Thanks for the reply.  I'll wait until the cell comes out of the bag.  As that is the strongest running cell made of that type, it's important to know the long term results.
   I think that the main trick to making the salt electrolytes work properly is to make sure they are sealed, otherwise they will make their own water, if available air is present, and that is not going to make for long lasting cells, as it will also contaminate the electrolyte.
   I really like your idea of the just pure salts crystal cell, as that cell can be easily dipped in resin, or E-pozy to seal it, also.

   jbiggness5:
   The addition weight added on top of the cell can also help with its conductivity, thus also making it have a higher output. Which is why I press my carbon/quartz cells down into the capacitor cans as much as I can.
  Now I have my two newest cells, the small ones I made a week ago, both inside a plastic AA battery holder that uses springs to make for a better contact, pressing the two cells together very tightly.  Those two tiny cells are giving me over a 1.5, to 1.91 volts depending on their mood.  I've added a couple more cells to have almost 4 volts together and they still will not light my Hartley oscillators, from lack of current. As adding them in series is not going to help their current levels. But I also have a 4 AA battery holder that can fit up to 8 of these smaller type capacitor cells that will give me about 7 volts or so, but still at only 3mA, or so.  So, current levels are also important as well,  at least they are for me.

 Maybe adding grahite to this equasion might help with the conductivity. I would try to stay to the same grind levels for carbon and graphite. The closer you can keep those the better the cell will conduct. I agree about the conductivity and the spacing of the molecules for conduction. That is why I used water in that process. When it evaporates it will leave a better conduction path made by that evaporation and hence why I am getting a better current out of mine. I can't tell the ma's because my meter blew it's fuse. I got to go get one again. I believe the current is stronger because when I add them to my other batteries it improves the light output. Not by tons but enough to raise the light level.


Thats what lead me to the IB's mix with carbon doping. My next experiment will use graphite powder instead. I can't wait to get some magnesium since this seems to have a better reaction and current because of them being both metals (magnesium/copper).  I am wondering what difference I would see with magnesium and copper with these new doping materials. Hmmm...

Please try to understand that we want a conduction path from outside to inside. This makes the center electrode positive because of amplification of the surrounding surface. Crystals are part of that goal, the mere shape of them makes them amplifiers of surface charge and directional in nature because of that amplification. Induction is also a big clue here. With magnetics being closer to our detectable spectrum. Light plays another role. And crystals help in lights ability to go as far as it goes. So all of the forces are dealt with in one neat little package. Light and energy can co-exist at the same time with fields as well. Then densities have a lot to do with it after the basic laws. Since these pathways can interact over miles or even millions of miles they are the strongest forces around and when you have matter binding the forces it creates densities and divisions of those densities.

Since water is the most available element anywhere in the universe we can see that it is a smaller density of that water that holds the true power. It can focus light and bend it's path. All this from inside of it's rigid structure. Thats what radiates light into any imaginable angle from a point source. A single drop of perfect circular water. All instantly spreading out from the main source without wasting a drop of energy in the process. If there is a conductor network present then it radiates out from the source. If it doesn't have a network already established then it grows instantly. Water also has an ability to become polarized and it reacts to static fields this is also where surface charges come into it. I think the trapped water can still move within the structure of the crystals. This is evident by the experiments we are doing here.

Get the balance right and you have a never ending supply of energy without destroying our environment or ourselves.

Sealing the batteries will have to be done once this balance has been attained and is the reason for such good results after sealing the balance into the cell.

It might be possible to dope the glue with carbon or graphite to increase the conductivity of the glue even if water evaporates and is not present. this might change the reliance of water in the system to ferry the charges to the center electrode after the water has evaporated.

I have figured out what powers my cells, its pressure.


Here is the video http://youtu.be/PqBkxbdg0XY

Quote from: ibpointless2 on December 05, 2011, 04:40:11 PM
I have figured out what powers my cells, its pressure.


Here is the video http://youtu.be/PqBkxbdg0XY

Very interesting. Use a pair of vise grips or put in a vise and lets see how long it will hold. My cells are inside tubes so I don't think they will react the same but I will check and see.