then our learned academics can better argue the need for those emissions that are sorely lacking in the LENR technology.  If this is, indeed, determined as 'dark energy' which is what we propose - then there is an immediate explanation and the standard model is entirely secured - notwithstanding.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary.

It's also published in my blogspot.      Personally I'm not averse to repetition.

Rossi's hurry to get to the market as rapid as possible is all quite understandable if his patent situation is understood.
If I look into this situation, most of his essential claims are rejected (as indicated in the Italian PA process flow).
Also, the fact that he has no details of the catalyst, he claims to use, in his current patent makes the patent basically useless.
Question, as raised before by other members here as well, is whether the use of any catalyst is essential in this technology.

So, it looks that his patent situation is very weak.
The only way for him to make significant money is to very quickly serve the market.
I would not be very suprised if the details of this technology will be public and free to use within one year from now.

Quote from: teslaalset on November 24, 2011, 04:54:41 AM
Rossi's hurry to get to the market as rapid as possible is all quite understandable if his patent situation is understood.
If I look into this situation, most of his essential claims are rejected (as indicated in the Italian PA process flow).
Also, the fact that he has no details of the catalyst, he claims to use, in his current patent makes the patent basically useless.
Question, as raised before by other members here as well, is whether the use of any catalyst is essential in this technology.

So, it looks that his patent situation is very weak.
The only way for him to make significant money is to very quickly serve the market.
I would not be very suprised if the details of this technology will be public and free to use within one year from now.

@Teslaalset:
You're correct in your assessment of Rossi's situation.  Rossi knows his window of opportunity to profit is running out.  He doesn't want the selling of his home and all the hard work he's put into this technology to be for not.  I would much rather him try to profit from the technology by bringing it to market than by selling out to the oil cartels where it would surely be buried forever. 

As far as the patent being worthless; this is what I was thinking when I posted reply #322.  I also believe his patent is worthless due to his willfully choosing to leave out his "secret" catalyst.  At least here in the U.S. for sure.

It's just my opinion (of course) but I believe the "secret" catalyst does actually exist.  What its specific role in the reaction is, I do not know.


Regards,

Chess