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FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER -- The Game Changer is Here

Started by chessnyt, September 16, 2011, 06:57:24 PM

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The new poll  starting 2-4-2012:  LENR technology

a) will soon lead to the end of the fossil fuel era and become the new standard.
b) will compete with fossil fuels for decades to come eventually replacing them.
c) will not only phase out fossil fuels but will also lead to the trials of the current corrupt powers in charge.
d) will lead to all of the above.

teslaalset

There are a few more things to mention about the claimed catalyst.

1) Rossi might have a separate PA that recently has been initiated. Normally it takes about a year before PA's are published. So there might be something in the making here.

2) The definition of a catalyst is that it's material that accelerates a chemical reaction without taking part of the reaction itself. Since this phenomenon is likely not a chemical reaction, anything that influences the efficiency of the process is actually not a catalyst. There is a new definition required to cover this effect in a patent. If Rossi is mentioning 'catalyst' without that new definition in a pending PA it maybe worthless as well.

We will see how this proceeds....

chessnyt

@Everyone:
More good news being released today! 

"Andrea Rossi may have his doubters, detractors and skeptics, but the client for whom he demonstrated his 1MW e-Cat energy system apparently isn't one of them. Not only did the mysterious client take delivery of Rossi's first 1MW heat energy production system, but ordered a dozen more for use in cold, remote locations. That's an order worth $24 million." -- EV World

The full article can be found at:
http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2035


Regards,

Chess

bullsnbears1

Quote from: chessnyt on November 24, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
@Everyone:
More good news being released today! 

"Andrea Rossi may have his doubters, detractors and skeptics, but the client for whom he demonstrated his 1MW e-Cat energy system apparently isn't one of them. Not only did the mysterious client take delivery of Rossi's first 1MW heat energy production system, but ordered a dozen more for use in cold, remote locations. That's an order worth $24 million." -- EV World

The full article can be found at:
http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=2035


Regards,

Chess

I tend to be on the side of the E-cat believers.

But it sure would be nice to be able to confirm the existence of this "customer" beyond the words out of Rossi's mouth. Can anyone provide more information that would help the average guy feel comfortable that this customer does in fact exist?

Rosemary Ainslie

Hello Guys,

Rossi's definitely trapped between a rock and a hard place.  If he has that catalytic number then effectively he sells it's secret at the cost of $2M every time he delivers a unit.  Which is cheap at the price.  Here's the thing.  It will be absolutely impossible for him to depend on patent protections because everyone who can, will be varying what ever's required to patent their own.  And - consider that Celani was working on this prior to his knowledge of Rossi's effective technology.  Professor Celani could only generate small wattage.  There's something that Rossi has that makes nickle and hydrogen work at a heavy duty level.  That's the only thing he can patent - because - obviously - cold fusion can't be patented - and nor can the nickle and hydrogen ingredients be patented.  Else we'd not know of them.  It's public knowledge - so to speak. 

So.  My take is that Rossi will do just about everything needed short of actually delivering a working unit until he's got orders under his belt.  Then he'll have the contracts required to lock in some streamlined production of those units and that way he can stay ahead of the pack.  I'm not sure that he is that concerned about the patenting side of things.  It simply will NOT get protected.  It would be impossible to control.  Think of it.  Someone takes over his unit and adds - let's say - traces of nitrogen - or something small and something exotic.  Then they CLAIM that this is required for a slightly varied improvement which also justifies their own patents to produce their own reactors.  And so it goes.  It only needs a small variation to qualify as 'intellectual property'.  And there's no known science to qualify for this surplus energy.  And then too.  Being outside conventional science and conventional explanations then anyone at all can claim precisely what they want.  Who's to gainsay them?

Then consider this.  For some reason heavy water was immediately replaced with nickle and hydrogen.  That's way different to Fleishmann and Pons with their deuterium and palladium mix.  In any event - it seems that Professor Francesco Celani went that route in his own trials.  Who's to say that there aren't dozens or more alternate options that may yet work even more effectively?
 
My take is that Rossi's got the tiger by the tail.  Which possibly means that he's going about this the right way.  He shows that it works.  He gets a welter of contracts to build sundry units.  Then he sells off those contracts under some kind of production licensing agreement.  But just about as soon as he starts delivering his units I'll put money on it that he'll confront some pretty hefty competition.  Which can only be a good thing.

What's not such a good thing is if those units are then sold to the public under license rather than ownership.  Otherwise guys - we may as well stay with our monopolists.  It'll be subject to abuse.  Hopefully this will never happen.   

Regards,
Rosemary

ADDED

JUST LEARNED THAT MY ARTICLE IS NOT GOING TO BE PUBLISHED - THE REASON, APPARENTLY, IS THAT THERE IS NO CREDIBILITY.

WHAT'S NEW?

chessnyt

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on November 24, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
JUST LEARNED THAT MY ARTICLE IS NOT GOING TO BE PUBLISHED - THE REASON, APPARENTLY, IS THAT THERE IS NO CREDIBILITY.

WHAT'S NEW?

@Rosemary:
I'm sorry to learn that your article was rejected for publication.  The original Cold Fusion story that headlined all the major newspapers lacked ANY credibility as it was making claims far outside the received scientific paradigm yet it was published around the world.  This is precisely why the mainstream media can not be trusted. 

This breakthrough in L.E.N.R. technology is the biggest discovery in modern science since the discovery of electricity but if you watch the entire new documentary "Thrive", you may soon start to understand why the major networks have eclipsed this story.  It is also time for mainstream America to eclipse the entire major networks altogether as they do not have our best interests at heart.

You have to follow the money.  Who sponsors the major networks (buys commercial air time for thousands of dollars per second) that dominate our news outlets?  It is corporate America that sponsors and owns them just as they own (have already purchased) the U.S. government.


Warm regards,

Chess