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GAMMA RADIATION AND ANTI-MATTER -- The E-Cat technology produces low energy gamma radiation that is converted into heat inside of the reactor. The signature of the gamma radiation that has been detected is said to be 511 keV at 180 degrees. These gamma rays are thought to be produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other. So, if we understand correctly, Rossi theorizes that inside of the E-Cat there are anti-matter/matter annihilation taking place, releasing energy. However, he stated this is just a side effect of what really takes place, which he has previously indicated is nuclear fusion.

Rosemary,

I'll almost bet the excess heat which is generated from your circuit is the signature of the gamma radiation produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other.  Why do you think I repeatedly made the below statement in your thread?  Because we need to distinguish if there are both positive charges (positrons) and negative charges (electrons) flowing which could annihilate each other producing excess heat.  Harti, please unlock Rosemary's thread.

Gravock

Quote from: GravockUsing the right hand and pointing the thumb in the direction of the moving positive charge or positive current and the fingers in the direction of the magnetic field the resulting force on the charge points outwards from the palm. The force on a negatively charged particle is in the opposite direction. If both the speed and the charge are reversed then the direction of the force remains the same. For that reason a magnetic field measurement (by itself) cannot distinguish whether there is a positive charge moving to the right or a negative charge moving to the left. (Both of these cases produce the same current.) On the other hand, a magnetic field combined with an electric field can distinguish between these, such as the Hall effect.

Hi all,

I've finally listened right through that interview with Sterling. Thanks for the link Gravock.  What struck me was that the for electrical generation they need a higher temperature output.  By about 4 times.  Although doable, even then they'll be hide bound by licensing requirements from Hell.  'Authorisations' as Rossi put's it.  Which, from where I sit, means that our grid suppliers have got the edge - and they'll probably just buy Rossi's technology to supplement either the fossil fuels or the nuclear energies that they use at present.  That's sort of good news.  But not entirely.  Because we'll still end up paying our grid suppliers - and I'm not sure they'll be under the same pressure to reduce their costs.  However.  This, perhaps, is where our own experimental genius's can come into their own.  So guys.  Here's the challenge.  Find a way of running a motor on electrical applications that are generated from just 120 degrees - the standard E-cat.  I'll put money on it that you lot could do this.  On your ears. If there were dedicated E-cats for lights - then another for say, the stove... and another for 'fans' and on and on.  Four E-cats per household - and it's still cheaper than our utility suppliers.  Or it would be in South Africa.  By a long shot.  In fact, if those E-cats are priced at say $450.00 per unit - x 4 = $1800 x plus/minus 7 to convert to rands, R 12 700.00.  The average 3 bedroomed house-hold here costs in the region of R 800.00 per month.  Therefore capital outlay would be paid back within a 1.5 years.  Which is nothing.  If those numbers sort of correlate to our American households - then the sky's the limit.  And if it's open sourced?  Even better. 

Just a thought.  I'm possibly a tad too optimistic.  But it's certainly a workable target.  I just don't actually understand why that conversion to electricity needs so much more heat?  Surely it depends on each application?  I can see that the stove would eat up energy.  But by the same token our lights - subject to moving to those energy efficiency numbers - take up virtually nothing any more.  And all that's left then is our computers and televisions.  I don't mind paying that much to our monopolists.  It's the cheapest possible use of their supplies.

Can't wait to see those first units.  He's designed this to come on stream when you Americans will be staring at winter - on the horizon.  Good timing. 

Rosemary

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Hi all,

I've finally listened right through that interview with Sterling. Thanks for the link Gravock.  What struck me was that the for electrical generation they need a higher temperature output.  By about 4 times.

The Power Density of the Energy is proportional to the fourth power of the Temperature as explained in Xydous's publication.  Below is a snapshot showing this.

Gravock

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Can't wait to see those first units.  He's designed this to come on stream when you Americans will be staring at winter - on the horizon.  Good timing. 

