Proposed flag for the North American Union.  This makes me sick, and you guys sit back and think everything is fine.

Quote from: gravityblock on March 03, 2012, 02:42:50 AM
Proposed flag for the North American Union.  This makes me sick, and you guys sit back and think everything is fine.

Quote from: gravityblock on March 03, 2012, 02:00:15 AM

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LENR possibly appearing on the market could be a signal to the end of the sovereignty of the the U.S along with the end of the sovereignty of other countries.

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Sorry for the doom and gloom
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Gravock

Cheer up Gravock, there are two sides to every coin, and every half empty glass is half full.

Loss of sovereignty can be a good or bad thing, but only ever judged in hindsight. The USA is a great historical example of the loss of sovereignty of independent states. Those losses led to a greater national good under federal sovereignty for the new citizens of the emerging USA.
 
But, more than a century ago, members of Texas, New Mexico, etc, would have been lamenting just as you are, about the loss of their own sovereignty.

It is sad that the USA was forged through the pain and suffering of numerous wars before it became the USA that we have mostly known for the last century. The indian native wars, the war of independence, the spanish american wars, the civil war, etc, have all ultimately led to the current sovereignty you seem so afraid of losing.

As an Aussie, I look at a globe of the world, and, having met so many Canadians and Americans over the years, I just tend to think of the continent of North America, and jokingly call them all Camericans. And they all hate it ! LOL.

Australia isn't without it's history of war with the resident aborigines, but thank goodness, our emergence from a number of independent soveriegn states to international recognition as a federated sovereignty, was by a vote rather than a war.
And the rewards that our federation has provided us are many and great.

Cheers    ... KneeDeep

Quote from: Gwandau on March 02, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
Star Scientific are still researching in how to mass produce the hard to get pions
to be used in their so called Muon Catalysed Fusion process. Nice idea but no break
through so far.
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That leaves only the Brillouin Energy Corporation with their LENR concept using
helium and hydrogen. They are similarily to the BlackLight Power Inc.
( http://www.blacklightpower.com ) utilizing different energy states of hydrogen in combination with helium.

Gwandau

I'm posting this for the record.  The below text was posted by me back in September of 2010 in this thread, describing the processes mentioned above.  There are many ways to do LENR, but recently I've been more focused on the process which Rossi is utilizing, since this is the process which most people appear to be more interested in.

LENR's can be obtained by turning hydrogen into helium at low temperature and bombarding deuterium with heavier mesons (pions), releasing a fabulous amount of energy, or by using ultra rays in an acid solution saturated with helium nuclei. The latter process is the most usual.

Here's how the transformation of ultra rays into usable energy takes place.  If you allow radioactivity to pass through a magnetic field you will get alpha, beta and gamma rays. The first are helium nuclei, the second are electrons and the third are gamma rays, which are similar to ultra rays in their electromagnetic content. These three components of radioactivity are related.

The ultra rays, or gamma rays, on passing close to helium nuclei, bring about a deformation of space and give birth to electrons until their wave energy is expended. Thus, when gamma rays pass through an acid solution saturated with helium nuclei, the newly created electrons gyrate around the nuclei, but the acid prevents them from joining up with the nuclei, and they are collected on plates at the bottom of the apparatus. This provides an inexhaustible supply of energy which requires nothing more than a little acid solution and some helium nuclei.

Gravock

Quote from: hoptoad on March 03, 2012, 04:27:20 AM

Cheer up Gravock, there are two sides to every coin, and every half empty glass is half full.

Why does everyone want to separate one into two, such as the egg-chicken, electron-positron (matter-antimatter), heads-tails of a coin, etc.  They are one and the same.  People like to cause division.  A house which is divided will fall and won't stand.  If water is added to a glass, then it's half full.  If water is being taken away from the glass, then it's half empty.  So, if I say the glass is half empty, then we know someone is drinking or taking from the glass.  If I say the glass is half full, then we know someone is adding water to the glass.  Half full or half empty is the same measurement, so they are one, but they can be separated into two for an easier explanation, which people like to do, but we must remember that they are one or we are led down a path of wrong assumptions which lead to paradoxes.  I'm not the one who needs cheering up.  The ones who will need cheering up will be the ones who are in denial when this comes unexpectedly to them, because they were looking at the wrong side of the coin when they should have been looking at the coin itself.

Gravock

If LENR is a game changer,  then how does it effect oil?   It appears to me to only effect possible cost of electricity for home heating and such.   Could LENR it in fact hurt the US economy since most of the US electricity is made using coal and natural gas?   How many jobs would be lost?   
As gasoline prices are going up and up,  General Motors has just announced it temporarily suspended production of its Volt electric car, until demand catches up with supply.   While battery problems impacted the sales somewhat, it really is the price of the electric cars that are holding back sales.
Even if the electricity were almost free to run automobiles,  it would take years before there was any real impact on oil.