Rosemary

I highly doubt the 'Market' will include the general public.  This technology will more than likely be under the same control as nuclear power plants.  Don't you guys see what is happening.  TPTB appears to have possibly stolen technology developed by the open-source community while patenting it in order to keep it out of our hands.  The open-source community is being Bamboozled and Hoodwinked.  Start building!

Gravock

Quote from: gravityblock on February 17, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
I highly doubt the 'Market' will include the general public.  This technology will more than likely be under the same control as nuclear power plants.  Don't you guys see what is happening.  TPTB appears to have possibly stolen technology developed by the open-source community while patenting it in order to keep it out of our hands.  The open-source community is being Bamboozled and Hoodwinked.  Start building!

Gravock

Gravock,
I share your worries. The nuclear plants are nothing but steam powered generators. It would be a piece of cake to replace with e-cat systems.
And it would certainly not change the present electricity prices, it would just make the fat ones even fatter.

My only hope is that AR will get his production and sale of domestic units started before the big guys stop him.

Because they will stop him, one way or the other, sooner or later. That´s the way it works, no matter what we think.
Thinking otherwise is utterly childish, since this world has gotten into the hands of heartless people with twisted minds.

Andrea Rossi have turned a big slab of rock, now they are forced to crawl forth and act in the dark.

Being aware of this is our only upper hand.

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on February 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Hi all,

I've finally listened right through that interview with Sterling. Thanks for the link Gravock.  What struck me was that the for electrical generation they need a higher temperature output.  By about 4 times.  Although doable, even then they'll be hide bound by licensing requirements from Hell.  'Authorisations' as Rossi put's it.  Which, from where I sit, means that our grid suppliers have got the edge - and they'll probably just buy Rossi's technology to supplement either the fossil fuels or the nuclear energies that they use at present.  That's sort of good news.  But not entirely.  Because we'll still end up paying our grid suppliers - and I'm not sure they'll be under the same pressure to reduce their costs.  However.  This, perhaps, is where our own experimental genius's can come into their own.  So guys.  Here's the challenge.  Find a way of running a motor on electrical applications that are generated from just 120 degrees - the standard E-cat.  I'll put money on it that you lot could do this.  On your ears. If there were dedicated E-cats for lights - then another for say, the stove... and another for 'fans' and on and on.  Four E-cats per household - and it's still cheaper than our utility suppliers.  Or it would be in South Africa.  By a long shot.  In fact, if those E-cats are priced at say $450.00 per unit - x 4 = $1800 x plus/minus 7 to convert to rands, R 12 700.00.  The average 3 bedroomed house-hold here costs in the region of R 800.00 per month.  Therefore capital outlay would be paid back within a 1.5 years.  Which is nothing.  If those numbers sort of correlate to our American households - then the sky's the limit.  And if it's open sourced?  Even better. 

Just a thought.  I'm possibly a tad too optimistic.  But it's certainly a workable target.  I just don't actually understand why that conversion to electricity needs so much more heat?  Surely it depends on each application?  I can see that the stove would eat up energy.  But by the same token our lights - subject to moving to those energy efficiency numbers - take up virtually nothing any more.  And all that's left then is our computers and televisions.  I don't mind paying that much to our monopolists.  It's the cheapest possible use of their supplies.

Can't wait to see those first units.  He's designed this to come on stream when you Americans will be staring at winter - on the horizon.  Good timing. 

Rosemary

Rosemary,

I am sure there will be a whole lot of experimentation going on when or if the e-cats gets out into the market.

As I have mentioned in earlier posts, the same day I get my four pre-ordered e-cats, I will start dismantle the cooling system of three of the units
and rebuild them to function as a serially connected heater incorporated into a traditional steam engine, capable of producing the 5 KW needed to keep the e-cats going.

The excess heat will be conducted into heating steam radiators, and the condensed water circulated back to the e-cats.

The forth e-cat I will dismantle all the way and back engineer.

Gwandau